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there were so many women that were murdered. it was a frightening time. >> it's not far from here that just a week ago today, four more bodies were discovered in a connected series of murders that now numbers at least ten. >> 14 people have been murdered in santa cruz county in the last two months. >> sheriff james believes the women were murdered sometime over easter weekend. they were the 17th and 18th murders in this county this year. >> yeah, we used to hitchhike, but now it's not real safe to do it, so we don't. >> why did you quit? >> because of all the weird things that have been happening with the rapes and girls being chopped up and things like that. >> and then you had the string of murders involving young women on the stanford campus. leslie perlov, janet taylor and arlis perry. >> reporter: i'm investigative journalist, grace kahng. when i first learned about the murders of these three stanford

women that all happened within a year, just over a year, of each other, i was like, okay, there is something very, very wrong here. >> both women were strangled, taylor by hand and perlov with a scarf. both women had been carrying purses, which were not found with the bodies. >> these are murders at one of the most prestigious universities in the country. and how can somebody go around killing three women within a year and get away with it? i was like, this is an unbelievable story. >> this is arlis perry, 19 years old, a bride of two months. was found dead in memorial church sunday morning. she was lying on the floor just below a cross on the east wall. >> reporter: the arlis perry murder was particularly vicious because the killer had a lot of time with her. and she was trapped in

literally the spiritual heart of stanford's campus in the chapel. and her death, and the way she died, was something that really distressed everybody who worked the case. >> that was a time when there were a lot of women who were abducted and, yes, at stanford, you should have, you know, that sense of safety and security. >> i don't go out at night anymore. i used to walk my dog, ride my bike, come to the library. no way. not doing anything like that. my roommate's staying in. no one's around campus anymore. >> it was brutal and tragic and made the more shocking because stanford was such a beautiful place. and the contrast between this revered institution of higher learning and higher education and the brutality of these crimes was really, really stunning. they sent shock waves through the stanford community. and in each case, no arrests were ever made. >> reporter: fortunately, for the families of the victims, some of whom are still alive, california elected its first female sheriff. and i have no doubt that in 1998, if sheriff laurie smith had not become sheriff of santa

clara county, that these murders would never be solved. >> i've been sheriff for probably just over 21 years. and the arlis perry case has been one that i've wanted solved for a long time. i want to put such a focus on working on these cold case crimes now before these guys die. i want them held accountable while they're still alive. we may not have been able to get them way back when, when we didn't have dna, but we can do it now and we need to put a focus on that. >> arlis perry, the last victim in the stanford murders, had just moved to campus from north dakota. you know, i grew up near the border of the dakotas, so i feel very close to the people in arlis perry's life because i had a very similar childhood. these are very, very private people. and when i went back, even though it's been 45 years, in many ways, i found a community frozen in time haunted by her death. >> we lived in a neighborhood in

bismarck that, you know, we all went to the grade school together and that type of thing, and every other house or every third house had a kid in my class. >> it was very safe. no one locked doors. no one locked their cars up. your mother did not worry about you. you wandered around the streets and just went exploring and had fun. >> when we were growing up, we had boy scouts and we had church functions. we had a lot of church functions, you know, so, it was all pretty positive. it was all, i'd say, fairly innocent. >> we'd go build bonfires. we'd go play touch football under the lights at the capital grounds. >> we didn't have any fears about just going off and doing things with friends. we went on road trips together, camping trips. we just had fun together. good, innocent, fun. >> arlis was a very sweet person, very innocent person, very loving person. >> we were cheerleaders together. she was kind.

she was religious. unbelievable smile.le, an - >> she could really talk to you on a deeper level, and i really bonded with arlis, and our friendship really grew, you know, from sophomore year through our freshman year in college. she always had the dream, you know, to get married and have a family and really look forward to that someday. that was one of her dreams. we knew bruce, and of course arlis was a good friend, but we'd never really put them together. >> bruce was very well known in in as far as track and field in north dakota. i mean, he was the man to beat. i'm going to go back in time, but the 100, the 220, the 440. he had 440 relay record, 880 relay record, and also the mile relay record. >> and the kid to watch is bruce perry. here they come. it's a pretty good start.

>> if we were behind in a relay, you gave the baton to bruce, and you knew who was going to win the race. bruce was very well respected in north dakota. his name is, i think, still known pretty well around the state as far as a great track athlete. that's close to 50 years ago. >> arlis and bruce were a great match for each other, and i remember it was kind of the talk of the high school. arlis and bruce went to snowball together. what! you know, i mean, even we found out after the fact. >> bruce and i and arlis attended the fellowship of christian athletes. it was based on athletics, but with a christian belief. and we would get together once a week, and a leader would take you through bible verses or whatever at the time. and they were there every, every week. >> they enjoyed sharing their faith together, and it may have

been a first love type of situation, you know, where they, both just wanted to go to the next level. >> once they started dating, she had a lot to say. she just -- you know, you could tell she had met this really amazing guy, and there was something very special about their relationship. and we knew this might be the guy just from how she talked about him. >> one thing that we were about in that whole group that i ran with, we wanted to get married young. okay, we were looking forward to getting married. i think bruce -- i don't know if he was 20 yet. i know arlis was 19. >> arlis and bruce got married in august of 1974. and i just remember seeing her and just seeing how happy she was and the joy and the anticipation of just being married to bruce. it was just really such a joyous occasion. she asked us to be bridesmaids at her wedding, which was really exciting because we hadn't been,

