all right, we begin with breaking news in san francisco right now, where a shooting near oracle parkoracle parkorack several streets. are looking at the police tape there. abc7 news has learned an officer shot a man shortly before 1:00 this afternoon along with varney place. that is the small street near the intersection of brandon and third streets in san francisco. that man suffered a gunshot wound to the rest. the officer was not hurt. people are being asked to asked that area while police continue to investigate. we don't know how long the officers will remain at the scene, but it is worth noting, that the the the the the the th

game tonight at oracle park at 6:45 pm, so folks will be headed out there pretty soon. this is still happening nearby. for update, download thabc7 ne app join us for abc7 news at 4:00 for the very latest. meantime, i'm kristen sze, we want to welcome you to our regular daily program, getting answers. we are asking experts your questions every day 3:00 to get answers for you in lots of new covid headlines today, from colleges requiring vaccinations, to whether vaccines are causing death, to new developments on the pfizer vaccine. joining us now with all of that and to answer your questions, which you can ask right now on facebook live, on our live streamed, abc7 news special correspondent, dr. alok patel. dr. patel, happy friday to you. >> happy friday, kristen. good to see you. >> good to see you, but better to see your lovely newborn. is she able to make an appearance right now or napping? something very important. >> we can get her in, she is having milk right now with the ladies, so i have been sequestered to the bedroom. i will see if she can jump in later.

>> we would appreciate an exclusive tron contract. i want to kick things off with two truths and a lie because only covid headlines today. >> let's do it. everyone knows how this goes. astute audiences come and tell me which one of these is not true come around one. a, pfizer is expected to submit an emergency use authorization for the vaccine for 2 to 11- year-olds in september. or is it b, for the cdc, the covid-19 shot should be given one week apart from other vaccines, before or after. or is it c, less than one third of parents say they will get their teens vaccinated right away, according to a recent kaiser family foundation survey pick which one of those is not true? >> okay, i know letter a is true. in fact, i was going to ask you to elaborate. so that is not it. folks, if you want to weigh in on b or c on facebook live, please do so. i want to say c is the lie, because i think that's actually flipped. let's go with b actuallyb actuay

meant c. non-confusing myself. i will have your responses. the parsing letter a or b. people think b is false, but i'm going to say c is false. i think it's two thirds want to get them vaccinated right away and one third thing they will wait. i could be wrong, but that is my bet. >> i wish you were in fact right, but the right answer is b. b is not true. so, yes, the kaiser family foundation shoulder three out of 10 parents said they would asap, right away, get their teens vaccinated. i'm nothing the 3 out of 10 parents are anti-vaccine, there are different reasons for hesitancy, but it's definitely something we need to pay attention to when it comes to communication about that vaccine, which may get the approval as soon as early as next week for 12 to 15-year- olds, and really important to get his kids back to school or summer camp or whatever it is.

a, you saw that headline that i know you know that one. that is great news. remember, even though there's a lot of parents out there that say hey, my kids are not high risk, they've been doing just fine, your kids can absolutely still get sick. so that hospitalized, or they can spread covid-19 to other more high-risk people, we saw this most recently in michigan. the reason b is not true, it's actually two weeks. i was tricky, kristen, you're good at this. the reason i had to throw this in there, remember, with the school year starting and the eua coming for 12 to 15-year- olds, it's something to keep in mind. there are vaccines your teens, your older children may be eligible for, call your dr. , so you can space them out appropriately. if you can't, the risk still i'm sorry, the benefit still vastly outweighs any potential risk. >> serves me right. i should've listened to our viewers on facebook. most went with b. stephanie even weighed in and said, i had to wait two weeks to get my

covid vaccine after another type of vaccination. so, hello, facebook friends. >> stephanie, stephanie is on top of it. >> especially kudos to stephanie. more learning will play take place right now. i want to ask about herd immunity, when a large enough portion of the population becomes immune it makes it hard for the disease to find people to spread to. is that an all or nothing proposition? or can we have degrees of herd immunity? >> i'm so glad, kristen, you worded it that way. it is not all or nothing. when it comes to the effects of herd immunity. as several experts on abc news come around the country have reported, there will be at some point and inflection point. we will get a certain amount of immunity, community immunity if you will, by vaccine or natural cases and you will start to see a really big dip in transmission of the virus. we saw this happen and widely reported on in israel. only 60% of the population was vaccinated. we are starting to see effects of that right now in california. you look at san francisco, about a little bit more than 70%

