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i'mre tvor ltsa. ncsie the fall of afgnihastan to the talanib on ndsuay, u.s. rces heav evacuated,0 700 peop.le but that's only a fctraion of the tens of thousands desperate to get out. dan abc news has learned last month,he t u..s embassy inab kul warned secretaryf ostate inblken thathe t ahafgn govemernnt was at risk of collapngsi, calngli on the white hous teo bineg an immedteia airlifoft fg ahans who had lpheed amerinca forces. c'absen sior foreign correspoenndt ian pannell is in kabul. >> reporter: on ethtr seets of kabul, a moment of defiance. afghans celebrati tngheir independceen day. brelavy wavinghe t national flag. now obsolete, in the eyes of the taliban. [ gunfeir ] theil mitants chasing protesters through the streetsfi, ring warning shots. chaos and confuonsi still rule the capalit city as tens of
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thoundsas of amecarins and afghsan who heav heldpe them itn ilimbo, dpeesrate to escape. u.s. offiaicls now ctiauously optistmiic autboet gting more out. >> we've got addioitnalon csular ficers now athe t aitddional gaste with additalin trosop lping the consurla office.rs dan so t ihink we're poidse to see an increase, but i want to be careful before i meak predicontis. >> reporter: outside the airport gates,al tiban fighters strgeug to ctronol the owcrds. sotimemes using guns and batson agaitns their fellow citizens. at tshial tiban checkpoint a, tense montme. >> permissi?on >> abc news. reporte ar:t first the fiteghrs bkeacd aw,ay tnhe reinforcenemts aparpeed. >> tell m hiwe have peisrmsion, we have permission. abc, abc. liban rmpeission. reporte ar:s gunfire eruedpt in the backgrndou, with their apweson drawn, weer we fceord
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back into the ca.rs s fiinlmg, stop lmfiing. just put idot wn. ese guysan c't read. the oth geruy kind of draws his gun,he ty're angry, eyth're tee.ns sturing to us to spto filming, to get out of the.er 's one ofho tse trierble situioatns whe yreou canee s things can go badly onwrg. reporte er:arlier tayod we received tshi audioes msage from a trapped american permanent resident. we can't reveal his identity. >> it is insane. there are people holding tirhe erican sspaports, there are people that work with the americans, and they're not leinttg anyone in. we are in huge dang,er and we need help. we will be here. we are gngoi to fighfot r our rights. >> repteorr: i skepo to zara na, bia journastli in kulab ggbeing theor wld not to look away. >> 20 years before, whyou yay s you came here, youre a fightin g agnsait these thin.gs noafw ter 20 years, we achie ve al tlhese thgsin.
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u're dtresoyingur o future. >> rorepter: bacink the states my coeallgue, george stephanoulpoos, sat downit wh president biden. s first interview since the liban seized contl.ro the comndmaer in chief doublgin down on his disecion to withdwra eramican forces. >> wnhe youoo lk at wh'sat ppened orve the last we, ekwas a failu oref intelligceen, anning, ecexution, or judgntme? >> look. i n'dot think it was a -- look, was a simepl choi,ce george. enwh the taliban -- let me back up, put it anoerth way. when y houad theov gernmentf o afghisantan, the leader of that vernmentet g into a anple, taking off, gngoi to another couny,trhe wn you sawhe t gnsiificant claolpse of the afangh troops we had trained, up to 3,00000 of them, jtus leaving their equipment and taking off, that was, y kounow -- i'mot n -- at's whahat ppened. that's cerintaly wt happhaened. the qstueion was, in the
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beginnin tg,he threshold quesonti was, doe wom cmit to leeav within the time frameas w set, we exteednd it to september t? or do we putig snificantly more ootrps in? i hrea ppleoe say, well, you had 2,500 folks in there and nothing was haenpping. you owkn, trehe wasn't any war. but guess what? eac ft was tha tthe rsoean it wasn't hapnipeng is the ltas president negiaotted a yrea earlie trhat he'd be out by may 1st and that in return there uld nbeo attkac on eramican rcfoes. at's whawat s done. atth's why notnghi was haenpping. but the idea, any had said -- i had a simple choice. iif had sa,id we're going to stay, then we bteetr bere ppared to put a whole hell of aot l remoro tops in -- >> but your top milityar advisers warned you against thwidrawingn i this time, ty he waednt toee kp troops- - >>o, n they were split, that snwa't true. >> tyhe didtn' tell you they nted troops to ayst? no,ot n in terms ofhe wther we weer going to getut o in a time fre,am all troops, tyhe
