>> basically they said that that facebook had made the right call initially when they decided to ban trump from using the service. the big caveat was that it is in a definite amount of wrong, meaning it could be bad for how long until they decide to bring a backer never bring them back. that is improper. in the board's mind, facebook needs to set a specific amount of time that i essentially, they kicked the

decision back to facebook and said give us a concrete answer. >> what's the timeline now? >> yeah, exactly we might be back here in six months. apparently they have as long as six months to decide what his final fate on the platform is going to be facebook to see if they have an estimation. it could be any time. >> why didn't they decide for themselves before whether or not he should be banned forever. did they pass the buck? >> my understanding was that the rational was that they basically said facebook can't enforce its rules in the future if they art being made up as they go on and do not adhere to them in the moment. my suspicion is that they want facebook to set its own president and stick to it instead of acting as we all

thought it would be, this thing that hands-down says this is exactly what you should do. basically, they are saying no facebook you have to decide what those rules are and you have to adhere to them when you decide. >> the way an oversight board usually works. speaking of president, has facebook banned anyone permanently before? >> many of the sort of bad actors in terms of state sanctions, hacking, misinformation manipulation, for sure they ban. they have different spam and bought programs that they have to do with all on every day. part of this is setting that president

leader in the future has to go through something similar and what they will do in the case. >> bots or a different story. if a facebook bands mr. trump, would they have to go through and been every person, whether they are celebrity or not, that they believe help spread coded or election lies? >> does the separate -- set a preference down the line. part of this, facebook said there is different circumstances for newsworthy people and newer the statements which is very arbitrary and lets them off the hook a lot of times. i think it is important to see what they decide on this and if it has downstream consequences for folks in the future. >> to the fact that he may run again in 2024 be a factor? >> that is a great question. that is something we should ask facebook. what mark zuckerberg has always said he does not want to be the

governor of truth. he thinks politicians should have voices on the platform as well. he is even more wary to censor them to keep them from speaking because of their position in the united states and running for office. it will probably have some bearing for sure. >> whatever they decide, will other platforms follow suit? >> that is the $24,000 question . what is twitter doing? my guess is they are trying to stay out of the limelight and hope everyone looks at book right now. they have not decided -- said that they have decided to turn back on their decisions. >> have you heard anything about the new social platform that x president trump is allegedly working on? they relist from the desk of, it looks like a blog that doesn't allow comments? >> it was funny. it was supposed to be this trumpet-based social network.

it actually works as a wordpress blog without people being able to talk back. it is much lower fidelity than people expected. the part that is interesting is that he is having other people share it to facebook and twitter. maybe there is a way he can get his voice out there on social media without actually being on social media himself. >> is there really a way to shut someone down these days with all of the social media platforms that are popping up in new avenues every day? >> that is exactly right. trump and other politicians are always going to be in the public sphere and able to speak on tv and all sorts of mediums. people share their statements all the time through their own social media. it seems it very difficult to completely erase someone's voice from the internet entirely. >> all right. we will be watching. whatever facebook besides, there are bigger ramifications.

in queue so much for joining us today. we appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. >> coming up next,

welcome back. may is mental health awareness month. all this month, abc 7 is working to help our bay area

communities create a better path forward and create resources for mental health. many experts say the pandemic is taken a huge toll on teens in particular. today we have a high school senior from san mateo that battles depression and has come out on the other side. sadie sutton is sharing her journey through her podcast, she persisted. so good to see you. >> good to see you too. i'm so happy to be here. >> the pleasure is all of ours. you are 18. you are about to graduate from high school. you have 10,000 monthly listeners. that is pretty awesome. what is your goal in saying the she persisted podcast? who's it for? >> the goal had to listeners was to let other teams know they are not along in their struggle, to let them know that someone else has been there. you can make measurable changes to your mental health and come out on the other side. i thought that was an narrative that was missing. i wanted to change that. >> when i mentioned i wanted to talk to mental health, several

local students suggested i check out your podcast, which i did. i was impressed by how open you were. here's a clip. >> when i started freshman year , i was really struggling. i could barely stay in school the whole day because i was having panic attacks. my i was in and out of treatment. i was going to the hospital every couple of months. i was doing outpatients after school. i was missing the end of classes because i was committing -- commuting an hour and a half to get to appointments. my life was blowing up around me. >> when did it start, your life blowing up around you? >> it was something that i didn't notice. i know a lot of teams when they start noticing depression, it sneaks up on them.

