>> announcer: building a better bay area for a safe and security future, this is abc 7 news. hi, there, i'm kristen sze. welcome to our daily program called "getting answers." we ask experts everyday your questions at 3:00 to get answers in realtime. today t our race and social justice correspondent julian glover about his housing discrimination story getting millions of views online. a important issue. plus a local football coach joins us to talk about the confusion of where youth sports stands depending on the county in the bay area you liver in. but first joining us to kick off the discussion about tiger l lk about youth sports and the vaccine new is dr. pundya chief of orting paid iks at ucsf benoff hospitals in

oakland. thank you. good afternoon. >> thank you for having me. >> look, we were all so worried for tiger woods and i want to get to that in a second. but first real quick headlines if you can give us on the vaccine front. because i heard good news on fidser and johnson & johnson. can you tell us about that. >> exactly. inkt we have very good news about the efficacy of the vaccine. the most important thing right now is that gives us more options and more people will get it particularly the younger age groups. we have more options. vaccinations are going smoothly. we'll be in a much better place in the summer. >> well we certainly hope so. right now i want to turn to the golf superstar tiger woods with expertise on sports injuries. what is the latest on his condition? we understand he has serious lower leg injuries. >> when i first heard the news the number one thing i was hopeful about was that there weren't injuries to other parts of the body.

his head was to a fine. but you get worried about long-term issues. number one a fracture went through the skin. which is high risk of infection. number one is making sure he doesn't have infection. number two, the bone was broken in multiple places. that makes it harder to heal. and thirdly they had to release pressure in the lower leg. meaning there was swelling. particularly trying to preserve muscle and ligaments and tendons. it's a long road to recovery for him. everything based on the reports i heard are going well. but again it's a several month recovery for tiger getting back to walking and sports. >> what about foot and ankle injuries? in your experience do any typically male 100%? obviously you can't have impediment to walking if you are playing golf. >> obviously not seeing the x-raies and knowing exactly what was broken, any time you have an injury in the joint or bone broken in multiple places you worry about the ability to walk and the athletic activity is a whole another level of strain on the byrd. i definitely think the areas

hurt can be difficult for an an athlete. but he has a lot of determination and i'm hopeful he can get back. >> all the fans hope so. we have heard of other athletes getting back into the game, quarterback arlgs smith with the 49ers but now with washington also had back injuries. i think -- and leg break. i'm sorry. so he is recovered. talk about whether that bodes well for tiger or if the situations are just different. >> there are obviously some differences. but i think it bodes well for tiger. the thing amazing about alex smiths is he had a lot of things you worry about with open injury happen. infection, and multiple surgeries. before alex smith i think the prognosis would be difficult for tiger. but that tiger is playing non-contact sport and alex was. bodes well for tiger. >> you mentioned some things, including infections. i guess my question is when will we be make a better assessment?

when can we say this much time has gone on and it looks good? when will we know. >> a couple of milestone. in the next couple of weeks we make sure no infection. then around three months we get a sense of the healing the hardest part of the overis now the muscles and tissues respond. that may be several months from now. it's stepwise good news and the real prognosis won't be known until six or seven months. >> what do you expect will happen during the rehabilitation? what kind of exercises will he have to go through? what what do you think the regimen might be. >> obviously you think about a professional athlete they think about gaining strength, getting back to the field. but for tiger it's basics things, mobility, learning to walk, starting to run. and then starting to do weight lifting and all the other exercises. it's breaking down and almost like becoming a kid and learning basic things we take for granted. >> i want to turn our attention

to youth sports. obviously here in the bay area it's a huge topic because the governor has okayed outdoor contact sports, football, water polo and lacrosse to begin competition. do you feel good about that. >> yeah, injury the one thing i'm looking forward to is the rates in the commune. and with the rates in the commune getting lower, more vaccine, hospitalizations going down, i think that's the most important factor. now the next big step is are each individual school going to have resources to keep earn safe? what we have in the commune is better. now it's a matter of each school keeping athletes, coaches and fans safe. >> the i understand test something a component for football players and water polo. closer contact. is that something that can be done site to site with uniformity and accuracy. >> the state funding for it it can be done. the critical component is who li who is following up the tests,

