hi there, i'm i'm i'm i'm im sdz. london green will join us to talk about her city and county being the first in the bay area to move into the state's least restrictive reopening tier, yellow. she'll join us in about ten minutes but we want to begin with the governor's newly formed vaccine committee. u.c. berk any's head of epidemiology dr. art reingold. good to see you. thanks for joining us. >> sure. happy to be with you. >> you're part of this committee of 11, all highly respected

doctors, many of them from the bay area. what is your group's ultimate mission? >> so first i do want to agree with you that the governor's staff have put together a really superb group from experts from southern california, nourn california, academic institutions, health departments, so it is a great group of people with a lot of expertise. my understanding is that our committee -- and there are other advisory committees relating to covid and the vaccine. our committee is primarily being asked to review all the information as it comes out, about what we know about these new vaccines and to look very carefully at their safety, at their effectiveness and make recommendations to the state of california regarding their use. >> ok. so essentially getting your sale seal of approval before it's

released to californians. what steps will you be for the efficacy. >> the trials that are currently being done and we don't know exactly when those data will become available, but presumably sometime in the next one to two months we'll begin to see data from a couple of those trials. like people interested in trials of vaccines in general, we'll look at what do we know about how effective the advantage seep is. do we know anything about how effective it is for subgroups of the population and what can we say about safety of the advantage seep both broadly and in the suburbs. >> when does your work really begin? it sounds like you will start before a vaccine is even approved by the fda. is that right? >> well, i have to admit we're just getting organized. i have a call scheduled with staff from the california department of public health to

set out and agenda. i'm not exactly sure, to be pennsylvania honest, what our schedule is going to look like. we definitely want to be ahead of the curve and ready as soon as the data are available to look carefully at them. >> i caught you early on in the planning stages. i am curious, though. because a lot of people are wondering, wow, it sounds great but does it mean it's going to delay the distribution of the vaccine here in california. a lot of people wonld evering, when you say you'll do the verifying work, how long that might take. that's why i'm wondering if you start now and get the data as you go so it wouldn't be a long delay, if you will. >> the quick answer is we will keep any delays to an absolute minimum. we can't have access to the data until the companies release the data, so there's nothing i can do to speed up that process, but we will certainly will ready once the data become available to look at the information as quickly as possible. i also want to say that

simultaneously, the u.s. food and drug administration, it's advisory group and the cdc and it's advisory group on practices are certainly also going to be looking at the data. i actually have a great deal of trust in the professionals and experts working at fda and cdc, but we'll be looking at the same data that they are and seeing if we see anything of concern. >> look, i would ask you why you think this committee was even necessary, but of course we've seen the polls that show that the public is increasingly questioning whether they can trust, you know, a vaccine that might come out, especially if it feels rushed to people, if it feels like there's not enough clarity. i want to ask you if you think that all the politicizing going on surrounding the vaccine would cause enough people to not take it that it would not get you to the percentage needed to be able to protect the public. i know with vaccines you need a certain percentage of the population to take it before it

gets the protection you're hoping for. >> so, a, i hope we don't have that problem. b, i think one of the reasons for setting up this committee is to try and be able to reassure citizens of california that the only vaccine that's used here is in fact safe and effective the way they would want it to be. i think that extra measure of reassurance by having one more look by senators the state to help with that, we know some people have concerns about vaccination in general. we know that the urgency of getting a kwoefd rack seen has led to a remarkably speeded up time frame and it has been political sized. and that's unfortunate. but so i understand people's concerns. i'm certainly not going to put my stamp of approval on the vaccine that i wouldn't take myself as soon as my turn comes or give to my family when their

turn comes. >> is that a ring tone? that's an interesting ring tone. >> i don't know what that was. i thought i had it turned off. >> it's live tv. do not worry about it. you should see the different sounds popping up when we zoom with people. you have mentioned partnering with other people, other agencies to do this work. will you be partnering with your counter parts in other states, including, new york, we understand have said they will form covid advantage seep committees. >> that's a great question. i have read news report that new york state under governor cuomo set up a similar review pattern. we don't have plans yet to be in touch with the experts in new york. they have plenty of experts, but california is very well stocked with experts on vaccines and their safety and effectiveness, so, you know, i would say that the things we're most interested in as a group are in a transparent process, looking

at -- and i hope being able to assure the public about the safety of the vaccine. and then contributing to the discussion about how to make sure it's ekably distributed. >> california is doing pretty well overall, i think it's safe to say. san francisco moved into the least restrictive yellow tier and most of the bay area's in the orange. one of the states with the positivity rate below. what does that mean? >> one doesn't want to jinks good news, but you're right. so far at least at the moment, the california general and the bay area seem to be going in the right direction and i attribute that to the hard working health officials in our counties and state and to the people living in these counties who have by and large suffered through all the messaging that we give them about masking and social

distancing and hand washing. i do think it's important to point out that those days are not over. that is, if we don't want to see a major resummerens this winter, unfortunately, we need to keep doing those things. we can't let up now or we will see, i think, resurgences this winter, and you mentioned earlier achieving what i would call herd immunity through vaccination of enough people. we are unlikely to have enough vaccine for -- to achieve that in a state the side of california, probably before the middle of next year. for at least the next several months through the winter and into the spring, i think most of us are going to have to continue doing these other things to keep ourselves safe. >> especially with the flu season getting under way, the twin democrat

with that approach. i think the amount of severe imness and death that we will see if we go that route is going to be substantial. i think we really don't yet know about the long-term sequel ie of covid-19 in various groups. leaving that aside, i think if the notion is we can all stop wearing masks, we can all start going to bars and football games and spread the virus and get everyone immune while we keep the high-risk people safe, i'm fearful that a, would not keep high risk people safe and that the toll in terms of illness and death would really be unacceptable. >> dr. reingold, thank you so very much for joining us with

