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has concluded. go in peace to love and serve fish sticks again for dinner. good night. >> announcer: this is "nightline." tonight, ahmaud arbery, black, unarmed, and gunned down while jogging. now a grieving mother searching for answers. >> his last words to me was "i love you." >> her son's death reopening racial wounds. the new surveillance video showing the final minutes before everything changed. forever. plus, transforming pain into a path to healing. how two mothers, their sons shot and killed in america, are fighting for change. >> announcer: "nightline," 74 days gone, starts right now with byron pitts. good evening. thank you for joining us. tonight, 74 days gone by before
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georgia prosecutors brought charges against a white father and his son for killing an unarmed young black man. it's a case that's renewed debate over old demons, prompting a national outcry over policing, race and justice delayed. >> in one point i feel really hopeless that my son was killed and the people that could help me was not helping me. >> reporter: from a parent's perspective wanda cooper jones is living a nightmare, the kind you don't wake up from. >> you know, as parents i think it's always our expectation that our children will bury us, not that we will bury them. >> i never thought that i would lose him in the midst of jogging. i mean, that was -- i never thought i would lose him that way. >> reporter: it's bone deep, this kind of grief. familiar to too many parents across the country, in particular black parents. two months ago wanda's son, 25-year-old ahmaud arbery, was
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killed. chased and gunned down by white men while jogging on a sunny georgia neighborhood street in february. do you remember your last conversation with him? >> i told him i was leaving, i'll be back, and i love you. and his last words to me was "i love you." >> reporter: arbery's death did not become a point of national rage until this graphic video of the shooting leaked to the public last week. it immediately ignited a firestorm across the country. >> no justice! no peace! >> reporter: on social media. across racial and party lines. >> major developments tonight in that case igniting national outrage. >> a young unarmed black man shot and killed. >> demands for an arrest have grown louder. >> reporter: culminating in arrest and murder charges 74 days after he was killed. >> the moment i see that tape i say to myself, not again. >> reporter: now ahmaud arbery's face and name etched on america's new mt. rushmore of
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sorts. not to old pride but renewed pain. many of them martyred while they were still on the shy side of manhood. >> america's going to have to address its long violent brutal history of racism and how it plays out in our current criminal justice system. >> reporter: and old questions renewed. why so long to make an arrest and why if justice is blind are black and brown people so often harmed by a system designed to heal? so tell me about your son. >> he was the baby of the family. >> reporter: he played football in high school. >> all he did is work out. when you called him, you talked to him, he's working out. i bought him a weight set, wanted to work out because i know that's all he wanted to do. >> reporter: ahmaud graduated high school, attended south georgia technical college, and worked at his father's landscaping and car wash business. how often would he jog? >> every day. if it wasn't drenching rain, ahmaud jogged. >> reporter: on february 23rd
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ahmaud's family believes he went on his daily jog, leaving his mother's home just outside brunswick, eventually running through satilla shores, a mostly white neighborhood just a few miles away. around 1:00 in the afternoon someone called 911. >> there's a guy in a house right now. it's a house under construction. >> and you said someone's breaking into it right now? >> no, it's all open. it's under construction. >> that's fine. i'll get them out there. i just need to know what he was doing wrong. was he just on the premises and not supposed to be? >> reporter: georgia state investigators are reviewing this video, obtained by our affiliate first coast news, that appears to be from the same day. it seems to show a person walking into a house that is under construction. video from inside the site was given to abc news from the homeowner. it shows a man in a white shirt and khaki shorts looking around for about three minutes. arbery's family attorney says they believe this is ahmaud but emphasize that he was not breaking the law. the homeowner told abc news
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nothing was missing or stolen and that he has never reported any burglaries. a second 911 call includes what sounds like a confrontation and yelling. >> i don't know what street we're on. stop! watch it! stop! >> reporter: what happened next is a thing of night terrors for countless people of color. terror born out of jim crow. the cell phone video is graphic. we can only show you a few seconds. enough to see arbery running, veering around a pickup truck. then you see him struggling with a man holding a shotgun. [ gunshot ] by the time the police arrive the 25-year-old was dead in the street. >> i received a phone call about 7:30 and it was eastern time. the call came in from an investigator. then he went on to say that ahmaud was involved in a burglary, in the midst of the burglary there was a confrontation with the homeowner and in the midst of that confrontation there was a fight over the firearm and ahmaud was unfortunately shot and killed.