making sure the kids are quarantined and contact tracing. that's equity. if we can ensure that then it will be a good transition to kids playing sports. >> do you think thmts playing should get the message whether from schools or coaches or public health officers, hey if you choose this you need to forgo other transmission risks like hanging out with friends. >> absolutely. we have very good at a time that covid transmission doesn't happen on the field. it's hanging out with friends afterwards, the bus ride over. in practice where any take off masks. if kids are playing sports they need to make sure all the other components of their life, social distancing and wearing masks in order to make sure the community is safe and they can keep playing. >> dr. pundya do you think there are ways to play indoors sports that are not allowed yet like volleyball or basketball in the red tier? because indoor gyms are opening in san mateo and marin counties

which are red. a lot of parents are asking why not volleyball. >> there is some data some of the indoors sports, particularly volleyball can can be as safe as outdoor. where it's difficult is the fact that there are so many kids playing sports as once. are the schools handling it? you have to draw the line somewhere that that how many sports are being played. as rates drop, we can get back to indoor sports. >> but what do you say to counties that choose to not allow sport. despite the state giving the greenlts for football for example, san francisco public health is molding back. what do you think about that. >> i think it's a complex decision and there are multiple points on each side. each county knows the data and the resources they have the best. i understand it's fruiting traiting for youth athletes. but the counties are dealing with multiple issues. but as long as they make the

decisions based on data, hopefully they can get back to playing. but i think each county knows the data the best and will make the right decision. let's dived into covid case numbers we've been trending positively in a good direction wsh i should make that clear. >> right. >> for the last few weeks. but today i think the new numbers give us pause in terms of not celebrating too early, right? >> yeah, i think it's a roller coasterer. we'll have some good weeks, bad week. the most important message we need is to keep up the vigilance. the things we've been doing the past year, wearing masktss, socially distancing are what gets us back to normal life. and even though we kind of take in the -- out of the driver's seat a bit in terms of how vigilant we are being, as long as we do those things we can get to a good level. but it's a definitely good week, bad week until we start vaccinating a lot of people. >> dr. pundya with ucsf thank you for your time and insight

today. we really appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. >> take kir. all right. coming up next we have a local football coach to kind of continue the conversation about youth sports. we'll take a short break on the ntacebook live.vers and remember in the third segment we have my colleague julian glover to talk about his let us take you to a place you've been craving. where the aroma of authenticity turns into the scent of home.

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wh l it comes to youth sports. now let's hear from a coach. joining us is is the head football coach of riordan high school in san francisco. mark modest. thanks for joining us. >> i'm good, kristen thank you for having me.

i'm doing well thank you. >> the governor has given the greenlight to outdoor contact sports like football. but that doesn't apply to you right now. your team can't compete. you can't start. why? >> we actually don't know the total back rowe backdrop what we are allowed to do yet. but we oh do have parameters in place. we are lourd to do practice at the beginning of march 1st when the other counties are. but we don't have clearance to participate in the full contact part of it which we need for preparation to play. >> right. so you're practicing as in king. you're getting players ready. but you don't know about competition, actual games yet. san francisco public health is not allowing that just yet. we reached out to them to ask about it. and they said the state tiers are intended as a guide and have have been established for counties small and rural. and large and populated as l.a. and dense and urban as san francisco.

acceptable risk in suburban or rural area may have higher level of risk in san francisco. that's the statement from public health. i'm wondering if you kind of agree with that in any aspect? do you think there could be a higher level of risk in san francisco playing football than in a rural area that's in the same tier? >> you know, i'm not equipped to answer that question. but what we have to look at i think is our surrounding neighbors. and -- and also we do have to look at the fact that, yes, the california department of health has come out with the guidelines. it's been looked with a fine tooth comb and under the microscope as it should be. we're in the middle of the pandemic. we understand that as educators and coaches. we want to adhere to all protest columns. but looking to left and right in counties and it has been approved and we have looked at whether it's -- whether it's the effect it's had on the young people and the bifurcates and all that stuff, and our boys and