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it's a big day for san francisco. they are now moving into the state's yellow tier in the reopening process. the least restrictive tear means more capacity indoors, for example. joining us to talk about this is san francisco paper london breed. mayor,s justin on facebook wants to say hello, mayor, and congratulations. i want to say the same thing on

you on becoming the first bay county to make it into the first restrictive tier. who or what do you give credit to? >> well, i of course give credit to the people of san francisco. i know they were tired of moefr and over pretty much yelling at everyone and asking people to wear your masks, socially distance, cancel your events, don't come together. the fact is people actually listened and the people of san francisco have been amazing. you're the reason why we're here and i am so grateful and excited about the future, but i also want to be clear that we are not out of this pandemic. we still are seeing third waves of increases all over the country, but we haven't seen that yet in san francisco, and i don't want to see that. so as long as we continue to follow the order and wear our masks and do our part, the better things will be for all of us in our reopening effort. >> we've be talking over the course of the pandemic and every

time we celebrate something it comes always with the message that we have to keep up the vigilance and keep being came. i do want to ask you. we understand the city was al w allowed to move to the yellow status because of lower testing and because you met the state's equity metric which is pretty new. explain what that means and how you achieved it in san francisco. >> part of the challenges that exist sometimes when you're dealing with something like this that's impacting the entire city, there are communities that are disproportionately impacted like what we saw in san francisco with the latino community that's been disproportionately impacted by the number of increase in covid cases. the investment of close to 30 million dollars that we recently made has had a dramatic impact. we're seeing the numbers of new cases decline in the latino

community, so it has a lot to do with making sure that we are being equitable in our approach and not just concentrating on population but concentrating on our entire city, especially those communities that are being most impacted by the virus. >> uh-huh. and that didn't happen by luck, right? i'm sure you had to put more investments, more teams or more testing in those particular neighborhoods of san francisco that hadded the higher transmission? >> oh, definitely. and i got to tell you, we had been doing that, so from day one, when we set up our emergency operation center, we had an equity team embedded in our response, so that we can reach out to people who spoke different laps, so we can reach out to people who may not have understood what was going on, what the process is, the closures, the resources that we might have available as city, thanks to also some very generous people in san francisco, a lot of private people, private funders giving

anywhere between $5 and a million dollars to give to us where we've been able to pay rent for people and wage losses and other things for small businesses, so it took a lot of work to get to this point, but we knew from the very beginning this would be challenging and we had to make sure that we led with equity. >> all right. now it's paying dividends. i want to ask you to help break this down for us, what it means to be in yellow. you can see some of the key opening changes. walk us through the key dates and key sectors that will now be opening or expanding. >> the good news is we're going to be opening offices at 25% capacity beginning october 27. we're going to be expanding the capacity of gyms to 25% beginning that same time. indoor pools will be opening. also, the waxing and the other treatments that us women love will be available which is

absolutely incredible. but on november 3rd we're going to have bowling alleys, increasing capacity in our restaurants, they'll be going from 25% to 50%, as well as our houses of worship, our churches will go from 25% up to 50%, not to exceed 200 persons. where museums and the zoos and a lot of other -- >> theaters, too, i think, right? >> movie theaters. yes, and i know there's a continued problem around being able to serve snacks and concession. let me tell you, who wants to watch a movie without popcorn? i totally understand it. me and the public health officials are trying to have that conversation to get concessions opened up. this is -- that's our thing when we go to the movies. like a big screen and popcorn and the soda and a slurpee or a hot dog. we want to bring it back. things could change and we're still trying to figure out how we can make it happen safely.

>> all right. well, what happened school reopenings? technically when a county is in yellow, the schools can reopen. i know san francisco has multiple conversations. where are we with that? anticipation parenanxious paren wants to know. >> we provided information to all our schools public and private, middle schools can open around mid october and high schools sometime around november. we've had over 100 applications from you know, private schools and parochial schools and we've already opened up a number of private schools in our city. unfortunately, we are not there with our public school system which i have already expressed a lot of frustration about because at the end of the day we know that it's challenging. we know that our kids are anxiously waiting to get back to the school. i think what people may not

realize is, you know, there are a lot of challenges with kids who have parents who are working and are not getting the kind of lesson plans and the support that they need if they were in the classroom. >> uh-huh. >> we need to move with a lot more deliberate speed in trying to get these schools open. and so i know, it's been quite frustrating for me, but i know it's been so frustrating to parents, but especially single parents who are working, who are struggling. we should have the ability to at least open our elementary schools 678 we should have the ability to say wait a minute, why not at least two days a week. let's compromise here. let's work out some level of an agreement. our children are suffering. we're seeing the achievement gap widen and this is a city that has talked about and prides itself on equity and opportunities for the most vulnerable children. we are hurting them every single day our schools are closed.

