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the slave. for all of us at abc news, good nighrica leave for a long time. >> i never got back out. >> what is truly amazing is that for the first time we have all three women sharing their story. >> it was a veritable house of horror. >> you're chained to a radiator. >> he touched many an and touch. >> he controlled everything you said and did. >> everybody knew ariel castro. >> if you looked into his eyes, they were black like he had no soul. >> he hated the fact that i couldn't be broken. >> how often did you think you were not going to survive?
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>> may 6, 2013, the gritty heartland city of cleveland witnessed a miracle. >> help me, i'm amanda berry. i've been kidnapped, and i've been missing for ten years. and i'm -- i'm here. i'm free now. >> amanda berry is abducted the day before her 17th birthday. >> amanda told the police, i ain't just the only one. it's some more girls up in that house. >> gina dejesus returns here. she is indeed home. >> gina dejesus was walking home from school, and that was the last time that she was ever seen. >> michelle knight was never on our radar at all. >> police arrested who owns the home is -- >> their abductor, it turns out, was a deranged school bus driver, ariel castro. >> throughout their captivity these women held on to one thing, one thing that kept them going, and that was that their families would not give up on them.
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and ten years later, it was that faith that finally brought them home. >> now we want the world to know. >> we survived. >> we love life. >> we were stronger than ariel castro. >> reporter: could you have imagined that you would be sitting here and saying that knowing all the things that you've gone through in your life? >> oh, my gosh, not really. i didn't know i was going to actually make it. ♪ cleveland was your typical american industrial city. it was struggling to find itself in a new economy. >> well, it struggles from the bad image of the mistake on the lake. >> there's a lot of poverty in the city. a lot of heart. >> you see people on their porches and kids playing in the street. >> the west side, middle to lower class folks working at the factories, in the mills, were raising their families.
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>> hard working people. decent, do the right thing, help you if they can. >> from a law enforcement perspective, it's never a dull moment. always something. >> there were drugs, robberies, shootings, gang activity. >> very inner city. but at the same time, it was full of great families. it was full of hope. >> growing up in cleveland, i love the area. it was very beautiful, but i hated my home life. >> michelle had a terrible childhood. for a time, her family lived in the car. they were itinerant. >> big house, but with very little in it. like, we didn't have a couch to sit on. we didn't have a stove. just to give us a hot, warm meal, i had to cook on a space heater. it takes four hours for a hot dog to cook. >> did you feel like you had to be protective of your siblings? >> yes. >> and almost kind of like raise your siblings in a way? >> i basically was their mom. >> she is a very good loving sister.
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she has always been there to help us. that's just the truth. >> in a really weird twist of fate, we had interviewed michelle for a story that she helped deliver the baby. >> this is 7 pounds, 6 ounce marcus anthony knight. >> first, she let off a big scream, ow! and then, here comes the water, and then here comes, got to go get somebody, because there wasn't no stopping that baby coming out. >> tell me about your childhood. >> i had a lot of things that went on in my life that was very traumatic, like sexual abuse, emotional abuse. you name it, i went through it. >> she felt neglected. r.male relative sexually abused ghis, she s >> i got to the point where i was done with the abuse. i just needed a new outlook out of life. so the first thing i said, i'm more safer on the streets than
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i am living in my own home. so i basically ran away. >> ran away at that tender age. >> it was pretty cold during that time. i didn't really know where my next meal was going to come from or what was going to happen next. >> what did this 14-year-old child do? she slept under a park bench. then her home was a trash bin. >> i lived in a garbage can. i took a blanket from somebody's back porch, cuddled up with it. it was very cozy. >> she's 4'2", so she could crawl into the garbage bin and not be seen and protected from the elements. >> there was a bridge where i can hear cars going past. the vibrations just, you know, helped me be calm. ♪ my god is awesome >> come on, somebody lift your
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voice. ♪ awesome >> if you know he's been good -- >> when you were homeless, there was a baptist church. >> yes. i end up, like, going there just because i heard beautiful music and i was a little bit embarrassed because i didn't smell too pretty. i was, like, very dirty. and i stood in the back singing along with every hymn that they were singing. >> what was one of your favorite hymn songs? >> oh, my gosh. "god is in my heart and in my soul and he will never disappear." >> you needed to hold on to that, didn't you? >> yes. >> early morning, the hungry and homeless feeding is about to do its thing. >> they would have a meal service every day at 2:00. so i would go for lunch to the church. unfortunately, one of my family members had recognized me and called my dad. >> her father came and picked her up, and then she went back to high school.
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>> oh, my, it was horrible. going to school, i was always bullied. just got shoved into lockers, got shoved downstairs, got told i was ugly, that i was unimportant, that i didn't belong. >> did you have anybody you could reach out to? >> it was very hard to make friends. i was that girl that sit in the back of the class, the outcast. >> she was approached by a older boy at school. he kind of charmed her, they started having sex, and she realized she was pregnant. >> i wanted to be the best mom. i wanted to be better than my mom. >> what were those early years like for you and your son joey? >> it was difficult because i didn't have very much money. >> she goes to look for a job to better her life and leaves her child in the hands of her mother. >> her mother's boyfriend was
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drunk, and he grabbed joey by the leg and fractured his knee. michelle took joey to the hospital, and social services put joey in foster care. >> in her efforts to try to get her child back, she was on her way to a case management meeting. >> michelle was lost, so she walked over to a family dollar store to ask the clerk where this address was. ariel castro was there. overheard her and said, i know where that is, and i'll take you. >> you thought you could be okay with him. >> yeah, little did i know that it was gonna be a bad trip. depression. multiple symptoms hold you back. it's hard to get out of your driveway, and your own way. gotta change this. so your doctor tells you about trintellix, a prescription medicine for adults with depression. and you feel this overall...relief.
