we appreciate your time, dan ashley. >> ama daetz. for chris and sandhya, thanks for being >> dicky: from hollywood, it's "jimmy kimmel live." tonight -- martin scorsese. from "when they see us," jharrel jerome. and music from the black keys. and now, look here, jimmy kimmel! [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: that's very nice. hi, everyone. i'm jimmy. i'm the host of the show. thank you for watching at home. thank you for leaving your homes to be here. thank you for tuning in after another ucrazy couple of days. a lot is happening in washington right now. what a weekend. remember last week there was a woman testifying in front of congress and donald trump being the stable genius we know he is decided to go on twitter and atta, cling a

lot of his supporters well, guesswhat? yesterday tweety gonlez out hisrange thumbs andheidt ag. this time he attacked a woman who works for mike pence currently. her name is jennifer williams. she's a special adviser to the vice president. she was also listening in on trump's now infamous call with the president of ukraine. there were more people on this call than there were at his inauguration. [ laughter ] so in her closed door testimony williams says trump specifically mentioned the name of the ukrainian company hunter biden worked for. it's called burisma. but that was omitted from the transcript the white house released. you know the one the president keeps telling us to read. well, turns out maybe that transcript has been sanitized for his protection. trump of course as soon as he heard this went right on the attack. he called this woman who works, again, for his vice president, a never trumper.

[ laughter ] it's like calling the hamburglar a vegetarian. it's ridiculous. she is scheduled to testify publicly tomorrow. and that'll be interesting. burisma is a word you don't forget. it sounds like a disease that makes you put your cat to sleep. it's not something that comes up in normal conversation. i don't know if this has anything to do with that, but the other big story this weekend was the president made an unplanned, unannounced trip to the hospital. the staff at walter reed hospital was given no advance notice of the president's visit, which is unusual. usually they're all told in advance. it sounds to me like maybe the old fella's pregnant. it's possible. [ laughter ] anyway, you know the president loves to talk about how healthy he is and how slow and tired everyone else is. this visit chips away at that. but there was a perfectly good reins for reason for it. at least according to white house press secretary stephanie grisham who had a not at all

suspicious-sounded explanation for a curious jeanine pirro. >> i understand it wasn't a scheduled annual visit. can you tell us what it was? >> yeah, absolutely. we've got a really busy year ahead, as you can imagine. and so the president decided to go to walter reed and kind of get a head start with some routine checkups as part of his annual exam. that's all it was. it was very routine. we had a down day today. and so he made the decision to head there. >> jimmy: they had a down day. every day is a down day. [ laughter ] by the way, this is trump's real schedule for today, for monday. we did not alter this for comic effect. first thing he had for the day was an intelligence briefing at 2:00 p.m. and then a meeting with the secretary of state at 4:15. and that's it. then back to the couch to watch fox news. [ laughter ] the dolphins at sea world have busier schedules than our president. but go on. what's the rest of the health story? >> and there's no truth to the rumors that it was something else? because the rumors are flying. >> oh, the rumors are always

flying. absolutely not. he is healthy as can be. i put a statement out about that. he's got more energy than anybody in the white house. that man works from 6:00 a.m. until, you know, very, very late at night. he's doing just fine. >> you know, stephanie, he's almost superhuman. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: right. he's faster than a tweeting bullet. [ laughter ] he's able to bankrupt tall buildings in a single bound. [ laughter ] the president of course shared an update on his health on twitter. he wrote "visit aid great family of a young man under major surgery at the amazing walter reed medical center. those are truly some of the best doctors anywhere in the world. also began phase one of my yearly physical. everything very good. great. will complete next year." next year. phase one was this weekend? phase two is next -- [ laughter ] was this a physical or a kitchen remodel? this probably won't be good for trump's health. the president now claims he

might want to testify in front of congress himself in the impeachment inquiry, which is a lie. [ laughter ] but that doesn't mean he didn't tweet it. this morning he wrote, stick with me on this our crazy do nothing where's usmca infrastructure and much more speaker of the house nervous nancy pelosi who's petrified by her radical left knowing them soon be gone. they and fake news media are her boss. suggested on sunday's deface the nation, clever, that i testify about the phony imwitch hunt. she also said i could do it in writing. even though i did nothing wrong and don't like giving credibility to this no due process hoax, i like the idea and will in order to get congress focused again strongly consider it." that's quite a sentence. 12 high school english teachers killed themselves after reading that sentence. [ laughter ] but the gist is the president claims he will strongly consider testifying.

