and a happy mother's day to you, ama, and all mothers >> dicky: from hollywood it's "jimmy kimmel live." tonight -- maya rudolph, malcolm gladwell, and music from kings of leon. and now, jimmy kimmel! [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: well, thank you. hi, i'm jimmy, i'm the host of the show. thanks for watching. thank you for joining me for -- [ cheers and applause ] thank you. hour 15 of our live coverage of the nfl draft. and with the 238th pick, the cincinnati bengals select -- guillermo rodriguez. [ cheers and applause ] >> guillermo: oh, yeah! >> jimmy: they had the nfl draft tonight in cleveland. i don't want to sound ungrateful but i thought i'd be picked much higher than i was. [ laughter ]

it's weird that abc has the nfl draft but no nfl. we're like a restaurant that has a menu but no food. [ laughter ] quarterback trevor lawrence from clemson was expected to be picked first by either jacksonville or vidal sassoon. [ laughter ] wow, what a beautiful man, look at that hair. he's like a young giselle bundchen. [ laughter ] look out, tom brady. someone's comin' for that handsome throne. you know, today if you haven't been counting is president biden's 100th day in office. and even his opponents, if they're honest, have to admit he has accomplished a lot in those 100 days. 43% of the population is at least partially vaccinated, the economy is up 6%, and our national level of malarkey has dropped to nearly historic lows. [ laughter ] in trump's first 100 days, he accomplished a lot too. he tweeted that snoop dogg's career was failing, that m's wa and he was a better host of "the apprentice" than arnold schwarzenegger.

but it's hard to compare these two. it's like apples and orange. [ laughter and applause ] thank you. joe biden today took a little stroll with the first lady on the way to marine one. the helicopter. and he stopped and picked up a now are for her. boy, this guy doesn't miss a beat, does he? [ cheers and applause ] cialis commercial.ight out of a- [ laughter ] a dandelion. you know, during the depression, joe used to use dandelions to make soup. that's how they kept his family alive. the only thing trump picked up and gave melania required a shot of penicillin. [ laughter ] biden last night gave his first address before a joint session of congress. it was a hopeful speech. he spoke about turning peril into prosperity. he said "life can knock us down. but in america, we never stay down. in america, we always get up." except for ted cruz who was sound asleep.

during a lot of this. look at him, dreaming of cancun, no doubt. [ laughter and applause ] lyin' ted just turned into snoozin' cruz. but you know who wasn't sleeping last night? the second gentleman, doug emhoff. he was wide awake and very alone. [ laughter ] no dandelions for doug. well, i think, watch this, because i think he just signalled for kamala to steal second base. [ laughter ] after the speech an amazing thing happened, every black republican senator got together to let the american people know the republican party isn't racist. >> by doubling down on the divisions we've worked so hard to heal. you know this stuff is wrong. hear me clearly, america is not a racist country. >> jimmy: and then tim promptly returned to the sensory deprivation egg he calls home. [ laughter ] senator scott accused democrats in his rebuttal of using race as a weapon. when the truth is we're more concerned about people using weapons as a weapon.

race would be a terrible weapon. what would you do, melanin a person to death? [ laughter ] have you been following the feud between kanye and walmart? walmart has filed what's known as a "notice of opposition" to a logo kanye is trying to trademark. walmart claims kanye's logo is "confusingly similar" to their own design. these are the logos in question. kanye's is on the left, walmart's is on the right. basically, kanye and walmart are fighting over who gets to use a doodle of a butthole. right? [ laughter ] can you copyright that? and would it really be so bad for walmart to get their stuff confused with kanye's? a pair of sneakers he owned just sold for $2 million. if i was kanye, i would go further. i would start wearing a blue vest and handing out "welcome" stickers too. [ laughter ] you know, ever since i was a kid there's been something that i always wanted to do, and that is a cartwheel. my little sister could do it