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and release some of my frustrations as well in a positive way. all i thought about was my son and how was he doing, if i was ever gonna see him again. that's the only thing that was going through my head. >> august 23, 2002. tell me about that day. >> oh, my. it was a really hot day. >> she is going to court because she's fighting desperately to get her little boy joey back. >> i was so super excited to get to the appointment, and then i couldn't find the place. i was trying so desperately to get ahold of them. i tried to call them on a pay phone, it didn't work. so i felt like there's no way i was going to make it. >> she was pretty desperate, so she walked over to a family dollar store to ask the clerk
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where this address was. >> and then my best friend's father comes into the store. >> so you recognized him. >> yes. >> she didn't know him personally, but when ariel castro approached her, she knew who he was. >> he'd get you to the point with the custody hearing. >> and he said, "i know where it's at. i can take you straight to it. it'll only take me five minutes." and i'm like, "okay, i'm gonna make it. this is going to happen." . so i got into his car. we started driving down a road. we started talking about how his daughter was at home. and i was like, "it would be super nice to see her." as we were going into the house, he says, oh, by the way, we have puppies. i got closer and closer to the door, and that's when he shoved me in the room and he said, you're not going to leave for a long time.
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and then he starts undressing himself. >> what is possibly going through your mind at this point? >> the first thing that i did is i dropped to the floor. begging him to let me go. begging him, saying, i need to get to my son. this can't happen. >> at that moment you knew this was something -- >> and he ripped up my son's picture right in front of me. the only picture i had. and said, you'll never see him. and that hurted so bad. the knife felt like it was going deeper and deeper into my chest. >> he claps his hand over her mouth and tells her, don't scream or i'll kill you. and then he proceeds to tie her up. then he masturbates in front of her.
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>> couldn't move. couldn't do anything. the extension cord was wrapped around my legs, then wrapped around my arms, and then wrapped around my neck. and then to muffle my sound of my scream, he had shoved a sock into my mouth. >> you go from upstairs to the basement. how long were you there in the basement? >> i couldn't tell what time of day it was because i was hooked to a pole in the middle of the floor with a motorcycle helmet on my head, so i couldn't move. >> he does bring her food occasionally, and he routinely rapes her in the basement, three, four times a day. >> he would often leave a radio on really, really loud so that even if she started screaming, you couldn't hear it anyway because it's just -- there was music playing. >> how were you able to
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withstand that kind of abuse? >> it was difficult. i had to go blank. any time he was doing anything to me, i had to put myself in a different place. >> ariel castro, once again he's prowling around looking for young women. how bold is that? >> how did that day begin? >> well, my mom had came to the door, and she came to give me a kiss and just tell me to have a good day. and i got up, got ready for work. >> amanda berry. it was the eve of her 17th birthday. she was working at burger king. >> i almost called off of work that day because the next day was my birthday. you know, what if? what if i would've called off that day? >> what kind of teenager were you then? >> i was pretty much a homebody. i stayed home a lot. did my schoolwork. >> what did you want to be when
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you grew up? >> i was into fashion. the shoes had to match the shirt, and the shoelaces had to match the outfit, you know? >> amanda had been walking home from burger king. >> suddenly, a red car pulls up. the driver, it's a familiar face. >> and he asked, do you need a ride home? i said yes. >> and amanda realized that this was ariel castro, she knew his daughter, they had all gone to school together. >> you know, it's a friend's dad. and he's like, well, she's at my house. would you like to go see her? and i said, sure, yeah, i haven't seen her in a while. >> and he takes her on this drive down seymour avenue. they pull up in front of a modest looking white house. >> so he started showing me around the house. and i never got back out. >> they got upstairs and he said, oh, angie's in the back, but my roommate's in here.
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>> it was, like, a little peephole that, like, the doorknob was supposed to go in. >> she saw a woman sitting on a bed, watching tv. which we now know was michelle knight. >> when he took me to the next bedroom, it was just really dark in there, and he um -- told me to pull down my pants. and from there i knew, like, this was not going to be good. when he took me to the basement, he taped my wrists and he taped my ankles, and then he put a helmet over my head. he just left me there. he shut the lights off, and i just started screaming and crying and -- somebody please help me. nobody came.
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>> so you're there in the dark, you're chained up. lord only knows what you had to be thinking. >> i was so scared that i was going to die. i didn't think that i was ever going to make it home. >> we called and called. it's not like her. she always answered her phone or called right back. so of course we knew something was wrong. so we immediately called the police. >> missing person cases are probably the most difficult cases that we work, and the reason is is because it really is a needle in a haystack. you're looking for that piece of evidence -- some unusual person walking down the street, an unusual vehicle. >> it's just hard to imagine who would do this. >> i wish somebody would come forward, because somebody out there knows something. it's just getting too hard. trust toyota to be here for you. now, every hybrid vehicle in toyota's lineup is available with 0% financing. with fewer stops for gas, toyota hybrids give you the confidence to go farther.
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separate bedrooms. >> this nondescript house played a huge role in the fact that it could help ariel castro in keeping a human prison going. >> it was all boarded up. the closet doors were nailed to the front windows. so everything was dark. >> the bolts that held those doors on the wall were sheared off, there was no way they could get at them. and those were even behind plexiglas. >> ariel castro is a really clever man. he had a house. he dressed well. he worked driving a school bus for the city. >> everybody knew ariel castro. everybody knew the school bus driver on the street. he would grill outside. on the fourth of july he would have fireworks. >> he was friendly, he was outgoing, he was a musician, he played in bands. ♪
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>> he was the greatest bass player. ariel would hear a song and play it like it was on the record. it was actually that simple for ariel. >> on the outside, he appeared very normal. he might be the last one you would suspect of wrongdoing. >> but his personality was weird. sometimes he would be joking around with you, and another minute he might be angry with the whole band. >> ariel had no family. we knew he had kids, but at the time he was living single. >> ariel castro had a horrible relationship with his first wife. he was extremely violent. rer downheirs, he was very intimidating. he was very scary. his voice was mean and deep and if you ever looked into his eyes, they were, like, black like he had no soul.
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>> amanda berry, when she first went missing, her mother was on the tv pleading for her return. >> my daughter should not be kept off the news like that. she ain't dead yet. but it's just so frustrating living daily. >> one day seemed like a week, so the week became months. and everyday we just passed out flyers. >> we had thousands of leads throughout ohio. we searched 200 homes, and we expanded the grid and expanded the search to the other side of the state. >> as remote as it is, there's still hope for the family. >> you know, every day is hard to see her not walk through that door or not say good morning. >> my hopes are in there. they're trying to stay as strong as can be. but with no answers and not a lead, not a clue, not nothing, that's what's hard because you don't know. >> the news comes at like 5:00, 5:30 now, so day after day i watched a lot of tv.
