either. this is good. this might be rudy giuliani's least convincing attempt to defend the president yet. >> suppose he tried to use his campaign funds to pay off stormy ♪ grab your jacket. ♪ daniels. if it's not a campaign expense and try oreo chocolate candy bars. contribution. it would not be. clearly no, ♪ it's the most bus-i-est time of the year! ♪playing] >> jimmy: not according to my ade-up law. gi quesnitiulon the credibility ofr witness michael cohen. >> i have a client andoyalo hime him and i hide it and i don't tell him. it's fiercelyhi dnking aboutisy own skin. do this.district says you can you've got three years mow niva sing like crazy. he's got to do a lot of singing to get out of the threeea.l wha.

he's changed his president four or five times. >> soesent. >> the president is not under oath. >> jimmy: also, george, this is key. sed, tiny littleoshis fingers cr fingers were legally crossed throughout that story and giuliani stopped by f news to have a chat with chris wallace and if he thought that was as friendlier place to share the cockamamy story and even fox news is losing patience for. >> i had to fire general flynn because he lied to the vice president and the fbi. he has pled lies. the president a year ago seemed to know that flynn has lied, and now he's not so sure. >> the president doesn't know that he president -- >> he kwswe what youne kthe wman pled no g,lt no, no. he knows -- he knows what flynn said to his vice president. >> yes, that was a lie, but that's not a crime.

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