dan ashley. >> i'm dion lim, on jimmy kimmel, >> dicky: from hollywood, it's "jimmy kimmel live"! tonight -- senator kamala harris, mark hamill, the wedding fainter, and music from judah and the lion, and now, in all probability, jimmy kimmel! [cheers and applause] ♪ [cheers and applause] >> jimmy: hi, everyone. i'm jimmy. i'm the host of the show. thank you for watching it. thank you coming to iplease rel. it's too much already. night one of march madness.

maybe the maddest march there ever was. the ncaa tournament is under way. this is the educational portion of the tournament when millions of americans have to figure out which channel is true tv. that only took us half an hour today. from first famgame, tonight's ft game was between prairie view and fairly dickinson. have you filled out the tournament brackets? the ncaa tournament? [cheers and applause] this is a chance for college basketball fans to lose $10 as slowly as humanly possible. at this point, my co-workers don't even try to hide the fact they're watching tv all day. every tv has a crowd around. it's like i'm doing a show at a hooters. did you fill out a sheet? >> i did. >> jimmy: who did you pick? >> kentucky. >> jimmy: who's your favorite

player on the kentucky team? >> oh, i have no idea. >> jimmy: he has no idea. he just likes the fried chicken. today is an important day in television history. c-span celebrated 40 40 viewers. c-span is for people for whom the fast-paced action of npr is a little too much. they're having an all-day celebration on c-span. and -- >> the oversight, can you hear me? are the mics on? >> jimmy: well, they might not be. you know what? it's how they party. and that's that. after all these years, we, we have a c-span-y type show for you. our senator, from california and possibly future president, kamala harris, is here with us

tonight. [cheers and applause] and from the desert planet of tattooene, mark hamill is with us. one of the 212 democrats senator harris is up against is beto o'rourke. he raised more than $6 million. and to celebrate, he sat for an interview with gayle king, during which, gayle asked him about his recent criticism of hand movements >> is he crazy? or is that just the way he acts? >> i'm fighting for my [ bleep ] life! >> i call that passion. >> jimmy: i think we may have had the wrong gayle king interview, but the hands were wild. president trump hosted the president of brazil today at the white house in what may have been the dumbest and most

unnecessary of many unnecessary things the president does. today he took the time to quadruple down on his ongoing attacks against the late senator john mccain. >> mr. president, why are you attacking senator mccain? >> i'm very unhappy that he didn't repeal and replace obamacare as you know. he campaigned on repealing and replacing obamacare for years and he got to a vote, and he said thumbs down. and our country would have saved a trillion dollars and we would have had great health care. he told us hours of about that he was going to repeal and replace. and for some reason, i think i understand the reason, he ended up going thumbs up. we could have gotten somebody else. so i think that's disgraceful. plus, there are other things. i was never a fan of john mccain, and i never will be. thank you very much, everybody. >> jimmy: what a beautiful eulogy that was. it takes a special kind of man to go pretty hard against a

recently-deceased american war hero. and donald trump is that special man indeed. the president didn't have any comment about this. a new report says in the mid 2000s u tru 2000s trump repeatedly exaggerated his wealth to get loans from deutsche bank, that doesn't sound like him to me. he claimed he was worth $3 billion when he was actually worth $788 million. and he borrowed money from one division from deutsche bank to pay off a loan from another part of deutsche bank. the word deutsch in german means dumb. it's a dumb bank. the bank reportedly continued to loan trump mundy spite multiple red flags and defaulting on bonds. they loaned him over $2 billion. they gave him so much money he started calling them dad. he filed a lawsuit against the bank saying he couldn't be

responsible four r repayment because the crash was an act of god. we can take comfort in the fact that he never exaggerated anything ever again, so. let's check back in on c-span to see how the birthday show is going. >> bill, by both houses, this is not something that we are just trying to bring from the senate without the house having any input. >> jimmy: yeah. >> this was a negotiated, compromised bill of both houses. >> jimmy: so they're having fun. the president had a lot to say about this today. the captain of the trump fan club, california congressman devon nunez is suing twitter and two anonymous accounts for $250 million. devon nunez, in case you didn't know, you know how that one zit that keeps coming back on the

