>> moving forward and finding solutions this is abc 7 news. anchor: you are watching "getting answers" live on are trying to get anshulu rsino t real-time. we have an interesting program, great exchange. today we are going to dr. david julius and won the nobel prize for medicine. mask guidelines, vaccines and so much to talk about when it comes to covid-19 and developing situation and i bring in special

correspondent. great to be with you. >> great to see well. let's begin with a challenge. two truth and a lie. if you are watching on facebook. >> our viewers are really smart, i'm sorry. which one is not true, is it a, a new study suggest that children share the same risk as adults or is it b, by december, 2000 million rapid tests will be available to americans. or c, and world's first approved vaccine. which one is not true?

>> c is true. i'm going to say not true is >> are you going to check in with the audience or dive right in? >> some of our viewers are shaking their heads because b is true. a is true. this one is important because we know that children and adults empark in different and catching covid at the same rate and children can pass it on to others. b is true. i wish this led line was happening about a year ago.id tf more americans and c -- i told i you i was going to be mean. it was developed by glrch

laxnos. and we have been focusing. malaria has killed thousands and thousands of people especially to people under the age of 5. >> there is a vaccine for malaria but just notoldou y i te iticky. say who developed the real headline is they have a real vaccine for mala yeah. >> we have a lot of focus or covid-19 and can't vision because there are a lot of things and you have to imagine without access to vaccines and dealing with diseases like malaria. >> some of the things we are following with covid. what is your reaction to the new

guidelines and hearing a mixed feedback say it is too confusi room for subjectiv e>> there is room for subjective judgment in the way it is written. i have the criteria pulled up right here. and talking about hospitalizations in the jurisdiction low and stable and we would love to see a closer definition would like to say at least there is some sense of an off ramp and people saying when is this going to end? then pandemic is g end and a county having a high vaccination rate rate. in san francisco, they have done everything right for so long, why are we still wearing masks

when 100% of the people and you could wear a mask if youant vaci agree with you, the recommendations are a w lld defo people living in certain counties and hear what is announced. >> i love these new mask guidelines and new metric is very strict. headline sounds grt the masknes may not change in any communities for a coupleths, i >> it is a high bar. and my instinct tells me that is abundance of caution, we have seen surgees from the delta variant. in this situation, things are different now. we have more vaccines available and it's possible that we are on the tail end of this delta

80% vaccination rate and yellow entire from the c.d.c. and hospitalizations, that is a high bar. hopefully after this headline gets out there that we g updates and see what is going to happen and it will be a long time to wear a mask in a business that has 100% vaccination. and some of the guidelines don't make sense. does it make sense you would take a mask off while eating when eating or put it on whe walking when is 100% vaccinated. >> just continuing to try to keep people disciplined wearing masks as much as possible. this is a bit of a birdwalk and takef the picture and this is hindsight 20/20 andd

everyone wearing a mask you are relatively frome covid-19 if everyone is wearing masks. could we have averted the shutdown. >> it's harday - >> the length of the shutdown. >> in a theoretical world, had we shutorld down if we can do that, everyone worn masks we have controlled this pandemic. so perhaps in the very beginning, could we have been morere a testing, screeningtact tracing that would have been an a moment us. our response was disjointed. we are looking at a differentntn

california. and it's going to differ. we have to take into account that in other stas lower vaccinati with no mask mandates, people will be traveling. wlcaemuome any concern in theme begin once again to ease the mask mandates and mass restrucks even as they continue to inch up, could we create another opportunity for a surge a month or two from now? is that still or are which out of the surge woods at this point? >> it is safe to say in some we are very well protected against the surge. if you look at cases are on thes delta and if you look at data, that's cases across the country.

our percent positive activity, everything is going down. you have a lower vaccination rate and we have seen over the past year spots swirling around in this country and right rising numbers in states which weren't seeing earlier surges. which hee professional if they are concerned or not. i have plenty of colleagues in some states that are very concerned where vaccination rates are low. >> most folks in the bay area are just fine keeping their masks on indoors. when do we get to the point of relaxing or removing the mandate? will it make a difference in the bay area? >> that's ok. i think it's important to tell people if you have an individual concern and s are worried about and at home

with someone who is at high risk, do you have a medical condition and that is an individual decision. in other countries, dan, especially in asian people start to feel ill and they wear a mask. if you have a fever and could you having, if you have the flu, maybe you mask. you should not be in public or going to work and people do it any way maybe think about covering up and not coughing on surfaces. we will see mask wearing especially seasona for the near future. >> i think it's. forehe pandemic, have looked with a bit of confusion about why people are wearing masks for seemingly no reason and two, proof is in the

last year, we had no flu season because we all wearing masks. i hope if i have the discipline and not feeling well, i intend to wear a ptect others. >> not only that and i have faith in you that young to do that. but there is a certain amount of awareness and accountability. and someone came to work and sneadsing and so-and-so is sick and i don't know who would pay attention, what did you touch, were you coughing, we don't need to police everyone but i hope there is more attention to that. we do it in the hospital, if sid them home before covid-19 or can't go he, a mask,tection and gloves. and that is a responsible practice. >> and the last few years before

covid, go to shake their hand, and say i have a cold. people are more considerate about that and that is enhanced because of what we have done with covid-19. taking a quick and this continues

welcome back on "getting news" we are here with my dear friend dr. patel and there is an asterisk on two truth and a lie.