with ease and it drove me crazy. i couldn't do it. it seems like an easy thing that everyone should be able to do. now that i'm in my 50s, it seemed this was the right time to right this wrong. so we got in touch with olympic gold medalist gabby douglas and asked her if she'd be so kind to teach me and guillermo how to do a cartwheel. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: this is where it happens. this is where my cartwheeling career begins, yours too guillermo, we couldn't possibly have a better coach, gabby douglas, how many golds do you have? >> i have three olympic gold medals. >> you've done a cartwheel, then. how old were you when you first -- did you come cartwheeling out of your mother? >> i started at 3 years old. >> jimmy: has anyone ever died doing a cartwheel? >> no.

>> guillermo: we can get hurt, right? >> i don't think so, no. >> jimmy: if anyone can get hurt it's us. >> do you guys want to stretch before we get started? >> guillermo: hold on let me get ready. >> oh my goodness, this is gold right now. >> jimmy: don't tell me you're wearing a cool outfit or else i would have too. [ cheers and applause ] >> guillermo: all right, let's do this. >> jimmy: you got something in there? >> guillermo: what do you mean? >> jimmy: i mean is there some kind of a sock in there? what's going on? >> oh my goodness -- >> guillermo: no. >> jimmy: can i touch it? >> guillermo: yeah, you can touch it. >> jimmy: yeah, there's some padding, his version of a padded bra. >> can we do some butterflies. maybe straight in and pull. >> jimmy: i've never seen the bottom of your feet before. >> guillermo: me neither. >> let's go through the details of a cartwheel, the front leg is really the foundation. and then this leg will just follow. >> jimmy: uh-huh.

>> so it will be, one, two, three, four. like, that action. if that makes sense. [ laughter ] >> guillermo: should i go lose some weight and come back? [ laughter ] >> no, i've seen all people do cartwheels. >> jimmy: we don't have that kind of time. >> guillermo: okay, all right. >> jimmy: give it 110%. >> guillermo: all right. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: okay. so let's evaluate that. let's look at that again in slow motion, if we can, that wasn't slow motion. [ laughter ] >> guillermo: that was slow motion. >> don't want to go down like that. >> jimmy: that's exactly how i'm gonna do it. exactly. let me give it a try. >> guillermo: all right, jimmy. go, jimmy. >> let's go, jimmy. >> jimmy: that was actually worse than guillermo's.

>> guillermo: gobby, if you have plans for today,intoe re all day. >> what jimmy did was start like this. >> jimmy: oh. >> and his energy is already going to go this way or down. >> jimmy: i think we have to conctr >> it is all about artistry as well. >> jimmy: okay, so -- >> that, okay -- that -- okay, you went like this, but then you go down here and that arm's like -- >> jimmy: oh. >> left out of the loop. unless you want to go one arm? >> guillermo: no, i'm going to break my arm, too heavy. >> jimmy: she puts her hand down and then the leg. that's where we fail. i think we're really good for the first 3% of the cartwheel. [ laughter ] it's the e? okay -- >> jimmy: i'm not kicking over. >> yeah. >> jimmy: yeah. i'll tell you right now, there's

no chance i'll be able to do this. >> no, you have to. for your siblings. >> jimmy: give it a shot. >> guillermo: i'll give it a shot. >> like -- go. okay, yes. it's there. the back leg just needs to follow through. >> guillermo: gee. >> it's just that. >> jimmy: yeah. >> think about not reaching for the ground, if that makes sense. because you're like, so -- >> jimmy: yeah, should we reach for the stars? >> reach for the air. >> jimmy: artistry, guillermo. let's do it together. >> guillermo: ready, one, two, three -- let's go. [ laughter ] >> you know what's funny, that was so in sync. you guyed rolled together. >> jimmy: well, we have chemistry, we work together a lot. >> that was, like, amazing actually. >> jimmy: you're saying if there

was a synchronized cartwheel event -- >> you would have won gold just now. >> guillermo: so should we stop? >> jimmy: no. artistry. >> oh my goodness. maybe i can swing your leg over. >> guillermo: okay. i did it, right? >> jimmy: yeah, you did it. >> it has to be from the stomach -- >> jimmy: keep just trying it, right? artistry and cartwheel. i thought of something. artistry is what we'll call it from now on. >> guillermo: all right. jimmy, you almost got it. >> jimmy: really? >> guillermo: almost got it. it looked good, right? >> jimmy: he just wants to go home. ♪ >> almost. almost. ♪

