they were arrested by the police and charged with second degree reckless endangerment because they received positive covid-19 pretravel test results. is hawaii welcome now? we'll talk that out. we'll start with abc 7's special correspondent dr. patel. good to see you.

hope you had a nice safe thanksgiving. >> it was safe. i was separated frerch. >> the numbers are alarming. california just shattered its one-day new case record. give us a breakdown because i think we really, really need to hear it. >> shattering case records is not where we want to be on december 2nd. given the fact that california is now seeing about 20,000 cases a day, we're not headed in the right direction. when people look at that 17 and 14 day average on test positivity, we're passing 6% into 7.3%. some people hear that percent and they say what's the big deal? as a state, if we test 140,000 people give or take on a single day and the amount of tests that come in positive goes up by half

a percent, that's thousands and thousands of new cases every single day growing on top of each other. that is the kufb going like this. headed into the holiday season. >> the percentage may sound small but each person could infect many others. you're talking about thousands more out there spreading it. it's exponential. i get it. california is not even in the worst position. we're getting a super bleak national director's words. he said we're going into three rough months and another 200,000 u.s. deaths would be possible. >> big picture where we would see 200,000 more deaths, which is hard to fathom. we would see overcrowding again. when we see that number rise up in california, just looking at our one state, we can already see we're headed to a creepy

winter where people cannot get into a hospital room unless they're really very ill and elective procedures will be postponed. this is something that everyone has their eyes on right now and why it's so important for people to pay attention to these numbers and pay attention to the way things are going when thinking about holiday travel. >> what if breast tumors a a found later? i experienced that myself where i had to wait a few more weeks than i normally would have. if that happened to thousands and thousands of people, think about the impact. someone asked you how are the bay areas doing. you mentioned you could run out of hospital beds, icu beds. santa clara said that could happen by mid dealings. that's in two weeks.

are they just trying to scare us or is that real? >> i wouldn't say they're trying to scare us. i've heard san francisco county alone using about 56% of its hospital beds. we see hospitalizations go up and take that in addition to what we're expecting right now in coronavirus surges, we could very easily see an overflow on our hospital system. that's what government worries about, that's what all of us in the public health department are worried about as well. i don't think it's a scare tactic. it's realistic. we saw it happen in other parts of the city. we enjoyed it but now it's going backward. every county in california now purple. >> hanging on. they're hanging on because they're not hanging out. >> they're hanging out. >> we want to get into what we

should do in a little bit. right now i want to get into vaccine news. britain gave approval to the vaccine. the first to do so. why did they move faster than us? >> it's a great question. now, if pfizer vaccine submitted their data, only about two or three days before the uk's similar body got the data and there's speculation right now about why it's possibly moving faster and they're looking at the exact data. it's up clear why they weren't able to comb through the data at a a faster pace. the reason we're taking so long is scientists are vetting it very carefully. >> yes, that's the hope. with that we want to bring in -- you ready for this -- two truths and a lie.

vaccine condition. i know you worked on it. our viewers, by the way, play on facebook live right now. enter your answer, because last time around, the audience did a lot better than me. so i'm ready. i'm pumped. i had some smart foods right before the show. let's do it. >> rock and roll. you tell me which one of these is not true. >> ok. >> number one, the reason the moderna and pfizer vaccine have to be kept so cold is because the ingredients have a special coding made up of lip ids or facts. according to a ceo we need about 60% of people to get the vaccine in order to stop the pandemic. number three, fda complete will meet on december 10th and 17th respectively to discuss a candidate. >> mmm. let me break this down. i need some music that help me think. i will say i did read that the

fda was going to meet on the days that you specified. i have think definitely december 17th, so i'm going to rule that one out. >> rule that one out. >> i've heard 70% herd immunity, so i'm going to say that's probably true, so i will say that a is the lie. >> you know why it's a lie? >> it's not because of the lip ids. >> it's not. you're correct. a is not true. >> whoo-whoo. >> it had to be cold because of the mrna. birdie view, the rna goes on the outside of the coronavirus. that teaches ourselves how to fight and defend against it. >> most people on facebook live said b. so gosh, you guys, i helped you

out there a little bit, didn't i? >> ceo of biotech said 6 o o 0 o to 70%. >> ok, ok. that was my enough bragging for the one day. our next block, we'll keep winning in this engaging way. drmpl patel, that was a good one. i want to stick with the vaccine issue. they said today a significant portion of americans can expect to be vaccinated by february. is that right? it sounds more optimistic than what we've heard from other doctors, including dr. bob wachter. >> that's -- we've heard different statements from both pfizer and moderna based on who was buying the spry. they might come out with anywhere between 30 and 50 million doses. and end of quarter one, we have