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>> reporter: i'm struck by this investigator's description of what happened doesn't bear out the facts of what happened. >> it didn't make any sense. we've never had any problems with anybody. i had major concerns at that point. major. >> reporter: the two men in the video, a father and son, identified as gregory and travis mcmichael. 64-year-old gregory used to work in county law enforcement, first as a police officer, then as an investigator for the local district attorney's office. according to the police report, the pair said they believe arbery was responsible for "several break-ins in the neighborhood." the older mcmichael described how he and his son, armed with a handgun and a shotgun, chased arbery, trying to cut him off more than once, intending to make a citizen's arrest. >> under georgia law you can conduct a citizen's arrest for any crime. you can only chase the person down if they are trying to escape if it's a felony.
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so you would have to be able to show in the context of this case that there was a burglary to even allow them to try to engage in this citizen's arrest. >> reporter: gregory mcmichael told police his son travis killed arbery after he says arbery violently attacked him. gregory and travis mcmichael met with police the day of the shooting, and that's when the conflicts of interest began. first the prosecutor who covered the county where the incident happened. she had to remove herself because gregory mcmichael used to work in her office. then the second prosecutor who took over, he too removed himself from the case because of his connection to this father and son. but he went even further, writing in a letter that what happened was legal and that the victim in this case was the aggressor. the d.a. also pointed to arbery's criminal record. a gun charge from 2013 when he
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was 19 years old and a shoplifting charge from 2018. one was investigated by mcmichael. but it's unknown if the two actually knew one another. >> very often when black people are killed in this way the very first thing that law enforcement does is say, oh, they're criminals. oh, have you seen their background? >> if he was a white kid he would have never got racial profiled. >> reporter: ahmaud's parents say they will never watch the video. they already know what it shows. some have described this as a modern-day lynching, as modern-day jim crow. how do you see it? >> i agree it. the way i've always saw it is he was hunted down like he was an animal and they took his life. >> reporter: the autopsy revealed arbery was hit by three shotgun blasts. one grazed his right wrist. the other two hit him in the chest. just one day after the video surfaced the georgia bureau of
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investigation took over the case. a little more than 24 hours after that this happened. gregory and travis mcmichael were arrested in charged. 74 days after ahmaud arbery's death. >> you are being charged with the crime of felony murder. >> there was no move to do anything until there was a public outcry. that type of response suggests that they didn't arrest these men because they saw a tape. they arrested the men because we saw a tape. >> reporter: the mcmichaels have not yet entered their pleas. both men are still being held in jail. state investigators say there could be more charges coming, saying they're looking at william roddy bryan, a neighbor of mcmichael's, who took the cell phone video. >> i'm not proud that i shot the video. but maybe it helps in the end. >> reporter: the state attorney general has officially asked the u.s. department of justice to
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investigate the handling of the case. did you guys ever have what they call the talk, the conversation that many parents of color often have with their children? >> many occasions, yes. >> fact is the talk doesn't work. wanda cooper could have had a conversation with ahmaud about not stepping by property under construction or not running away from men with guns as they chase you and get shot and fight. the problem is not with the victims. the problem is with the system that continues to allow this to happen. it's time for us now to begin to speak truth to the systems that are allowing this thing to happen over and over and over again. >> reporter: the talk did not save ahmaud, nor will the justice system bring him back. his parents pray his dying will not be in vain. what is your hope for your son's legacy? >> i'm hoping that in the state of georgia they will implement a law that governs the hate crime
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because i do believe that was a hate crime. i know it was officers there that knew when they arrived and my son was laying in the road that something wasn't right. but no one spoke up. and it's really sad. up next -- how two mothers became a voice for change after their sons were killed.