you know, asked to do that before. we were young. >> we wanted to start our careers and our families and everything else at the time, which i don't think happens today. everybody's waiting, you know, till later to do that, so -- >> bruce and arlis perry drove 1,500 miles to begin married life at stanford. >> she was really excited for her new life. and i'm sure some nervousness, too, but really excited to start their life together because they had been apart their freshman year of college, and that was really difficult. this letter is postmarked september 11, 1974. dear jennifer, we got your letter this afternoon. thanks a bunch. it was great to hear from you. bruce and i are at the library right now. i have to go to a seminar for stanford wives later at 3:30. i'm not sure exactly what it's all about, but maybe i'll get to meet some girls. friends are hard to find here.

many times i've been tempted to go knock on doors, asking if anyone needs a friend. that is the only bad thing i have to say about my new life, but i guess we just have to appreciate each other and trust the lord with new friends, too. one thing i'm certain, he never could give me a friend like you. i love you, jenny. i need your fellowship and strength through your many letters. again, i love you. much love, arlis." >> mrs. arlis perry, 19 years old, a bride of two months, was found dead in memorial church sunday morning. she was lying on the floor just below a cross on the east wall. >> i mean, how could this thing happen at stanford in a church?

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october 12, 1974, arlis perry and bruce perry, who were living together on the stanford campus. arlis was, from what i understand, getting homesick. she had written some letters to mail back home. and arlis said, you know, i'd like to go for a walk and mail these at the post office. >> so far, no luck on a job. i guess the good lord is really trying out my faith and patience. hey, have you had a chance to see our wedding pictures yet? i love you, jenny. keep your faith. in his love, arlis. >> mrs. arlis perry, 19 years old, a bride of two months. was found dead in memorial church sunday morning. she was lying on the floor just below a cross on the east wall. two candles had been used to assault her sexually. she had been strangled and knifed in the back of the head. >> it was a sunday afternoon, and i had taken a nap. >> i was a refereeing men's flag football on a sunday morning down at a local park.

>> i was in college with two of my high school friends. so, you know, we were all there when we found that out. >> my mom came in the room. she sat on the end of my bed and said, um, i have some terrible news. >> liz karlsgard is -- grew up with a family close to the perry's. and i can remember her jumping out of a car and running across the parking lot, screaming at me that arlis had been murdered, arlis has been murdered. >> and i said, mom, what are you talking about? that can't be true. i mean, i just talked to her, you know, not too long before that. i was in such a state of shock. i ran to the phone, and i called wendy and peggy immediately. kathy was in fargo at college. >> i heard it from bruce's dad, dr. dunk perry and dunk had to get on plane as quick as possible and -- and help identify the body.

so it was a -- it was a very long day, a very long week and turned into a very long year. >> i mean, it just hit between the eyes, what had happened. you know, like i said, in bismarck, north dakota, you didn't hear this stuff. >> it was such an innocent time of our lives, and it was squelched. >> the victim's husband, bruce perry, is reported to be in seclusion here at the couple's apartment at quillen house. the student's father was expected to fly in from bismarck to be with his son during this time. when the police are trying to find the slayer of the son's wife. >> i just want people to know that she was just a really special, just a beautiful soul. she had a wonderful spirit for being 19. she just had just a lightness in her spirit. she was just a fun-loving, smart, kind, compassionate, person who had a very strong

faith and just a love for life. >> just eight weeks after friends and family came to toast arlis and bruce at a joyful wedding and send them off to california, they returned to eulogize and lay her to rest in the same church. the emotional whiplash of that traumatic turn of events has persisted for decades. >> my memories of that day, of arlis's funeral, were one's of shock and disbelief. it really hadn't sunk in, i don't think to any of us, what had happened to her, that she was gone. you know, she was with god in heaven, but we had to walk this journey without her. and i remember coming out to the cemetery and seeing the beautiful tree that she's buried near. and just a lot of hugs. i remember hugging bruce and with a broken heart, could

barely look at him. we stuck together. we cried and talked a lot. we reminisced about memories. and we've really done that over 44 years, waiting for the answer to who did this. >> the murder inside stanford's memorial church has a sheriff's homicide detail somewhat baffled. whoever carried out the sex torture slaying of 19-year-old arlis perry left little if any evidence behind. but all indications are that it may have been carried out as part of a bizarre ritual. >> were candles found and paraphernalia that would indicate some sort of ritual had taken place? >> i don't really know at this particular time. i can't answer that question. >> a lot of the talk, rumors, were satanic. could it be cult-related and this and that and the other thing. >> there was a group of guys in town. they dressed like catholic priests, but they had red collars on, and they'd go up to where all the high school kids

