jukes hi there. welcome to our daily program. we're asking experts your questions every day at 3:00 to get answers for you in real time. we have a high powered lineup of guests. we'll talk to the oakland mayor about what's happening in her city and the news almeida county is moving into the tier.er.er.e. er we'll begin with stunning new head lynx on the coronavirus. a nevada man has become the very first confirmed case of covid re-infection in the u.s. what does that mean in terms of transmission, reopening and the

vaccine? joining us to explore this and other dwolts, is dr. chin hong. thanks for joining us. >> my pleasure. thanks for having me on. >> this is a worrisome idea, that you can get infected, recover, and get re-infected. >> he's 25 years old. had no other medical history. got infected like many people did in march. one to two months later when he visited some relatives, people were sick. help got reinfected again. they did genetic analyses on both of them and they were both dirchlts. and he was sicker the second time around. >> sicker the second time around. all right. do we know if the second time around it was the same strain or a different strain? >> we think that it was very slightly different but not different enough so that his

existing immunity wouldn't have been effective if it were in place. the most like reply explanation is that his immunity roy ned. n. that comes back to what scientist say it's really unpredictable how long the immunity would last. >> this week we've been hearing president trump saying, hey, i think i am immune now i am immune now. what would doctors have to say about that? >> i think the case in nevada with this young guy, i would be very afraid to go against the world and think that i'm immune once i have covid. again, you can get it again. it may be variable in different people how long immunity lasts but we can't tell. we don't have the tests to tell, have people check over and over again to see if they have

immunity. the second thing is, you can get sicker the second time around. >> what does this mean terms of a vaccine and what does it mean in terms of how we individually -- as individuals shy say, should act? >> it doesn't mean vaccines won't work. i think most people think it's going to be more durable than natural infection. we have other cases in infectious disease where that's true. for example, human papillomavirus, you can get it over and over again but the vaccine has more than 95% effica efficacy. similarly with covid-19 we think the vaccine will be better than natural exposure. >> we have a major story here. setback in the race for a vaccine. several trials have been paused. johnson & johnson yesterday and eli lilly today. >> the johnson-and-johnson vaccine, we don't have many

details but it wasn't like a halt. the pause is like, you press pause on a vcr -- i guess i'm dating myself here, on your tv, like you press stop. so it means that there was some illness which needs to be investigated. hopefully there will be a placebo group. with 60,000 people somebody's bound to get sakt some point and you want to be cautious and make sure it's not linked to the vaccine. >> right. do they suggest there could be a further delay to a vaccine being approved? >> yeah. so regardless of whether or not it's due to the vaccine, the point is when you study large numbers of people, people are going to -- vaccine trials are going to stop and vechlgt there's no way we will be able to have a vaccine by the end of the year like many people thought but i think in the

springtime. we have a lot of great candidates on the block. >> fingers crossed. moving into the orange tier today santa clara will reopen limited capacity indoor dining and other things, mall gatherings are possible now and movie theaters if you want. any tips for people? >> yeah. so i would say this is a crude measure like whether or not something is allowed or not but it is very different if gow to a hole in the wall indoor dining versus like a big sort of way house industrial building dining because of ventilation. so not all dine is created equal. i'm all for dining but i still feel kind of nervous about it. if somebody really wanted me to go put my nickel down, it would be in sort of a big building with great ventilation. >> we want the great

ventilation. sfkts is embracing the ban concessi concessions. they say this means we can't make enough money to operate. how is this different than indoor dining? is it? is this officially different? >> i mean, it might be a little bit different. the same as in airlines. the rows are not equally spaced apartment it depends what the configuration is in the theater. most theaters, however, are very well ventilated. it's very modern and general. the air conditioning is great. the air exchange is generally great. again, if somebody's like on the row behind you and in front of you, it's dprirchtd dining. regardless, i feel i'm still going on the like an outdoor dining person. it's kind of european, after all. >> it is nice off get used to it, i have to say. hey, yesterday on the show we

had dr. j. they favor reopening for people who are at lower risk while increasing protect for people who are more vulnerable. what do you think about that? >> i think there are four words that have been describing this ideology. bad science and seyi ideology. i think it realliy realliy realy on seasons. herd immunity has been talked about for a long time. that hasn't worked without a loss of life. it depends on how much society is willing to lose life. people might have long-term consequences of covid like the long haulers, even if you get a mild infection, so i'm very