he won't testify. that will never happen. but he will do some very strong considering of it. [ laughter ] maybe the strongest. no one considers more strongly than donald trump. they say he's almost superhuman, you know? [ laughter ] the only thing he ever strongly considers is original or extra crispy. that's it. [ laughter ] and by the way, hours after trump floated this idea of providing testimony the house launched an investigation into whether he lied in his testimony to special counsel robert mueller. he hope he testifies in person. i really do. it would be so much fun to see all the republicans in that chamber barking and wagging their tails when their owner walks in. wouldn't it? [ laughter ] meanwhile, on the democratic side of things, joe biden's doing everything he can to remind us that he is a very old person. joe biden says that if elected he will not legalize marijuana federally because he thinks it might be a gateway drug. that's correct. it is a gateway drug to not getting the democratic nomination for president.

[ applause ] he says there needs to be more research done. and it does lead to other things. first you try marijuana, then that leads to sass prila, which leads to black licorice, which leads to goofballs, to poppers, to malarkey. next thing you know you're selling your body for worther's originals. it's a slippery slope. but the idea they need to do more studies. they've already done the study for the last 80 years. you know how we know marijuana isn't a gateway drug? willie nelson isn't a crackhead. okay? [ laughter ] snoop dogg has a house. end of study. speaking of gateway drugs, did you guys sign up for disney plus? how many signed up for disney plus? [ applause ] disney plus is a you? streaming service that finally answers the question, what if there was even more stuff to watch? [ laughter ] and it's been a big hit largely because it's the only place you can see the new "star wars" spinoff, can the the mandalorian." and the big breakout star of

that series is baby yoda, who i think might be able to unite the country. like anytime you're in an argument with like a friend or relative about politics, all you have to do, just hold up this picture of baby yoda, and it'll be over immediately. baby yoda is going to finally bring us together. maybe baby yoda could be president of the united states. you know? that's not a bad idea. >> actually, sorry, excuse me, jimmy. that's not baby yoda. >> jimmy: what do you mean? yeah, it's clearly baby yoda. did you see the picture? >> i saw the picture. but it's not a picture of baby yoda. okay, look, the events of the mandalorian take place five years after the fall of the empire, which means it comes after return of the jedi. >> jimmy: okay. >> well, as we all know, yoda died in "return of the jedi," and oy later as a force ghost. >> jimmy: okay. well, i'm sorry if i misspoke -- >> no, you didn't misspeak. you were wrong. [ laughter ] look, this isn't baby yoda.

this is a baby of yoda's species. the name of which is still unknown. >> jimmy: okay. thank you very much. whatever. >> not whatever. that baby was 50 years old. yoda was 900 when he died. i mean, hello. come on. >> jimmy: i think we've got it. i think it's very -- >> no, i'm not sure you that do got it. okay? now, look. yes, okay? yes, it's possible that this could be a clone of yoda. but even then it wouldn't be baby yoda. it would be yoda 2.0. how stupid do you have to be not to get that? >> jimmy: are you finished now? >> i'm not sure. uncertain the future is. okay, look, you can't silence me. han shot first. you can't silen t -- han shfirst. [ applause ] >> jimmy: what i'm trying to say

is this baby yoda is really cute. we have a very good show for you tonight. one of maybe even the all-time greatest director the united states has ever known, martin scorsese is with us tonight. [ cheers and applause ] he's here to promote his great new movie "the irishman." and as you may know, martin scorsese has been getting some attention for comments he made about marvel movies. he said among other things that he doesn't think those movies are cinema, which upset a lot of people. and anyone who knows me knows that the one thing i hate is to see people upset. and that's why i'm pleased to announce -- no, not just announce. i'm pleased to bring you the world premiere trailer for the first ever collaboration between marvel and martin scorsese. [ phone rings ] >> hello. >> hi, frank. would you like to be a part of history? >> yes, i would. >> only two people in the world have one of these. and only one of them is irish.

