for all of us here, we appreciate your time. they >> dicky: from hollywood, it's "jimmy kimmel live"! tonight -- wanda sykes, max minghella, and music from mod sun featuring avril lavigne. and now, jimmy kimmel! [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: hi. thank you. hi, i'm jimmy, i'm the host of the show. thanks for watching. we are coming to you from hollywood, the most gam russ place in the world. and this is a big night here in our studio. a notable night. you know, when the pandemic started, i spent months telling jokes in my kitchen to no one. my audience was a vitamix. [ laughter ] and then we finally got back in-studio last fall. and since then, because we can't let anybody in, i've been crew, the people who work here, many of which have made it clear that they've had enough of me. [ laughter ]

i have not been in front of a "real" audience for 427 days. we figured it out. but that streak ends tonight because even though we aren't allowed to fill the place yet, we did get permission to bring in one person. and so please welcome that one person. our first-gen win studio audience member in 14 months. there he is right there. [ cheers and applause ] >> he, although, hi, jimmy! i'm here, i'm here! [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: you're real! >> thank you, thank you, thank you. >> jimmy: okay. now the studio audience is getting more applause than the host. [ laughter ] what is your name? >> i'm james lott jr. >> jimmy: they told you you had to wear a mask? >> they did. >> jimmy: all right, that doesn't make it as much fun. tell us a little about yourself, i had a birthday two days ago, i am 52 years old. >> jimmy: how nice, happy birthday. [ cheers and applause ] we're close to the same age. what do you do for work? >> i'm a professional organizer.

>> jimmy:age organizer? like barack obama, or put things in the right place organizer? >> put things in the right place. >> jimmy: okay, all right. you're crazy what is you're telling me. [ laughter ] >> yes, exactly, exactly. i like things -- things really do work in order when you have thing in order. >> jimmy: you don't have to sell me, look how neat everything is here. [ laughter ] enjoy the show. if you don't, it's going to be a very long hour for me. [ cheers and applause ] >> glad to be here, jimmy. >> jimmy: i'll be directing everything right at you. have you heard about the -- james, have you heard about the gas shortage? [ laughter ] there is one. >> yes, i have. i have. >> jimmy: apparently they're running out of gas after a group of hackers shut down the biggest pipeline in the united states. the colonial pipeline. they hit it with one of those ransomware attacks causing shortages across the southeast. one couple in alabama decided, all right, there's a shortage, we better stock up. and so they just filled tank after -- either that or they're

planning to have one hell of a gender reveal party, i don't know. [ laughter ] people are now hoarding gasoline to the point where the u.s. consumer products safety commission had to issue this warning. "do not fill plastic bags with gasoline." [ laughter ] people actually have to be told not to put gasoline in sandwich bags. that's dumb. but the dumbest thing is the only reason there's a shortage is because people are panic-buying gas, which is creating a shortage. they tried to assure people there's no cause for alarm, but nothing alarms people like being told there's no cause for alarm. [ laughter ] "no cause for alarm? my god, get the kids in the bunker!" this is another strange detail. the hackers behind the cyber attack are a group of russians who call themselves "darkside." they issued an apology. they said their goal wasn't to create problems for society, we're just trying to make money. [ laughter ] are we sure they aren't an oil company? [ laughter ] it seems like they'd get along well. anyway, the pipeline is back up and running now, so if you drive

a tesla you will not have the opportunity to look down on others this weekend. [ laughter ] this was something. in washington, republicans today voted to remove liz cheney from her spot as their third highest ranking member of the house. i never thought i'd be pro-cheney in any way. [ laughter ] but it has happened. but she was removed, basically for telling the truth. she gave an impassioned speech on the floor of the house last night. which was empty because all her colleagues left. she said republicans must speak the truth and that the election was not stolen. so she had to go. you can't have republicans going around saying biden won the election. people might get the right idea. [ laughter and applause ] lifrs cheney was one of very few republicans who voted to impeach trump for his role in the capitol.6th attack on the - she has been outspoken in her criticism. and so house minority leader kevin mccarthy initiated a vote to have her removed. i'm confused. i thought these guys hated "cancel culture."

