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news. either. i'm kristen z, and you're watching. getting answers live be jik hi hulu live in we answer your questions every day at 3 pm to get answers in real time. today we have a stanford doctor who just returned from taiwan, once a success story but now they are reeling with covid-19 cases. his experience and he answers your questions but first we are marking the one year since the murder of george floyd. it sparked d really a movement nationwide, calls for police reform and reallocating funds. so how much has actually changed?
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joining us now to talk about this is the son of dr. martin luther king jr., global human rights leader and chairman of the drum maj. institute, martin luther king the third. mr. king thank you for joining us from atlanta. >> thank you. >> it's been one year to the day since floyd was murdered, we've seen marches and protests, we seen derek chauvin convicted for murder but have we as a country made impactful change? >> i think we have to continue actions to assess that. what i do believe is one of the first steps is the passage of the george floyd policing act which is in the united states paedthe s we speak and there ef i don't know we ev, thti ithe hf
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probably in minnesota, a policeman, policeman came together to say that one of their own, basically not just broke the law but should be held accountable for murder and he was charged and convicted. that is a monumental step quite frankly. even though we all saw it front of our eyes and thought it should be an open and shut case, none of us knew what was going to happen as it related to the jury until it happened. >> indeed and that in itself progress. you mentioned the policing reform bill that is still being worked on in congress but what about the biden administration? do you think pres. biden's administration has done enough to dismantle systemic racism? >> i would characterize it to say that in fact when we talk
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about the change, the very first change was of that millions of americans, 81 million to be exact, came together and elected a new president and a vice president, the first woman of course who happens to be an african- american and east indian woman, the first vice president in the history of our nation who has a commitment to these issues. so i would say that the president is moving in the right direction. this unfortunately is not a sprint, it's a marathon and it will take a lot of work. the justice department has already begun looking at policing in minneapolis and there are about a dozen other cities that they are going to look at as well. out of that will come recommendations of how you transition or transform police departments are being able to hold them accountable. there have also been civil rights charges filed in that
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would not have happened with the previous administration at all. so those in my judgment are significant beginnings of change. >> indeed and i think even though steps surprised a lot of people. if i may borrow your father's words, they argue that the moral universe is long but we've seen in cities them taking steps toward justice, and in berkeley in the bay area they've taken traffic out of the policing realm, in san francisco they have reallocated police funds to launch services for the african-american community and they've added a crisis response team to respond to mental health calls. do you think all those are important steps in actually making an impact? >> i think everyone of those steps you just named are very potentially significant steps. we've had a scenario in every police department where police respond to any and everything,
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some things they really do not have expertise in and that is not their fault, it's just that police can't do everything. we do need specific professionals particularly to deal with issues of mental health, challenges were often times police are called and sometimes it ends up being fatal because again they do not know how to deal with that. i think there is an issue also, the concept of de-escalation has to be brought up. we have to teach our police how to de-escalate. our police are experts at understanding how to escalate because it is done each and every day but de-escalation is really what yields results and probably saves lives and that is something that i think needs to be constantly included in discussions. >> all right, i want to turn to something that you actually commented on today and there's a little bit of controversy in that not everyone agrees. you have advocated cutting professional sports as a way to jumpstart the fight against racism. why? >> so, for a long time i have
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felt that one of the most important or powerful tools that exists is the target of ta divesting from things, whether it is sports or even companies, we've had a series of companies who over the last year have made and created new departments of equity and diversity and inclusion. and these are new concepts that these departments or that these companies are trying but my higher point is that during the civil rights movement 385 days of my father and his team along with others decided not to ride buses in the city of montgomery and that is what transformed that particular issue of desegregating really the buses. so that ultimately at the national level that would be
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done but it started in montgomery. and i think boycotting is at least always a thing to consider. >> okay. are you pleased though in the past year with the nba and nfl's response since the black lives matter movement really kicked into high gear after floyd's death? i mean here in san francisco we remember what happened to colin kaepernick. >> that is one issue that is a stickler, as talented as i believe colin kaepernick is it's very tragic that owners have not created an opportunity, and you really would create opportunities, is this confidence but they have just not been interested in rehiring him. so that is something i'm disappointed in but there are things that the nfl and the nba are doing,
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with some of its leadership and things with lebron james and some others that they do all the time which are making statements and moving the needle. more still needs to be done but it certainly is not enough in terms of what we are seeing in professional sports. but we are seeing a far greater level of consciousness because of what athletes themselves are doing. >> a lot of the activism today i is being led by young people, your own teenage daughter one of them. what can we do as parents? >> i think number one what is exciting to me is the fact that there are young activists and many of them are young children, the parkland students just a few years back mobilized young people in high school and as a result congress changed from
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majority republican to majority democratic in 18 and then gun legislation was proposed. it fell dead in the senate unfortunately and that's kind of what we are dealing with today with a 50-50 senate. it's very difficult still to get legislation like that moved. but my higher point is, i think we have to continue to create balance for our children, it's unfortunate for example that my daughter feels she has to stand up for these issues. when quite frankly generation and others should have resolve these issues. my dad wanted to eradicate poverty and racism from our planet and obviously we still have a lot of work to do in those areas.