hung around up at a&b and king's food hosts. and they would talk to us and argue with us about christianity and god and whatever else, you know. i know arlis got involved in the case of trying to convert them a little bit. and actually i heard that she actually went to a meeting of theirs at one time. >> it got to a point where we didn't know if we really wanted to know everything, but it was in the paper every day. it was on the news every day. >> due to the way that the actual murder looked like a ritual-type of murder. so everybody was assuming that it was part of that -- that type of occultish type ritual. >> one of the theories came from an author, and his theory was that arlis was hunted, stalked and slain in california. >> you have to keep in mind, police and investigators could not tell even the family members the truth about the way she had

died, because it was still an open investigation. so i think that just compounded the problem, and year after year, rumor became fact. >> we didn't know if, uh -- if arlis had talked to somebody she shouldn't have, said something she shouldn't have, or was just revenge of some sort. who knows? i mean, nobody knew. >> it was so horrific. it was so disturbing. not knowing what the truth was or who had done this. i mean, it was -- it was terrifying. >> the mystery behind the murder began to unravel when investigators revisited the original 911 call the night arlis's body was found. >> l-25. >> go ahead l-25. >> we got a stiff in here. >> did you say a stiff? >> this is a cold stiff. i don't know if there's any booze involved or not, but this doa. >> you hear stephen crawford say that we have a stiff in here.

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and so basically, i took them around campus to the -- to the church, to the murder site, and took them to bruce perry's apartment, because they wanted to get a photo of arlis perry. and that experience is still seared in my memory. he had just seen his wife 12 or 15 hours before and still trying to process this horrific news. my recollection is that it was stunning and he was stunned. um, but in some sense, all of us were. i mean, how could this thing happen at stanford in a church? >> when arlis perry was killed, i'd been on the department for about a year. it was something that i was always interested in. this was a promising young woman

who was murdered. and the victims and their families need an answer. >> i can say firsthand that the detectives that worked on this case on the front end in the 1970s put in a lot of work. they talked to hundreds of people. they ensured that the evidence that they collected was preserved. they interviewed and re-interviewed people that they thought they had hunches of maybe some suspicion. and so they took a real hard look at those people. nothing ever panned out with that. and so as you -- you start running out of leads, the case starts going colder and colder. >> fortunately, sergeant is compulsive about details. he went back and re-examined each and every piece of evidence collected the night of the murder. >> bruce and arlis got into a little bit of a quarrel. arlis, being a devout christian, decided to walk over to stanford memorial church and pray. she walked into the church at approximately 20 minutes or so before midnight. bruce went back to the apartment

and after a short period of time realized arlis wasn't coming home. and so he went to the church and got there maybe around midnight, and the doors were locked. so he begins to walk around the campus looking for her, doesn't see her. drives around. can't find her. he comes back and reports her missing to stanford police department. >> you don't really know where she is at, though, do you? >> no, i don't. >> uh-huh. do you want an officer to come by and take a report or something? >> i don't know. i just would like some help trying to find her. >> well, where was she last? >> well, last time i saw her she was walking towards the church. >> uh-huh. how long ago was this? >> it was about at 12:00. >> 12:00? we'll have someone look around for her, and if she does come i, give us a call, huh? >> okay. >> bye-bye. >> i've been sheriff for probably just over 21 years, and the arlis perry case has been one that i've wanted solved for a long time. anytime we would have new detectives in our cold case homicide unit, i would talk with them and ask them to take another look at it. >> it was anywhere between 15 and 20 lead detectives that

investigated the case on top of other detectives who assisted during operations. i would say at least 100 detectives have worked on this case in one way or another. >> we have two exceptional detectives that really went through the case piece by piece. but all of the detectives have worked on it for many years. >> it took just under two months to read through the entire case file one time. and that was just the beginning of it. you have to remember, in cold case investigations, a lot of the standard investigative techniques have been exhausted. and i wanted to come at it from a different angle, and so i just created a list of the things that i wanted to do and move forward on the case. >> crime experts understand that some of the most vexing cases break on the tiniest detail. the stanford murders would surely still be a mystery if it weren't for sergeant rick alanis. alanis spent months reviewing decades of reports. he created fastidious

spreadsheets of all the evidence and reviewed recordings from the night of the murder. alanis kept coming back to the same troubling questions that previous investigators had about the man who had discovered arlis' body -- stanford security guard stephen crawford. >> he was the one that locked up the church. he was the only one that had keys to the place, and he was missing for several hours. >> the dispatcher calls crawford and says, hey, have you seen this girl? she's wearing, you know, the dark jacket, blue jeans, glasses. immediately stephen crawford says, there's nobody in the church. i locked it up. >> i just got a call from an unhappy husband. he and his wife had an argument earlier, and he thinks his wife might have gone into the memorial church. >> hmm. church has already been locked up. >> it's been locked up. there's no one in there at all that you know of? >> no, it was locked up at 12:00. >> did you see a wfa walking

around, blonde, shoulder-length hair, brown suede coat? >> hmm. no, i can't say that i did. >> her name is arlis perry. >> okay. >> if you see her, tell her her husband is sorry he argued with her and tell her to get her ass home. >> okay. i'll keep an eye out for her. >> crawford says he returns at around 5:30 in the morning to open up for sunday mass church and finds arlis perry murdered. >> stanford, l-25. >> go ahead, l-25. >> we got a stiff in here. >> did you say a stiff? >> this is a cold stiff. i don't know if there's any booze involved or not, but this doa. >> you hear stephen crawford say that, we have a stiff in here. i've never heard anybody, especially in law enforcement, who's come across a dead body, describe it in that way. >> it would take 40 years of painstaking work to finally have enough to bring in a suspect. >> any reason why your dna would b on her panties? >> i don't think so.