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>> the holidays are coming and going, and my baby ain't home. and i'm like -- that kept me going. and i said, you know what? i'm gonna make it home to you. as long as you fight, i'm going to fight. >> you're chained to a radiator, only have, what, about five feet? that was your world. can you describe what it was like? >> going to sleep at night, you wanted to toss onto your back, you couldn't do that, you would have to take the whole chain and move it to the front of your stomach so that you're not laying on the big lock. the mattress was old and nasty. it was just disgusting. and the bucket to use the bathroom, and that smelled horrible. >> amanda was not alone. just down the hall was michelle in another room, faring no better, because ariel castro controlled every action of these two young women. >> we were only allowed to take
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baths maybe once a week and then once every other week. it all depends on how he felt that day. >> he tried to act nice, but he's like, well, maybe you need to go take a shower. and -- i had to take a shower with him. >> he forced you take a shower with him. >> mm-hmm. he thought that, well, i gave her that. i deserve this. >> he used food as a weapon. amanda said a good day was when she got warm french fries. a bad day was when she got cold french fries. and a worse day was when she got nothing. >> food was, like, one of the things that he prolonged. like, i would go a week without food. and when i did get food, it wasn't very much. >> he was mercurial. most of the time he was cruel to them, but every now and then, he would do something special.
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>> so i asked for maybe a coloring book and something i can write in, a journal or something. >> i would write if i saw them on the news or how i was feeling that day. if i was angry or mad. >> so 3x what does that mean? >> that it had happened three times. >> she developed a little code that she would use. an "x" meant that she had been raped, she would mark 3x, 4x, some days it was 5x. >> i would always write these numbers at the top of the pages, because i felt like, you know, one day, maybe authorities will get to read and it he'll be punished for what he did. >> about a week after my sister was missing we had a phone call. "i have mandy." which nobody called her mandy, but who knew her, she wants to be with you. we're married and i'd have her home in a few days. >> the caller used amanda's own cell phone. >> ariel castro called her mother. i mean, how cruel is that to do
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that to somebody? >> what did you say to him? >> i said, please let me talk to her. let me hear her voice. just let me know she's there. let me know she's okay. silence. and then he hung up on me. >> and that was the last we heard of anything. >> police started trying to track that phone, and that was one of the first cases of trying to track a phone like that. >> at the time, the technology behind that, it was in the initial stages. >> the intelligence and the information we have indicated that amanda's phone was used in about a 30, 40-block area. we spent about a week around the clock in that area, hoping that this phone would be used again. >> how often did you think you were not going to survive? >> there was plenty of times when i just never knew, why is he keeping me here? like, i didn't know if one day we were going to be murdered or he wanted more girls in the house. like, what was he going to do to us? >> the community is frazzled. the last thing it needs is another disappearance. and that's exactly what would happen. just over a year ago,
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is gina dejesus makes everybody smile. she's enormously kind and sweet. >> gina's always been a shy little girl with a great sense of humor. soft spoken. >> outgoing. i like to go outside and hang out with my friends, go skating. >> loved dancing. ♪ >> "selena" was her favorite movie. and you couldn't tell her that she wasn't jennifer lopez in that video, because that was her thing as a 13, 14-year-old. >> what dreams did you have for yourself?
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>> i wanted to become a lawyer. >> why? >> i don't know. i think it was fun to win cases. >> she came from a very tight, loving family. even though her parents struggled for money, it was a really happy childhood. >> 14-year-old gina dejesus grew up on the rough-and-tumble west side of cleveland, and because of that she learned some hard lessons thanks to her mother. >> i told her, like, if somebody came up to you and tell you, you know, can you help me look for my dog? i lost my dog. don't stop, you continue to walk and you ignore the person. i told her to be aware of her surroundings at all times. >> despite all the lessons instilled in gina's brain, it still was no match for the serial predator. >> tell us about that day. you were with his daughter? >> yes, arlene castro.
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>> gina was walking home from school with a friend. >> we were talking about what we wanted to do because it was friday and then i was like, you could come over. >> and gina lent her bus money to make the telephone call. >> she asked her mom and her mom says no. she went the other way, and then i went the other way. >> the last thing she said to me was, you owe me 50 cents. >> right after that, ariel castro pulls up and offers gina a ride. >> he asks me if, you seen my daughter? i said "yeah, she's right around the corner." and he was like, "can you help me find her?" and i said sure. >> and this lure was the trick of ariel castro, using his own children as pawns.
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>> you felt there's nothing strange about this, right? >> no, i just knew that that was her father and my dad was friends with him. >> and next thing you know, he says, can you help me move a speaker at the house? and, sure, i guess, why not? and now she's in the house. >> he's like -- starts, like, touching me and stuff. i'm like, what are you doing? you could go to jail. and he switches up, like, well, you're going to go home now, but you can't go through the same door you came in. >> you have to leave through another door. i have a superstition. well, turns out to be the basement. >> and then once you were in the basement, what happened? >> he ended up chaining me up to the pole. nobody could hear me. the radio was too loud. >> gina's a creature of habit, and when gina didn't show up, we knew pretty quickly something wasn't right. >> tonight, family and friends fan out into the neighborhood,
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armed with donated flyers from kinkos, searching desperately for 14-year-old georgina dejesus. >> we're gonna keep going out there and putting as many flyers as we can. >> it did not become real until we seen ourselves on tv, on the local news. that's when it really hit me that she was -- something was really, really wrong, that she wasn't home. >> by air, on ground, every inch of cleveland's west side under the microscope. >> i went searching everywhere. dumpsters, schools, empty buildings. >> eerily, this is the exact spot where amanda berry disappeared a year ago this month. now two missing flyers of two missing girls mark this corner. >> same neighborhood, young girl, a few blocks away. you think you have a serial kidnapper or a serial killer. because how can you not think they're related? >> when did you see gina dejesus in the house? >> well, i heard a little bit of
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ruckus in the -- you know, downstairs when she first came. noise, like, you know, "get off of me," stuff like that. >> he would take my hair and, like, put it in his mouth. i don't know. i don't know why he did it, but it was gross. >> when was the first time that he took advantage of you? >> may 7th. >> what are you comfortable in sharing and telling us about that? >> i'm not comfortable. >> first thing that popped in my head is, "oh, my gosh, she's so young. she is so young." nobody ever deserves to be through something like that. >> when did you realize that there were others in the house, that you weren't the only one? >> as i kept watching the news, after a while, i was like, did you take amanda? >> 17-year-old amanda berry disappeared in april.