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my daughter and others have said we are going to make sure that these issues are put behind us and we never have to deal with them again. i wish there were new issues that they had to deal with but unfortunately they are having to deal with these issues. and i think they are equipped to do it. they are committed and there is a consciousness that we've never seen before, when we saw all of those demonstrations across our nation back in july many of them were led young people. and many of them were led why white that were in every state in our nation. >> will mr. king given that you lost your own father at the age of 10 i think you speak with a lot of credibility when you talk about carrying on the work of our parents and building on the work of the previous generation. it was great talking with you today. >> thank you for the opportunity. coming up next one of the biggest covid success stories, taiwan, is now seeing an alarming surge. what happened? where did things go wrong and what are the lessons for
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sometimes they say, "it might work, it might not work." and so i ask myself the question, like, "why even get the vaccine, if it can also harm you?" for me, it's like taking a 50/50 chance. hi andrea. some say that the vaccine is harmful or that it might not work, but that's not true. millions of people have been vaccinated with no ill effects. and i can tell you that getting the vaccine is far safer than not getting it.
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deaths, forcing life as w to co. one place stood out as an alternate reality. taiwan is an island just relatively covid free, a success story until it wasn't. in the past two weeks cases have soared serving as a cautionary tale not only in asia but here in the u. s. joining us today is dr. jason wang director of the center for policy outcomes and prevention at stanford. it's good to see nice to see y
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>> it's been a while and i want to ask you because a lot has changed. taiwan is averaging about 500 new cases a day and that doesn't sound like a lot until you consider they had one or two cases a day for most of the past year. what changed? >> last year there was a period of about 200 days where they had no new cases. so people just got more relaxed and sometimes they stopped wearing their masks and then the index of suspicion for doctors and nurses which is very low, when somebody showed up with a sore throat or a cough they didn't think it was covid. so basically they didn't know if there were cases around and they didn't think there were. until a month ago. where a pilot and a crew member basically they had relaxed quarantine time from 14 days to five days and then to three
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days. so after three days of quarantine they were supposed to be doing self-management and not go out too much but somebody broke the rules and went out to a bar and then basically gave it to other people. in the community. so it's a case where there was sort of a gap and a whole in the defense for the borders. the other thing is that taiwan has been used to sort of the sars model where cases are symptomatic with fever. but for covid, 40% of individuals infected are asymptomatic. or they have very little symptoms. so you can't just screen people with symptoms, you have to screen both. and finally i think because when it went into the community there were clusters of infection and one of them took place in a teahouse. teahouses are very similar to
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geisha houses, these are the remnants sort of of japanese culture in taiwan where people hang out and there was an outbreak there. so overall i think people have just been more relaxed and less vigilant. >> okay. so what does that mean for us? because right now i don't want to say we are getting complacent but when we look at numbers we go hey, we are trending in the right direction , so many have been vaccinated and we can start to open up and as you know june 15 the state will fully open but looking at what happened in taiwan does that suggest anything different for us? should we take a different course and not relax or do you think it's okay because our situation is different? >> i would say that the lesson for us here in the u. s. particularly in the bay area is that we have to watch out for
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variance. for this outbreak, this was caused by the uk strain, b117 and taiwan basically had not been impacted by the strain before but it spreads really fast. so basically for each person they could give it to three or four people so before you know it it's an outbreak and in the u. s. we have to watch out, for example, the indian strain which is overtaking b117 in the uk is becoming the most aggressive strain in the uk. so we have the indian strain here in the bay area and so before you get to relaxed you have to sort of be careful because the strengths have comparative advantage, they out compete the current strain to become the dominant strain. >> or do you think the fact that we have so much of our population vaccinated especially here in california with three quarters having gotten at least one shot, taiwan is a different situation
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with only 5% vaccinated. do you think we are fine so to speak even with the variance giving our vaccination levels? >> so the vaccines that we have, the pfizer vaccine is 33% protective after the first dose against the indian strain. it is 88% after the second dose so we have good vaccines. the astrazeneca vaccine for example in the uk is also 33% after the first dose but about 60% after the second dose. so we are very lucky to have powerful vaccines but again new variance emerge we need to sequence them and test them to see if current vaccine strategies will still be working. >> and you brought up that teahouse and people being reluctant to say i was there, that brings up the whole contact tracing issue. i know that we have some apps