of people above the age of 16 are vaccinated in la county. it's a little bit more than 50%. we are seeing those numbers start to dip down. obviously, we want to get to the 75% to 80% goal of vaccination to really stamp out transmission to the best of our ability, but it might be a moving target. the summer might change things. variance might change things. member, there's no such thing as localized herd immunity. we want to see it on a national or global level. will talk about this more on the second round of two truths and a lie that we have different vaccination rates across the country. we need to see if we can get those unified. >> if we can get to the 70% or 80%, what does that mean practically? can we start to live differently, like very few restrictions at that point. >> yeah, totally. welcome to the great kind ofdis to look like. on one hand, you know, there are people out there who rightfully are worried about the variance and what could potentially happen with winters urges, if there's pockets on

unactivated on vaccinated individuals. on the other hand, if we get to a place where transmission rate is really low and starting to approach the level of seasonal influenza, it'll be hard to mandate things, like the same types of restrictions, you know, business closures, limited capacity and masks. it'll be hard to justify it at that point. one appointing to look at, as we start to reopen, especially on june 15th, we can look to see in real-time what actually happens with any potential outbreaks, especially given some people are vaccinated optimistic that we are going to be in a good place. >> me too, me too. your ucsf colleagues say hopefully june 15th is when we will be in herd immunity situation in california. i'm not going to get into vaccination rates, differences across the country, because i know you got that with two truths and a lie, because you just told me t? u know, it's kind of driven by headlines i think. even thou were like 7 million shots given

out. but let's say people here blood clots, the fda positive vaccine, now i'm pausing it.'s on people's minds, the vaccine paused cause blood clots. so we need to get the difference of causation and correlation. >> kristen, it's such a battered argument. we've been playing this argument of causation versus correlation for years now. and the hallmark example is with the rise of autism. in this country, and the rise of the amount of vaccinations we have given children. that is, on its own, a correlation. two variables that went up at the same time, or actually modeled themselves at the same time. but it doesn't mean that you were actually related to one another. so it comes to things like blood clots, in the very beginning, there was no causation to fight. the reason why the j&j was paused was it said hey, we are seeing a correlation. we are seeing the number of blood clots being reported.

let's take a step back and see what that actually means and see if it's related. we see this kind of play out in headlines in a very dangerous way. i'm not sure we will get into this in the next point, so i apologize for overstepping. there is a place online, where anyone can report an adverse event or reaction to a vaccine. the vaccine adverse event reporting system. you can report anything you want, and that's important, because we should be documenting these cases, just look back to see if there is something happening. we saw this on fox news, tucker carlson came on site hey, look at all these deaths that have been reported, because of vaccines. that is a jump to causation. here's the thing, if you are vaccinating millions and millions of people, people are still going to be dying from natural causes, from heart disease, from strokes, whatever it may be. you can't immediately say, that is cause from the vaccine. that's how it's being reported, unfortunately. >> okay, one last quickie question before we take a short

break, which of course we can continue to talk on facebook live, that's the big pfizer news today, they initiated their application to the fda for full approval of the covid- 19 vaccine for people 16 and up. what does full approval mean? and why should we care, if it already has emergency approval and we are already getting the shots? >> that's a good question. full approval will actually mean that basically pfizer or any drug manufacturer would have to present more data. so instead of the two months required for, for you know, emergency use authorization, they need six months for the full biological license. vaccine manufacturers command now directly market to consumers. and all of that, it's a bigger stamp of approval to a lot of people out there. i've heard plenty of people say, hey, the emergency use authorization scares us. we want to wait and see. kristen, you and i have seen that as a list of reasons for hesitancy. wait and see for more safety data. more safety data is coming.

we are about to have a lot more of it. and the full fda approval might allow some businesses colleges, hospitals even to feel more comfortable in mandating it for

think if you had covid-19 in the past, you may get a reaction. >> the house distinct you ca be. we're back with abc7 special correspondent dr. alok patel. a lot more to cover, including colleges requiring vaccine this fall. let's get started with another round of two truths and a lie. i have to redeem myself. re i messed up last time. >> all right, tell me which one is not true. e rego, round two. a, three states have already met biden's goal of getting 70% of adults with at least one shot.