young women are seeing the go ahead there, and we're not getting that or at least the attention towards that yet. we have to -- we have to take a little pause and ask why. >> so, mark, normally your teams would play for example teams from san mateo county, marin county, and both of those counties have gotten the go ahead. and not just because they moved into the red tier this we can. but they were purple just like san francisco is purple and the county said yes because the state said yes. but san francisco is holding you back. what does it mean to the teams in san mateo and marin counties if you're on the schedule, riordan high school but you can't play them yet. >> there is a lot of layers to this, four sure. no, it does. we're in a league. our league is comprised of private schools from santa clara county, san mateo county and san francisco. sots it would affect them greatly. coach walsh has done a great job of spear heading getting change. and we appreciate all the efforts. and many corona virus. >> you're talking about patrick

coach walsh. we talked with him many times and talked about the impact on kids. and i wanted to notice if you notice in student athletes. some people might be saying we have a pandemic. what's a game. what what if they don't play. but tell me about the student athlete and mentality. what do you see? is there academic impact on them as well when they don't play. >> there is no question there is academic impact. i've noticed through the years of coaching that when a young man, my case, men, as a football coach when they decide to leave or quit, the grades -- i've is seen it it goes down. it creates, routine, continue out and teaches lessons beyond the field. in our cases we've had administrative that's been supportive to the young men and women and looked in the looking glass and seen the future.

but i'm proud of our young men. and they've done great in academically in the midst of this. but there is no question that there is fallout in the determines of the academics and the social piece is big one. >> i want to get one last yes in with regard to -- some people say you are a private school, sizable population at your school they can play club sports. why are you so, you know, fighting this battle and care so much about, you know, the city, san francisco kids being allowed to play overall? >> well, it's just that, i mean. i think they have to have -- i think there is -- we have to take every opportunity to campaign for our young people. we don't want to say we should do it and others shuntd. we want to make sure it's equal as possible. but we don't want anybody held back. i would never want a young person not to have an opportunity because it wasn't created down the road. the optics on these for the young people is i've seen it all over the country. now seeing it happen down the

road. and i just want to take every step possible to give them the opportunity to play and be with their friends. >> right. because this not being able to play certainly applies to the public schools here in san francisco as well. and there are so many more kids actually. so this has a lot of impact. mark modest thank you so much. head coach at riordan high school in san francisco. appreciate i don't wish insight. >> all right. take care. we'll talk to julian glover about his housing discrimination about his housing discrimination story seen by so you went to ross to refresh your look for less? and snag top brands for prices that have you, like "oooh yeah"! styles that take you here or here or even right there. slip into the best bargains ever... at ross. yes for less!

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home and stunned when after all the improvement their house was appraised at only about $100,000 more. and now we hear of more cases of housing discrimination in the bay area. abc 7's race and culture reporter julian glover shared the austin story two weeks ago and joins us live now. julian, amazing reporting. what's been the reaction to the austin story? >> thank you, kristen. so happy to be here with you this afternoon. the reception to the story has been absolutely mind blowing. i have seen this thing shared across the country and truly across the world. i've had teachers in canada reaching out and saying they showed this to students. i've seen it shown in legal seminars. while i've been encouraged by the wide reach and how many people see the story and realize for the first time this is a form of housing discrimination as well. but i've been disheartened by the number of similar stories, people, families reaching out to me not just in the bay area but

from all across the country. >> well, i know, look most people believe that housing discrimination has long been a problem. that's why congress passed the fair housing act of 1968. but some people say convince me that racism was at play here. let's hear more on what happened after the austin's first shocking low appraisal. >> i've been a realtime tor ten years and currently as licensed real estate broker. >> my wife. >> i've been training to become a appraiser for 2.57 years now. >> somebody doesn't have to say the reason we did it was because we were black or puerto ricoen or people of color. but that's the reason why. >> we kind of felt it the moment that he came to our house. >> the curtisis pulled reports of the comprables roams the appraiser used from the market listing service they have access to as a licensed real estate broker and agent. >> okay. so their story, you know, came after you reported on the austins. in their case i guess they would