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four decades later with fresh eyes, seargent rick alanis cracks the unsolved cold case of arlis perry. >> so then sheriff's office homicide investigators get to the scene, and they began a homicide investigation. at about the same time is when stephen crawford leaves. he disappears from the crime scene and nobody can find him for about an hour and a half, two hours. they start looking at the office. they start looking at dispatch. they call stephen crawford's wife looking for him. nobody knows where he's at. >> hello?

>> mrs. crawford? >> yes. >> is your husband there? >> no, what seems to be the problem? >> well, we need him out here. if he comes home or if he calls, tell him to call the station. it's urgent. >> i believe that he was changing clothes. i believe that he was discarding evidence, and i believe he was just cleaning up before he got bck, because he had heard on the radio that they were going to be processing the crime scene, including him. >> the two hours that crawford went missing are precisely the reason that the stanford murders was a mystery that endured for four decades. and there were a lot of detectives who worked this case year after year who really thought that stephen crawford, the security guard, was the major person of interest. but the burden of proof for homicide is a very high bar. and with no physical evidence linking stephen crawford to arlis perry, they couldn't make an arrest. they couldn't even ask for an interview.

>> in the early 2000s, dna starts to develop and becomes a tool for law enforcement. it was in the in early stages. we had a detective, randy bynum, who i believe he -- he thought stephen crawford needed to be looked at a lot closer as well. he organized an operation to follow stephen crawford and collect a discarded cigarette butt. they submitted that cigarette butt to the santa clara county crime lab and developed a dna profile for stephen crawford. >> so, you get this half, i'll get this half. >> 15 years later, that operation paid off. alanis, who was reviewing all of the clothing collected the night of murder, realized that a key piece of evidence had been mislabeled. >> i noticed these pants were labeled 36x32, and those size of pants would not belong to somebody of arlis perry's stature. so i went back to the office and

looked at the spreadsheets and confirmed that they had been mislabeled as arlis's pants when really they were bruce perry's pants. arlis perry's pants had never been tested for dna. so when i realized that, i immediately ensured that these pants were sent to the santa clara county crime lab, and in 2015 i was notified that semen dna profile was located on arlis perry's pants and that partial profile matched that of stephen crawford. >> in 2016, alanis somehow charmed crawford into coming in for a voluntary interview. >> you can have a seat here. >> thank you. >> yeah. i wanted him in that interview to feel like he was in control. i've learned his personality is anytime he had male confrontation, he would shut down and not cooperate. you want a cup of coffee? >> no thanks. >> no thanks? okay. some water? >> i'm pretty well all set.

>> so basically i asked him, you know, hey, we're here to talk about what happened. you know, we're still looking into it. arlis's family is still, you know, seeking justice and what happened to their daughter, and i wanted to talk to him about the incident. and he basically tells me, i don't think at all about that case. and i kind of like popped up and i said, you don't? he goes, no. i've talked to child molesters, murderers, people who commit horrid crimes. stephen crawford's eyes when i looked into him after he said that, they were the coldest i've ever seen in my life. i wanted to eliminate any innocent reason as to why his dna would have been on arlis' clothes, so i basically asked him, had you met her before? did you know her? did you talk to her? no. i said okay. did you guys have -- were you concerned at the time because you were having an affair, some

sort of sexual meetup with her? and he's getting real defensive, looking at me, and staring at me with eyes that i can only explain as, you know, you know something that i know and i'm not going to say it. any reason why your dna would be on your blue jeans? >> only because i was there. >> okay. any reason why your dna would be on her panties? >> i don't think so. was she dressed at that time, or --? >> so then i asked him, basically, is there any reason why your semen dna would be on her clothing? and he shut the interview down. he basically said that now i suddenly feel like i am being interrogated, and i would like to go home. >> crawford went home after that 2016 interview, but in 2018, police returned for a final confrontation. >> gun, gun. mr. crawford, put the gun away. >> why are you coming in here? [ gunshot ]

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>> i'm sorry, say what? >> it's the sheriff's office. can you come to the door. okay, thank you. >> i noticed that the window is open. we had been in there in 2016, so i knew that his bed was right next to the window. the blinds were drawn, so i couldn't see inside the apartment, but i could hear stephen crawford inside acknowledge me. a few minutes go by, and i notice a blind open up. and i see stephen crawford's face look right at me with his glasses. >> hi, mr. crawford. how are ya? >> pretty good. >> can you open the door for us? >> sure. let me put on some clothes real quick here. >> okay. >> one second. >> okay, thank you. right there was the first time that i got a really weird feeling in that, okay, he remembers me from 2016, because he looks right at me, and he knows what we're there for.

we're there to talk about murder. >> we gave him several minutes to get dressed. >> mr. crawford, how you doing? >> ah, pretty well. i -- i move kind of slow. i'm sorry. >> okay. i just want to make sure you're okay. >> sure. what's up? >> i wanted to let him think that he was in control. that was ultimately my game plan. ball's in his court. i'm going to let him run with this. i ask him, hey, just go ahead and open the door. we can help you get dressed. it's nothing to be embarrassed about. i'm trying to sell it to get into the apartment. you doing all right, mr. crawford? >> yeah, i'm having difficulty getting my leg -- my leg -- >> mr. crawford, we can help you out. >> yeah, that's okay. i would be a little bit embarrassed about that. >> okay. it was absolutely my call to take a very low-key approach to the service of this search warrant.

