>> movingor fward, fiinndg lusotions. >> i am chrians d see -- >> live on abc senev. we experts to esqutions everyday at 3:00 to get awensrs rineal-time. today we meet an erentpreneur whoas h helpingai hti long before the earthquake. we check in to see how he is doing, how they are doing and how you can join the effort. first, more signs the delta variant may be plateauing in the bay area. now what? joining us now is dr. alok patel. dr. patel so many new developments. >> so many. good to digitally see you as

well. >> you have been working hard on two rounds to help us wrap our heads around the latest abutments. facebook friends could help me with this, try to guess which one is alive. >> the vaccines are still 90% effective at preventing hospitalizations, or only the fda will evaluate data before recommending a booster shot for everybody. not just the immuno compromise. >> so, folks, i am going to rule out b because that is absolutely

true. the vaccines are effective at preventing hospitalizations. even with delta. i see some of you are saying c is the live. some say a. i think the cdc also needs to evaluate data. i am going to say c is the life. >> final answer? >> let me check. we have people all over the place. >> you are correct. you are astute. it is important for people to know this. this has been reported -- it is kind of a reversal in the order when it comes to recommending vaccines or any interventional matters. the white house give out first and made these boosters available for everyone. we need a co-advisor -- advisory committee to weigh in, which is

probably going to happen around august 24. while there is evidence right now, as the cdc director suggested along with dr. fauci, to say everyone needs to get a booster, we still need the final approval and all of the data. number one is a sobering reality, 1.3% of people in lower income countries have received vaccine. that is unacceptable. we are never going to beat this if we don't address that yesterday. it is so important for people to remember, breakthrough infections and boosters possibly -- people need to remember these vaccines are doing an incredible job against severe illness, hospitalizations and death. >> sounds good. you probably saw me looking down. i was congratulating everybody who identified c. let's do another. >> i am applauding them. kristen: ok. >> i will never fault you for

congratulating astute and savvy viewers. the theme of this is headlines from all over, which one is not true. a, ron monoclonal antibodies. b, 70% of covid since may. c, turkey turkey turkey t high risk list. the highest tier. kristen: this is tricky. i think b is true. iceland is doing well. once taken, it is between c and a. i see it entirely as possible so knowing governor desantis and

florida, i know he has opposed masks and vaccine mandates and i think he is promoting monoclonal antibodies and regeneron, so i'm going to say a. before we commit come i want to check, many facebook viewers are saying a as well. a is the lot. >> a is the lie. these may seem random, but has an important my want to highlight. a, yes, we know certain governors are opposing mandates. but the issue is weird, it is weird to oppose a method of prevention such as vaccines and masks and be in favor of an expensive treatment like regeneron. >> how much does it cost per dose? >> it is probably going to differ. this is thousands of dollars.

kristen: per dose? >> per dose. whereas your vaccine is free. there is an equity involved here because not everybody symptomatic is not getting monoclonal antibodies. it is weird to wait until the houses on fire to get fire extinguishers. prevention is what we need. there are headlines about special interests and why monoclonal antibodies are being championed. is important because breakthrough infractions that infections can break out in iceland, but if you look at how many cases they have, only two are hospitalized for that is important when you see surges. you've got to read between the headlines. c, there is irony countries at high risk -- guess what?

that is a lot of u.s. states including florida, louisiana and texas. if florida were its own country, it would be in the top five in the world for infections right now. larry: kristen: -- kristen: looking at california, it seems we are doing better. in the bay area. a lot of people are wondering if we plan toed here -- plateaued here. >> i think the numbers are reassuring. i believe we went below 200. i did see reassuring news from dr. colfax about how this may represent a plateau. we also have a responsible crowd. after seeing headlines and worried sis -- statistics, i am glad people have noticed are wearing masks.

it can be a function of that as well. i do not know if we can say delta has peaked, or behavior has influenced it. kristen: i have a lot more questions, but in the spirit have feuding viewer -- of putting bureaus first, let's get the questions. kevin wants no well those who are immune compromised to receive the shots still needing a booster past their journal -- past their supplementals, he wants no. >> if i understood correctly, the question is if people are immuno compromise, will they need an additional shot. there is talk right now after this booster, if it was to be recommended for everyone out there there may not be a need for long-term, annual covid-19

vaccines. but -- kristen: you are saying something different from what the cdc and dr. fauci seemed to have said. >> what part? kristen: they are saying, our plan is have two -- have americans get a booster, does not suggest the need is there? you're not alone. i have her doctors say the data has not shown exclusively -- >> let's address that. to finish up, the people immunocompromised who are taking certain medications, they are in a different risk bracket. this is not specific to the vaccine. i can't make a generalization about the need for boosters. to what you said, yes, there is confusion. i openly acknowledge i am not

immunology expert. i talked to colleagues, and there is early data from the white house, three studies about decreased effectiveness about affect a or moderate symptoms and hospitalizations. but, they are just as effective in preventing hospitalizations. that is something important. is this generalizable? there needs to be more data. we can't keep looking at waning antibody levels because we know antibodies are not the only element in our immune system. there needs to be more transparency intrudes of -- in terms of timing. people need to do their own risk assessment, then chat with their doctors. kristen: so much as i was watinchg dr. walensky and .dr fauci, theer werehe tse

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now were a doing iart ound the world. kristen: how doeths is work? how doest i rely onoc lal haitianus binesses d anstores? us note om the outside they idea is empower local entrepreneurs by providing their know-how and the tools and the money so that local entrepreneurs can provide clean water. it is a different approach that takes longer but ultimately i believe it builds must -- it builds resilience so that local entrepreneurs cannot only prepare for disasters there, but they can also respond to them. kristen: with global warming, more such disasters, the government not being the most secure their, sometimes it is hardly -- it is hard using local

leaders. what are you doing right now in the wake of this quake? because of the infrastructure, you are able to get water out of folks who lost their homes. >> the short-term, relief wise, we are sending water. there is, as you mentioned, 70,000 homes were destroyed. mostly in rural areas. they have no resources. we are sending basic necessities now. switching to much more of the infrastructure building approach, setting of water treatment systems and helping the local entrepreneurs and local communities set up their own ability to respond. kristen: you're trying to do that on a global level too. people so i a lot of video if you win haiti, you swimming in haiti, one of many fundraisers who have held to help folks.

what can we do here for folks who want to help haiti? >> if you know people in especially if you know people who are in the affected areas, the best thing you can do his send money. 2000 dollars cash community air will feed 100 people for weeks. it is the most efficient way to help people in haiti. if you do not know people in haiti, there are great organizations i trust such as product metta share. kristen: we will talk about t

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