>> whatever you need me to do, i'm available. i also do my own carpentry. >> i never waited for anyone who was -- >> you've become part of a bigger universe. i'm here to talk to you about the avenger initiative. >> i don't think so. >> "irish man"! [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: problem solved. all right. hey, we've got a great show tonight. we have music from the black keys, jharrel jerome is here, and we'll be right back with martin scorsese!

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>> jimmy: he is an emmy award winner at a very young age from "when they see us," jharrel jerome is here with us. [ cheers and applause ] then their latest album is called "let's rock." the black keys from the mercedes-benz outdoor stage. [ cheers and applause ] you can see the black keys live tomorrow night at the forum here in los angeles. tomorrow night on our show michael douglas and victoria beckham will join us, with music from dj shadow and de la soul. and later this week, garth brooks, billie eilish, mike birbiglia, taylor kitsch, and jessie reyez. please join us for all of that. simply put, our first guest is one of the great artists in american history. he has given us "goodfellas," "taxi driver," "mean streets,"

"raging bull." i think he may have directed a couple of the "smurfs" movies. [ laughter ] his latest is also one of his best. it's called "the irishman." it's in select theaters now and premieres on netflix november 27th. please welcome, martin scorsese. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> thank you. thank you. thank you. >> jimmy: great to have you here. thank you for coming. [ cheers and applause ] >> thank you. >> jimmy: that's right. [ cheers and applause ] you see what happens when you make great movies? people love it. and they love you. >> wow. >> jimmy: and happy birthday to you as well. >> thank you. >> jimmy: yesterday was your birthday. 77? >> 77, yeah. double 7. >> jimmy: what do you do on a

77th birthday? ihop? >> no, no. they got me and went to the getty museum. i was hanging out with the etruscans and the greeks and the romans. >> jimmy: that's a great museum. >> it really is. >> jimmy: you walked around? >> i walked around the atrium, the whole -- >> jimmy: do people flip when they see you? >> no, there were people leaving and we got in as they were leaving. you know what i mean? >> jimmy: perfect. >> and stumbled about. and i've always wanted to go there. i'm just fascinated. i've been trying to make it to pompeii but i haven't been there since 1970. >> jimmy: it hasn't changed. >> no, it hasn't. they're still dead. this had more life to it. >> jimmy: i was there a few years back and yeah, it's pretty much the same. well, you did get a nice gift for your birthday. you've got great reviews for "the irishman." [ cheers and applause ] >> amazing. >> jimmy: i don't know if that's on your radar or not. >> it's amazing. >> jimmy: this movie is based on a book called "i heard you paint houses." >> right. >> jimmy: which is a great phrase. explain what that means. >> well, house painters but the

thing is there's only one shade. red. >> jimmy: red. yeah. >> and we also do carpentry. >> jimmy: and this is a book that is a true story presumably. >> yes. yeah. >> jimmy: i would imagine you get every single mafia-related book sent to you. >> over the past number of years there have been a few that have been circling about and that sort of thing. but this was interesting because eric roth gave it to bob de niro and de niro and i have been trying to make a picture again since "casino." that was 1995. so it was a long time since we had worked together. and we tried to find all these other projects, remakes of "the bad and the beautiful," remember the story about hollywood with kirk douglas, all that sort of thing. and finally it came down to a situation where we decided that we're going to make a film about an aging hit man supposedly. we were working on this one project. but it was kind of a genre piece and i don't know how to do genre anymore and the genre that i know goes back to 1948. it doesn't pay.