300 -- >> oh, sorry. i just streamed you live on my phone. you're -- on my phone. didn't mean to interrupt you. >> oh, my goodness. i'm having some internet problems with my laptop here on my desk so i wanted to see what my viewers were sigh sa iing so i pulled out the phone. sorry about that. exactly. ri

all right. we are back with abc7news special correspondent dr. patel. he was teasing on facebook live

that we have another round of two truths and a high. so go ahead. we are ready. >> round two. number one, the cdc voted 12-2 to recommend both health care workers and residents of long term health facilities get the vaccines first. number two, people living in long tear care facilities represent only about 6% of covid cases,s but 39% of deaths. number three, the first phase vaccine cause phase 1 a counts for 24 million people and there should be for this entire group to get one shot by the end of december. >> i'm going to ask our producer and director to leave this -- the options up here on the screen. viewers, go ahead -- >> it's tricky. >> yeah. exactly. this is hard. folks on facebook live, put your answer, a, b, c. this is a phone a friend.

i want you to be my friend because i think i need help. i know a is true. you can affirm that. i know that is true, because i read articles about that. so c and b, boy, that's a tough one. we have some folks saying b -- i lost you again. so i'm on my own. i can't see what our facebook viewers are saying. a lot of people are saying c is a life. first phase at roughly 24 million. i'm going with krsks because that's what our friends are saying on facebook and i think that does sound a little high. i don't know if we have that many dozes available. was it c? >> c's actually true. >> oh! >> here's why it's true. >> ok. >> we have about 21 million health care workers and three million people who are in long term care facilities and both are saying that pfizer and moderna could have 20 to 22 million doses available by the

end of december and you consider that is a two-shot vaccine. the thought is the majority of those people could get one shot. >> oh, it's -- >> i'm sorry it's tricky. b is true. that's why it's so important for those people to get the protection they need because they're such a vulnerable population. the respect a is not true because the cdc voted 13-1, it was not 12-2. >> i had to. >> you got us on a technicality. the spirit is not represented. overwhelming vote. >> and the one dissenting opinion was because of a concern about testing for safety in that older population, but the cdc advisory committee was way shurd by the outcomes by pfizer and moderna. it's important to know that these trials were done in a safe and systemic manner to make sure that the vaccines not only work

but that they don't have long term dangerous side effects and any discomfort that was felt went away quickly. >> if it's not transparent, if people don't take it, they won't take it. we need at least 70% to p70% top what are you hearing acts potential side effects, how severe they are, how common they are. >> absolutely. both pfizer and moderna's trial, think about more than 30,000 and 40,000. people recorded a whole host of discomfort, if you will, and it's estimated that about 10 to 15% of people may expect to feel something like fatigue, muscle aches, chills, maybe a little bit of a fever but the overwhelming majority, not every symptom went away after a couple of days. we don't want to consider these

as side effects as much as we want to feel them as a response. their immune systems are working. it means the vaccine is doing its job, it's revving up your immune system to prepare. they go away. it's important for people to understand so they not only know what to expect, they know to be prepared, to not panic, it's awesome for people to say i got this dose, i'm going to feel better soon. and i need to go back and get the second dose. the response are way better in actually getting covid 19. >> you don't want people getting a little bit of the side effect and saying i'm not going back, this is having an adverse effect on me. i get it. >> thank you. >> shortened the time from seven to ten days. meantime santa clara county kicked in that 14-day quarantine for people traveling 150 miles

out. who should actually do what? >> it's so confusing. it's changing all the time. here's that cdc did generally. they looked at a lot of data about the incubation period, about when the virus is most likely to cause symptoms. in most cases it's about four to five days after exposure and a smaller percentage of time, about a minor portion will see symptoms at about 14 days. if you think you've been exposed or you've traveled and you're concerned and you get a negative test about two or three days, it's safe to end your quarantine after about seven days if you get a negative test. if it isn't a negative test, they're saying ten days. the cdc feels it's a trade off in order to get people to adhere to a shorter quarantine than a long one. here's my translation. if you're specifically

concerned. if you're traveling to see someone who is high risk, heart disease, diabetes, whaervegs it's not a bad idea to wait the full 14 days. it's probably more important if you're a working individual, if you have to get to a job. you have to do something and you need to figure out when to end their quarantine. >> and, you know, with christmas travel coming up, really important to keep that in mind. i want to ask you, political leaders have been behaving badly. we had people who didn't practice what they preached. we saw that with newsom and the mayor. people gathered not in their same households. what do you tell people hey, why should we sacrifice when our leaders clearly aren't always? >> people should know right versus wrong. i hate to say that. people actually out there are way smarter and more weigh