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>> then one time, he was like, t e'not on t taresir f lkirs.ha foths. yes. he would taunt me every single day -- your families don't care about you. ain't you glad i took you? >> he was very abusive to michelle, because michelle spoke up the most. >> i felt like he hated me the most because i was the one that stood my ground. >> she was defiant. she wasn't taking it, and she would fight back. >> he impregnated her several times. he would inflict pain on her and cause her to lose the fetus. >> five times you were pregnant. >> yes. and each time he aborted it. one was worser than the other.
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first he'll starve me. he'll give me soda all the time to prevent milk. he'll throw me down stairs. use blunt objects to abort it. pipes, bats. he would use anything to make it go away. one day he came in the room and i was sleeping and he jumped on my stomach. >> i'm sorry, michelle. >> and he's the reason why i can't have children now. and that's the most suckiest feeling ever. but he couldn't break me. and i feel, why let the devil control me? >> physical scars from the abuse was painful and eternal, but there's no doubt that the psychological abuse perpetrated on these women was equally painfully indelible. >> he played these terrible, terrible mind games.
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♪ ariel castro always would be fashionably late to every gig. when we mentioned travel to ariel, it was usually a quick, i can't do it. you guys need to play local or i'm out of the band. ♪ >> at belinda's nightclub, they used to have a little kitchen behind the bar and he would buy all the leftovers, three or four bags. i'm like, dude, you got the munchies? he said, no, no, i just got the food to take home, you know, because, you know, just to have it around. >> what they didn't know is he had three young women locked in his house at home, and he needed
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to get back to them and feed them. he was a complicated guy who presented one face to the world, and inside the house, he was just this diabolical, horrendous monster. >> on occasion, the girls were permitted to leave their bedrooms, but generally it was to perform chores around the house. >> there were so many just, like, tiny rules we had to live by. >> we got a little sliver of soap about, like, that thick, just to wash our bodies with. >> we had to use, like, a tiny drop of dish soap to wash, like, a full sink of dishes. >> we had to put the pan in the center on the stove. >> it couldn't be a little to the left, a little to the right. >> what was the relationship between the three of you? >> well, in the beginning we really didn't have, like, a relationship because he kept us divided. he wouldn't let us talk. >> he built this climate where they didn't trust each other. they didn't like each other.
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he made them think that they, each one of them was in this alone. >> in the beginning i was his favorite, and then he would get me, like, different restaurant foods and clothes. >> when you have very little, you can become jealous. >> yeah. >> what were you jealous of? >> it could be from getting more food, less food, different clothes. i mean, it was just simple things. but when you don't have anything, you're like, well, why don't i have that? i want that. >> he was very shrewd. he divided them by making them suspect each other. he would tell them lies about what one of them said about the other. >> sometimes he would just walk out, make a noise like he was going downstairs, and then creep up and check on them, you know, to make sure they weren't talking.
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and of course he would catch them and give them some punishment -- you know, no heat, no light, no radio, no tv, no food. >> one day he was on his motorcycle, and this was years after gina had gone missing, and he was driving along and he saw nancy, gina's mom, passing out flyers. he had gone to school with nancy. he knew her. >> he asked me, well, could i have one of those flyers? and i said sure, and i gave him the flyer and then he drove off. >> i just thought, like, how could you talk to my mom? knowing inside you're laughing at them. but i never understand that. >> ariel castro was a monster. he was a self-absorbed narcissist. he went to the vigils and stood with their families. >> we ask lord you bless all of our volunteers. >> how much of a monster are you when you could go to that girl's parents and say, "you know, i've been looking day and night. i can't find them."
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that's a hell of a game to play with somebody. >> ariel castro got drunk a lot, and the alcohol fueled his cruelty. >> he played these terrible, terrible mind games. >> he was like, you want to play russian roulette? i was like, why not? i'm not going home. i got nothing to lose. >> he took a gun out. he had always warned, but they hadn't seen it. and he opened it and he showed there was one bullet in it. >> who went first? >> he went first. so, then he pulls the trigger, and nothing happens. he gives me the gun, and i'm about to, like, pull the trigger. and he's like, let me pray for a minute. >> he knelt down and he said, you know, if you love me, you really won't pull this trigger, if you hate me, you will. and she's thinking, what is he thinking? of course i can't stand this guy. and she didn't even wait another second and she fired. >> i pull the trigger and nothing happened.
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>> not only did he have the physical restraints -- the chains, the doors, the padlocks -- but you also had psychological restraints that he used with them, including several attempts where he may have left the door open and was around the corner and tested their resolve. >> he was always there watching every move. it was like he knew everything, every move that we did. >> you don't think all those days we sat there, we didn't think about, how can we get out of this door? can we get out of that window? can we get out of the kitchen door while we're using the bathroom and he's maybe in the living room or something? but he had mirrors everywhere. >> i thought about putting rat poison in his beans, and then i thought about like spraying pinesol in his eyes, but he was always a step ahead of what i was doing. >> a few times some member of
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the family came in. you know, the house is tiny, and they could hear castro talking to his daughter. >> he would take the girls, and he would put them together in the basement, and he would chain them up and he would say, not a word. don't make a sound. >> the three of you were in the basement, and his daughter was right there. >> yeah, we would hear them laughing and talking. >> did you think about, if we yell, if she's right there, we're right there, possibly she could hear you? >> there was always a chance, what if he killed everybody? >> i think by then they were so beaten down about what could happen, and they froze. >> on another occasion, one of his daughters came to stay in the house with him and he had to think fast. what am i going to do with these three women? >> and he brings them outside and puts them in this van. >> he put them in wigs and
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sunglasses and hats to disguise them. >> he chained us up to the middle of his van. it was so hot, sticky. everything smelled like gasoline and oil. >> this was when we kind of started talking for the first time, me, gina, and michelle. so he took the van out just a little bit up the driveway. >> the key was in the van, and he was outside the van. so, she was like, i could run him over. >> what if we just put it in drive and press the gas? >> i'm sure that you were thinking, maybe this is our chance. >> mm-hmm. >> what happened? >> that close to freedom, but we were still too scared. he was very scary. >> amanda regretted not trying it. and then it was several more years before another chance came along. >> it was a dark and hopeless existence in that house until one day everything changed when amanda announced she was going to have a baby. >> and he was going to allow her to keep that baby. when migraine strikes,
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when did you realize that that there were others in the house, that you weren't the only one? >> seven years ago -- >> eight years ago -- >> nine years. >> today marks teen years since amanda went missing. >> when i would see them on tv, it kept me going. i said you know what? i'm going to make it home to you. >> she was always fighting and she was never going to give up on me. >> i've been on this story since it first broke, and i'm still learning so much from these amazing, incredible women. the horror, and the hope. >> ariel castro was a monster. >> he went to the vigils. >> it's killing me. >> and stood with their families. >> three of you were in the basement, and his daughter was right there.