so the -- eric gave him this book. supposedly the memoirs of a hit man so to speak. and bob came to talk to me about the character. and as he was talking about the character he became rather emotional about it. and i said that's something. now, if we are going to go back into that milieu, which we were associated with in casino and "good fellas," then this is something that maybe we could learn a little more about ourselves and go deeper. you know? otherwise, what are we doing? just repeating ourselves. and so we took a chance and steve zalian came in and wrote the script. the book is by charles brant. and by that point basically no y one would finance the picture. >> jimmy: how much do you believe the book, do you believe the text of the book? >> i don't know if it's necessary to believe that that actually happened that way or who did what. i was interested in how it

affects the people involved, especially when they're in their 80s and alone ultimately and they think back on their lives, the choices you make in life, the consequences of a life. so therefore, if some of the facts aren't quite right, then it really is more about the characters up front in a way. the rest is just a backdrop. you could take the gangster milieu and you can make it politics, you can make it business. >> i think we've actually done that for real in this country. >> exactly. >> jimmy: the gangster milieu is on cnn every day. >> exactly. exactly. who said what, when, where. >> jimmy: you know new york mobster stories. are you going to make one about trump? [ laughter ] by the way, de niro is great in the movie. >> oh, he is. >> jimmy: and he is in -- he's present in 95% of the film. >> yeah. >> jimmy: he's really in this one. and also, this is -- it's so

hard to imagine that this is your first time working with al pacino. >> i met al in 1970. francis coppola introduced me to him. but then al did godfather 1, then godfather 2, and he's in with lumet and sidney pollack and he's like in the stratosphere. i was still making films with my friends, bob and harvey and a couple of people. he was not within my reach any longer and he started working with depalma a lot. >> idea that no one's -- everyone's in your reach. i mean, really. >> so what happens is that finally we get together on this project and bob said al will play jimmy hoffa. i said okay. so we met with al. this is about nine years ago. and we talked to him about it. >> jimmy: wow. >> yeah. we talked to him about it. and here's the thing. i never worked with al before but diane had worked with him. i asked bob what's it like to work with him? and bob gave me so concise and enlightened a reaction.

he said "he's great. you'll see." [ laughter ] i said does he -- "it's al. it's al. it's al." okay. so the big thing was that half the picture takes place when they're younger. by the time we got the financing from netflix, because no one would give us the financing for the picture -- >> jimmy: so they were your last choice? >> they were my first choice because nobody else would do it. [ laughter ] i said look, of a budget because of the cgi effects. we were doing this youthification. >> jimmy: right. >> and it was an experiment. the whole thing was an experiment. because we could not -- there was a certain point after we finished the script that we could have probably had them play younger by waited too long, i did another film. he did another film. and by the sometime we got around together, they were too old to play young. [ laughter ] so we wound up doing this cgi thing which was really rema remarkable. it was purely experimental. >> jimmy: how does it work?

do they have to do anything special, the actors, to -- >> no. everything special was done in the prep. tons of preparation with ilm and -- >> jimmy: is it only their faces or is it their bodies? >> no, it's the bodies too. you see, that's the issue. we even had a stunt posture man on the picture. look sit up. >> jimmy: sounds like the worst superhero ever. posture man. >> posture man. gary. gary taken. he was great. i'd see gary talking, straighten up. the one thing with al, the picture starts shooting and it was a long shoot because the cgi is complicated. each camera has three lenses on it. and i was shooting with two cameras. sometimes we were carrying nine cameras. so it was complicated. a lot of people on the set that means. and i'm short. >> jimmy: mm-hmm. >> i can't get to the actors. there are these people doing camera. so we have al, first day of shooting, we're doing a scene where al is sitting in a chair, his family is with him, he's watching the election results on tv. about the kennedys.