you are in a unique experience so that when you are experiencing these experiences that she really built up on me to the point where i felt so isolated in my experience and so alone in my suffering and like no one understood what was going through. >> wow. how did that manifest in your daily life? whether it is the relationship you had are the things that you did? >> every single textbook checkmark that i ask you, my sleep was messed up, fully participating in school, ability to engage in all of these activities that used to bring me joy. i just struggled.

my number one focus was just making it through the day and being emotionally stable. everything else it took a back burner whether that was relationships, friendships, school, other projects, family life. all of that's turtle. >> was there rock-bottom for you? >> it's interesting. i felt like i was living my rock-bottom for weeks and months at a time. i thought it would be that way forever. i think my true rock-bottom was the moment when it changed. that was the last moment i remember struggling. that was when i started my intensive treatment in boston. for the first time i believed that i could get better. i took the opportunity to want a better life for myself and i put enough and individuals around me to get there. that was the last point when i believed that nothing would ever change and that i was truly alone and that i wasn't able to make these changes in my life. >> and we got to that point where you wanted to get better and believed that you could. there was a sense of helplessness even from your family members. >> i had to audio at all. i thought it was fine. >> we started to notice that

there were changes. >> the level of distress, it was just as so big. it was so big and so heavy and so deep. you are really hurting. >> we heard from your, was it your sister and your dad? >> my sister and my dad and the third clip was actually a therapist. i got to circle back with all of these individuals that had an impact on my journey and create this full circle picture about my struggling look like, what my treatment look like, what i wish we had done differently to create that resource that we didn't have. >> do you now feel that their pain was as great as yours and your struggle was their struggle? >> i feel like it was definitely different. i feel like all of our experiences are subjective. what they were experiencing as a result of my life blowing up around me was different

do not think it was any less overwhelming or severe. as a parent, what are the hardest things is to see your child struggling and suffering and not knowing how to help. that is overwhelming just as much as me feeling and pain and suffering and not knowing where to go next. truly does affect everyone in the family, even if you can explain their experiences. you are all in it together. >> about you try these things that didn't work. ultimately you say going to boston, the residential treatment program, that was it. ultimately, what worked? there's no silver bullet, but what are the baby steps that you can do every day. >> as far as treatment, there is this dialectical behavior therapy, it has amazing resources in the bay area

far as the day-to-day things, take care of your basic help, your sleep, your diet, your connections. the things that make mental health worse and increase your vulnerability. keeping doesn't check is huge. like i just mentioned, connections. having strong support systems before things get bad. build that muscle of coping. lastly, i would say building a life of things you enjoy, planning activities that may bring you happiness and increase your mood overall. we do all experienced those lows, it is not that we -- that's not all that we are experiencing. we have this balance to balance it out. >> sadie, i am seeing a lot of reaction on facebook live. i want to show you a couple of things. alex says she is so smart and self-assured and articulate. good for her. rico says that is so great to hear that. ava says, high, high sadie you are an inspiration for all ages. is that why you do it?

are you trying to give hope to other teams? i know there are many other kids going through it >> i think so much of my struggling was preventable if i had learned these coping skills earlier needed to struggle as much as i did. i think that is true for so many teens out there. first, reminding them that they are not along. giving them the hope that coming out of the other side is possible. teaching the skills that make these things preventable even if you are not struggling with depression and anxiety. >> you still experience moments, right? i know you feel like the depression is behind you. sometimes, you get moments? >> i think been able to articulate describe depression, especially to individuals who have not experienced it. we all experience sadness and shame and we all experience things like depression sometime. if you can learn skills that

help in these moments of depression, dealing with thoughts of isolation, sadness, whatever it is, you can use the same skills and resources. they are just as effective in helping me get through high school stress and college applications and transitions like every teen experiences. i'm glad you mentioned applications. can we share that moment as you got your decision from your dreams goal the university of pennsylvania? we can error the screaming and happiness forever. i just want to ask. that was a real moment. it was joyous. but what if it was it? would you still put that up? >> 100%. college applications bring so much stress to teens in the bay area. i found myself submitting all

of the applications. i intended to go on that night to talk about the retraction that i thought was coming. >> my friend -- my sister said i think you're going to get rejected and this is going to be so awkward. i said this is not what we need right now. i wanted to bring people along for the journey. >> sadie, the university of pennsylvania lucked out. they made the right decision. congratulations in your journey. you folks want to listen to the podcast, she persisted, it is streaming on all podcast. go to @shepersistedpotcast .com. sadie, come back soon. you can fill in for me anytime. you would be a great host.