aren't they the ones that -- >> right, right. >> jimmy: thank you, james. [ laughter ] everyone else, watch james over here action all right? [ laughter ] of course donald trump celebrated on his website today. "liz cheney is a bitter, horrible human being. i watched her yesterday and realized how bad she is for the republican party. she has no personality or anything good having to do with politics or our country." do you think he has these prewritten, and just fills in the names like mad libs? [ laughter ] then another statement. the republicans in the house have a great opportunity today to rid themselves of a poor leader, a major democrat talking point, a warmonger, and a person with absolutely no personality or heart. as a representative of the great state of wyoming, liz cheney is bad for our country and bad for herself." [ laughter ] can you be bad for yourself? what other option is there? [ laughter ] and why are the republicans so

afraid of donald trump? they're the ones giving him power by pulling stunts like this. but liz cheney is not backing down. she said today she will do everything she can "to ensure that the former president never again gets anywhere near the oval office." she's used to this. her dad was a dick too. [ laughter ] plauds applause [ applause ] but this tells you everything you need to know about the republican party. not only are they trying to gloss over the fact that trump incited the riot on the capitol, quite clearly. some are now questioning whether there even was an insurrection at all. there was a hearing in the house today about the attack on january 6th, during which several lawmakers attempted to rewrite history. but none more so than georgia representative andrew clyde. >> there were some rioters and some who committed acts of vandalism, but let me be clear. there was no insurrection, and to call it an insurrection, in my opinion, is a bold-faced lie. watching the tv footage of those who entered the capitol and

walked through statute water hall showed people in an orderly fashion standing through the stanchions and ropes taking videos and pictures. if you didn't know the tv footage was video from january 6th, you would think it was a normal tourist visit. [ laughter and moans ] >> jimmy: says the man wearing a cross-body bag. let's take a look that "normal tourist visit" here. [ screaming ] >> jimmy: right, yes. just a normal visiting group of tourists crushing police officers and urinating on nancy pelosi's computer. again, that was andrew clyde, an leaked official, who doesn't know the difference between terrorism and tourism. maybe he mispronounced it, i don't know. [ laughter ] here in california, caitlyn jenner is running for governor. last night, we shared a clip from cnn in which caitlyn, who i guess doesn't want to admit she voted for trump, told dana bash of cnn that she didn't vote in the election last year. she said she played golf instead. well, turns out, they checked, she did vote. voting is a matter of public record, "politico" dug it up and

she voted. what a weird thing to lie about. to say that you didn't vote when you did. [ laughter ] caitlyn was reportedly embarrassed about the lie, she tried to hide in a women's bathroom, but no republicans would let her in. [ cheers and applause ] very sad. tiktok, the social media platform all the kids love so much, they're testing out a program that will allow companies to recruit potential employees. which is weird. can you imagine trying to get a job through tiktok? >> hi. i'm doug lawson. i've worked in the aerospace industry for the last 13 years, most recently at mcdonnell douglas. and -- ♪ [ laughter ] i'm a hard worker, committed, and let's get this break don't be a busy bitch because i'm not social cringe don't call me because hire me it's different and that's no cat pimp yeet ♪

please hire me, i'm looking in the back of my brother-in-law's t-shirt shop. hi, i'm doug lawson -- >> jimmy: oh, i think we got it, doug, all right. [ applause ] james, you see what's happening, people are trying to find jobs through tiktok. >> any place you can go. >> jimmy: we hired an actor to make that. [ laughter ] what do you think so far? you enjoying the monologue? >> very clever, very clever. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: thank you. james, i hope you don't mind me asking. you're vaccinated, right? >> i am fully vaccinated. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: okay, good. more than 158 million americans have had one dose of the vaccine. but there are still plenty of us who need convincing. i'm not sure what it was about the last 14 months that didn't convince everyone, but nothing makes sense anymore. the idea that a year ago there would be anybody who didn't want the vaccine, as panicked as we were, is mind boggling to me.