end of your nose? that's devon nunez. this is a real quote. in the endless barrage of tweets, devon nunez's mom refused to cut the crust off his peanut butter and jelly sandwich, which made devin cry in front of the whole cafeteria. the other request the is called devin nunez cow. this is the kind of slan slander. he's literally suing an imaginary cow. maybe the crazy part of all of it, he wrote, last congress devin nunez co-sponsored a bill

called the discouraging frivolous lawsuits act. and now he's suing a cow. it's almost like he's a hypocrite. almost. so the devin nunez mom account is suspended. but the cow account is still going. we can't have livestock insulting our officials. it's affecting his ability to work. in the interest of civility, please don't follow devin @devin cow on twitter. it's, there's a $250 million lawsuit. please, i'm begging you, don't follow @devin cow or devin and his lawyers will sue you, too. but we have your back, dev dog. is anybody in our audience getting married anytime soon? oh. how sad. well, you won't have any

interest in this. but there's a weird newlywed trend. and that trend is for couples to go on their honeymoons apart, separately. it's called the solo moon. it's a real thing. they call it a solo moon or a uni moon. how does that work? the wife drives off in the limo and the groom calls a uber? it should be called one-y moons. just finding my groove. solo moon #where is my husband. where is your husband? this might be the worst idea i've ever heard. if separate honeymoons sound appealing to you and your fiance, you should also consider getting married separately to other people. speaking of weddings, this is a

video. it was online this week. it begins with a song performed by the maid of honor, and then, well, just watch and you'll see what happens then. ♪ remember this moment ♪ i get to love you ♪ i get love >> water? water. >> jimmy: yeah. there was a real twist at the end there. what they call a misdirect. so needless to say i wanted to learn more. so we tracked down the bride and groom and maid of honor and the man who survived. say hello to tayanna and dennis.

oh. well, first of all, congratulations, when did you get married? >> thank you. we got married on august 10th of last year. >> jimmy: oh, and what took so long to get that video up? >> well, we just had had the baby. because at the wedding i was 25 wee weeks pregnant. >> jimmy: did you take solo moons or together? >> we went together. >> jimmy: at the beginning of the clip we thought the clip was about you. we were listening to you sing when all of a sudden jesten, what was that song you were singing by the way? >> the song was "i get to love you" by ruel. wh . >> jimmy: what went through your mind at that point? >> i didn't know him before, so

i thought it was like a weird prank. and then i thought he was dead. yeah. >> had to twist things up a bit, you know. >> jimmy: have you ever been able to sing a person into unconsciousness before? >> i mean, sleep. >> jimmy: jesten why did you pass out? were you hung over? drunk? >> i wasn't drunk or hungover. i didn't have enough water. we had a lot of water and smoke and of kwocourse i had locked m knees. >> jimmy: at any point did you regret picking jesten to be your best man? >> no, no. i love him. i still do. >> jimmy: and when he walked off, had you wet your pants? let's look at that again. >> let's look at it. >> jimmy: now we have the clip. there he goes down. really on hard ground.

and jesten, at what point did you wet juyour pants? >> it was not, i did not pee my pants. it was water from my chin. it totally looks like i peeed pants. >> there were emts there. >> jimmy: you got injured badly. i think we have a photograph. did that get in the way of the best man speech or were you tieb come ba able to come back and make it. >> he didn't make it. we had sk read the speech. >> jimmy: i remember that time when we were hanging out.