poorly worded, but you know what i mean. to be, the world health organization is currently monitoring five covid-19 variants across the globe. or is it c, the current cdc summercamp guidelines allow for kids to take their masks off, only if they are eating or swimming, otherwise they have to keep them on. which one is not true? >> this is hard again. i want to say a is not the answer, because i think that is true, including california, right? i think we have 70% of adults with at least one shot. i've got to think there's at least a couple states, especially the smaller states and it's easier to get to them. i'm going to say b or c once again is the lie. help me out, people on facebook live. ico, kind of evenly split between b and c. but i'm leaning towards b,wards b,wards, lie, because i do think with all the reporting, we can count more than five variants. besides, erica said it was b

and erica is usually right. >> great deductive reasoning. great inductive reasoning. b is actually wrong. w.h.o. is actually moderating 10modera1 variants. the reason i wanted to put this in there, guess what? variants are all over the world. variants are just one flight away, which is why we can't just the inflection point in say we are out of the woods and not expect there to be a potential for winter surge. letter a is true. hampshire, massachusetts, vermont. they have had that 70% goal. on the flipside, other states, tennessee, louisiana, alabama, mississippi, they are around 45%. that's what we were talking about earlier, seeing unified vaccination goal, which we will hopefully get. c raise a lot of criticism, because you know, people were out there saying, how can two and three and four-year-olds be expected to wear a mask outside, nine of the cdc director came out and said hey, vaccinated kids will be exempt from wearing a mask outside, which is again, why does 12 to 15-year-olds are so important

to get their shots. >> and we were talking about during break on facebook live, hopefully in a week and a half, they will be getting those shots, fingers crossed. >> they will be so they can protect our youngest, like this one. >> oh, baby elora. >> she is passed out right now, she had her milk snack, i apologize to our viewers out there, but she wanted to say what's up. >> o, elora, what an angel. she does have immunity against covid-19, right? >> she does. more and more studies are proving she has those antibodies, thanks to her responsible mom. >> okay, that's all we get, that's all we get. we got our fix, thank you. let's dive into, congratulations, again, by the way. let's dive into san francisco's matthew rhule, mostly matches the cdc in say guid but there is some differences with san francisco seemingly a little stricter, at least more specific, give us the key differences. >> the key difference really comes down to being outdoors.

you know, saying if you are outdoors and you are at a large venue, for example, there's a lot of people around you, you still have to stay masks, even if you are vaccinated. kristen, i have to take a step back here. if we look at the variations in mask guidance between the cdc versus what's happening right now in california, and versus florida, for example, it's really hard to get lost in the weeds. i think, regardless of what actually happened, people are going to do whatever they feel comfortable, based on their own individual risk. we have enough data to show us outdoors is safe and if you are vaccinated, you are more than 90% protected, but at the same time, we have seen in other parts of the world, after a pandemic, like stars, people continue to wear masks, seasonally. there's nothing wrong with that. and i suspect that will still be a large cup relation of people wearing masks. but also this upcoming winter season, guess what? wearing a mask during the winter, regardless of your vaccination status or not, can still prevent the spread of

other respiratory illnesses. so i think in some capacity, masks are here to stay, but it will come down to kind of the individual risk phases. >> yeah, yeah. i kind of like not getting the flu or getting the common cold. hey, you talked about other parts of the world, and of course we are watching what's happening in india with about 400,000 daily cases. just devastating. so the debate is raging over whether to waive intellectual property rights for vaccines. the biden administration was leaning towards not waving them, but has now changed their mind and backs the waiver. explain to people what this means. folks, stay with me. when we say intellectual property right, you kind of do not go boring, boring. it's not because it's super important. >> even i go boring, boring. when someone sayse sayse sayse s property rights. every single drug that's improved in the united states, whether it's a drug or vaccine has some type of patent protection. the reason that in place is so that there is an incentive for

innovation? these large manufacturers can say hey, we've got protection on this development, and that'll allow us to pour resources into it and get it to market. and on the flipside, they get to make money off of it. that's how business works and that's what drives along the prophet. now with the vaccine, the reason why there is a controversy right now, is because this would just be a limited waiver, meaningwaiver, g would not, we, the united states would not waive the protection on everything from pfizer and moderna, just the covid-19 vaccine. which is what a lot of nations around the world, i think up to 100, have cited within said hey, we need to waive these protections and let country try to manufacture their own doses. obviously drugmakers are pushing against us and germany came out and said, they don't support this at all. you know, biotech is german, so there might be a little bit of interest protection there. one of the other kind of opposition arguments is hey, giving somebody to group blueprint to make the vaccine is not enough for manufacturing. they need the raw materials and

the actual manufacturing units, the storage, the space to actually get those vaccines out there. so it's a three-part process, most likely. i do think that the majority of the world is siding with waving that, wheezing those patents, limited right now, and we get global exit we equity when it comes to vaccines. it is lacking right now. >> yeah, it is such a tough issue, legitimate argument on both sides right there. both sides right there. okay, california phones offers free specialized phones... like cordless phones, - (phone ringing) - big button, and volume-enhanced phones. get details on this state program. call or visit i have the pleasure to present to you... dr. martin luther king. sometfacing down hate.t it facing down bias. as we step out, bay area, lets step up our march towards social justice