so from time to time we like to remind ourselves of what was, with a look back at what was going on in the news exactly one year ago in another edition of "this week in covid history." >> this week in covid history, it's mid-may 2020 and america is hosting a grand reopening. >> we're opening and we're starting and there's enthusiasm like i haven't seen in a long time. >> but surprise, surprise, dr. grouchy disagrees. >> i feel if that occurs, there is a real risk that you will trigger an outbreak. >> why don't you clam up, tony baloney? >> is tony fauci right about the science? do we have any particular reason to think he is right? >> yeah, what reason would we have to listen to this know it all? oh, right. then who cares? the president knows why the numbers are up. >> the reason we have more cases is because we have more testing. we've done a great job. when you test, you have a case. when you test, you find something is wrong. if we didn't do any testing, we would have very few cases.

>> right. the testing is out of control. >> why does that matter, with everyday americans still losing their lives? >> maybe that's a question you should ask china. >> why are you saying that to me specifically? >> i'm saying it to anybody who would ask a nasty question like that. >> that's not a nasty question -- >> please go ahead. >> speaking of nasty, keep your thoughts to yourselves. >> former president barack obama has described donald trump's absolute chaotic disaster. an - >> not according to the first lady of kentucky. >> i think president obama should have kept his mouth shut. i think it's a ltle bit classless, frankly, to critique an administration that comes after you. >> yeah, what kind of no-class clown would do that? >> joe biden has had the most disastrous first month of any president in modern history. >> oh, donald, you catty bitch. this has been "this week in covid history." [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: all right. we've got a good show for you

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[ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> jimmy: hi, welcome back to the show. tonight, from the scary new movie "spiral: from the book of saw," max minghella is here. [ applause ] then later, a couple of talented singers who happen to be a talented couple, together their song is called "flames," music from mod sun & avril lavigne. [ cheers and applause ] tomorrow night -- this will be fun. chris rock and samira wiley will join us, and music from morray. will you be back tomorrow, james?

>> if you'll have me, sure. >> jimmy: maybe you should come back every night, right? [ cheers and applause ] >> i'm here for you, jimmy! >> jimmy: you're going to have to quit your job. [ laughter ] but it will be okay, it will be fine. our first guest tonight is one of the funniest people on the globe. she has been in seclusion. she is now fully vaccinated and ready to roll with a new comedy series on netflix called "the upshaws." please welcome wanda sykes! [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> jimmy: how you doing? >> wow! >> jimmy: very happy to see you in the flesh. >> it's good to see you too, jimmy. >> jimmy: i've seen you quite a few times -- >> do i have to -- i don't know -- >> jimmy: you don't have to yell, there's no reason to yell. [ laughter ] >> i haven't done this in a while. >> jimmy: human interaction is

confusing now, isn't it? >> it's crazy. >> jimmy: i know you're vaccinated, i know i'm vaccinated. then you come out, we can't really -- but we could touch each other if we wanted to, right? >> hm -- >> jimmy: would it set a terrible example? [ laughter ] >> why risk it? >> jimmy: that's right. oh, all right, okay. >> we -- i don't need to touch you. [ laughter and applause ] >> jimmy: how you doing? are you happy to be out? >> i am. oh my god. very happy to be out. >> jimmy: is this your first time out? >> yes. yeah. yeah, i -- i haven't been in studio since -- yeah, since we finished up the "upshaws." that was back in november. but this is the first time actually doing a show. >> jimmy: oh, yeah. it's nice to have these giant lights over our heads, isn't it wonderful? [ laughter ] really brightens things up. >> yeah, and audience member? that's great. >> wanda, whoo! >> jimmy: yeah, that's james. >> thank you. [ applause ] >> jimmy: he's an organizer. are you an organized person?