>> jimmy: i like the presentation. ♪ >> oh, my goodness. ♪ >> yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah! go, it's all -- no -- it's almost -- ♪ wait -- >> guillermo: yeah! >> it's almost -- >>. >> jimmy: let's bow to each other first like it's karate or something like that. new artistry. and now cartistry. ♪ >> guillermo: you did it, jimmy! >> jimmy: we did it, guillermo. >> guillermo: good job, yeah!

>> jimmy: that was my best one. >> guillermo: that was the best one. >> jimmy: thanks, guys. >> guillermo: that was the best one and i don't think it's going to happen again. i think we are done. thank you! thank you, gabby. >> jimmy: oh, are you ending this now? >> guillermo: thank you, jimmy. well, there you have it, everybody. you can do cartwheels, doesn't matter if you're a kid, older, you can do cartwheels at any age. thank you very much. >> jimmy: that's a great lesson, he's right. thank you, gabby. gabby douglas. >> you guys did so amazing. you guys did -- >> jimmy: oh, thank you. thank you, gabby, i appreciate it. >> such a good job. >> guillermo: gabby, i'm going to be okay. >> so nice, so nice. bye, guys! [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: special thanks to gabby douglas. you see? it's a great lesson. when you set your mind to something -- well. nothing happens. [ laughter ] anyway, we have a great show for you tonight. malcolm gladwell is with us.

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music from jason aldean, anitta, amethyst kiah and middle kids. and tomorrow night, join me and my pal, mark rober, for a special live event called "color is spectrum." it's a livestream to support the autism community, raising money for next for autism. here's the list of luminaries who will join us. guillermo, you will be there. >> guillermo: yes, sir. >> jimmy: and that's it. [ laughter ] no, there's more. no, it's guillermo, adam sandler, chris rock, jon stewart, conan o'brien, stephen colbert, charlize theron, kenan thompson, jack black, andy samberg, paul rudd, jason momoa, sarah silverman, zach galifianakis as well as some of the most popular stars of youtube all in one show. that's streaming live tomorrow night starting at 8:00 eastern, 5:00 pacific on mark rober's youtube channel. [ cheers and applause ] so please join us. our first guest tonight will be there too. she is one of the funniest human beings of all on saturdays. she serves as occasional vice president of the united states. next she goes head-to-head with a robot apocalypse and social

media in the new animated movie "the mitchells vs. the machines." it's on netflix now, say hello to maya rudolph. [ cheers and applause ] hi maya, how are you? >> i'm good. >> jimmy: it's very good to see you. >> it's nice to see you, it's nice to be in your studio, you've really done a great job. >> jimmy: wait, you're not in our -- >> what? >> jimmy: our studio does look nicer and i like that dress you're wearing, would that prevent you from doing a cartwheel? are you able to do a cartwheel? >> let me try right now. yep. i did it. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: it was really good. >> thank you. yours was beautiful. >> jimmy: the last time you were on the show i was not here. will arnett was the host of the show. >> oh, i remember you were not there, that i do remember. yeah. last time it was weird because i actually got a bee sting that day and i thought, yeah, i'm fine, i'll go to work and i got there and will and everyone's

like, you should get that checked out. it was like a huge, red, swollen arm, which i did and i got antibiotics, apparently i am allergic to bees. >> jimmy: you didn't know. you'd never been stung by a bee before? >> when i was a kid, but i thought it was one of those things when you're a kid, like i think i'm allergic to bees, i don't know. then trying to be a tough guy, like, i got a show to do, it was really important, i had to race off and do your show. >> jimmy: the show must go on. that's right. >> yeah, the show must go on. >> jimmy: even though i skipped mine. [ laughter ] >> yeah. >> jimmy: have you been bitten by an insect before, i know you said it was your first bee sting. >> that was really it, i never had a reaction before. i ended up going on a girl's trip the next day for my buddy's anna gastair's 50th, me and all my "snl" ladies went out to palm springs and went to this beautiful place, we all got massages.