and he's really angry at the kennedys. and he gets up at one point, i can't watch this anymore, he storms out. and i had two cameras on him. and rodrigo prita's my camera man, david bresnan, pablo the cgi. >> jimmy: he's the best. >> yeah. gary posture -- >> jimmy:'ll posture gary. >> let's shoot. two cameras. i'm looking at the video looking at al. and it was really good. i said let's emphasize this bit a little more. one more time. fantastic. he does it again he gets up he walks out. i thought it was great. good, i said. rodrigo why don't we try to get the wider shot now? he said we can't get the wider shot. what is it? they all came up to me long faces and they said al. i said what is it? they said he's supposed to be 49. i said he's -- al's 78. >> jimmy: yeah. >> and he had the little dots on his face and everything.

but when he gets up he's supposed to be 49. >> jimmy: ah. >> and so i looked at them and i said you tell him. [ laughter ] it's my first day with him. 40 years and i've got to go tell him. >> jimmy: al, we need you to spring up. >> spring up there. they said all right, i'll tell him. is everything okay? yeah, al, you're great. you're terrific. the only thing is you're supposed to be 49. he goes, oh, god. oh. all right, all right, we're going to try. gary went there, got him all set up. okay. ready? and action. one more time. and we do it, and i look around the guys. and al looks up and says, 62. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: it seems like a fair compromise. martin scorsese is here. "the irishman" is his movie. we'll be right back. >> dicky: portions of "jimmy kimmel live" are brought to you by the all-new all-electric ford mustang mach-e.

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i have one. angelo has one. now you have one. >> this is beautiful. i don't know what to say. >> slip it out. see how it looks. >> feel good? >> yeah. see how strong i made you? you're my kid. >> that is joe pesci and robert de niro and martin scorsese's "the irishman." doesn't get any better than that. how did you get joe pesci, who famously retired, who doesn't want to do anything other than play golf? >> well, now he denied he retired. >> jimmy: oh, he's now denied that? >> yes. he said he just wasn't working. [ laughter ] but he was very -- you know, he became reticent about the whole situation and bob was calling

him, and we had -- we said come on, al's going to be in it and bob and you. he said yeah, but it's again a gangster thing, we've done it before. but this is going to be different. he wouldn't listen really. and eventually, eventually when netflix came into the picture, he accepted the calls. >> jimmy: okay. >> and he took them seriously. and i listened about all his concerns and everything else. i said, yes, but you haven't read it yet. and believe me, when you read it, then we can discuss it further. all right, i'll read it, okay. and eventually what happened is that we got together and he -- it's interesting with joe because in a subject matter like this in some cases, a little complicated, in some cases the script is written almost like -- zailli zaillian wrote the script of course but i put in a little voice-over and it's not objective. and that kind of threw him off. he has to just become that role.

when he has to become that role. but it has to be from the inside. not like -- brant is a wonderful writer. and he's an investigative reporter too. so there is that essence, a feeling of somebody from the outside telling a story. it's got to come from the inside. and he had to find his way through the -- his truth. the straight truth of that. i said okay, let's just read -- they said i don't want to read it. i said you've got to read it. you're going to change all the lines anyway. first you've got to know. first you've got to know what the hell the scene's about. i'm going to listen to him because he's the guy who came up with "what, do you think i'm funny?" >> jimmy: that's the most scariest and most thrilling -- >> i'm going to listen. it took a long -- then we finally got it, we finally worked on it with steve and brandt and bob and everybody together. we even got to a rehearsal, a

scene where he's fixing the motor. we had changed the dialogue four or five times for that scene. and somehow, i don't know how it happened, but we're in rehearsal with an actual truck. we're doing it in front of the truck. somehow he's working out with the motor. de niro comes back and he says thanks a lot, thanks. and he shakes his hand. and de niro says -- he says what's your name? and de niro says frank sharon. and there's quiet. and bob goes, what's yours? and joe just looks at him and says, where are you from? and that was the character. he had the authority. you knew that he was a man who was very powerful. he said where are you from? he said you know, philadelphia. he said where do you hang? such and such a place. hibachi court. ever play bocce there. and then joe throws in you play bocce? no. take care of the motor. it's going to go on you again. it was so natural. and that became the character.