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mr. crawford, put the gun away. >> why are you coming in here? [ gunshot ] >> i heard the loudest gunshot i've ever heard in my life. > i heard that there had been a shooting, and so myself and i think the under sheriff and the assistant sheriffs, we drove to the location of his apartment. >> is anybody hit? >> nobody hit. torres is fine. >> mr. crawford put the gun away. did he shoot himself? >> i don't know. >> noe, do you have a visual inside? yeah. >> as i came up to that front door, i could see mr. crawford was on the bed and, there was blood. >> okay. he's down. he's down. is he moving at all? like, do you feel like you could get in there and move the gun or

do you want to wait. >> he can't -- he's not moving at all. mr. crawford. mr. crawford. nothing. there's nothing. anyone else in the apartment? anyone else in the apartment? >> it had appeared that stephen crawford had shot himself in the head. >> we still have unanswered questions. we can't ask him any other questions about maybe any other murders, um, but he killed himself. >> in my opinion, i think he knew that this case was getting close to being solved, and he knew he was a perpetrator. >> i truly believe that stephen crawford lived as a coward and he died as a coward. and that's how i feel about it. >> crawford used a large revolver to shoot himself in the head as he was lying in bed.

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so in 2016, when i was assigned to the cold case unit, i started to review the leslie perlov homicide. it was a brutal crime. she was brutally attacked, and i believe she fought for her life. >> she put up a fight. there was evidence under all ten of her fingernails. >> the dna from perlov's nails did not belong to stephen crawford, but it did belong to yet another former stanford employee. >> the crime lab was able to develop an investigative lead through genealogy.

a person of interest who they named as john getreu. >> that person of interest, john getreu, had worked for stanford's cardiology department. getreu is a married father of two, who i learned lived just blocks from leslie perlov at the time that she was killed. fortunately, getreu still lived in the bay area, and noe and his team quickly moved to collect getreu's dna by following him and acquiring it from a discarded coffee cup. >> i sent that to the santa clara county crime lab. they confirmed that the dna on that item was the same dna that was underneath the fingernail clippings of leslie perlov. >> noe -- all i remember is noe was trying to get a hold of me, and all he said was, diane, we got him. >> more than 45 years after the death of leslie perlov, the santa clara county sheriff's office now believes they have the man responsible.

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when you identify a victim, they put you in a little box and you stand there, and you're looking into the box. and they go okay, and they open the curtains. well, i passed out. i was, like, so disturbed i collapsed. you know, i can see her body right now. it's one of those images that are burned into my mind forever. >> she sustained trauma where she had been struck several times. >> she appeared to have been beaten. and she was then strangled. >> she was not sexually assaulted in the sense of a completed sexual assault, but her pants in the crotch area had been ripped. that became really important eventually. >> it's safe to say it was a sexually motivated crime. >> but she wasn't sexually

assaulted. >> no, she was not. >> she was a fighter by all accounts from her friends. >> janet had a brown belt in karate. she knew how to defend herself. >> so that would tell me she probably did fight more than he had anticipated. and he may have had to kill her before he had wanted to. and that's why, while it was a sexually motivated crime, she was not sexually penetrated that we could see. >> i mean, i blame myself. >> why? >> well, if i wouldn't have been working that day, i would have gave her a ride. it was unimaginable. i mean, she was a kind soul. she was really a giving person. i can't imagine anybody hurting her. >> from the beginning, investigators suspected perlov and taylor were killed by the same man. both women were 21. both were brutally beaten, strangled and killed on the stanford grounds.

>> i got a call from noe cortez and, he informed me that they had identified and arrested john getreu. so that's when we started putting pressure on our lab. hey, we need to know if these are connected. and they have results, and they have information. we need to get on board if we're going to be part of this. >> i received evidence which was mostly clothing. i received green corduroy pants. i got a bra. i got a sweater, and i got some other items. i examined the pants, and i noticed that around the crotch area, there was a tear. and i wasn't sure what the tear was from, but i noticed that it was unusual. and i thought, well, i am going to go ahead and swab it. and i was able to obtain a profile from that that was a male profile. >> there was no semen that was found. potentially i guess it could be some saliva. they couldn't determine that. we just have male dna or touch dna, which is amazing.