>> no, not at all. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: maybe you need james? >> no, we need james here, he's exactly where he needs to be. [ applause ] >> thank you. >> jimmy: we're giving him away. i know you got on a plane to be here tonight. >> right yeah. >> jimmy: which is a big deal? >> it was huge. and i realized, like on the way to the airport, i had to ask alex, i was like, wait a minute. okay, i'm allowed a carry-on and one personal item, right? she looked at me like, you really have forgotten how to do this? [ laughter ] i'm like, yeah, okay, does the -- okay, i got it. i take my laptop out and my shoes on? she said, you have tsa precheck. oh, yeah, yeah, i forgot about that. [ laughter ] then i get on the plane. of course i do the -- even though i'm vaccinated i do the mask and the face shield. >> jimmy: oh, face shield too. >> oh, i double up. and i have my glasses on, so i look like a complete idiot. i had three layers of eye protection, you know. and so i was talking -- so i get on the plane, whatever.

i'm taking care of my space. the guy next to me, "i'm fully vaccina vaccinated." me too, but i continue to wipe down my area. [ laughter ] clorox wipes, i was wiping down everything, the flight attendant, i'm like, come here! [ laughter ] i wiped everything down. >> jimmy: yeah, well you know what, it couldn't hurt to wipe everything down. i know people, in fact, one of the people about eight feet from us, wiping everything down way before covid happened. [ laughter ] yeah, just wiping things down all the time. >> see, i didn't -- i wasn't like that before covid. i was a hand washer, but i wasn't like wiping everything down. >> jimmy: same here. i don't wipe anything down. >> i was like -- at the bowling alley, just -- you know. [ laughter ] i licked my ball for good luck, you know. [ laughter ] that wasn't a good idea. >> jimmy: we did go to a bowling alley for my son's birthday. we went, small family gathering at the bowling alley a couple of weeks ago. were able to bowl, but none of

the video games were turned on, they didn't want kids touching the things. yet we're all not only touching the bowling balls, we're wearing a stranger's shoes, yeah. [ laughter ] but you can't get covid through the feet. >> is that what it is? >> jimmy: that's what dr. fauci says, there's no way to get it through the feet. [ laughter ] >> oh, bam. probably because our feet are in such bad shape right now. you're like, haven't had a pedicure in a year and a half. so i think when i finally get my feet done, like the technician will probably have to wear one of those "hurt locker" suits. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: did you have a thing for mother's day? with the kids? >> yeah, yeah. oh, man, jimmy. we have moved up. the kids this year actually bought us gifts. they didn't make anything. >> jimmy: oh, wow. that's big. >> that's huge. >> jimmy: how old are they? >> there's 12. they just turned 12. >> jimmy: you have twins, 12 years? >> yeah. >> jimmy: 12 is the age at which they start buying stuff? >> they bought us some gifts. >> jimmy: what did they get you? >> i got a mug that said "love

is love." i'm pretty sure that was probably held over from prior or something. [ laughter and applause ] >> jimmy: right. >> a set of pajamas. >> jimmy: nice, all right. >> yeah, nice. very nice. >> jimmy: that's a good gift. >> yeah. it's cute. >> jimmy: do you find when you have twins, do you think you get cheated in the gift department? i wonder, they can go in on every gift. right? i mean, are they getting you twice the value that you would get if you had kids of spaced-out ages? >> let's be honest, it's our money anyway. [ laughter and applause ] you know. >> jimmy: they didn't use their own stash? p>> no no. >> jimmy: no. >> not at all. >> jimmy: when i was a kid, we saw a mop on tv and asked my mom for her credit card number so we could buy her the mop. and i don't know that she's ever been more upset with us than she was then. [ laughter ] >> awful. >> jimmy: that's what you think of me, you want to buy me a mop with my own credit card? [ laughter ]

oh, you know what? >> that's awful. >> jimmy: last time we were talking about your mom. >> uh-huh. >> jimmy: who, as i recall, was itching to get back to the slot machines. >> oh, yeah. >> jimmy: did that happen? >> oh, yeah. >> jimmy: it did happen. >> they made a trip. they made a trip to the casino. they had a good time, she had a good time. >> jimmy: she did? >> very excited about it. >> jimmy: does that mean she won? >> we don't talk like that. [ laughter ] we can't have that conversation. that's too much information. i just want her to have a good time. >> jimmy: i see. if she loses, does she still have a good time? >> she gets a little salty. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: she does, yeah. >> but we don't talk about it. >> jimmy: do you go with her? >> you know what that's her world. >> jimmy: i see. >> like -- i'll go, but i like go off and do my thing, let her -- let her shine, lit her have her moment. >> jimmy: did she take you to bingo when you were a kid ever? >> no. this gambling thing took off as she got older. >> jimmy: oh, mazel tov. >> yeah, yeah. [ laughter ]