and they took me to a glass house pagoda, a little too far down the road. i got a massage and i got up, wow, my leg's killing me, what's that black spider on the bed? the guy's like, oh, it's a black widow. so the next day i got bit by a black widow. >> jimmy: do you have powers or anything? >> yeah, i have powers. i don't know what happened or why, but apparently no one had used the room in like 100 years. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: terrific. >> that's where they took me for my massage, yeah. >> jimmy: your collar actually looks like the markings on a black widow, that's why i thought maybe you'd attained some powers --ou saying i have sort of witchery? [ laughter ] >> jimmy: what do you do when you -- we hear about blacked by eddowes. what do you do hen you get bit? >> apparently, call the paramedics, which was news to me, so that helped me relax completely. [ laughter ] at that point, great, i'm going to die. good news was i was with the

funniest women on the planet. >> jimmy: who were you with? >> i was with amy poehler, was saying to my friend, the minute something like that happens, everyone goes into panic mode and really reflects their personality. so amy went into like, the paramedic was saying you're going to need do good to the emergency room she's like, you don't need to go to the emergency room. tina fey was there and she was like, i'm just going to call my husband in the other room, i'll be back, and gently panicked on the phone in the other room. rachel just got in the shower, i don't know. [ laughter ] do you care if i take a shower? and paula pell was stroking me and gently cradling me and anna gaspar was like you're gonna be fine, you know what you're going to be fine. i think my buddy emily just started drinking champagne. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: okay. so was amy the best, because it

seems like no one really helped. >> she did help. she did help. we did not go to the emergency room. she's like, you don't need to go to the emergency room. it was a lot of like, these aren't the droids you're looking for. [ laughter ] it was helpful because you need that person in crisis who's gonna have your back. >> jimmy: could you imagine if you guys all went into the emergency room, the looks on their faces at the hospital, it would have seemed like you were shooting a movie or something. [ laughtr ] >> yeah, pretty much. >> jimmy: i'll tell you another thing about that whole emergency room thing, i think at least half of that is whether the group wants to go to the emergency room or not. because someone's going to have to go with you if you go, right? >> yeah, amy didn't want to go to the emergency room. >> jimmy: right, right. [ laughter ] >> we had a -- a reservation at a restaurant, so we decided to do that. [ laughter ] i think the bee sting kind of saved my life. so, i don't know.

i think because i had the bee sting the day before i had the antibiotics, saved my life, so i just did a lot of drinking that weekend and i was fine. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: yeah. and what do you guys do, besides getting the usual massages and eating and drinking? do you have activities? physical activities? what's going on? >> there were planned activities. we did one in wine country which we ended up making the basis for a movie we all did together. >> jimmy: right, that's a great -- yeah. >> yeah, it was based on that trip -- i got bitten by a snake in that version. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: oh! >> and we -- oh, we actually had a tarot card reader who was cranky and mean and hated us by the name of granny rainbow. she was a real delight. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: granny rainbow. >> granny rainbow did not care for us. she was not the warmest. you would have thought from the yelp review and her name -- her yelp review was probably 35 years old. >> jimmy: did you find her on

yelp? >> i think someone did. they thought, oh -- granny rainbow, this will be a real kick. she got there, she was judgmental and irritable and didn't like when it we sort of didn't take the whole thing seriously, a real hoot. >> jimmy: you would think when you're name's granny rainbow maybe things wouldn't be taken so seriously when you show up. >> you would think. right? maybe that's the catch. she's like, i know how to piss people off, i'll call myself granny rainbow, then i'll just be a complete [ bleep ]. [ laughter and applause ] >> jimmy: you have two of the most happiest pleasant words in the english language, one would be granny, and one would be rainbow. >> yeah, it's not like she was like, old dump truck eyes. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: guillermo, grab the phone, go on yelp, see if you can find "old dump truck eyes." maya rudolph is with us, her movie "the mitchells vs. the machines", we'll be right back.