>> jimmy: over a truck. >> yeah. >> jimmy: by the way, ray romano's great in the movie. >> oh, ray is fantastic. >> jimmy: isn't he terrific in the movie? [ applause ] >> this guy is amazing. >> jimmy: jim norton plays don rickles. and that was a great scene. and you know, i knew don very well. and i feel like if he'd seen that he would be so mad at you. he'd be furious. because like why -- that's me. somebody else is playing me. >> we had to get don in the film. and norton, that's the actual dialogue based on certain sources, certain books, that's the actual dialogue that night of his act. he said i make fun of everyone. he says italians. not those italians. that's when joey gallo pretended to throw the bottle at him. don't shoot, don't shoot. >> jimmy: i've heard him tell that story and it is exactly as i imagined it would be in the film. >> we had to have it end there. >> jimmy: well, you did the right thing. whether he likes it or not. well, it's great to have you here. >> thank you. >> jimmy: thank you so much for coming. the movie is fantastic.

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ooh! ♪ here it is, the mustang mach-e. and the only way to get one is to reserve it online. but i can't wait. look. a chupacabra. giddy-up mustang. whee! [ applause ] >> jimmy: oh, there he is. guillermo. guillermo, you drove it here with a sheet on it? >> yes. it was very hard, jimmy. are you ready to see the car? >> jimmy: i am ready to see the car. >> let's make it quickly. >> jimmy: let's see the car. here we go. and there she is. [ cheers and applause ] the ford mustang mach-e. it's beautiful. to get one, go to ford.com to reserve yours online. >> jimmy, i have to go. >> jimmy: okay, guillermo. i'll see you later. the new all-electric mustang mach-e. thanks to guillermo for uncovering it for us. we really appreciate it. >> you're welcome, jimmy. >> jimmy: we'll be back with jharrel jerome.

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>> jimmy: hi. welcome back. still to come, the black keys. at 22 years old our next guest is already an emmy-winning actor for his role in "when they see us." it is available on netflix now. please welcome, jharrel jerome. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ how are you doing? >> good. i'm good. >> jimmy: we got a chance to chat when we were in brooklyn last month. >> yeah. >> jimmy: you came to the show with your parents. >> i did. >> jimmy: and your parents are here at the show again with you. >> right there. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: hi, guys. your parents are very nice. >> yeah. >> jimmy: do they go with you to a lot of things? >> no. actually, this is my first time my dad's in l.a. ever. >> jimmy: oh, wow. >> he's cooped up in the bronx all the time. so i got him out of there. and my mom usually travels with me everywhere. she came to the emmys with me. >> jimmy: your mom was at the emmys with you. your speech at the emmys was

maybe the best moment of the show. [ cheers and applause ] that was fantastic. so your dad didn't get to come to the emmys with you. >> no. >> jimmy: why not? >> i had to bring one person. so it was -- >> jimmy: oh, you only had a plus one. >> i only hay plus one. so it was like -- and mama wins all the time. >> jimmy: i know how it goes. what about the golden globes? presuming you get nominated for a golden globe, will you bring dad? >> i'm getting like intense stares right now. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: you can get more than one ticket, by the way. well, maybe i shouldn't be saying this. he might be able to get more than one ticket. >> if jimmy says it. >> jimmy: have you thought about having a contest to see which one earns the spot at the golden globes over the next few months? >> no, i haven't. but i should. >> jimmy: it's not a bad idea. >> who can do the most jumping jacks or something more intense. >> jimmy: no. who makes me the best meals. and really treats you the best. >> this is becoming really

awkward right now. >> jimmy: yeah. that's my specialty. how did you celebrate after you won the emmy? with your mom you guys hang out all night or what? >> we actually went to in-n-out burger. >> jimmy: that's the thing you do here in l.a. [ applause ] >> yeah. went to in-n-out. >> jimmy: you walk into in-n-out after the emmys or the oscars and there are just trophies all over the counter. >> no. >> jimmy: no, there weren't. >> it was actually just me in there amongst everyone -- >> jimmy: most people drive through, yeah. you went in. >> actually, it's funny. i went in when it was super late. so we thought it was going to be closed. so the plan was to bring the emmy to the door and be like -- and see if i get in. but it was actually open. so we were like okay, let's keep it in the car. we went inside. everyone was in their tux opened, lazy shoes off. we thought we were getting away from it all. when we went in there everybody was looking at me like that. i'm like i'm just here for a