>> jimmy: there was an article about you in the "wall street journal." >> okay. >> jimmy: you probably know this. they published this photograph. how old are you in this picture? >> wow. that's probably '72. there was a big snowstorm. so -- i'm not going to do the math, i don't know, i was young. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: a big snowstorm, huh? >> no, you don't understand. this was at the end of the snowstorm. there was that year -- i was in maryland, we got like -- almost 2 feet of snow. and it was crazy. i mean, school was closed for like a week and a half and all. it was nuts. that was at the end of it, we finally -- i finally went outside. >> jimmy: wow, kind of like now in a way. you know? this is your second coming. >> that's my second one, yes. >> jimmy: in the story it said -- you were talking about your family being funny. you have a very funny family. and that your brother, harry, in particular was funny. >> hilarious. >> jimmy: as funny as you are? >> no. [ laughter ] no, harry -- this is a different

kind of funny. he's family funny. >> jimmy: what does that mean specifically? >> he's funny to the family. >> jimmy: uh-huh? >> i mean, i could take the guy to the improves, on stage he'd bomb, he'd just be awful. >> jimmy: i see. >> in the family, he kills. [ laughter ] he's hysterical. he's the funniest one in the family. >> jimmy: the fact that he was funny, is that kind of what made you -- older brother? >> yeah, my older brother. >> jimmy: that made you want to be a comedian? >> not a comedian, i liked that he made people laugh. i had sense then that he was family fun. but i -- it was watching likeeee moms maybely, whoopi goldberg. that's when i said, i should try to do this. >> jimmy: wow, you couldn't just give that to harry, could you? [ laughter ] >> i got a little sister complex yeah. >> jimmy: when we come back,

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why am i beeping? the recital, damn, i can't get out of my own way! oh, what the hell? oh! oh no. >> no, no, no! >> this didn't happen. >> are we dead?

we've got to be dead. this is the uber to heaven, we've got to drop you home first! [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: that is wanda sykes and my guest in "the upshaws" which is on netflix. mike was here last night, a very funny guy and a character. >> yes, he is. >> jimmy: how long ago did you meet mike? >> i met mike probably back in the late '90s, in new york. we were both doing, you know -- doing the circuit, doing the comedy clubs and stuff, i would bump into him. funny guy, really funny guy. i remember sitting in the back, like boston comedy club with him. and mike, you know -- like was like, wanda, i don't know, man, i don't know. i'm like, what's wrong? he's like, too many white people in the audience. [ laughter ] he was like, you know, i've been in atlanta talking to a bunch of black people, i don't think they going to know what i'm talking about. i'm like, mike, they'll get it, just go up there and you'll be fine. it's a lot of white people. [ laughter ] he just kept saying it. he just was so nervous.

>> jimmy: you're right, he does kind of look around like that, doesn't he? >> yeah, yeah. funny, they'll get you, man. >> jimmy: you came up with this idea for this show. and you went to netflix and they said, yeah, we want to do it. then you started doing it. then you had to stop doing it, right? >> right. >> jimmy: how many episodes did you tape before you had to stop for covid? >> we taped five episodes before we had to stop for covid. >> jimmy: five of how many? >> five of ten. >> jimmy: halfway in the middle of the it, like how i figured that out? [ laughter ] >> yes, that was sharp. >> jimmy: and so you shut down, and that's weird, right? >> right. >> jimmy: suddenly just -- probably getting rolling. >> yeah, yeah. >> jimmy: how much time is in between shooting again? >> we didn't -- we went back in october. >> jimmy: you went back in october, okay. >> yeah, but the writers, we started back in like april? like the end of april. we started back. >> jimmy: oh. >> we wrote from april to like, i guess june, maybe? june, july. >> jimmy: that's a luxury in a