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family yoga break! >> they're just so perfect, even their dog is in better shape than ours. what are they feeding this thing, other dogs? >> don't worry, they're jealous of us, right? i see you moping, but what if your college could possibly be better than this? >> we set up a slip 'n slide at the dorms, this is amazing! this is the best day of my life! >> i'm missing everything. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: those were the voices of denny mcbride, abbie jacobson and maya rudolph who with us in the new movie "the mitchells vs. the machines." do you look at rotten tomatoes when you have a movie coming out? >> every night.

no, i don't, i don't look at it. >> jimmy: you have 100% top critics. [ cheers and applause ] >> that's amazing. i usually read the rotten tomatoes reviews to the children at night. wow. no joke. that's amazing. it's a great movie. it deserves that. that's good, right. when you get 100 rotten tomatoes, that is a good thing? >> jimmy: no, you want to get 100%, but it's 100% fresh. if you get 100% tomatoes, that's a bad thing. >> you don't want tomatoes thrown at you, got it. >> jimmy: never, especially if they're rotten. this movie is about robots taking over the earth, which i welcome, by the way. [ laughter ] i feel like, give them a chance to do it because we're not doing such a great job of it. >> you have a point, yeah. >> jimmy: the ill-effects of social media, is that correct? >> that's correct. and it's nice, you know, when we first started making the movie the word apocalypse was not a normal word i liked to use in

front of my children. but when i explained to them what the movie was about, about this family on a road trip that ends in a robot apocalypse they're like, "oh, yeah, we get it." [ laughter ] pretty much similar to the vibe we're experiencing. >> jimmy: yeah. >> but it's actually a really lovely movie because it's a really abnormal family, it's a great, weird family, and there's a lot of imperfections. and yeah, social media has been such an amazing part of all of our lives, you know. >> it's funny, i think we all know it's bad for us and we just keep on consuming it. doesn't matter how much we know. >> yeah. especially as a parent. we have to use our phones, for example, to, you know, keep up with things, check our e-mails at the same time we're telling our children to get off their devices and we're on ours and we look like complete hypocrites. >> jimmy: yeah. >> it's a large part of all our lives. >> jimmy: yeah. >> and i agree with you, i think the robots might have something on us.

i think we might need some help. >> jimmy: yeah, my roomba is plotting against me. [ laughter ] i notice something's up in the middle of the night. speaking of movies that maybe are harbingers of the future, the movie "idiocracy" is a movie that you were in. [ applause ] dax shepard, terry crews, luke wilson i think. a movie that mike judge wrote and directed. it was done on obviously a shoestring budget but now you look at that movie, i remember enjoying it when it came out, how long ago did that movie come out, that movie? >> someone said 15 years ago. >> jimmy: it's crazy. >> right. >> terry crews, a wrestler who became president of the united states. >> president camacho, the best. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: now we have -- we just had a president who was in the wwe hall of fame. [ laughter ] >> that's the thing, you know. i showed the movie to my kids. >> jimmy: you did? >> when the movie was coming

out, i'm sorry, during this past election, not this past election, but the one where -- you know. >> jimmy: yeah. >> you know who was elected. >> yeah. >> we were all showing the movie thinking, isn't this funny? it's like real life, yeah, laughing thinking it was funny. then it just wasn't funny. [ laughter ] he got elected. it was a little too real. and yeah, i showed it to my kids, they were kind of like, okay, that's a nice documentary. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: one of the things in the movie was crocs which were a brand new thing back then. >> that's funny because when we were making the movie the costume designer was saying, oh, i had to get this new shoe, it's like this plastic shoe and everybody -- because the movie is about dumb-dumbs in the future. >> jimmy: yeah. >> and how dumb everybody's getting, so all these dummies in the future are just wearing this shoe that makes your foot look like barney rubble. [ laughter ] i was like, this is a weird, dumb shoe, this is so dumb. now i have many pairs.