burger. it was crazy. >> jimmy: the last year was -- you were in "moonlight," which of course as we know was -- [ cheers and applause ] we have a great picture of you. i'm sure you've seen this a million times. but this is the moment -- zoom in if we could. this is the moment when after the wrong best picture winner had been announced, "la la land" they correct td and said "moonlight" was the winner. and you -- that's quite a reaction there. that's solid. [ applause ] i was in the middle of that whole thing, by the way. >> yeah. you were there. >> jimmy: yeah. what was going through your mind at that moment? >> i mean, pretty much everything and nothing at the same time. like i was -- i felt numb. i felt like i was out of my body. that's not me in that picture. that's somebody else. >> jimmy: were you disappointed when the movie didn't win? >> yeah. i was definitely a little crushed because for me i was there for the team. you know, i didn't feel -- like the emmys it was kind of more personal. it was for me.

>> jimmy: individually. >> "moonlight" was for the best picture. so it's almost like i want td for me and my cast members and everyone that was a part of it, we put so much into it. so of course i had a little like uh. but my phone was ringing in my pocket and it was my mom saying it's okay, you're still a winner in my heart. but she also said keep a straight face, the camera's looking at you. i'm kind of biting my tongue like -- >> jimmy: that wasn't much of a straight face you have there. >> and even though only two minutes had passed where "la la land" was kind of accepting everything, it felt like a year had gone by. >> jimmy: it felt like that to me too. because i was confused. yeah. >> you know, i saw you that night. i doubt you remember anything. but you were like this. >> jimmy: it was very confusing. i mean, for a while it seemed like people were going to blame me for it even though i wasn't even on stage when it happened. >> i'm pretty sure i blamed you first. [ laughter ] lrptd also, like oprah i think

praised you on instagram. what is that like -- huh met oprah before? >> no, not when she posted me on instagram. it was really a picture of me and my face. >> jimmy: and who tells you that that's on there? >> i guess i can't remember who told me because i'm more focused on what i felt when i saw it. >> jimmy: what did you feel when you saw it? >> i dropped my phone. i really did. you know one of those moments in the movies where it's like whoa and everything drops. i dropped my phone. >> jimmy: you did. >> yeah. >> jimmy: did oprah buy you a new phone? >> no. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: have you spent time with oprah since that moment? >> i actually ended up going to dinner with oprah. jfrpt o >> jimmy: oh, that's good. just the two of you? [ applause ] that's where mom gets jealous. >> i was with oprah winfrey, colin kaepernick, i was with reese witherspoon, i was with ava duvernay and the real korey wise. it was pretty much all of us at a stable with other guests but -- >> jimmy: where is this, a tgi friday's?

cabo wabo? >> it was at the wendy's up on -- no. it was at array. ava's building. she has a huge campus. >> jimmy: i see. was there a moment at all where somebody -- like okay, who's going to pay for this? did people just assume oprah would pay for it? >> i'm pretty sure. >> jimmy: yeah, that's how it's got to go. >> i didn't even eat my food. i swear. my food was sitting there and i'm like -- like looking around terrified. it was incredible. >> jimmy: well, congratulations on all your success. if you haven't seen "when they see us," it's terrific. it's on netflix now. and jharrel jerome, everybody. thank you, jharrel. we'll be right back with the ♪ live" concert series is presented by the 2019 a class. mercedes-benz. the best or nothing.

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>> dicky: the "jimmy kimmel live" concert series is presented by mercedes-benz. the best or nothing. >> jimmy: i'd like to thank martin scorsese and jharrel jerome. apologies to matt damon. we ran out of time for him. "nightline" is next, but first this is their album, "let's rock," here with the song

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