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it is a haunting reality in the u.s. unarmed black americans are at higher risk of being shot and killed than whites. some deaths invoking nationwide protests like that of botham jean in dallas and jackson davis. jean an accountant fatally shot by a police officer while eating ice cream in his apartment. the officer claimed she entered the wrong home. davis, a 17-year-old high school student, gunned down by a man angry over loud music playing in a car parked next to his. davis was inside the vehicle with three of his friends when he was killed. two young men, their futures
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gone, their parents now part of a club no parent wants any-party of. earlier today i spoke to allison jean and congresswoman lucie mcbath, two parents who turned their heartbreak and anger into hope and optimism. ladies, thank you so much. i'm so sorry to talk to you again under these circumstances. i can't think of two women on earth who know better what this family is going through the heartache they've endured and the hurdles they'll soon face. first question, your reaction when you heard about what happened. lucy, first you. >> all the horrible and horrific feelings i had came flooding back to me immediately. it was very, very painful. and there again i felt like there's another mother that is feeling exactly what i have felt, experienced exactly what i've experienced. and no matter what i'd done to protect him and nurture him and care for him it didn't matter
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because at the end of the day he was a young black male who was gunned down. he was murdered in cold blood. and we've seen this all too often in the united states of america. >> allison, how about for you? >> before i saw the video, when i saw ahmaud's looks so much like botham, that it brought back, i know how a mother feels to lose a child. so my heart gaez out oes out tos mom as well. >> what do we tell our sons about living in america? >> i think parents and black children is not enough. there must be further racial unity conversation. there must be that conversation among blacks, among whites, among human beings. >> lucy, from the perspective of someone who's lived through
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this, what does progress look like you to? >> progress to me looks like changing the culture of guns in america. but also merging that with policy change. but also adding in that layer of making sure that we have leadership in the country that is acknowledging what's happening to communities of color and being willing to stand up in opposition to the nra and the gun lobby. >> allison, what message would you give to the arbery family about the road to justice and the path to healing for them? >> to keep focus, keep on the case, keep it up because it appears that when black men are killed in america if there is a perception that they do not have family who care about them these cases just get cold and get lost. >> do you pause to think ever that your work has been in vain, that young people, young men of color are still dying?
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>> of course we're -- >> i'm a bit frustrated. everyone -- every time another one is killed i'm a bit frustrated. but i believe it is a long road to achieve in that success. it's a journey that we need to stick to. because anytime we keep silent then people forget. >> lucy, the final word. >> yes, we're angry. yes, we're devastated. every single time we see another young black male that's been gunned down in his own community, we see our children's faces. and the whole -- the pain is just -- it reverberates in our spirits and our souls all over again. but the thing is that i want people to understand and know that they cannot feel helpless. the best voice you have is to be able to stand up and demand better from america.
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stand up. speak out. >> that's right. >> demand from your state and local legislators. demand more from your clergy. demand more from the people that represent you. demand more from me, your policy makers, to protect you and to keep you safe. that is your right. >> congresswoman lucy mcbath, allison jean. ladies, thank you as always for your grace, your wisdom, your witness. godspeed to you both. >> thank you so much. >> thank you, byron. and next, running in remembrance of ahmaud arbery, who would have turned 26. sorias. now, there's skyrizi. ♪ things are getting clearer, yeah i feel free ♪ ♪ to bare my skin ♪ yeah that's all me. ♪ nothing and me go hand in hand ♪ ♪ nothing on my skin ♪ that's my new plan. ♪ nothing is everything. keep your skin clearer with skyrizi. 3 out of 4 people achieved
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and finally tonight, another example of the resounding impact of ahmaud arbery's death. >> this is for ahmaud. >> thousands of americans hitting the pavement on friday for arbery, who would have turned 26 that day but gunned down while on a jog in georgia. his life remembered and celebrated by runners across the country. >> i just finished my 2.2 miles for ahmaud.
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>> jogging for 2.23 miles. referencing the date arbery was killed. gone but not forgotten. >> happy birthday to ahmaud arbery. rest in peace, king. >> it was 19th century american abolitionist and statesman frederick douglass who said power concedes nothing without a demand. it never has, it never will. that's "nightline" for this evening. you can catch our full episodes on hulu. see you right back here same time tomorrow. thanks forts company, america. good night. ♪ pa-da-pa, pa-da-pa, pa-da-pa ♪ pa-da-pa, pa-da-pa, pa-da-pa ♪ jimmy kimmel live >> from his house! >> jimmy: hi there. i'm jimmy. here we are again. you in your house, me in mine. i hope you had a successful mother's day.
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this was probably the strangest mother's day ever, especially for me. i spent some of my mother's day in a twitter feud with -- you know that weird baby that lives in the white house? the one with the orange face? well, he is in a mood! and apparently part of the reason for that mood is because of something that i did. on thursday night i showed a video. it was one of these embarrassing photo ops of mike pence, the vice president, carrying boxes, delivering ppe to a facility for senior citizens. it was a publicity stunt to show how much they're "doing." but that happens in politics, ok. fine. the trouble started because at one point of the video, after awkwardly lugging a heavy box to the door, pence finds some empty boxes in the van. why there were empty boxes in the back of the van i don't know. but he finds them and he says, "can i just carry the empty ones just for the camera?" which turns out he was joking. how anyone can tell when mike pence is joking i don't know.

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