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did you think about, if we yell, possibly somebody could hear you? >> his car is gone. should i chance it? if i'm going to do it, i need to do it now. >> out comes amanda. whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. >> three women that vanished have been found alive. >> ran up and jumped in their arms. i said, never let me go. >> she was thin, pale. i told her, we have been looking for you for a long time. >> it's real. we're going home. >> it gets harder and harder for us. i thought it would get easy, but it doesn't. my daughter is out there somewhere. somebody knows something. >> i try to keep those thoughts,
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but after so long, your wishes fade away. >> she's sitting there crying. a lot of times i'm crying behind the camera for her. you detach somewhat through the viewfinder, but how can you help but feel for a mom sitting there crying as hard as she did about her, about her daughter? >> its just getting harder and harder. the holidays are coming and going, and my baby ain't home. >> what was the biggest part of you that you felt he took from you that you lost? >> living life as a normal teenage girl. having birthdays or going to a prom. having the fun times as just a regular teenager. >> they poured their heart out on paper, in diaries, in drawings. >> this one was a christmas card that i did for my son. >> this was their therapy.
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>> when did you get this and start drawing the word hope? >> i got that when he went to a yard sale. i thought it was so random. >> what did it mean to you? >> like, it would give me hope to come home one day. >> those three years was really tough on my mom. >> is she out there? is she laying somewhere? >> especially when she went to "the montel williams show" with sylvia brown. >> i would watch her every time she was on montel and i'd say, i wish my mom would go on there, and then she could tell my mom that i was alive and that i'm okay. >> the psychic says, i'm sorry. >> i just hate this. she's not alive, honey. >> i just broke down crying because you couldn't believe she said that. crying sthat hurt even w >> and she just gave up hope.
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and the huge tragedy is that she would die before amanda would be freed. and i think everyone knew that really she died of heartbreak. >> for three years louwanna miller fought hard to find amanda. >> i think that was the hardest part of being in there. like, she was always fighting and she was never gonna give up on me, and for her to get sick and i couldn't be there with her, i couldn't help her when she was sick. >> you asked him to hug you. >> i was just really sad, and i started talking to him and he's like, everything's going to be okay, everything's going to turn out all right. and so i asked him for a hug and we hugged. >> there had to be a part of you that was saying, what in the world? >> i needed, like, a human caring touch instead of everything that he always did,
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which was not caring. >> it was amanda's 20th birthday when she gets an unexpected gift of hope. she announces she's pregnant. >> it's christmas morning 2006, and amanda goes into labor, and she is terrified. she doesn't know how she's going to do this. >> he got this baby pool because he didn't want, you know, a mess on the bed. and he brought michelle in the room. >> he says, if this child dies, i will kill you. >> michelle was kind of just talking to me, like, you know, relax, calm down. you're okay. >> i cried so much. i'm not a medical, you know, expert. >> and he sat in the rocking chair right there just reading this book about, like, birth and stuff. >> amanda gave birth to this child in the room where she had
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been chained. and she picked out a name, jocelyn. >> what was it like for you, amanda, when you looked in her eyes for the first time? >> it was amazing because she was so quiet, and she was just the most beautiful thing. >> you hear of rape victims who have a child. how do you just wrap your mind around it and make it work? >> this is his kid. you know, how do i feel about that? and she resembled him a lot, and i would look at her, and i just felt like she's mine. she's mine. >> does she see the chains on you? >> yeah. so, he starts to call them bracelets.
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and she was about , almost 3 years old, and he finally took the chains off of me, and that was because of jocelyn. >> what was her relationship like with her father? >> normal. i mean, she loved him, and he loved her. >> did you ever worry that he was going to harm her? >> i was. would he touch her? would he ever think about touching her? because, you know, he had his problems. >> but ultimately he never did anything. he never laid a hand on jocelyn. >> surprisingly, he bonded with this child. they had a connection that no one expected. >> and when she was about 2, he started taking her outside, and he would take her to the park. she would play on the swings and the slides. >> she had never been to parks before and seen little kids like herself. >> and i know one of the best times when you looked out and you saw the sunlight on her face
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for the first time. >> it was the most beautifulest thing. i just felt like, that's -- that's where she should always be. >> i seen him walking the baby up and down the street. he's spoiling this kid rotten. >> the strangest thing for us at a practice, ariel comes in with this little girl. she looked latina. i was like, "who'd you steal this girl from?" and you know, ariel just looks over, says, oh, this is my girlfriend's daughter. >> he was having daddy-daughter >> when jocelyn is 5 and she's kindergarten age, amanda sets up their room with a little desk for jocelyn, and she gets castro to get workbooks and school supplies. >> she created a classroom out
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of nothing in the bedroom. she put bright cloth over the boarded-up window. >> it had toys. it had a small easel with lessons on it. pages from coloring books displayed. >> how did you come up with that? >> it's a mother's instinct. i just wanted her to have a normal life, and that's -- that's normal. >> what she was able to do in that environment, i don't know that anybody else could have done that. >> none of the three women wanted to do anything to upset jocelyn, you know? and so she brought joy to them. >> it was like, fun, because when i was playing with jocelyn, jocelyn made me forget everything. >> can you imagine that the baby was born on christmas day and it turned out to be the gift that got them out of the house. >> cleveland 911. >> this broad is trying to break out the [ bleep ] house next door to me. from at&t here. i'm back and while most stores are open, i'm working from home and here to help.