way, to be able to write all that stuff during that time, yah. >> yeah. >> jimmy: you have a bunch of kid actors on the show. >> yes. >> jimmy: were you worried at any point that the kids would look different work, grow up during that covid time? >> yes. >> jimmy: you didn't know how long it was going to be. >> exactly, exactly. like oh my god. and it's important that they keep this age, like you said, half the show shot. i was like, you know -- i was sending them starbucks cards. [ laughter ] carton of cigarettes. >> jimmy: cigarettes, yeah. stunting their growth. they say they stunt your growth. >> you can quit when we get out of the pandemic! >> jimmy: you have a funny relatonship with mike on the show, your characters hate each other. sister-in-law, brother-in-law relationship. >> right. >> jimmy: which reminds me in a way of "sanford and son." >> right, right, absolutely. >> jimmy: which is the best. i mean, that's the absolute gold standard of any of that -- of any sitcom anything, really.

>> yes. >> jimmy: you are also -- play sister to kim fields, who people know as tooti in "the facts of life" and "different strokes." double tooti. >> right. >> jimmy: i don't know if you know kim's dad irv works here on the show. >> i didn't know that, wow. >> jimmy: daddy tooti works here, our technical director, he's been here since the beginning. >> oh my gosh. >> jimmy: did you ask her a million questions about "the facts of life" and "different strokes"? >> here's the thing. this is the first time meeting her. kim fields, you feel you've known her forever, you watched her grow up on tv. first time meeting her. so i wanted to be on my toes around her, let her know, i know some things too, you know. [ laughter ] this isn't my first rodeo, miss kim fields. no, just giving her a lot of respect. but she's great, she's great. love her to death. and today's her birthday, actually. >> jimmy: oh, how about that. [ cheers and applause ] >> happy birthday, kim!

don't worry, season 2, i'ma do a deep dive into what happened with them drumming kilts. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: there's a lot to dig through on that one. have you been -- i know you were really very, very focused on politics for like the last almost five years. >> yes. >> jimmy: have you given yourself a break? are you -- have you taken -- not watching cable news, relaxing now? >> of course i'm still watching. >> jimmy: still watching. >> but you know what, you don't have to watch like you used to with trump. because before, you had to watch with trump, to make sure he wasn't going to kill us all. [ laughter ] what the hell this is idiot doing today? but it's more relaxing, watching it now. but stuff like this -- i don't know what's going on with the republicans. this thing with liz cheney. >> jimmy: it's crazy, right? >> it's crazy. i don't care if you're a republican or democrat, one thing you got to say about liz cheney, i think we can all agre, is the lady has great

hair. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: she does have good hair. >> she has amazing hair. [ laughter ] the color. it looks silky smooth. i mean, no fly -- she's amazing. >> jimmy: that's going to be a real pick me up for her today, to find that -- [ laughter ] >> don't worry about it, liz, you got great hair, i'm telling you, don't worry about it. kevin mccarthy wish he had your hair. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: that's true, you're right on that. [ cheers and applause ] "the upshaws" is available on netflix. wanda sykes, everybody! thank you, wanda. we'll be back with max minghella! ♪ ♪ this is my body of proof. proof of less joint pain and clearer skin. ...with humira. humira targets and blocks a specific source of inflammation that contributes to both joint and skin symptoms.