[ laughter ] i think they're already back. i have strawberry crocs, i dress the children in crocs, the dogs are in crocs. crocs are taking over the world. >> jimmy: maya, thank you for being with us. we'll be together tomorrow night, part of our "color the spectrum" benefit on mark rober's youtube channel. so i will see you then, "the mitchells vs. the machines" is on netflix now. time to watch it.idnight, it's - thank you, maya rudolph, everybody! [ cheers and applause ] be right back with malcolm gladwell! >> dicky: portions of "jimmy kimmel live" brought to you by charmin's brb bot. when you need to enjoy the go but don't want anyone to know. but lowering my a1c with once-weekly ozempic® helped me get back in it. ♪ oh, oh, oh, ozempic® ♪ my zone? lowering my a1c and losing some weight.

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[ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> jimmy: welcome back, music from kings of leon is on the way. our next guest is a hugely successful author and podcaster with six "new york times" bestsellers. his latest is both an immersive audiobook and a hardcover regular book, "the bomber mafia" is available now. please say hello to malcolm gladwell. [ cheers and applause ] hey, malcolm. >> hey, jimmy. >> jimmy: how you doing? >> very well, how about you? >> jimmy: i'm doing well, i feel weird holding up the book because the book is a book but the experience of listening to this, i don't think calling it

an audio book really even explains what it is. because it is this combination of radio drama, narrated book also with real first-person interviews mixed in and sound effects and music and everything. it's very interesting. >> oh, it's, yeah, this is -- we're really excited about this. we've been doing projects like this with this audio company, bushkin industries. this is the first fully immersive one we've done. i discovered there's all this incredible tape of these generals from the second world war at maxwell air force base. it's a treasure trove. i realized i could tell this weird story about these guys in the air force back in the 1930s and you could hear all their voices, i wasn't describing like an abstract thing, it's like they're sitting with you, explaining their ideas, dreams and hopes. >> jimmy: wow. explain what the bomber mafia was.

>> it was a group of incredibly idealistic young pilots in montgomery, alabama in the 1930s who fell in love with bombing and thought they could reinvent war. they thought they could -- you could fight a war without killing hundreds of thousands of people. that you could make every other part of the military obsolete and just use bombers and drop them with such precision that you wouldn't have to have battles on battlefields and you wouldn't have to kill a lot of civilians. they did a exercise that they imagined could you take out new york city with 14 bombs, and the answer was, they felt you could. do the aqueducts, power grids and bridges -- >> jimmy: don't say it aloud. [ laughter ] >> don't give anybody any ideas, yes. >> jimmy: that was quite some time ago. it's really amazing to find a story like this from world war ii which has been mined so much,

there's a whole history channel, all of these books, all of this stuff. and somehow you find this story that is an amazing story and really upsetting when you really listen to the details and you hear these people, who were -- well, talk about japan and that mission and why it was so unusual and devastating. >> well, the book is about the story leading up to what i call the longest night of the war, which was when the u.s. air force attacked tokyo with b-29 bombers filled with napalm and burned 16 square miles of tokyo to the ground in one night, incinerating 40,000 to 50,000 people. it's one of the deadliest nights in human history. i wanted to understand. i went to tokyo. i went to this tiny museum on a side street that was commemorated to that night. i went there almost randomly and

realized i wanted to understand, how did we get to the point where american bombers dropped napalm on tokyo and incinerated 50,000 people in one night? that's where the genesis of this sory was. and it's -- it is -- it is the strangest, weirdest, most upsetting, but also fascinating, because the characters involved are just these extraordinary people. like curtis the may, hayward hansel, a dutch genius who invented the analog computer -- >> jimmy: the characters in the book are certainly american heroes are also nutty, a little bit, right? >> oh, my favorites. hayward hansel, kind of the hero of the book, is so obsessed with bombing. he has a young family, he's never at home, goes home to have dinner with his wife for the first time in months. in the middle of the dinner he hears a sound, what's that noise? she goes, "that's your son, he's crying."