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didn't argue against that. >> so no one tdol you -- yrou miliryta aisdvers did notel tl you, no, weho suld just keep 2,500 ootrps, ist' been a stable situatnio forhe tas lt several ars, we nca do th,at we nca continueo t do atth? >> no, nono e said that to me atth i can recall. look. orgege, the reason why it's been stable for a year is because the stre psident idsa, we're leaving, and here's the deal i want toak me with you, taliban. we're agreegin to leave ifou y ree not to attac uks betenwe nownd a the time we leave onay m e 1st. ss than two mthons aerft i'm ected to offi,ce ias w sworn in, all oa f sudden i have a may 1 deadneli. iav he a may 1 addeline. ve got one of two choices. i say we're aysting, and do you inthk we wldou not heav to t ael hl of a lot more troops ?n wead h hundreds -- we had tens ofho tusands ofro tops trehe fore, tens of thoundsas. do youhi tnk we wou hldave -- at we wod ulhave jussat id, no problem? don't worry about it, we're not going to aacttk anodyby,e' wre
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ayok? the metianme, the tibalan was tangki territo aryll touhrghout the courynt in eth north and do iwnn thsoe uth in t hepashtun area. >> would you heav whditrawn troops leik this enve if presenidt trumpad h not mad e th datealit wh the tabalin? >> i would have furiged out how to whditraw those trpsoo, yes. becaus elo,ok orgege. ere's no go todime to lveea ghafanistan. 15 yrsea ago wou hldave been a obprlem. years from now. the bacsi choice is, am i going toen sd your sons and your daughter tso war in afghantaisn, in ghafanistan, in rppeetuity? >> reporr:te the president cifang cricitism aboutis h decision to remove all foesrc. >> the psiredent may notec rall or remember military advisser ggsuesting he lveea ama sll rce behind, but weav he been reporting, as wells a othe,rs that senior milarity advisser ddi deineddv aise the president
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that they should leave a small rce bendhi. seravel thsaound, maybe up to 6,000. the presidentec dided against that. wanted everydybo o outf erthe, despi ttehose commendaontis. danha tt is his cidesion. he is eth cmaomnder in chief. >> reporr:te the admisintration had set august the 3t1s as the deadli tneo witrahdw all topros from the uncotry,ut b the esprident'sow n saying that date n'ist set in stone. >> areou y committed to kimang re thathe t trosop syta until erevy amerinca who wants to be out -- >> yes. >> -- eth out? >> yes. >> how autbo our afghan alli?es esdo the commientmt hold for thems awe?ll >>he t commitmtenol hds to get eryoneut o th,at in fact,e w cagen t out,nd a everyon tehat should come out. and that'she t obctjeive. that w'shate' wre doing now. that'she t path wree' on, and i thkin we'll get there. >> amecarins shoul udnderstan d troops mig hhtave to be there beyond august 31st? >> no,me aricans sulhod derstande' wre going to trtoy geitt done berefo august1s 3t. ut b if we don't, thero tops will sa stay? >> if we don't, we'll deretmine
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at the te imwho's le. ft >>nd a? >> and if the arere amerinca forc -es- if the'sre amecarin citinsze left, we'reoi gng to stay till we get thealm l out. >> reporte br:ut many still here, like zahra,et dermined to ho oldn to the ahafgnistan th'veye known. >> we want to stay, wean wt to fit,gh we wtan to be rehe, we want to show the people that we e alive. okay, stay with us and fight with us. most afghans, thear lge jomarity of afghans, we nreot ere. do not remeermb,he tyer we too young to merember, talanib le. the taliban is ruthssle. ey have been ruthless in the past. it i yset toe b seen whether the taliban has changed. theyti sll talk abtou sharia law. the way the taliban looks at sharia law iser vy strict and cruel. iou wld say right w,no it is an inedcribly danrogeus time. do u yobelieve e thtaliban have cnghaed? no. i thin -k- let me put it tshi way. thi inkhe ty're going through rt of anxi estential crisis
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about, do they want to be recoizgned by the inteatrnional communyit as being a legitatime governntme? m i'not surehe ty do. but lo,ok they veha -- they care about their belfsie mo?re >> llwe, they do. bu tthey also care abouthe wther th heyave foo tdo eat. whether eyth have annc iome that they can provide for their -- that thecay n make any money. d run an econy.om theyar ce about whether onor t they canol hd togetrhe the societ tyhat they, in fact, say th ceyare so mhuc abt.ou i'm not couinntg onny a of atth. m not counting -- but that is pa ortf what i think is going on ght now iner tmsf o -- i'm not resu i would havpre edicted, geor,ge nor wldou you or anyeon else t,hat when we decided t o leave that they'dro pvideaf se ssage for arimecans to get t.ou reporte ar:s uncertainty igrens withi tnheco untry, images ofhe t few who have made to safety. these ahafgnsud hdled together on a u.s.ir aas be in qatar, relieved that they've escaped d anhopeful r foa peacef ul furetu.