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[ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> jimmy: that's our audience member, james. james, everything good so far? >> doing great. doing great, jimmy. >> jimmy: you're our number one audience member so far this year. [ applause ] >> thank you, thank you. >> jimmy: music from mod sun & avril lavigne is on the way. you know our next guest as driver nick on "the handmaid's tale." now he's in the passenger seat, alongside chris rock in the ninth installment of the "saw" series, "spiral: from the book of saw" opens in theatres friday. please welcome max minghella. [ cheers and applause ] ♪

>> jimmy: how you doing? >> i'm good, to you you doing? >> jimmy: i'm doing well. you have an english accent. they told me, i didn't believe it. >> yeah, people are always so disappointed when they find out i'm english. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: really? >> yeah, when i grew up i would watch, you know -- watch these american high school comedies. there's always this british foreign exchange student who shows up. girls get very excited.p>> jimm? >> i thought that might happen for me. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: it didn't? >> no. everybody, every time anybody finds out i'm english, they look miserable. >> jimmy: i feel the opposite, but it does make me feel i can't trust you. [ laughter ] thinking that you're talking -- i'll tell you another thing, and i know this is dumb. but i am always impressed when a brit does an american accent very well. but i never am the slightest bit impressed when an american does a british accent. in fact, i find it annoying. [ laughter ] >> really? that's fair enough. i mean, i feel like too many

british people play americans. >> jimmy: you do? >> yeah, we get a lot of work here, maybe more than we should. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: it's an interesting position to take. >> americans should play americans. >> jimmy: yeah, well -- i don't know. well, so i would imagine people are kind of taken aback by that, but you're an actor, and they shouldn't be. >> yeah. >> jimmy: i'm talking to myself right now. >> yeah, yeah. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: your dad, i didn't know this about you, your dad was an oscar-winning director. your dad directed the movie "the english patient." [ cheers and applause ] >> yes. >> jimmy: your mom maybe still is a dancer, choreographer, in the film business. >> yeah. my dad worked with matt damon, your dear friend. >> jimmy: oh, you had to ruin it. [ laughter ] >> yeah, your best friend. yeah, no, i grew up around it for sure. it made me a weird child, i it made hink.weird child, i >> jimmy: being around the movie business? >> yeah. it did. i was like a very nerdy kid. a nirdy adult. i was a nerdy skid. other people would be playing

sports or whatever. i was obsessed with box office. >> jimmy: really? like how much money the movies made? >> yeah. 4 or 5 years old. i'm showing my age now. back in the day when you would have to call the number up. >> jimmy: uh-huh? >> call the number, it would be hare it would say, "the lost world, jurassic park, did $10,000 screen average," whatever. that was my hobby. >> jimmy: i didn't know this existed. there was a number, movie phone kind of thing, where you would call? >> yes. >> jimmy: why is that any of anyone's business? [ laughter ] >> it was pretty -- we didn't have the trades in england. >> jimmy: uh-huh? >> i didn't grow up in beverly hills. >> jimmy: in england you could call and find out how much a movie -- worldwide receipts or just the local england numbers? >> it was just the domestic, yeah, yeah. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: that's very, very strange. >> it's amazing that i've survived to adulthood. >> jimmy: what would you do with that information once you had it? >> absolutely nothing. it's so funny. i think i would -- i was an only

child, celebrate in my room if something did well. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: really? >> it was pathetic. >> jimmy: you picked a movie you liked? >> yeah, i really hope "twister" opens this weekend, oh, good, it did, i can sleep tonight. >> jimmy: "the handmaid's tale," set in america, but you shoot in canada? >> we shoot in canada, we shot "soar"? canada too. i can't escape canada but i love it. we shot them both in toronto. it's the weirdest thing. so there's another show in toronto that's called "shadow hunters." >> jimmy: okay, i've heard of that show. >> a teen show. >> jimmy: right. >> i guess there's a guy on "shadow hunters" who i look like, apparently, some guy i look like. people love this actor. whoever he is, people love "the shadow hunter." it's like, from the moment i started working there, again, uber, i get in the back of the uber, the driver would be, oh, shadow hunter!