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seven years ago tonight -- >> it was eight years ago tonight -- >> it's been nine years that amanda berry -- >> gina dejesus disappeared. >> today marks ten years since cleveland teenager amanda berry disappeared. she was 16 years old. >> those who knew amanda berry gathered to remember. >> gina's family has been gathering at this corner. >> the families were always optimistic. >> i'm hoping she's out there somewhere. i mean, i don't care. just come home. >> they are still waiting and still hoping. >> after a while we thought these girls will never be found.
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they're dead. they're gone. >> fbi agents and police are searching for the remains of a missing teen, amanda berry. >> a tip from a prison inmate launched today's search. >> using a cadaver dog, teams identiary vae at was re lesth three blocks ay. is vastating. all osyes, all those tips, >> it's a warm spring day, and the source of hope for escape would come from the most unexpected place, 6-year-old jocelyn. >> jocelyn goes downstairs and then she runs back up and she says, i don't find daddy. daddy's nowhere around. >> and she's like, mom, daddy's car is gone. my heart immediately started pounding. should i -- should i chance it? if i'm going to do it, i need to do it now.
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>> this was the one time that your room was not locked. >> never before in ten years has that happened. >> she kind of crept down the stairs, and she had never seen the front door open. >> there was one more door that she need to get through, and she said her heart was racing. >> i'm like, okay, now i just got to fly out this front screen door and i'm free, and that didn't happen. >> and it's padlocked, and she pushes it open enough so that she can get her arm out. >> so i'm just, like, waving my arm and i'm like, somebody, please. please, help me. i'm amanda berry. >> i'm hearing all of this. i -- i turn to michelle. i'm like, we could run. we could do this. but then once michelle gets pumped. i'm like, no -- i talked her out of it. >> why'd you talk her out of it? >> i thought that -- that amanda got caught and that he was hitting her. >> i thought they were fighting. so i was scared. so i turned up my radio so i couldn't hear the pain. i couldn't hear her suffer.
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>> charles ramsey is ariel castro's neighbor, sitting on his porch, eating a big mac, and hears this noise. >> boom, boom, boom, boom, boom! "what the hell is that?" >> he goes next door to see what's happening. >> she said, "get me out of this house." how do we say this? i destroyed ariel's property getting her out of the house. >> he kind of, like, started like trying to pull on the door, but he -- he couldn't get it open either, and so he kind of kicks it. >> kicked the [ bleep ] out of it. >> there you go, finish kicking it out. >> out comes amanda sbmt o, and comes a little girl. whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. this child has been screaming, "i want my daddy." what did we do? right, call the police. >> help me. i'm amanda berry. i've been kidnapped, and i've been missing for ten years, and i'm -- i'm here. i'm free now. >> okay. talk to the police when they get there. >> no, i need them now before he gets back. >> we're going to send them as soon as we get a car open.
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>> i'm amanda berry. i've been on the news. >> were you still frightened that he may show up at any time? >> i was terrified. and just because there's people on the street doesn't mean that he wouldn't hurt me. >> 5:52 p.m., we get a call for a code one assignment. the highest priority you can get. >> female says her name is amanda berry, and that she had been kidnapped ten years ago. >> i immediately looked at my partner. is this for real? >> we threw the lights and sirens on, and we started heading southbound. >> 2210 seymour. >> we're heading over. >> we pulled onto seymour, this female holding the child started walking out towards us. it was amanda, just a little bit older. just looked the same as the missing person flyers. >> this might be for real. >> only way you can describe it is mind-blowing.
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>> then she gives us -- well, there's two more girls in the house. >> there might be others in the house. >> when i get to the door, i try to pull it open, and i can tell it's been chained shut from the inside. so i try to boot it a few times. >> finally the whole screen door and everything came off. we all rushed into the home. >> and then they start walking upstairs, and i'm like, oh, we're next. he's coming for us, so close the door. >> i had my gun out and i started walking up to steps slowly, and i started screaming, cleveland police, cleveland police. >> i hear noises in the hallway. police, police. i push my head out. >> there was a bedroom door open with a light on and i heard some scuffling. >> i see a badge. so i book, in my underwears and
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t-shirt, ran up and jumped in their arms and said, never let me go. >> i thought she was a child because that's -- because she was so tiny. my name is michelle knight. i've been here for 12 years. you saved us. >> never let me go. >> i said, honey, you're okay now. you're safe. and she kind of jumped out of officer espada's arms and then jumped up into mine. >> it was just an amazing feeling. >> it took me a while to come out my room because i didn't believe that they were cops. i thought maybe they were people in costumes. because i was shocked. >> then all of a sudden i see another person walking out. i knew who it was. she was thin, pale.
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but i needed confirmation. so i asked her her name. she told me her name was georgina dejesus. and then i told her, we've been looking for you for a long time. >> when i was telling them my name, they looked like they've seen a ghost or something. like, they couldn't, like, believe it or anything. like, their face completely dropped. >> it was just like getting smacked in the face. like, "holy cow, she's still alive. you know, after all these years." so -- >> we found them. we found them. >> it was just an amazing feeling. the first thing that i did is i dropped to the ground. i didn't care how dirty it was.