nervous about this idea of reopening willy-nilly. ultimately define who vulnerable is. i'm a little nervous about all that nobody's advocating full lock county anymore. so nobody is, anyway. so again, i think the rational approach in california like we've been doing is not based on this ideology. we've been pretty successful. >> uh-huh dr., we only have less than a minute but i want to address this point which a facebook viewer is bringing up. brian says this nevada reinfection case is getting report as if it's knew. it's several months old. asking the media to be honest about it. can you explain why? it could take several months before it is a confirmed case that is ready to be reported. >> yeah. that's a great point from brian. i think the difference within why he's reaching attention now

is because it's been peer reviewed. people don't want to say infection without having and look at all the scientific evidence. this is the difference between sort of conspiracy and confirmed science. so it's a constructive case for all of us. >> drall right, doctor. great talk with you. >> thank you. >> we're going to take a short break. when we return, the

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and welcome back. almeida county joined santa clair county into moving into a

less restrictsive reopenling tier. they're both in orange, meaning the numbers are better. in oakland, almeida county, mayor live ya shaft. good to see you. >> hello everyone who has sacrificed so much to get us into the orange tier. it is an accomplishments of you to following directions to socially distance, wear a mask and be kaushts about staying indoors with different people. i don't think we're going to see huge changes right away. almeida county taking a cautious approach. they plan to announce some just activities that will be allowed but probably not t starting until the week of october 26. >> that is what we heard. we heard at that point, indoor dining, indoor worship, indoor movie theaters can be open to a limited kpasz and also some

indoor malls can go up to 50%. i know your county has been cautious but can you tell us about oakland what's opening, playgrounds or not activities? >> well, i am hope thafl playgrounds -- as a parent we know that people are going crazy inside. so to get the kids outside, i'm so glad that people will start to be able to worship again. i think faith is a very important part of our oakland soul. so that's exciting. then restaurants. we love eating in oakland. and as we're worried that the weather is going to start to cool off, those outdoor options that we've created might not be so attractive once that temperature dips down, so i think it is just in the nick of time that we're going to be able to adjust as both the temperature and our health concerns are adjusting as well. >> no. the timing is certainly welcome.

a viewer wants to know what would it take to open schools all the way. i recognize that's a decision made by oakland unified but it looks like in your city school will not be in person this whole year -- this smelser, i should say, sfliegt. >> well, let's focus on public schools. also, let's be ready for some tier read opening. right now, the focus is only on elementary school students well also know that we have special need students that we might want to provider dies for in-person instruction. i think everybody wants to get back to school but they want to be sure that it is safe. we certainly will be work we will our labor partners to be sure that every teacher, every staff person feels absolutely safe in their health before school gets reopened. that's going to be some work. the existing contract is in place till the end of this calendar year. >> yeah. >> typically public school

students should not expect to see a return to school until the new year but i certainly am committed to doing everything within my power to get our teachers that sense of safety that they deserve so we can see schools renope a way that's safe and responsible. >> in the meantime, how are you doing in terms of your efforts to ensure that a hundred percent of oakland public school students have laptops and wi-fi. are you there yet? >> we're getting there. this thursday i'm going to be in east oakland at a school, and this is for kids that got loaner computers, they are going to be turning those in for permanent oakland undivided laptop that will be theirs to keep and to stay in the their homes so that they're not only tools for distance learning but really for the whole family to be connected to life saving resource and information. so we have already distributed about half of those 25,000

oakland undivided laptops. we're going to keep it going. we're going to cross the halfway mark on thursday. >> i want to ask you about slow streets. if you can talk a little bit about the progress to date and also i understand you just kicked into a new phase yesterday, right? >> we did well officially announced kind of slow streaks 2.0. it was quite a celebration. olson was one of 189 cities that competed for a national grant to put public art and in oakland it's even including a little kind of community garden as part of this traffic installation, so only in oakland do we guarden on our traffic calming devices and put like fantastic public arpt in there as well. and it's really part of us creating a process where we're

listening to what community wants, and we are hearing a lot of people like the slow street but they don't want it to look like a construction zone so these planter boxes and decorative signs and barriers are going to be much more permanent and also responsive to what that particular neighborhood pants on o their street. >> uh-huh. but you see the impact, right? you see people walking, running, jogging. you see people dining. you see that kind of impact already. >> right. but think how much our city is oumd by roads. there's time for cars to share them more with people. people have wanted to be outdoors. they've needed to be together in a distanced and safe way. the slow streets have been like a lifeline for so many of our families and communities, and a lot of those communities are saying we want to keep these once covid is done, and so we are working with those