43 hand sanitizer, or whatever it is. [ laughter ] i love going there now, because i get treated like an absolute prince. i don't know who you are, shadow hunter. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: is he the main shadow hunter? >> no idea. i looked up the cast, i wonder who this guy is? they're all very handsome, i don't think i look like any of these people. apparently, yeah. apparently some guy -- >> jimmy: really, so people think you're the shadow hunter guy, okay. >> the shadow hunter guy, which is really nice, i love working there. >> jimmy: they shoot in toronto? >> they do. >> jimmy: you've never run into him? >> never met him. if you have him on tell him i say hi. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: okay. you could really do some terrible things in his name, you know? >> yeah, so far it's been great for me. i mean, i got -- doing "soar," i got free chipotle once. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: what? >> someone thought i was the shadow hunter guy. i embrace it now. >> jimmy: were you in the chipotle? >> in the chipotle, checking out. the guy was like, "shadow

hunters"? i was like, yes. [ laughter and applause ] >> jimmy: do you like scary movies? >> yeah. i do like scary movies. these movies are like really -- >> jimmy: scary yeah. these movies are too scary for me. i can't -- i wouldn't be able to sleepfy saw one. >> you'll be okay, you're a big boy, you can do it. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: you'd be surprised. you would be surprised. >> yeah, it's scary, but the thing i loved about it is, it has this buddy cop element to it. >> jimmy: okay. you and chris rock, yeah. >> i grew up obsessed -- strange kid, as you know. and was obsessed with "beverly hills cop." watched it every day. >> jimmy: what were the box office numbers on that, do you remember? [ laughter ] >> good numbers. >> jimmy: every day? >> it did like 180 domestic. >> jimmy: how old were you at this time? >> "cop 1" came out in 1984, the year before i was born. "beverly hills cop 2," which chris rock is in. >> jimmy: okay, right. >> came out when i was alive and

well. so i loved that movie so much, and it meant so much to me. when i read the script for "soar," i wasn't expecting it to have this detective story in it, and that was exciting. >> jimmy: did you know chris rock before this? >> i didn't, no. i'd never met him before. we met briefly at a party. many months before we did this film. and it was very dark. and i had a bit too much to drink. and he came up to me and was very complimentary. so, you know, immediately i assumed, oh, "shadow hunter." [ laughter ] and then he said at the end of our exchange, we'd never met, he said, we're working together soon. see you soon. and i was like, he definitely thinks i'm somebody else. [ laughter ] because we're not working together soon. but it turns out he was ahead of the game, he knew. >> jimmy: oh, he knew -- ah, that they had decided on you for the part, wow, interesting. >> yeah. >> jimmy: what a way to find out. >> yeah. i had no idea what he was talking about until four months

later. >> jimmy: maybe he was confused, maybe that other guy was supposed to be in this film. [ laughter ] >> you're right, shadow hunter said, no, i can't, i'm not availab available. >> jimmy: forget chipotle, you scored on this deal. well, it's great to have you here. >> thank you. >> jimmy: tomorrow, chris rock will be with us. i'll explain to him who you are. [ laughter ] in case there's any confusion. >> please do, thank you, i appreciate it. >> jimmy: max minghella, everybody. "spiral: from the book of saw" opens in theaters on friday. we'll be back with music from mod sun and avril lavigne! [ cheers and applause ] >> dicky: the "jimmy kimmel live" concert series is presented by mercedes-benz. the best or nothing. [ crowd cheering ] [ engine revving ] [ race light countdown ] ♪ ♪

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>> jimmy: would you recommend the show to others? >> yes. 5 out of 5. >> jimmy: would you like to do me a favor and bump matt damon for yes? >> sure. >> jimmy: all you have to do is say, sorry, we ran out of time. >> i can do that. >> jimmy: go ahead, james. >> i'm sorry, matt damon, we ran out of time. >> jimmy: it feels so good, doesn't it? >> it does! [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: "nightline" is next. but first, joining voices and forces on a song called "flames." mod sun and avril lavigne! ♪ ♪ i still burn for you like the sun burns in the sky i still burn for you ♪ ♪ i still burn for you my whole life i've been on fire i still burn for you ♪ ♪ jimmy kimmel yeah ♪ ♪ up in flames up in flames light a match and put it up to my name ♪ ♪ up in flames i still burn for you every time i think

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