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my sister, margaret, as a young child brought a lot of joy to our family. she was a very caring kind of person. and when my sister died, some of the joy of the family was stolen. >> margaret was fairly quiet. both of us were. i think probably every child thinks their childhood is a normal childhood. it is only as you get older that you notice maybe it wasn't. my father and his father before him were ministers. >> my father was an army chaplain. he was a pastor in the military, and was serving at bad kreuznach at a military base there. >> for the second time in europe, germany the frontier. >> bad kreuznach is a community in germany. it's not real large, but an army base was established there at one time.

>> many of those with families life in apartment billings in totally american communities. >> the military community was about 2,000 people. so it was like a very small town. everyone knew everybody, so i think that gave them a feeling of safety and security. my sister was a freshman in high school. john getreu was a junior in high school. he was 18, so he was older for a junior. 18 and my sister has been described to me by a couple of classmates as being one of the very innocent girls. and so there was an activity at the aya, the american youth activities building, also just called the teen center. and they'd get together and play some records and dance. and so there was this afterschool gathering. my parents were expecting her home by 11:00 that night, and the activity ended at 10:30. something my father wrote, he was talking about how it started raining. so he drove to the youth activities building, and he found out she had left five minutes before he got there. when she didn't arrive home, he hoped that she had just stopped

because of the rain and then would be coming along soon. but then when she did not arrive by midnight, they called authorities and said, our daughter always shows up for curfew and she's not home. her body was found, i think, at 1:11 a.m. >> to your knowledge, how was she killed? >> uh, she was strangled. and, um -- yeah. there were friends of hers that, as they saw her step out of the building said, do you want to go with us? and i suspect that margaret, in that matter of meeting curfew was just oriented on, here are my parents' expectations. it's time for me to go home. and she was seen with john getreu outside of that building by more than one person. she had evidently walked with him, and her walk with him led to a baseball field that was

behind the youth activities building, where he raped and murdered her. >> it was really rough. my mother never wanted to see my sister's dead body at all. so we had a closed casket. for a real long time after that, i still couldn't believe my sister was dead. i was looking for her everywhere i went. i expected to see her. >> john getreu was convicted in german courts as a juvenile in 1964. that meant that he would end up with a shorter sentence and he would also be in juvenile detention. >> the maximum sentence for a juvenile at the time was 10 years for homicide. for some reason, getreu only served six years. and we found this memo, and it

basically said, john getreu will be released from germany march 7, 1969. and he must leave in 24 hours. >> they released him on one day, and he was on a plane the next day to the united states. and it's kind of like germany going, okay, out of our hands ♪. in the last ten years or so, it just started nagging at me more and more the thought that he would commit more violent crimes. so i was able to look up his name. i knew his age. and i found that he was a resident in california. that got my attention and made me think he could potentially be the golden state killer. but i did not know that he committed anymore violent crimes, but i thought that because of the particulars of what had happened with my sister that he would commit more violent crimes. >> john getreu was able to kill other women because he cloaked himself in this image as a

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>> i really felt like, you know, nobody really knew what john was like. he just had this persona about him that everybody was like, him that everybody was like, oh, he's such a great guy. and i'm over here going, oh, my goodness, if anyone could just really know, what a real -- what the real guy was like. >> i met john getreu in redwood city. he was the cast tech in the orthopedic department. i worked there as a receptionist. when i first met him, he's very nice, very pleasant. and everybody seemed to like him. i didn't know anybody who didn't like him. um, he was very, yeah, he was very likable. >> i didn't like him from the -- pretty much the minute i met him. he tried to be my dad. like, trying to take that role even before they were engaged. for instance, there was an alley behind our apartment building that was really one of the only places to play. otherwise, we're on frontage

road of the freeway, you know? so, you know, there was the carport area and the alley behind. and when he came, i was all of a sudden not allowed to play in the alley. and he caught me playing in the alley one time, and that -- he was going to whip me with his belt. those are like the first memories that i have of him trying to be my dad and me not really wanting that. >> you know, at that time, john was also babysitting my daughter when i would go and play -- go bowling. i bowled once a week. >> yeah, yeah. he babysat me. i don't know how often, but i definitely remember him babysitting me. i remember him hanging me off the fricking balcony by my feet. you know, he's standing on the balcony, and i'm hanging over the railing, looking down at the ground, two stories down. i thought i was going to land on my head and die. and he thought -- he was laughing at it. and i'm freaking out. scary.

very, very scary to me. the biggest thing i remember is when she told me they were going to get married and i was just like, no, don't do that. please don't do that. i pretty much begged her not to marry him. there was nothing about him i liked. i was very uncomfortable from the minute i met him. and i tried really hard to impress that on my mom, but she just didn't see what i saw apparently. 'cause then she married him. >> i can't describe whether she changed when i married him or not. i didn't see a change in her. i was at work all day long. my daughter was in school. so i never was there if he was off a day. i don't know what he did when he was off on the days he didn't go to work. i have no clue what he did. >> i used to beg her not to go to work. it wasn't so bad when they worked at the same times. it's just sometimes she worked

nights, which really sucked because then i was stuck with him babysitting me, and that was never -- never a fun time. he molested me on a daily basis from age 6 to age 14. basically makes me touch him, and tells me that if i tell anyone, he will hurt my mother. and basically, at that moment forward, he will do whatever the heck he wants to do to me, and i won't say a freaking word about it, because if i do, he's going to hurt my mother. and i believed every word he said, because he made it very clear to me he had that power. >> talk to me about what this guy was doing to a 6-year-old girl. >> um, well, he was coming into her room in the middle of the night, and i'd wake up with the man in my pants and it was like, freaky. i wondered why -- why me?