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i kissed that ground. i kissed that ground and thanked god that he helped us get out of there. >> what was the moment when you knew you were finally safe? >> the ambulance. amanda reaches out, her daughter reaches out. everybody is like reaching out towards each other, and it was like, it's real. we're going home. >> when you saw them, you're like, now we're free. >> once i saw that, i'm, like, you know, this -- this is it. i think we're free now. [ cheers and applause ] >> cleveland police being greeted by applause. they helped bring gina and amanda home to their families. >> but cops have a job to do, and they need to do it quickly, and that's to find their guy, ariel castro. >> michelle grabbed a picture off of a refrigerator. she goes, "that's the guy right
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says her name is amanda berry. >> adam 23 radio. we found them. we found them. >> three women that vanished have been found alive. >> it was controlled chaos. >> back up! >> we secured the scene. we put yellow tape up. we pretty much blocked the whole street of seymour. >> the street was flooded with patrol officers. there were neighborhood residents coming to the scene. [ cheers and applause ] >> excitement in the air, the buzz in the air. you had people on their porch. >> they were emotional. crying. this was happy cries because these girls were found. they were alive. >> i was actually three blocks away. and i saw one of the fbi agents. and i ran to him. and i just asked him, just tell me if it's her. and he told me yes. >> we hugged and cried. and i just remember her saying, "is it true?" you know, being able to tell her
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yes, it is, that i saw her, that was one of those moments that i say was an unforgettable and best moment of my career. >> the manhunt is on. but it's not a long one because in short order police are able to find ariel castro, who's behind the wheel of his mazda miata. >> as we proceed down clark avenue, here comes a blue convertible. and they stopped at the stop sign. and i made eye contact with ariel, the driver. and he proceeded to make a right-hand turn and into the mcdonald's. >> the police pulled him over in his car, and castro didn't say a word, nothing. >> we patted him down for weapons. handcuffed him and put him in the back of the patrol car. and i read him his miranda. i told him he's held at this point under suspicion of kidnapping. i said, do you wish to make any statements at this time? and he said, nope. >> i told the girls that we got the suspect in kcustody and the were all like, oh, thank god. you could see the relief in
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their eyes. >> right now those three women are here at metrohealth medical center being tended to by doctors and also being reunited with family members. >> you get to the hospital and you get to see your family. >> i'm hugging everybody. and then the first thing i pulled out was this right here, and i showed my mom. >> she pulls out this flyer. and it's a flyer of her. and she says, i've been holding it for years. and then she said, i smell it sometimes because my mother was holding this flyer. >> it was like a dream. i needed somebody to wake me up. thank you, lord. you brought my baby back home. >> i remember amanda berry and her sister hugged each other so, so, so tight. >> she was just really skinny and short hair. but she was still beautiful. she had the biggest smile that she always had. >> what was it like when you introduced your daughter to them? >> she was just like, oh, hi, i
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heard about you. you know, and she gave them a hug, like she knew them forever. >> jocelyn was full of life. she was running back and forth. she's telling me jokes. "you know why the chicken crossed the road?" i said, "i don't know." she goes, "so it gets to the other side." and she starts cracking up. >> for ten years, to just want to find them and to go there and to see them standing there, i mean, it really was a miracle. >> we noticed right away that no one's coming for michelle. >> it breaks your heart. sorry. after all this time. >> michelle really is not in good shape and she needs special medical care. >> you were in the worst condition. >> they couldn't find out why i was bleeding. why i was having stomach issues.
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but they did different tests and they told me, you only got two days to live. it's been too long and the antibiotics are not working on you. >> what were you thinking after going through all that you did, to be safe in a hospital, and now to be told you have two days to live? >> it was really difficult. but i didn't let that get me down. i really didn't. i was singing. i was dancing. i was trying to make the best of the life that i had left. they put me on 14 different medications before i was actually better. >> the fbi were doing the search of the house. >> the evidence response team on hand right now going through that home here on seymour. >> there was a letter in the as
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the kitchen counter that was written by ariel castro in 2004. just a couple of days after gina's kidnapping. >> it was kind of like a "if i get caught" letter. >> if you find this, this is why i did it. >> he had been abused as a child. he had a sexual addiction. he didn't mean to do this. >> police did have in their possession a confession written by ariel castro. but they wanted to hear it from the perpetrator himself. >> the bottom line is that these girls, i treated them well.
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everything points to ariel. we need to talk to ariel. >> did you get any sleep? >> yeah. >> did you? okay. >> police conducted their interrogation in a little bit of a different way with ariel castro. >> instead of going question, answer, question, answer, i thought that we should meld it down into paragraphs. >> then those statements were taken to ariel castro, who would actually, for lack of a better term, fact-check those statements. and this is where it seems that ariel had a tremendous sense of arrogance and self-righteousness. >> no, it wasn't by force. >> what type of sex was it? >> consensual. >> he was clearly minimizing everything we talked about. instead of using words like kidnapping, he would say "i abducted," or "we had consensual sex." >> during those nine years i
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kept dejesus locked up in my house, i used chains, padlocks -- >> this only happened for a short period of time. then i got comfortable and took the chains off. >> okay. >> and that's on all three. >> he tried to explain that he gave them a better life in the situation than they would have had otherwise. they lived there as one big happy family. >> bottom line was that these girls, you know, i treated them well. the sex part is the biggest part about it and, you know, i didn't force myself on them. >> okay. >> you know, i just had my way of, you know, convincing them. >> convincing them to have sex with you? okay. >> michelle's telling us about these terminations of pregnancies. >> he did confirm a lot of the things that michelle had said. however, once again, minimizing his involvement, saying things like, we decided that the baby should be aborted. >> knight and i. it's not just you -- thought the best way to terminate the pregnancy would be through a diet of tea only. >> now we have an acknowledgement of termination
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of the pregnancy. we could rely on that to bring the aggravated murder charge. >> amanda's journals were instrumental in this case. she basically wrote a game plan of what had happened to her the entire time she was there. it would just be something as simple, like, he moved me downstairs today. well, that movement constituted another kidnapping. he was charged with 977 counts, including aggravated murder, rape, and kidnapping. >> he did everyone a favor, it seems, by agreeing to a plea deal. and he was sentenced to life in prison plus 1,000 years. >> court is in session. please be seated. >> ariel castro stood up in court. here is this guy who was charading, acting like the perfect neighbor, school bus driver. now he's in chains, and he was so contradictory.
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>> i am not a violent predator, i'm not a monster, i'm a normal person. these allegations about being forceful on them, that is totally wrong because there was times that they would even ask me for sex. >> i know. i couldn't believe that he would say that. i mean, do you think i would be there for ten years if i had a chance to go home? no. that's why you had chains on me. >> god as my witness, i never beat these women like they're trying to say that i did. i never tortured them. >> he was a mean, no good s.o.b. who had ten years to have a moment of clarity or a moment of remorse. >> i am truly sorry to the dejesus family, amanda, and michelle. you guys know all the harmony that went on in that home. >> michelle is the only one that came to court to speak. she is the only one that had the
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courage. >> you took 11 years of my life away. and i have got it back. i spent 11 years in hell. now your hell is just beginning. i will overcome all this that happened, but you will face hell for eternity. from this moment on, i will not let you define me or affect who i am. >> for as little as she is, she's a big girl, man. i don't know how she did it. i don't know how she did it. >> where did you find the strength to do that? >> i had to show him that he no longer has control over me, that he doesn't define who i am. i define who i am by everything i do in life. >> for ten miserable years, they survived. but ariel castro lasted just one month and one day in prison
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before apparently taking his own life. >> it was a matter of a couple of weeks, and then he kills himself. are you kidding me? he was a coward, is what he was. >> i wish he would have not killed himself, because i wanted him to suffer like we did. i think he took the easy way out. >> you said you could never forgive him. do you still feel that way? >> i absolutely do feel that way. because i never got to see my mom again. and i'll never, ever, ever, ever forget about that. >> i chose to forgive him, because i didn't want the emotional chain of that situation. i didn't want it to hold me back or control my life anymore, so i had to break free. >> talk about resilience. wow. it's really been quite impressive about how you can heal and move on.