>> mayor, do keep us posted on the progress in that regard. i want to end with this. halloween is coming up. the city has banned halloween parties, which is something, of course, the city -- >> i didn't ban any halloween anything. let's be clear. >> i thought the advice was no parties and let's discourage trick-or-tre trick-or-treating. i wonder if that changes now that you're in yellow and what is the best vice nor right now? >> we're hoping to be able to put out some guidelines soon. halloween is like really one of my favorite times of the year, and also kids have been really suffering. we finally opened playgrounds, which i'm so happy about, and i do think that, you know, as much as we can't have like some of the big block parties and other things that we had in the past with bringing too many people together, what we want to be able to do, the department of public health, is provide guidelines for safe ways that is

we can sell great halloween with our costumes and from a distance maybe with our friends. so i just think we're going to have to get really creative. >> this is the city of innovation. i'm sure we'll come up with creative ideas. mayor london breed congratulations on bringing the city down to yellow in terms of the reopening tiers. best of luck. good to see you as always. >> thank you so much. >> all right. coming up, breaking news, a ruling in the fir we made usaa insurance for members like martin. an air force veteran made of doing what's right, not what's easy. so when a hailstorm hit, usaa reached out before he could even inspect the damage. that's how you do it right. usaa insurance is made just the way martin's family needs it - with hassle-free claims, he got paid before his neighbor even got started. because doing right by our members, that's what's right. usaa. what you're made of, we're made for. usaa

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breaking news. a california appeals court judge just ruled in the first wrongful death lawsuit filed against san definite om prison. there were over 2200 cases late spring. joining us is the law professor to discuss what this ruling means. professor, as part of the lawsuit you argue that san quinton needed to release, i

think, 50% of its inmates immediately. so does that happen now? >> yes. the court of appeal has ordered san quinton to release 50% of its pop haitian or transfer 50% of its population to reduce the crowding in the prison to 50%. that means that there can be no more than 1775 people in san definiton and more than a thousand people need to be released or transferred. >> where would they go? if they go to other prisons, couldn't you have outbreaks and problems there if their protocol is not improved? >> the court is very aware of that which is why it makes recommendations. they're saying we're leaving open to the prison's discretion what to do. but they have refrapd from releasing people who are old and serving long sentences for violent crime. all of the strategies have excluded this population from release. would there be obvious people to let out because they've aged out

of crime, they're already old, and they face the highest risk of covid. because of that, this is the ideal population to target and the court is recommending to the prisons to consider adding everybody who's over 60 and has served more than 25 years to the list of people that they're releasing. >> uh-huh. what were you alleging was happening across the corrections system in san quinton, in particular. >> so this lawsuit is on behalf of one person who is 65 years old that has a lung condition who has been in prison and has been put in a yell another person who is also covid positive and he basically says there's no way you can achieve social distancing in this kind of situation. in june, a group of fence visited the prisons and they said you are putting people here that are extremely high risk right next to each other. you're going to have deaths. you're going to have ilnesses. this is going to be very, very

serious unless you reduce the population to 50%. and the prison ultimately refused to do that. what we alleged was that even though they took some steps to try to alleviate the problem -- >> they did release some problems, right? >> they did. for the most part, what they did is they stopped transfers from jail into the prisons. that worsens the covid-19 situation in those jails, which the court notes in the decision. so that is not a good solution. the idea is to try to find a solution that alleviates the pressure in the prison. now the prison is boasting that they finally reduced enough people that they're at 100% capacity. a full prison, that should not be a goal. that should be a starting point when you're facing a deadly pandemic. over 75% of the inmates have been positively diagnosed with covid and we've seen 28 guests. there's 300 staff sickened and

one guard died. >> any word yet on the corrections system appealing to the california supreme court? >> we don't know -- that's what -- assumably, the next step. they only have 5 days to do it. the court limited it to 15 days. after that, the case becomes final. >> all right, professor, san quinton does need to start releasing 50% o

and we are back after a pretty big show. lots of news going on. we talked with a kr who is part of the state's new vaccine committee. we talked with the san francisco mayor about moving into the

yellow tier and the court ruling out saying san quinton muss tonight, several developing stories as we come on the air. election day two weeks from now and tonight, president trump in the battleground of pennsylvania. while first lady melania trump canceled plans to go with him. and in a new interview, fox news asking the president for his plan handling the virus as we now move forward, as we see a spike in cases and hospitalizations across the country. and tonight here, the new rule for the final debate between the president and joe biden. what is the change and will it work? the coronavirus here in the u.s. the alarming number. hospitalizations now on the rise in 42 states. nearly 1 million new cases in the u.s. just since the start of this month. tonight, the images from texas to oklahoma, from montana to utah, and the hospital workers who say this new wave should be taken seriously, that patients are dying ane