insightful than they're giving credit before and people know what model behavior is. sometimes we see pictures of things and we don't know if there's a back story or if there's not. that's where i hook at political leaders and health officials of this country and ask them to pay attention to optics and how it looks to everyone else out there to quarantine fatigue. but you know what our political leaders should be doing. you know when the white house says they're going to throw a christmas party, you know when people go to french laundry for birthday paerkts you know it's right or wrong. i trust everyone else to follow the guidelines and do whatever you can to mitigate your own personal risk. >> ok. all right. got one more question. if health care workers are first in line, shouldn't their immediate family also receive the vaccinations? >> in theory, that would be

nice. however, there's just not going to be enough doses. the priority should be to people out there getting exposed. if we were to see a huge surge of cases in winter and not every health care worker is getting the shot, we may be mac where we were. it's not ideal. we already based on the numbers we talked about in two truths and a lie may not have enough doses for every hospital worker, to they may be rationing who within the health care worker population going to get the shot first. >> who is exposed truly the most. ok. >> absolutely. >> we're out of time so you don't have to answer this. i think it's more a statement that a question. but this person says when is dr. patel joining biden's task force? >> i would love to. i will wear a candy cane lapel

if i need to. >> get that lapel pin ready. two truths and a lie today, as always. see you next time. thank you. >> thank you. and i appreciate that question. >> i know, i know you do. coming up next, we're going to talk ak a volunteer paying your air fare to

all right. welcome back. we asked midday live viewers if they could work from home anywhere, where would it be? nearly half said hawaii. i'm with you on that. a new program with a goal of relocating inlanders to the aloha state. joining us is ceo of kwh analytics and a volunteer helping to dick start this. aloha, richard. >> aloha.

>> you headed to honolulu when the pandemic hit, right? >> that's right. >> you're almember of a group, what's the offer here? >> so really i think what we'd like to do is attract the tlemted workers of san francisco to give hawaii a try. i think that there's both a give and a get to this points program. what the participants will get is free round trip flight and they're going to be volunteering. >> have you gotten applicants already? i know you only launched it a few days ago. >> that's right. the program launched on sunday and applicants will be considered on a rolling basis for the next several weeks. we don have the latest numbers. >> you only have 50 pots, right, at least for now.

>> that's right. >> i got to think this is a an effort to divert the economy as well. when you have a pandemic, it's hard. great plan. so who are you trying to bring in? people with what kinds of skills or professions? >> i think from our standpoint, san francisco and other places like san francisco have a super abundance of talented knowledge workers to make remote work work in today's environment. i think in particular san francisco, of course, given the strong bent towards tech and the alignment where tech companies are the first to say it will be normalized on a going forward basis, a particularly good fit for this program. >> in some ways hawaii seems to be trying to roll out the welcome matt. at the same time we're seeing other signals. we word that a couple

positive in a flight to kauai. kauai. >> it's true. if you think about every dollar of economic activity, one remote worker has the same economic impact as 15 short term tourists do. this is an opportunity to bring the same dollars in and have 50 times less probability they're bringing a virus into the island. i think the question is what is the smart tradeoff that we need to be making? and our belief that this is an attractive offer for hawaii. >> isn't housing in hawaii challenging and expensive? >> all depends on where you reference. san francisco, as we know, challenging place. >> that is true, that is true. is there assistance other than the air fare and bring them

there? is there any helping them get settled? >> a group of organizations, five hotel organizations that have donated significant discounts with regard to their hotel rates as well as the number of restaurants and other local businesses that have actually been here. >> richard, how do people apply? >> sure thing. you go on line at movers

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we talked to a volunteer behind a program tonight, the new and dire warning. the covid risk to all americans is, quote, at an historic high. that warning from the white house coronavirus task force today. the head of the cdc now predicting the u.s. could see 200,000 more deaths by february. what top health officials are now telling americans over 65 about leaving the house. tonight, the uk, the first country to approve the pfizer vaccine. the rollout now under way. and here in the u.s., when authorities say to expect emergency approval here. with that news overseas, the pfizer vaccine approved and likely soon here, we ask, how sure can americans be that it is safe? should they expect any side effects? dr. jha is right here tonight answering your questions. despite that new warning from president trump's own task force on the viru