if you feel guilty about not being home enough? you need to look at hayward hansel, he'll make you feel better. >> jimmy: what's that noise, that's something. i think people should listen to the audiobook. my inclination is usually to grab the hardcover but i think the way to go is the audiobook. >> go to bombermafia.com. it's waiting to be downloaded. >> jimmy: are you working on your new season of podcasts right now? >> oh, yes, i am. you know what i'm doing. >> jimmy: what are you doing? >> the signature of "this season in revisionist history," three episodes, three, jimmy, on the little mermaid. the cinematic dumpster fire that is "the little mermaid." in which i tear that movie to shreds and show the world how to make it better. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: wait a minute, three episodes about "the little mermaid"? >> i have more time on the little mermaid than the little mermaid, the little mermaid is 80 minutes i do an hour and half, two hours on little mermaid. i totally lose my mind, totally lose my mind. [ laughter ]

>> jimmy: when did you fashion this grudge against the little mermaid? >> i never watched it as a kid. i didn't watch any disney movie, i'm also old, it came out when i was like a grown man. and it happened -- i met this sociologist, the most hilarious person. she wrote this article on what was wrong -- she watched it with her kids and she was like, all right, i'm going to give you a little version -- she's also a lawyer -- about what goes wrong in this movie. she's so brilliant and hilarious, i'm like, i've got to watch this movie for myself. i watch it. oh my god this movie is terrible! not only terrible, the whole last third of it as complete outrage, it violates so many moral principles. [ laughter ] so i go to the point where, do you know who brit marley the brilliant screenwriter and actress -- >> jimmy: no, but i'm going to pretend i do. >> she rewrote the ending of that movie.

we perform it in episode 3. [ laughter ] and when you hear her version of how it ought to end, you will never watch that movie the same way again. >> jimmy: oh, wow. [ cheers and applause ] >> i know you're part of the disney empire, jimmy. >> jimmy: i am. >> i know you are. they're upstairs watching this right now, iker and all those guys, and they're probably trying to cut me off. [ laughter ] fingers on the button. >> jimmy: you'll be lucky to be alive by morning, that's for sure. >> i'm dissing the ip of the disney company on a disney show. >> jimmy: yeah. >> this is -- i mean -- i'm going to be in trouble. >> jimmy: wow, i now have to watch that again. with my kids, i look on it, okay, yeah, right, whatever is going on in there. but you're saying this is the movie that upsets you more than anything else. >> nothing, nothing has made me so angry as when i watched that movie. [ laughter ] i was like, it gets to the end, i mean, just to give you a flavor of this.

what does -- it turns into a vigilante movie. it's like a -- like a clint eastwood movie from the '70s. prince eric, what does he do to ursula, the sea witch? he murders her at the end. he takes the law into his own hands. >> jimmy: yeah. [ laughter ] >> that's a lesson -- that's really the lesson we want to be eltelling our 6-year-old daughters? the way to resolve conflict is to get a handsome prince to murder everyone in our life we don't like. [ laughter ] i haven't scratched the surface. i go on for hours. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: i'm going to listen to all of the hours. [ cheers and applause ] i look forward to that. malcolm gladwell, his book, "the bomber mafia" is available on audio and hardcover now. he will not be going to disneyland. [ laughter ] thanks for joining us, malcolm, good to see you. we'll be right back with music from kings of leon. [ cheers and applause ]

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