>> that's how it went. >> jimmy: now the reviews of your vocal performance were not kind in the comment section. and you've asked for the opportunity to sing again, because you felt like you were not giving your best. what song would you like to do for us tonight here? >> i'll just sing an original. it's called "infinite heartbreak." >> jimmy: an original. all right, guys, i'm going to ask to you please try to remain conscious during this performance. >> i cannot promise anything. >> jimmy: take it away. ♪ it's hard not to imagine ♪ all that we could have been ♪ but all i do is >> jimmy: guys! >> it wasn't me this time. >> jimmy: i'm sorry to interrupt, but we have a situation here. we got a man down. are you all right, guillermo? >> i think so. >> jimmy: luckily, his mustache

gives him a little bit of extra cushion. thank you all, and congratulations on one of the worst weddings ever, i guess. that's dennis, tayanna. >> jimmy: tonight on the show, music from judah and the lion. mark hamill is here. and we'll be right back with senator kamala harris. ♪ [cheers and applause] ] abc's jimmy kimmel live, brought to you by credit karma. edit karma. [♪] [♪] check your credit scores for free and learn how to improve them at creditkarma. here's to progress.

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>> jimmy: tonight, one of the most beloved heroes of this or any galaxy. from the show "knightfall", which can be seen on history, mark hamill is here. then, their forthcoming album is called "pep talks." judah and the lion from the mercedes-benz outdoor stage. you can see judah and the lion

live on tour starting august 10th in kansas city. tomorrow, rob lowe and joey king will join us, with music from catfish and the bottlemen. and on thursday, sean penn, retta, and music from jenny lewis. so please join us for all of that. >> jimmy: on tuesday, november 3rd, 2020, our first guest could make history as the first woman -- and the first "kamala" -- ever to be elected president of the united states. she's from right here in los angeles. please say hello to senator kamala harris. [cheers and applause] ♪ >> jimmy: how are you? >> i am well. >> jimmy: welcome home.

i know you've been out on the road. >> i just got in last night. >> jimmy: how is the running for president thing going? >> i'm enjoying it. >> jimmy: i have a feeling it's got to be kind of fun to go out there and mix it up and see people cheering in states you might never have visited before. >> it is, but you know jimmy, the thing i'm loving the most, the last trip i took to south carolina for example. in rural towns, where it is much more intimate, where it's direct conversations, where whatever your thinking is being challenged. i feel so strongly that this has to be a campaign that not only, well, let me just say, i fully intend to win. >> jimmy: oh, good. [cheers and applause] >> there is that. >> jimmy: not much point in going and doing this otherwise, yeah. >> but a metric of success for me will be that at the end of the process we are relevant. and so what i'm enjoying moist s

being in places where i listen, especially at this phase of it, more than i talk. and where i am validating or verifying or being set straight of really what are the priorities of people. and it's been a great process. >> jimmy: how does your family feel about this? >> so, so my husband is one of the most supportive people you've ever met. he has a great sense of humor. he loves people. and he joins me on the road when he can. but he's based here in l.a. >> jimmy: what is his name? >> doug. doug. >> jimmy: i don't know if we're ready for a first lady named doug. >> he's very much enjoying being the spouse of. he's very -- >> jimmy: oh, he is. >> he's very secure. and then our kids, we have two, 23 and 19. and they have been so incredibly supportive. >> jimmy: are they nervous about people prying into their lives?

>> i'm nervous about that. i'm nervous about that, because -- >> jimmy: did you go through all their stuff and go like we've got to check instagram and make sure everything's clear? >> well, we had a couple of talks. >> jimmy: yeah, right. you have to. >> well, look, it's, it is what it is. i mean, listen. we all know that nobody is perfect. i said that in my opening speech when i announced my candidacy in my hometown of oakland, california this froin front of people. i am not perfect. my husband is not perfect. our kids are not perfect, and i don't think the american people want people. what they want is a leader who is going to put their interest above self-interest. >> jimmy: based upon what's going on now, we definitely didn't want perfect. >> ya think? >> jimmy: we settled for something less than perfect. you got a big bump today.