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in place and i know when california launched the california notify act in december i signed up where if you are with someone who later showed that they got it you would be alerted on your phone. what i think the sign-up rate was not that high doctor weighing and then in the past month there was a lawsuit filed with plaintiffs kind of cleaning that google exposed their data so it seems like a lot of forces are working against the adoption of these apps on a widespread basis. >> let me just give you an example from the uk. the uk is a democracy and they also care deeply about privacy and confidentiality issues and they have this app based on the google app platform where the bluetooth code randomly generated every 10 to 15 minutes, if another phone is close by for 15 minutes then it exchanges data and then if somebody tested positive for covid they have the option
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me repeat that, they have the option to tell other people so they could send the information to a server anonymously. and then the code would just be matched with other codes that had been close to this person. so everything is voluntary but what they found is very shocking, that about 50% of eligible people adopted to use the app and for every 1% adoption there is as decrease of 0.8% in cases so it's almost a one-to-one relationship and this is totally a voluntary system and anonymous. public health departments don't even know. basically they could tell where a lot of the districts have cases but they can't tell who has them. so for democracy that might be a more acceptable option and this was published in nature and i just wrote an editorial for it that was published today. >> all right dr. wayne, don't go away because we are taking a short break but when we come
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>> do you need questionsngwho is orhe e book live right now. dr. wang pediatrics is one of your specialties at stanford and today moderna says its vaccine which is currently over only given out to people 18 and up is safe and effective for kids as young as 12. who exactly did their trials include and what exactly did those results show? >> the trials for moderna included ages 12 to 17 so this is a very exciting piece of news and it means everyone above the age of 12 could now get the vaccine for moderna. and it's just as effective as it is for adults once you get the two shots so that's also very exciting. the pfizer vaccine previously
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had released their vaccine for 12 and above and that is also equally efficacious as it is for adults. ccesfochild ab>> oe hesite ipeaway and the woman that i could sign-up my kids, within seconds it was like trying to get a concert ticket. >> right. but it could still take weeks because they are going for fda approval, for emergency use and that process could take a few weeks before they get those moderna shots in young arms? >> yes, moderna will take fda approval, pfizer has already been approved. >> i'm wondering what is the main impact because pfizer is already approved for kids between 12 and 17 and we don't seem to have a supply
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shortage so why is the scientific community still really excited about this right now? >> you know, we are trying to vaccinate the world and not just the united states. so we want to be producing billions of vaccines so we can vaccinate all the children of the world and that is critical and the other thing is we have populations in the united states , underserved populations like african-americans and latinos and they might not be getting the necessary information about where to get the vaccine and about the vaccine itself so we need to have outreach efforts to these communities so that we can get them vaccinated. >> another interesting story coming out today is a new study that has shown that dogs might be able to sniff out covid infection, tell us what you know about that. >> i just saw it, it's like a 94% accurate and i didn't read the details but just the headlines. from what we know about canines
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they can detect drugs in an airport so they probably have special senses with their nose so i wouldn't be surprised at all. >> but this suggests that people who have covid smell differently or there is something in the chemical scent that they put out that's a little different? >> maybe. and it may be affecting their metabolism. >> okay but this is not going to replace any pcr tests, right? >> it might be used in combination like in a busy airport. so if you can't get people through fast enough and you need to do covid test, maybe you have a dog and they go around as people are waiting for their luggage. and then you could test them. they could sniff and test people. >> in crowded areas possibly. lastly i want to ask you, pfizer says it hopes to get sh ainots doside toth? we set
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needs to happen in this country. we also talked to stanford doctor who just returned from taiwan world news tonight is next and i'll see you back here tomorrow. bye bye. tonight, one year since the police killing of george floyd. floyd's family meeting at the white house. across the country today, george floyd's death marked with a moment of silence for 9 minutes, 29 seconds. a crowd gathering at the memorial where he was killed. images from minneapolis to communities across this country. late today, george floyd's family emerging after that private meeting with president biden and vice president harris. what they revealed about the meeting. what the president said about the george floyd justice in policing act, still not signed into law. and tonight, the reality check here. the democrats and republicans negotiating behind the scenes. what are the sticking aler minneapolis and mary bruce at the white house. also breaking as we come on the air tonight, here in new york city, sources telling abc
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