communities. we're also working on developing a bop-up program for communities that want them for a temporary period of time. you don't always think of bureaucrats as creative nimble people, particularly not traffic engineers, but not so in oakland. our traffic department has been so creative, so nimble and so responsive to community, conversation, and i just cant cannot thank them enough. >> i never held those stereotypes of engineers. i know they got to be flexible. i want to ask, it's three weeks until election day. you're heavily involved in voter education. i think you're holding a town hall on thursday with the league of women voters. want to tell us about that? >> that's right. i know everyone's so focused on the president but there are a bunch of important measures both statewide, county, and oakland specific, so this thursday, bring your voter guide, your

ballot and you will hear a very unbiased presentation of those measures by the league of women voters. i'm going to chime in and add oakland specific impact. not everybody knows that if prop 15 passes, that will bring an additional $64 million in oakland to fix the potholes, to increase library programs. it's important that oaklanders know that these state-wide measures have very local consequences. please join, it's very interactive, too. >> got it. we need to update our graphic but it's every other thursday now. but this thursday is happening. good to see you. thank you so much. >> thank you. have a good one. >> we're going to take a short break, folks. when we return we'll talk to

all this week, abc 7 has focussed on how shift shifting from parents, students and teachers from the challenge of distance learning to the challenging of returning to in-person class. we're committed to building a better bay area through it all. west elementary school in hillsborough's principal heather maata. thank you for joining us, mrs. maata. >> absolutely. thank you for having us. >> yesterday was the first day back of your community k through five. i know the preschoolers came back earlier. what was the mood like? >> today was amazing. we welcomed back not all of our students. we started off with the sequential approach. we welcomed back kindergarten,

and second graders today. students jumped out of their cars with big smiles on their faces and there was an amazing just energy on campus that we've missed since we closed our schools in march last spring. >> yeah. so alex, cahuna wants to know how many students do you have in your school? >> so full enrollments here at west school is 346. >> got it. ok. so it's kind of medium size. what safety precautions did your school and your district put in place for students and staff? >> sure. so we have a variety of safety precautions that we've been putting in place all throughout the summer. so we have of course very small classroom setting, so we have about 15 students in each of our classes. the largest class that we have is 20 students, but that's in a

very large space. it's been held in a library space. so that is also helping with our physical distancing, so making sure that we have that six feet between desks in the classroom. also we have lots of markers all over our campus. they're quite colorful. all three of our elementary schools are colored pathways, so students know how to get to and from. also, make sure that students aren't interming ling as well. >> i was going say. how did that work out, keeping kids from interming ling? i'm sure that was probably one of the moments that you were probably most concerned about or watching most closely, right? >> right. we've been clever. we've divide under our playgrounds. we have like chalk lines that divide up our playgrounds. so we have class rooms playing on certain parts of our playgrounds.

so then the two classes aren't mingling. we have rigorous sanitation. we're san tiegz our play structures as well, just as students, when they're playing with it, that it's sanitized. then also we have hand washing that takes place like before and after recess as well. >> in the video i saw kids had their masks on, the dervegs were apart. did you find that kids were able to keep their mavericks on the whole time that they were in class? >> yeah. for the most part they did a really great job. they were giving mask breaks today. we have some locations outside of the classrooms where students can go and take off their mask and just have a little bit of freedom for a couple of minutes. of course where students are also socially distanced. as we get used to wearing our mask all day. our educators had a practice day on friday where students wore

their masks for some -- starting at 8:30 up till dismissal, so you could get ready even before it arrives on campus. >> i'd like to find out what your procedure is with regards to temperature checks and very important testing, whether that is there for students and for staff. >> absolutely. so we've had just incredible partnership with our community, our staff, and of course where support through our foundation with hhs. we've partnering with someone who is helping us with testing. we were able to offer testing to all our students returning back and of course with our starvegs so that all took place before students arrived on campus today. also we had the health screen -- screening that takes place every morning. parents film out a questionnaire and when they arooichb campus, they show an app, this is a --

>> oh. >> weight would -- it has the name of the student, then also the date that the parent took the questionnaire, so when they're arriving on campus we have a visual that they have been cleared to come on to campus. so that -- today was day one. it went pretty smoothly. my pick up line -- or drop off was look a little longer. >> it takes a while to get used to things, i'm sure. but heather

tlaurng so much for joining us on this interactive show getting answer. we explored a variety of topics,

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