know what the comparables are and what the appraised value should be. they looked at the data and said this isn't right zwloo exactly. that's the curtis family in oakland they reached out after seeing the austin story moments after it aired. and said we have a similar story and we know something is not right because we are both in the real estate industry. domenique, the wife is actually currently a studying to be an appraiser, has been doing that for two and a half years. is it is taking her test soon is well versed in appraisals appear who how it should play out. also, the husband rambled is a real estate broker. extensive training. they worked in real estate quite some time and they knew something was wrong when the home was valued at $9 0,000 flat. six or seven months later after it was appraised for $$1,154,000. a huge difference and is the reason they told me a couple days ago they decided to sign a

lease to rent a home and sell their property. they were unable to lock in the low mortgage rates, saving potentially thousands of dollars a year on their mortgage. and this is now causing them to miss out on the american dream of owning their own home. >> now we're talking about the potential impact of never getting, you know, having that home, building equity, build the wealth, something you could pass onto your children. this could have generational impact just from the one appraisal. >> yes. and i think that's been what upsetting for so many people that realize the bigger picture of what's happening here that there are generational impacts when we talk about creating intergenerational wealth. what we no he is that most americans are horrible savers and way we acraw accrue that wealth to growth it is through the equity in the home and that comes from staying inside a home for decades at a time. unfortunately, this family, the curtis family in oakland will not be able to do that as they are now looking to sell that property.

>> that's the curtiss in oakland. i want to go bab to the auvrts in marin city, the ones who sank 400,000 into the remodel and got the appraisal for only $100,000 more. appearing to them as the appraiser. but then a twist. let's show people what happened. >> i read the appraisal. i looked at the number. i'm like this is unbelievable. >> the family tells me the appraiser was an older white woman. and they are convinced race as a factor. the home appraised for $$989,000. $$100,000 more than the appraisal before any started the work. despite so 400,000 in renovations. >> it was like a slap in the face. >> the austins immediately called the lender and pushed back after a plont of escalating the complaint they were approved for a second appraisal when the date came they got creative. >> we had a conversation with one ever our white friends. she is like no problem i'll be tanisha, bring over picture of my family.

made our home along is belonged to her. >> is appraised to more than it appraised for a couple weeks prior. >> almost 1.5. $$500,000 more. >> and they didn't fix up the hoemgs to be nth degree between the two appraisals, right? there was nothing that would have changed other than just who they thought the home owner was. that reminds me of the case in florida where you had that interracial couple last summer had the home appraised when the the appraisal came back below comprables. this time the wife who was black she took down all photos of black relevant tivrs was not home for the appraisal. only the husband was home to meet the appraisal and then they got 40% above the value of the first appraisal. when you have stories like this people go something is going on. but do you have broader data that kind of makes the case and really shows us what's been

happening hon a broader level. >> so many people have been chairingo sharing the story of the florida couple saying no the marin city is not a one-off. in the second piece i made sure to include broader data from the brookings institution from a 2018 study that found that black assets, black homes in black neighborhoods are valued at less than comparable homes in white neighborhoods. they controlled for all of the zillow metrics, how close to the school, how gad the schools, crime in the neighborhood all those things. and they looked at the bare bones of the homes themselves, comparing apples to apples, black nakds to primarily all or exclusively white neighborhoods and found black homes were valued at 23% less on average, a difference of $48,000 on average. in the bay area the numbers even more drastic. talking about a 27% difference between black homes in majority black neighborhoods versus white homes in exclusively white neighborhoods, a difference of

$164,000. this is what we're talking about when it comes down to intergenerational wealth, the tax base to be able to afford things like improvements to schools and all the other things that we know the tax dollars go to. and really hampers intergenerational wealth. i want to oint out something that andre and perry the guy who wrote the study shade. we shouldn't have to scrub blackness from homes to get a fair shake. that snum 16o $156 million. could have paid for the. >> i'm sorry to interrupt but let's continue the conversation on faceb

going. thanks. >> you bet, thanks, kristen. and thank you so much for

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