cnn did a poll. and i think they have you in third. you jumped a lot of points behind bernie sanders and joe biden, who's not technically running yet. >> right. >> jimmy: but obviously, he's going to run. would you rather he doesn't run? >> i think that everyone who wants to run should run. and truly the more the merrier, because we do not lack for talent among democrats, and i think it is good to have a robust competition. to get to the point of determining who will be the nominee for the party. >> jimmy: are joe and bernie too old to be president of the united states? >> i think sage moage is more ta chronological fact. it's a state of mind. and if each candidate can show that they have an ability to understand where people are right now and also have a vision for the future, then i think they will be successful. >> jimmy: are people -- i'm sorry to interrupt. are people learning thousahow t

pronounce your first name? >> it helps when i tell them to say like comma, like a punctuation mark and add an la. >> jimmy: there was a wrestler who spelled his name the same way you do. >> i haven't checked up on him lately. do you know what's going on with him? >> jimmy: i don't think he's in great health, but he's still around. you might want to put him on the trail but. >> he would pack a big punch, ba-bum-bum. >> jimmy: you look like my mom. >> no kidding. wow, really? >> jimmy: it was my mother's birthday. >> oh, happy birthday! >> jimmy: it doesn't quite entirely capture it, but it -- >> she is fantastic. look at her.

>> jimmy: she's a little crazy, but she's lovely. yes. >> and you grew up in vegas. >> jimmy: i think of mom ela. >> that's what my kids use. we don't use the term stepmother. disney messed that up. they are technically my stepchildren. and they call me momela. and we have a very modern family. my husband's ex-wife and her mother came to our house for thanksgiving. >> jimmy: you got to get her in line. you got to make sure. >> we're an all good. >> jimmy: bring everyone into the circle. >> we have a huge, very modern family. it's really great actually. >> jimmy: senator warren, elizabeth warren had a town hall last night and says she thinks we should do away with the electoral college, do you agree with that?

>> i'm open to the discussion. there's no question that the popular vote has been diminished in terms of making the final decision about who's the president of the united states, and we need to deal with that, so i'm open to the discussion. >> jimmy: president trump wants to get rid of regular college, college all together. >> indeed. indeed, because, you know, exactly. i guess he's decided it's not important to read or write. >> jimmy: a lot of people running for the democratic nomination, and you mostly agree on things. would you say that's fair? >> i think on a lot of issues, yeah. that's right. >> jimmy: how are you different from, obviously besides being yourself and your background. but as far as policy goes, as far as plan goes, how are you different? for me, that's what i need to figure out. okay, there's a lot of people here. >> i understand. that's fair. obviously, it's going to be a long campaign, and, and all of us will, you know, have opportunities to speak and the

voters will learn more and obviously the voters will ultimately make the decision. i have the background of having been a leader. and i think the voters are going to decide who will be the next commander in chief and president of the united states based on experience, of leading. i led at the local government level and i was district attorney of san francisco. attorney general of california where i led an office of almost 5,000 people. and now obviously in the united states senate. i think people are going to want and look to who has a demonstrated ability to be a fighter and to be a fighter for the people. i've done that work. i took on the five big banks of the united states when we were fighting for the homeowners of california and by extension the nation around the foreclosure crisis and when they were basically stealing from homeowners around these predatory mortgage prak diss. i also believe that what voters are going to want, they are

going to want that there is someone who has the proven ability to prosecute the case against this administration. and this president. >> jimmy: yeah. people do want that. >> and that is going to be about having an ability and a proven ability to be able to articulate the evidence that makes the case for why we need new leadership in this country. >> jimmy: you're saying if you are president and donald trump is out of white house you will then continue to prosecute him and his various hench characters? >> i am very supportive of bob mueller being able to finish his process and do his job. >> jimmy: tell him to finish his process already. [cheers and applause] >> jimmy: senator harris is here. we'll be back more after this. ♪ [cheers and applause] >> dicky: portions of "jimmy kimmel live" are brought to you by yahoo sports. enter the best bracket millionaire contest at yahoo.com/bestbracket for your chance to win a million dollars. (mom) i pay too much

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i literally almost started crying. >> jimmy: that's big. >> i totally reverted. >> jimmy: who needs the space force when you have the actual force. >> and he's so interesting and so talented. >> jimmy: i have an idea for you guys. i think this would be a very potent ticket. [cheers and applause] you know? you could do a lot worse than luke skywalker. are things as divided behind the scenes as they appear to be when we see a hearing where people don't seem to have any common ground whatsoever? >> no. >> jimmy: they're not. do people, do republican senators complain about president trump? >> um, yeah. >> jimmy: they do. >> and they roll their eyes. i'm going to give you an example though, of also, well, first of all, i am leading two pieces of very significant pieces of legislation that are bipartisan. one is to reform the money bail system to get rid of money bail.