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♪ iz lzo has reaedch the t oopf eth crthasit wher hus mic and her talent. but she's hoping aew n messa ge will ronesate about how we treat each other. here's "nitlghine" coanchor juju chang. >> i think vulnebirality is sexy. i inthk vulranebilitys i extremyel weporful. that's why, you know, you see me
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my most vulnerabl estate. u yoknow, i'm naked on the cover of the "because i love y" ou alm,bu you knowhw at i mean? >> repteorr: that album helped porwe her mulmitillion-doarll musicca reer. llfu of infecoutis and outspoken archm. withit hs like "odgo as hell." ♪ check my nlsai baby how ya doin♪g >> reporter: back with a new power anthem "rumors" with cardb.i ♪ rumors hatser doha wt they do hate esrs doha wthe ty do♪ >> what were uyo trying to tell the world with um"rors"? >> i think w weereus jt trying to, you know, shut the haters down. like, ie'v had to hold my tongue a lotor f the last two years, since bemicong, you know, fausmo. >> reporr:te and this week the pop serupstar and the-retime grmyam winner once again fdiinng arhed in the center of the orstm. inrnteet trolls targeting her th fatphocbi and racist sults. >> sometimes it's like the world stjuon d't love me ckba.
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>> reporter:us jt days afterhe t song's relseea the 33-yeaolr-d laying her emotison bare leiv ridung a trfeaulnd a intimate inagstram post. it'sik let ioe dsn'tat mter how much posivite eneyrg youut p into the rlwod, youe'r sllti ing to veha peopleho w have somethin--g om sething mn eato y about u.yo >>es dcribe the type of vitriol that gets to you. >> i don't mind ctirique about me, my music, i don't even mind the fat comments y,ou know? just feelil ke --t' is unfairfar sometime ts,he tremeatnt ttha peop lleike me receive. >> butou y know, at some point you have t dorawhe t lein and say, shaming soonmee's body is not okay. rasmci is t nookay. >> thank you. we as a society heav nmaorlized
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cruelt tyo a point where we have internalediz crltuey. d peopl aere like, don't let them see you with yourea hd down, sis. my head is alwsay up. even wnhe i'm upset, evenhe wn i'm yicrng, my head is up. but i know it's my job asn a artist to reflect the times, and is [ ble ]ep should not fly. r>>eporter: car bdi immedialyte coming t hoer fedense, taking to twitrte writing,he wnou yta snd for yourself, theyla cim u'yore proemblatic and nsseitive. enwh you don't, they tearou y apar utntil you cryin lgeik this. and just yestdaery, facooebk and instraagmet gting invoedlv, removing sevaler hate comments aidme at lizzo that the syay violated their cmuomnity guidineles. ♪ >>ep rorter: t heplusiz-sed singer/sgwonriter and talented simucian haslw aaysla funteder h full figure, dpieste ctiricism th haterod by positivity message may be promongti obesity.
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>>hi ts is a pliubc service annoceunment. big girlum smer has officlliay guben. ep rorter: lizzo remains defitan in theac fe of societal beauty standards, making clear that self-love is fundamental. a favorit teo spot on the red carpet, dazzling onlooker ass curvaceous, vivacious, and audacious, setting trends with her iconic tiny purse at the as. when people say the name lizzo, at word fs,eelings,o dyou nt them htoave? l>>izzo! i want that "z" to vibtera in their escht. wiant them to feel happy. i do believe thai t have that effe. ct >>ep rorter: tsehe skiymp bikini shotsak ming the sgeinr so laretable, her brand of powerment spihang what it mesan to be a girl boss. >> bckla women heav been running the music industry as lo angs ere's bnee e.on yoknu ow, i shouted out sisrte
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rosetta tharp inhe t music video. you owkn, in the 's40 sheas w redding guarit. d i feelik le if it weren't for the inrnteet, if iter wen't for social dimea, i could have been asered. but i chose to be undeniable, an id chose to be loud. anid choseo tbe great. and i'm still here. >> repteorr: lizzo hasad h the courag teo sreha her pain over eth yes,arpe oning up abouter h uts of depresonsi. c>>ame home, i took my cloth es oftof taka e owsher. d ani justta sedrt having all of ese real nlyegative thoughts about myself. >> reporr:te the rap artist's caidnd ttoikk veoid from last cedember gnearring orve 2 millnio view s. >>ay mbe everything, all the anmehi tngs peoe plsay aboumet , e artrue. u know,hy w am i so disgusti?ng hangti my body. t k inow i'm beaufutil. i just don'tee fl it. t i know i'm goingo tget thugroh it. >> when the pressure gettos o much, when the cricitism gets so
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painful, how doou y co?pe w>>hat reayllel hped me is surpringsily the seam thingha tt t gome in th misess. emoting and communicinatg. belieev it or t,no people ar e, she cry all the time! i didn't, i held my tearsor f my tienre life. dan iee fl leik oenc i broke atth llwa, crying becseau i love you was shuc a menomt for me, such a breakthroughmo etionally for me, where i was less haasmed cry. >> repteorr: liz vyer says her abitily to be pliubcly lnvuerable is herru te superperow. g>>od does not give meny athing cnoant hand.le god gave me the gift to be fearlessn i my vulnerabily,it to help ipinsre peleop. >> so like your song "rumor"s, what doou yay s to the herats thisim te ouarnd? iai sd -- ♪ youpe snding all your time yitrng to break a wanom down ♪ ♪ what the b [leep ] igos ing on
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