what did i do to have this put upon me? because i was pretty sure this was not right. it just -- none of it felt right ever. i just always knew this isn't -- this is not supposed to be happening. you know, he wanted me to call him daddy, but in my head, daddies don't do to their little girls what he did to me. so, you know, there were times when, you know, like, come sit on the couch with me, and just be my little girl, and just treat me like i was his daughter. and then other times i was his sex slave, you know? his -- do -- do whatever i want you to do. i mean, yeah, it was -- it sucked.

definitely not something little people should ever have to deal with. >> she never told me anything about what happened to her. and then she told me that he told me he would kill you if i told you. that was just like, oh, my god, wat did he do? you know, he scared the [ bleep ] out of her. >> i never felt there was anyone i could talk to, go to. no one was going to save me. >> as a child, cathi was the only one who knew her stepfather was a monster. what she didn't know was that she was living with a killer. >> no one was going to save me. the only thing that was going to save me from -- from him was his death. on it, with jardiance.

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it was a long time. i didn't think it was ever going to end. it felt like an eternity. i felt like it was my whole

childhood basically, gone. he used to bring me animals. he knew i loved animals. and he worked at stanford. he had access to animals all the time. he used to bring animals home all the time. and those animals used to disappear all the time. brought me a rat one time and it lived in a cage and it was perfectly fine and it wasn't doing anything to hurt anyone. and he decided that it was a bad rat and it needed to die. and i needed to watch it die. so he, he made me watch him kill the rat. he put the rat in a jar of formaldehyde. and i had to watch the rat die. that became kind of regular. i sort of learned not to get attached to the animals so much because he was probably going to take them away from me at some point. >> 24 hours a day, 7 days a week john getreu had power and control over this young child. and part of that was because john could never hold a steady job.

susan was working three jobs. they moved every year. she was trying to make ends meet. and she was so just was so frantically trying to do the right thing and put food on the table and pay the bills, john was cathi's primary caretaker. >> he knew everything i did. he knew if i smoked a cigarette. he would know, oh, you were in the park smoking. i know you were. he knew about my conversations with my friends. he knew things that i really had no idea how he would know. he used to come at me and tell me, you know, oh, you're not doing this. you know, whatever it was, you're not going there. you're not going there. and i'd be like, wait a minute. how would you know that? because that was a phone conversation i had with my friend. later realized that he was listening to my phone conversations. he had taken the ear bud from my television and he had hardwired

it into the phone jack and ran it behind their waterbed and up so he could just listen. the night of my eighth grade graduation dance, he decided that i wasn't going to the dance. and he was going off about my friends. my friends were no good and something about my friends. and i just jumped out in the hallway and i just said [ bleep ] you [ bleep ] my friends don't have anything to do with any of this. and he just freaking came at me. and the bathroom. i just was like, okay, bathroom. run in the bathroom, try to lock the door. i'm holding the door, trying to lock it and he's kicking it. um, and kicked the door in. there was a big hole in the door and jacked up my arm. yeah, yeah. he broke my arm. >> shortly after that violent showdown, instinct kicks in, and at a family gathering something leads susan to walk upstairs and open a closed bedroom door. >> we were in salinas,

california, at my sister-in-law's house. it was away from everybody where nobody would have heard or you nobody would have heard or seen and i just happened to walk in. >> the day my mom walked in on john getreu performing oral on me. probably the most uncomfortable, horrible experience of my entire life, but at the same time was the best day of my life because finally my mom knew what was happening and she would stop it. >> and i just was like, whoa, what are you doing? i didn't see what he was doing. and i just turned around. i just went, what the hell are you doing to my daughter? he immediately became panicked, because we were at his sister's house. and we went for a ride and he tried to get himself out of it. and i said, oh, no, no, no. you're not -- no, this is not happening. i was -- i didn't know what to do. i was beside myself. and to just think that somebody would do

this to a child, just appalled me. >> i mean, he didn't ever touch me again after that, but, um, but i think she tried to fix it. she took us all to a shrink. >> we did go see a psychologist, and the psychologist proceeds to tell me, well, you know, that does happen between stepdaughters and stepfathers. and i went, oh, no, no. and i just went, that's it, we're done. >> that just shut her down right then and there. she wasn't going to go any further with that. and he moved out. that was the end of that. after john left, freedom came to me, and i took full advantage of that freedom. >> she was in high school, and she wasn't going. and i had a counselor meeting with two people standing there, looking at me going, oh, well, if she shows up it's okay, and if she doesn't, that's okay too. and i'm going, no, it's not. she needs to go to school. i couldn't -- i couldn't stop her from doing what she did.