>> jimmy: that's happening here in california. >> it's happening in california because people are literally sitting in jail for days, weeks and months waiting to go t t trial because they don't have the money to get out. there's an economic injustice. and rand paul. i have a bill about what we need to do to secure the election systems and secure it so russians can't hack the elections and that's with a republican from oklahoma. this is another example of the work that hinappens behind the scenes. i am on the senate intelligence committee. and we receive twice a week for hours at end, information in a place called a skf, i i i i i location. about threats to our nation and issues we should be concerned about. when we walked in that room, there are no cameras.

there's no press. there's no audience. people take off their jackets. they roll up their sleeves, and some of the most civilized and important conversations take place in a way that is not only bipartisan but is non-partisan. so while we see so much of partisanship that is attempting to divide our country, i will tell you, at least in my experience, on these issues around national security in a skf, there is a lot of unit and that is heartening. >> jimmy: can i come to one of those? i'd love to be part of the skf. i really would. stay strong. i know it's going to be a grueling, i don't know how many months are left. >> a lot. >> jimmy: thank you for coming. >> thank you. >> jimmy: senator kamala harris! mark hamill is here. we'll be right back. we'll be right back. ♪

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>> jimmy: hi, welcome back. our next guest is a jedi knight beloved around the galaxy who trades in his light saber for a sword for the season premiere of "knightfall." >> love of god and devotion to him! two sacred pillars of our order. get each man must earn his own way into the temple. ponder this before the cross or defy me and be gone forever. >> jimmy: "knightfall" airs monday nights on history. please welcome mark hamill. [cheers and applause] ♪

[cheers and applause] >> jimmy: how you doin'? >> good. >> jimmy: was that a real beard? or were they extensions? >> it was over an hour every day -- >> jimmy: for the beard? >> for the beard, mustache, full wig, facial scars. i really didn't think it through. i read the script, and i do so much voiceover where you can show up looking like a slob. you don't have to memorize your lines. >> jimmy: no makeup, nothing. >> nothing. and it wasn't until i got over to prague where we shot it and did the first wardrobe fitting with the boots and tunic and belt and ax and shoulder pads and i thought oh, what have i gotten myself into. >> jimmy: did you regret it at that point, walking around prague dressed like a wizard? >> you know what i love about it is when you're finished. >> and you look notiin the mirr

and mark hamill disappears. this character, one of the reasons i felt i had to do it, it's so out of my wheel house. i don't get offered these kinds of epic dramas. >> jimmy: i would think especially on a show like this that has some fantasy element that literally every member of the production -- >> we don't have any dragons. this is the templar knights. it's brutal. it's gritty. it's gory with the poestilence and beheadings. it's all the glamour of the 14th century. you start doing your research, 50 was considered old age. you get a toothache, give you

whiskey and get out a pair of pliers. >> jimmy: this is based on reality. >> yes, very much so. >> jimmy: were you treated well as the new guy on the set? >> everyone was great. what happens is they send you these dvds to say will you be on our show. >> jimmy: right. >> and i never watched them with any thought of doing them. i'm in the elderly recluse of my career where a day spent in my pajamas all day is a win. >> jimmy: okay. >> it was hard just coming in here. >> jimmy: appreciate you putting on clothes, yeah. i i really do. we could have come to you. [cheers and applause] >> guillermo's in the way. normally they write the lines for you. here you have to come out and talk about something. >> jimmy: you didn't have to put a beard on. >> they glued the beard on over my own beard. >> jimmy: really? beard on beard.