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♪ call one eight hundred, eight million ♪ welcome back. we just heard from a local teenager that is working through her depression and anxiety and turned it into a therapeutic podcast. what else can you do? joining us now is clinical director of the children's health council, dr. jessica byrd homestead. >> thank you for having me >> your organization has been providing support to children's, teens and their parents for 16 years. how common his team depression and anxiety? >> i think adolescence to be a challenging time for everyone. but when we look at concerns such as anxiety and depression, really the numbers range. but what we know from this last year if that up to 60% of teens

will experience some symptoms during that time. >> are girls more susceptible? >> it shows up in different ways. often, it can be more common for girls to talk about it and be more emotionally expressive. the socialization of boys, it is been harder in many ways. it really impacts both. all genders. >> with the loss of social interaction, that has been challenging. have you seen that reflected in the number of patients that are coming in? >> absolutely. there has been a huge increase in demand? 74% of school districts have reported an increase in those seeking services as well as just looking at mental health symptoms across the board for everyone is up about four fold.

this is for adolescents and adults it is at 40%. we are seeing a huge increase in symptoms across the board. >> what are the signs that a teen may be struggling? >> something to look out for as a parent or caregiver is behavior change. you are the expert on your own teen. if you notice increased isolation, decreased energy, maybe they're not doing the things that they used to enjoy. this can all be signs to look out for and the things to check in with your teen about. >> holly has a question on facebook live. how do you get people into treatment that do not think they have an issue? >> inking about this from the caretaker perspective. i am always encouraging parents to take that first step. we are often leading by example. be one to initiate that conversation. the hope is that that will role model seeking treatment.

sense, these are basic steps in encouraging your team, specifically if you are parent by seeking help with them. >> sadie talk about what worked for her. she began wanting to help and embrace that. do you have other tips? >> absolutely. first off, just starting the conversation. like a said, for parents and foa caregivers, setting a tie time to connect and talk things that do not include work or school and open up that space. often times, maybe they don't -- your teen or young adult doesn't feel like talking about what's going on, but just letting them know that you are setting aside this time for them it is just for them. one of the tips you have is daily routine and things like that. you don't want to force a

conversation? >> saying we're going to have a talk about feelings but hey, let's play a game? do you want to do something? let's go outside. often we will notice that teens start to open up naturally. it becomes a natural conversation. a lot of good information coming. i am fortunate to be the moderator of this conversation tomorrow. i'm looking for to what they have to say. that begins at 9:30 in the morning tomorrow. it is virtual. anybody can attend. >> absolutely.

we encourage you to. >> again, we do want to remind you we have a list of resources at abc 7 news/take action

thank youse for joining us on this interactive show getting answers. today we cover been on facebook and instagram. the two are related together and what this means for the future of social media and other platforms. may is also mental health awareness month and we talked with at san mateo team, sadie sutton . you can find her podcast with all sorts of great information at

@shepersistedpotcast.com. we also spoke with a clinical psychologist about what you tonight, the coronavirus in the u.s. and the eye-opening new headline from the cdc. and the breaking news tonight involving two young americans found guilty a short time ago in italy, now facing life in prison. first, the virus tonight, the cdc out with a new report and new projections tonight on the pandemic. saying if vaccinations continue in the u.s., we could very well see a, quote, sharp decline in cases by july. cdc director dr. rochelle walensky say the variants remain the wild card and tonight, the major league teams offering free tickets if you get a vaccination at the game. also tonight, that verdict just in for two american college students on trial for what authorities say was a deadly attack on police in italy. news from the courtroom coming in now. facebook will keep