>> i did a lot of drugs. and i -- i definitely blame john for -- for ruining my life. he killed my education, my childhood, my young adulthood. i went down a lot of really bad roads that i could have avoided -- pretty sure would have avoided if i hadn't felt the need to escape reality on a daily basis. >> she and i have talked about it and it's like, i feel really guilty. i've told her that. i said, i feel really guilty because i wasn't there to protect you. so, you know, she says, well, i don't blame you. i said, well, but i feel guilty. it's like i should have known, but i didn't. and it's just really hard to accept that. >> 74-year-old john getreu was arrested at his home in hayward yesterday. >> his sister called me and she says, susan, i have something to tell you. john's been arrested for murder.

and i'm going, what? >> the two murders happened one area a part in the '70s. >> i found out when, and i'm going, oh, my god, he did it when he was married to me. oh, my god, and i never had no clue, no idea, no anything. because he never showed that side of him. he never showed that he was even capable of doing that. you never imagined him being that way. >> my mom called me, said she had some news and asked me if i was sitting down. and um -- wow. that was -- i didn't know exactly how to react. i was kind of happy in a way. sad for the people that he had hurt, but really happy that he finally got caught. >> blindsided by the revelation that his father is a killer, a son comes out of the shadows to challenge his dad.

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when susan realizes the man she had married is a monster, she divorces john getreu. but somehow, incredibly, just five months later, this master manipulator woos and marries a second woman, lynda caputo. the getreus remained married for 25 years until lynda died of cancer in 2003. they had two children including a son, aaron. >> this is not the man who raised me.

never once did i ever think that he could do something like this. >> john getreu's success was based on his ability to hide in plain sight. he, in the '70s played, the role of the loving husband and stepfather in palo alto, and then later in the '80s and '90s he was the soccer coach and soccer dad to his two other children. when you speak to those closest to him, they had no clue about his true nature. >> i am so in shock. they've been very quiet neighbors. >> residents of hayward's fairway park neighborhood had no idea a man at the center of a 45-year-old cold case murder was living among them. >> this is a loving man, family man. i mean, this is the man that was there until the last second my mom died. that never any indication he could have done anything like what he's being accused of. >> would you say that you grew

up in a loving household where you knew that your dad loved you? >> yes, i would say i grew up in a loving household. i mean, it would be crazy to say he wasn't a loving father. he was a big part of our lives. i felt like our family is a typical all-american family. my mom and dad were very involved in our lives with school, sports. my dad was a baseball coach, soccer coach. he was there for everything. he wasn't putting on an act. that's who he was. you know, he told us, you know, when you have a girlfriend, you know, no means no. you know, you show respect and you treat women with respect. you know, don't let me catch you abusing a girlfriend or anything like that. >> and no means no? >> no means no. >> my name is christy getreu, and i first got to know john getreu in 2005. he was at the hospital when my son was born.

he would offer to change diapers. he would feed the baby. he would bathe the baby. i mean, he loved his grandchildren, and, you know, loved being around them. and i never felt uncomfortable, ever. i never had that creepy feeling or never thought like, oh, that was kind of weird to say. why would he say something like that? i never ever felt that, ever. >> everything in my life changed november of 2018. >> more than 45 years after the death of leslie perlov, the santa clara county sheriff's office now believes they have the man responsible. >> kind of blew me out of the water. and i thought there's no way. it had to be they got the wrong person. you know, i drive home. i tell my wife christy what's going on. she's blown away also. >> honestly, all i kept saying was what the [ bleep ] what the [ bleep ] are you kidding me? is this a joke? what's going on?

>> and then all of a sudden you start thinking back on your life, did i miss something? and then they put on that there's one in ziptillion chance that it's anybody else. and then you think, oh -- that's legit. when the initial story came out, it said on there he was arrested for the killing of margaret williams. and then you call my aunt and uncle and ask them. and they told us that that story is true. yes, this happened in germany. we knew it happened, and it was a family secret. >> was that shocking? >> yes, very shocking. because that's not my dad. it was like your whole world stopped. that's how it felt. your heart sunk. like, there's just no way this could be happening. >> do you have any doubt that the person who did those things is your dad? >> i don't want to believe it, but it's reality. it's the truth. you know? so i don't doubt that he ever did it. it just -- it's hard to think

that he -- that it's true. >> when's the last time you talked to your dad? >> i have not spoken to him since he was arrested in november of 2018. >> why haven't you spoken to him? >> just the lies. you know, it's -- what can you believe? there's no point for me to talk to him because i don't know if he's going to tell me the truth. >> i think he hasn't spoken to his father just because he feels like basically his whole childhood was a lie. you know, this man that raised him is not who we all thought he was. >> do you know that he wants to talk to you? >> for me to talk to my dad, he needs to come out and tell the truth. dna does not lie, so we know that part, and there possibly could be more out there. they don't just stop. you know, that's the scary part. how many are there? you know, you don't know. it's scary to think that there's more out there. come out and tell me now how many more victims there are. let's let the loved ones get their closure, and it's over.

you're caughtle. you're never getting out of jaille you're going to die in jail, but let's get closure out of this. >> closure for one family. we can report that just days ago after a two-week trial, john getreu was found guilty of the 1974 murder of janet taylor. >> took the jury two hours to reach the verdict. the merd of leslie perlov yet to come. >> i'm david muir. for all of us here at abc news and "20/20," good night.

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