>>ly >> i had to keep the beard on for something else. >> jimmy: what else did you have to keep the beard on for? >> it's nda, non-disclose usual. don't quote me. one of my favorite quotes of a politician. don't quote me and don't quote me as not wanting to be quoted. >> jimmy: so you were shooting simultaneously. >> possibly. >> jimmy: we know then maybe luke skywalker has a beard still and a body still in the next movie. >> which movie? >> jimmy: the movie, the movie you released a trailer. i don't know if you saw. on twitter, mark released a trailer. >> oh, yes. >> jimmy: his new trailer for "star wars." there's the new trailer for "star wars." >> thank you. i appreciate your, i appreciate thaw like that. because my kids are all rolling their eyes going "that's such a

dad joke". and i'm going, what's a dad joke? and they go, you know, obvious, full of puns. my son nathan said not funny. >> jimmy: i disagree, but i'm a dad also so i like a good dad joke. >> i like driving the disney executives crazy. because what are they going to do, fire me? [cheers and applause] >> jimmy: cut off your hands? >> i'm in the really calming lull between the time after you make the movie and before it comes out. they don't want you to say anything. >> jimmy: right, yeah. >> and i'm good at that. >> jimmy: mm-hm. >> but like i say on my twitter account. people are always saying when's the trailer dropping? what's the title? like they're going to -- they don't tell me that. i play dumb. i say they made another "star wars" movie? nobody tells me anything. >> jimmy: i didn't realize you were on "general hospital."

what year? >> 1970, '71. >> jimmy: who did you play. >> >>i played kent murray who w a nephew. kent, i know it's been hard losing your family. if there's anything i can do, you know what you can do? get out of my freakin' life. i was horrible. but the actress who played my sister, sister, i had met in drama school and she was my girlfriend. so i said to her, let's pretend like we don't know each other when we audition. how do you do. and they go gee, you kids have a tremendous amount of rapport with one another. we were like, well, we're just good actors. the jig was up when they started delivering the scripts to the same address. >> jimmy: yes. >> it was very taboo.

the producer said if we see you turning up in fan magazines holding hands and stuff it's going to turn the fans off like incest. >> jimmy: did they say luke and leia will be -- >> wow. >> jimmy: mark hamill! season two of "knightfall" premieres monday at 10:00 p.m. on history. and we'll return with music from judah and the lion. ♪ [cheers and applause] ♪ >> dicky: the "jimmy kimmel live" concert series is presented by mercedes-benz. the best or nothing.

>> jimmy: the jimmy kimmel concert series is presented by mercedes benz, the best or nothing. >> jimmy: i want to thank senator kamala harris and mark hamill. apologies to matt damon. "nightline" is next. but first, their album is called "pep talks." here with the song "over my head", judah and the lion! [cheers and applause] ♪ ♪ what's my purpose oh what's my future i don't know ♪ ♪ these are the questions i address before i go to sleep ♪ ♪ i wish my mind would turn off

with the lights and my tv screen ♪ ♪ but here in the dark everything off i start to think ♪ ♪ it gets hard to breathe i i i i ♪ ♪ i'm in over my i'm in over my head i'm in over my i'm in over my head ♪ ♪ all these thoughts are an ocean i'm drowning in ♪ ♪ i'm in over my i'm in over my head ♪ ♪ i'm in over my i'm in over my head ♪ i'm in over my i'm in over my head ♪ ♪ second guessing also stressed this test is an empty lie ♪ ♪ so what's the point if that's our purpose on earth by design ♪ ♪ all this stressing got me confessing that i can't find peace while ♪ ♪ i drink caffeinate medicate repeat i ♪ ♪ i drink caffeinate medicate repeat i i i i i ♪ ♪ i'm in over my i'm in over my head i'm in over my

i'm in over my head ♪ ♪ all these thoughts are an ocean i'm drowning in ♪ ♪ i'm in over my i'm in over my head i'm in over my i'm in over my head ♪ ♪ i'm in over my i'm in over my head ♪ ♪ it's all out of my control it's all out of my control ♪ ♪ it's all out of my control and it's all out of my control ♪ ♪ it's all

out of my control and it's all out of my control ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ i'm in over my head i'm in over my i'm in over my head ♪ ♪ i'm in over my i'm in over my head i'm in over my i'm in over my head ♪ ♪ i'm in over my i'm in over my head ♪ [cheers and applause] plause]

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