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>> jimmy: our next guest is a broadcaster and author who has just a dash of conservative. her show airs saturday night, 6:00 eastern. say hello to se cup. welcome to california. >> thanks. >> jimmy: you picked quite a week to visit. >> i'm so sorry. i was actually born here. it's painful to see so much hurt and heart break. kudos to the firefighters. >> jimmy: no kidding. it's unbelievable what they are doing. i would not have the bravery to do anything of that type.

>> nor i. i am into the job i meant to be in. >> jimmy: were you able to get a hotel. the hotels are full of people. >> i was. i will tell you, i don't know if this is the new custom here, but i checked in and i went to the middle mini bar to get a bottle of water and i picked it up and there was a pile of weed there. >> jimmy: in the mini bar? >> on top of the mini bar? is this jimmy? >> jimmy: it wasn't from me, no. it's an amenity we have. >> very nice. very thoughtful. >> jimmy: what did you do with it? >> i watch a lot of dateline and went into crazy paranoia like what if they come back from it. >> jimmy: you goat paranoid without even smoking it. >> i don't want any part of

this. you are one of the few people who even kind of declares which side they are on. >> i understand why it's sometimes confusioning to tell who does what. my job is to give me opinion. i will get a lot of mail saying i'm biased. i'm telling you openly. >> jimmy: as a conservative, how would you grade donald trump if you had to give him a letter grade? >> banana. you can't grade him as a conservative because there is very little that is conservative about him. a fifth grader's understanding of what conservatism is. cutting spending and lowering the debt and limited government, keeping families together. anti-protectionism. these are the understandings of what conservatism as a movement

means. he doesn't really view too much of that. it's hard to give him a grade. >> jimmy: do your fellow conservatives get upset that you are not defending him in on television? >> constantly. from the second he started running. for people like me, it was clear he was not going to run as a republican. he was not going to run as a conservative. he can run any way he wants, but let's call a spade a spade. even last week with the election. e-mail after e-mail. text after text. what happened to you? you used to be a conservative. i have to be like dad, i did not change! y'all changed! i believe in the same things i always did. >> jimmy: you are in the same spot. a lot of other people -- >> not everybody, but a disappointing amount of people, especially congressional republicans have pushed snooze

on conservatism while donald trump is running the party and running the country. that's been disorienting to say the least. but also -- >> jimmy: did you interview donald trump at fox news. >> i don't believe i interviewed him. i did television with him. it's not a euphemism. >> jimmy: while he was talking. yes. >> we did projects together and i did television with don, jr. i got to know the family a little. certainly through the campaign, i covered him a lot. >> jimmy: do you know him personally at all? >> a little. anything i say is going to sound way more intimate and tawdry. >> jimmy: perfect. get et on the line. >> i will. >> look, i cover him and i worked with him on some projects.

as close as it got was i moved into a trump building in manhattan years ago. suddenly a cutting board arrived with my initials burned into it from donald trump welcoming me to the building. >> jimmy: he does woodworking? >> i'm sure by hand. a house warming gift. >> jimmy: how about that. >> i wish i sent it back. >> jimmy: do you use the cutting board? >> i do. almost every night. >> jimmy: you think of him while you chop vegetables. >> i try not to. i have a couple of development projects. >> jimmy: with donald trump or without? >> no. explicitly not. i found over the past few years, both as a human and someone who has to cover politics all day that i need an escape hatch. i have tried to find other

stories to tell. when you are looking, it's amazing how many you will find. that i found that i'm working on developing is the story of the first openly gay revolutionary war hero. >> jimmy: really? >> yes. barron von stuben and he was fabulous. he was prussian and he coned his way to come over as inspector general. benjamin franklin and george washington said sure, we will bring you over. he arrived in a fur-covered horse drawn sled with a miniature greyhound and a cad reof boyfriends and secretaries behind him. >> jimmy: wow! >> if people know him at all, he knows he revolutionized the way the military lays out camp. we use a lot of things he caught us. what people don't know is he was

openly gay. it was almost the first don't ask don't tell. it's a fabulous story. i'm excited to tell it. >> jimmy: you are finding out about this out here? >> no! >> jimmy: i don't know. >> i'm trying to convince people out here. >> jimmy: you are definitely getting kicked out of the republican party. you have about five minutes left between trump and this barron von stuben. >> the feeling is mutual these days. >> jimmy: saturday nights on 6:00 eastern on cnn. we will be right back with midland.

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good evening. we start here with the dangerous developing story out of california. the historic wildfires. dozens dead, hundreds missing. thousands chased from their homes. tonight the harrowing stories of escape and the heroic stories of rescue. abc's clayton is on the fight to contain the flames and find the cause. >> guess what. we are not going to catch on fire, okay. >> okay. >> we are going to stay away from it and we will be just fine. >> in the middle of a fiery inferno, a father bravely keeps his cool driving out of paradise, california into hell on earth. >> we're going to get out, okay. we're going to leave. >> we're going to get fire.

>> no, we're going to get out of here. >> sirens past the flame. >> look, we're past it. out of it. >> yea! >> the most destructive wildfire in california history. >> it's burning on all sides of us. >> trying to get out of paradise. this is bad. >> come on, people. go! >> at 30% contained, the camp fire has destroyed more than 6,000 structures, burning 1,000 plus acres. now the deadliest wildfire in state history with at least 42 killed so far. more than 200 people remain missing. today firefighters searching what's left of paradise. nurse nicole jolly said she is one of the paradise resident who is lost almost everything. >> i called my husband and said i don't think i'm going to make it out of this. it's coming in too fast. >> putting her patients first when the fire started. >> we put tapes on the doors

when the room was evacuated. we put tape on the door. we got the whole hospital out. >> jolly beginning her own escape. >> the air was so hot it was burning my lungs. the back of my pants were on fire and the firefighters extinguished my ha pants and put a fire blanket over me. >> what was the first thing you said to your husband? >> i'm alive! i'm here and i love you. >> brad's home miraculously surviving. he stayed through the fire with his 90-year-old blind mother. >> do you think people understand how widespread the damage is? >> i doubt it. it's gone. everybody i know lost everything. it's real sad. >> the camp fire is one of 16 active fires currently blazing across the golden state.

the infernos killing more than 40 people. forcing more than 250,000 to evacuate and turning some california communities into an ashy moon scape. even today, firefighters near los angeles have a new challenge on their hands. a brush fire in simi valley near my colleague. >> we are on highway 118 in the simi valley. look at the smoke. authorities are trying to put the fire out right now. you can see the helicopter. >> the flair up forcing officials to shut down part of that freeway. firefighters are still battling the woolsey fire nearby. >> i never have seen a fire move like that. >> evacuees came back to the mobile home park where he grew up. >> a lot of people see these big houses in malibu and what not. i grew up in a mobile home park. we are not a bunch of rich