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some balloons and that was a good moment for the town. that was a good moment for the victims. >> first thing that i thought is they're taking a horrible situation and turning it into good. >> what is your relationship with gina and amanda to this day? what is it like? >> i decided to separate from them because, we are all going through difficult times, and when we see each other it kind of brings back memories. >> we're a part of this because of what he did to us, but that doesn't mean that we were friends before or we have to be friends after. >> what these young women decided to do was just keep a low profile. they needed to heal. so, we didn't know a whole lot about them except for releasing books about the experience. >> these women have just overcome so much. behind the scenes, do they have
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struggles like you and i? without a doubt. but the fact is they get up every day, they put a smile on, they're thankful. it's definitely life changing. >> i was gone for nine years. i had to learn iphones, snapchat. >> maybe you can teach me snapchat, because i still don't get it. i still don't understand it. >> oh, i'll teach you. >> okay. >> once she came home, she was adamant about, i need to do school. i didn't finish school. that's the first thing i need to get out of the way. >> in 2015, gina and amanda graduated from high school. they got a huge standing ovation and cheers from the people at the graduation, and it was a wonderful day for them. >> it's like she's determined to do things that was taken away from her from that time. >> she didn't get to have a quinceanera. so her godmother decided to throw this big party. she had the big white dress. she looked like a princess.
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>> gina, obviously, with her family, they have surrounded her with love and protected her. amanda has jocelyn, which is really huge. >> your precious daughter. she's a teenager. >> listen, yeah. well, she thinks she's a teenager. she's 12. let's keep -- she's 12. >> okay, okay. i don't want to rush it, all right. >> yes, let's not rush it. >> all right, all right. >> yeah. >> so how is she? >> she's happy. she's vivacious. she's doing great. she's in middle school now. >> jocelyn is more special than i could even use words to describe. i always describe her as wise beyond her years. >> were you able to explain the situation, the chains? >> not so much about the rapes and stuff like that, but i did tell her. you know, i used to word kidnapping because i wanted her
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to know what that was. i just explained to her, like, your dad was sick in the mind. i just never want her to feel that she's not here for a special reason. she's here because she's special, and i just want her to know that. >> it's a beautiful thing. i couldn't even imagine what they went through, and then you run into them at a party or whatever, and they're living life, loving life, like nothing had never happened. >> michelle we worried about the most because she had no support, nothing. >> oh, my. when i first arrived to the horse therapy it was super amazing. that horse helped me with so
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much. it showed me something that no other human's ever shown me, respect. and love. >> but now she has this big family of friends that she created. >> okay, so now you bowl. >> i love my friends that i have. i love my chosen family. >> she's someone that i really look up to. she's got depth. she's so intelligent. such great feelings. >> whew! >> i got my adopted dad, which his name is jim. he's such a sweetheart. he's the one that showed me that men are not all the same. that there are the nice ones out there. when we first met, we were at karaoke. >> she started singing this particular song. ♪ you held me down but i got up ♪ >> she's basically saying no matter what the world should
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know that she's doing fine, so now whenever we karaoke, that's what i want to hear. ♪ and you're going to hear me roar ♪ >> tell us about miguel. >> oh, my gosh. he is the love of my life. he's my other half. he showed me that life doesn't have to be horrible and you don't have to be alone. >> that must feel great for you. >> yes. >> she's like a big bomb in a small package. >> when i first came out of the house, i didn't love was, what a tender all i knew was abuse. >> huge personality. very, very intelligent. she's got her own light that she walks in. >> michelle, she's found happiness and joy. she's married. >> she looked beautiful that day. i don't know what came over me. i couldn't hold it in. i had tears in my eyes.
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>> you legally changed your name to lily rose lee. why'd you do that? >> because i wanted a new beginning to my new journey of life. >> we have a check for lily's ray of hope for $1,500 because that many people want to support. >> it's going to go to a lot of great women and young girls that went through domestic violence, human trafficking, and child abuse. >> these three women, moving on with their lives, starting foundations, and helping other people. >> this is really ultimately the plans for the building, and we're really excited because it's going to be a beautiful building once it's completed. >> our foundation's name is the cleveland family center for missing children and adults. >> this is our office space. >> basically we work with the families to help them navigate the media, to help to go to the police station. >> gina gives an insight to the missing kids world that books and a lot of stuff can't teach
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you. >> my center is locad ght next door to wheir yw w that is to put it on that street? >> i just want to turn the neighborhood. i want to turn it to, like, positive, and i want to give back, so -- >> there's such goodwill for these survivors that there's a lot of possibilities about what they could do in the future. >> i'm working with a local news station. they approached me, and they said we would love if you would do a segment with us for missing children, adults in our area. i'm amanda berry. and i've made it my personal mission to help police find missing people. i want to do something that means something to me. i'm just a regular person, and i just -- i want to make the world a better place. >> proud of you. >> tha you.ou'vspiratn toed g me. tseom a our heroes. they'r they're survivors. >> five years ago, i felt like i was always gonna be scared, like i would never want to come
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out of the house. now i'm finding my own voice. >> you once wrote, always believe in hope, even through the hardest times. how are you able to do that? >> i always like to be positive, and i just don't like negativity. so always hope for the best. >> you can overcome all obstacles that stand in your way. don't let the darkness control your light in your life. ♪ you're an overcomer ♪ stay in the fight until the final round ♪ ♪ you're n going und knigh mht be down feeling like it's hopeless ♪ >> and those amazing women have overcome so much. if you want to know more about amanda, gina, and michelle, and the work they're doing now, you
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