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californians to please get your vaccine as soon as you can, to protect your mother's, your children, your loved ones, and your neighbors. remember, this is not a permanent situation, but a temporary one. >> all right, she also urged families to wear masks when gathering this weekend, but let's ask dr. patel about that. do we need to mask up for mother's day? >> depends on the situation. we know exactly when we do need to mask up, especially if you are in a crowded place, if you are indoors somewhere or if you are mixing household, if one person is not vaccinated. if somebody is high risk, or if it makes you feel more comfortable. i don't think there's any rules about this, just what we know, what we know works and what keeps everyone around us safe. i do hope some people out there are fully vaccinated and they go outside, maybe an outdoor restaurant. they take their masks off. they feel good about it, because the vaccines are working and their effective. the other thing i hope we do is give a slow clap to all mothers out there on sunday, for everything they have tirelessly

put up with and been through over the past year, from you know, taking care of their families to being these impromptu homeschool teachers to juggling everything, to keeping their families insane. i think mothers, more than ever, deserve, you know, a lot of praise this sunday. >> i couldn't agree more. i feel like you peeked out my notes. i wanted to bring up this past year has been so hard on so many moms. dads too, but certainly, you know, many moms lost their jobs. others are being teacher and also working from home. it's been crazy. so treat your mom's right. okay, let me ask you though, if you have next company, next as in some vaccinated, some not, within the large family you are having over, how far apart should you have seats? should you have like a vaccinated table, on vaccinated table, you know? give us some thoughts. >> i would say these regulations actually don't change. this is similar to what we've been talking all year long, we will be indoors, do you have to do your best with that 60

distance. you also might want to have a conversation about this, before you have your mother's day gathering, or try to do it outside. the weather is beautiful. i know it's beautiful, because that's why half of my face is now dark and my lighting has been ruined, it's sunny outside. this is a great reason to go outdoors somewhere, go on the backyard, especially if you are worried about transmission, we know it safer outside. >> okay, how about sharing food, any concern there? >> same concerns there. and again, i have to echo this, especially people that are on vaccinated, do your best to not, you know, share utensils, food, plates, things like that. remember for mother's day, like any other holiday, people might be traveling in town, so pay attention to a community translation looks like elsewhere. if it's local, we have a high vaccination rate. i'm hoping people are able to gather and mostly everyone around you is vaccinated and protected. that's also something to take into account too. we can just act like we haven't made incredible progress since winter, when you and i were less talking about getting

together for the holidays. we made progress. just don't let your guard completely down. we are still in this. >> absolutely. we have about a minute. i want to get to the viewer questions. here's one asking about when do you think we will need the third shot, booster? >> there's nothing definitive yet thing we absolutely do need it, but both pfizer and moderna have been testing it out. moderna came out with great results again different variants. showing the booster did work. we will have to look and see what happens this winter, and projections say possibly 12 months after your first vaccine or your first of two, your two dose series. so depending on how winter goes, we may need those. >> all right, header has a question. she says, last year, dr. fauci said the son killed covid, and that you don't need to wear masks, so why has the science changed? why do we wear masks outside. i don't recall him saying that. >> i don't recall dr. fauci saying the son killed covid, i think what might be completed was there was a thought during

the summertime, because of the heat and humidity, transmission might get lower. it was lower over the summer, but that also might be because of winter, people are gathering indoors and are most likely to be closer together. you know, the difference in the mask recommendations, this brought up a lot the past year and a half, because the science changes. in the very beginning, dr. fauci, the surgeon general, myself, nobody was recommending masks, you know, in february and early march. than the science changed. we saw that they truly work, which is why that changed. guess what? now we are seeing vaccines are safe and effective and the recognitions are changing

>> thank you. >> thank you, take care. copy mother's day to your wife. thank you so much for joining us on this interactive

show today, getting answers. today, we covered all the covid- 19 headlines with our special correspondent dr. alok tonight, several developing stories as we come on the air. fourrin indicted on federal cha for the arrest and death of george floyd. how much time could they potentially face in federal prison? alex perez standing by tonight. news on the coronavirus in the u.s. the new milestone this friday night. one-third of the population now fully vaccinated. and tonight, the major headline involving the pfizer vaccine. and how soon could children 12 to 15 be getting the vaccine? and we're tracking the horrific images now emerging from india tonight. authorities investigating video that shows families finding the bodies of relatives abandoned in the icu. and some staff reportedly fleeing for their