this is round two, wrapping up. if you are in a city without a mask mandate, where are you wearing a mask, two truths and a lie. >> we have smart anchors and viewers. so tell me which one of these ir transplant candidate was bumped off the list for not getting the covid vaccine or b an independent committee or is it c, c.d.c. estimates, 400,000 hoppizations from the flu in 2019? which one of these is not true. >> oh, brother, these are good. i'm going to say c is not true. >> i love the shock and approach here. go with your instinct. c is actually true. i have to wipe the smile off my

face and i go back to c and why that is so important. a actually is a kidney transplant candidate was bumped off the list. >> this is another one of your trick questions. >> it is technically not true. and bringing up an important. if you are in line to get an organ transplant and you will be asked not to smoke for six months. and b, we are waiting for this study. and this is from the n.i.h. to mix and match different vaccines and c is important. a lot of people are reluctant and people say people die from it. one thing we have seen in the pandemic, you can overburden the health care system.

so a lot of people were hospitalized in 201 and do not want to see it happen this year. unlike last winter, people are taking off their masks and we have a potential for a surge and other cold viruses. >> these are great questions and thought propose voaking.

>> right out to my window in case anyone hears that. so two answers here, dan. am i concerned at this exact moment based on the available data, i'm not. the delta varypt is occupying more than 95% cases and concern with that variant it's possible that varypt has mutations that will allow it to have a better defense. the reason i'm concerned the delta varypt is more transmiss i believe and we have great protection against the delta variant if we get vaccinated but i'm concerned the potential of being another variant and saw this happen. is it possible that another mutation can happen later on down the line that could wreak havoc? and that is the potential and no

one is cheering and saying the end is near. we have better technology and early detection and awareness and testing but the threat still looms. >> are we going to be living with covid-19 that we will be living with this for years to come in one form or another like a flu shot and need a vaccination or booster shot? is that still the thinking? >> i have not heard from one doctor or public health expert who thinks that this is going to disappear. the vast majority of researchers said it will be endemocratic and jumping around it will be around and we have so many other viruses including viruses.

now are we going to need a vaccine every year? it's. >> might be three dosees and we have much longer if not lifelong protection. that remains to be seen and i think the virus is going to be around and what we are going to do co-exist. >> we will have to figure out how to live with it. dr. patel and thanks for your insight. we are going to talk to a doctor who won the nobel but hey, i just got a text from my sister. you remember rick, her neighbor? sure, he's the 76-year-old guy who still runs marathons, right? sadly, not anymore. -what, you mean-- -mhm.

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doctor and he just won a nobody el prize for medicine. >> pretty cool to see. you won this for your work on pain sensation which is an area of expertise and something your community has learned more and more about over the last few decades and tell us what you did. >> we have identified molecules, proteins on the surface on our nerve fibers that would be in your skin or eyes that sense painful and sense things like heat or cold.

and what did that tell you how pain works in our bodies? >> first of all, it tells us how we defect those things. if you touch an ice cube or stove, you take it for grnted that your understanding something is at a different temperature. we provided an explanation. what are the molecules on your nerve cells that allow you to appreciate changes in ambient temperature and this is important for our sense of touch and when you touch a hot stove, but these molecules get modulated when there is injury and they participate in that way in the again he cyst or initiation of chronic pain syndromes. >> will this be instrumental in proving pain management going forward?

>> well, we hope so. the work from not just my lab but the field but we are using to identify more and more players in the so-called pain pathway and the hope is more those are identified and the more we understand about them, the more targets we will have for development of drugs other than say poid or aspirin-based drugs. >> this is a big deal. how did you find out that you had won. >> that is a funny story and the nobel committees don't have direct phone numbers and searching around and and got a a hold of my sister law in lives in the south bay and contacted her and asked for my phone number. she didn't understand who she was and got their number and suggested that i call them.

that's the route and we got in touch with one another. >> that's a fantastic story. what was your reaction when you heard this news. >> there are so many great discoveries and scientists who are deserving. when you get that phone call, it's quite astounding. i know my lab and folks in my lab have done great work and so many great discoveries and quite a shock, i have to say and up at 2:00 in the morning and the day unfolds and keeps going and going and going. the nobel prize garners so much attention from the public and it is a fantastic whirl wind. >> it is a personal and professional thrill for you and huge feather in your cap. as you suggest one of the great things about it, it does foster

interest in your work and the scientific community and raises awareness of the important work being done out there, doesn't it? >> that is true. just in the same way that you have academy awards for the screen and emmies, et cetera, it brings attention to creative work and i consider science to be in that area. >> i have to run on air and we'll continue on facebook.

>> what a fks in his cap. thank you for joining us we

covered covid-19. we will be here at 3:00 and on live stream answering your questions. we appreciate your time and see tonight, several developing stories on this friday night. children and the vaccine. tonight, the cdc with a new time line for vaccinations for children 5 to 11. this could start in less than a month. we have the time line tonight and how this will work. how much of the vaccine in each dose, and those two doses three weeks apart. tonight, why authorities say even as we appear to turn the corner, why we have to be vigilant in protecting children. tonight, the rare covid complication affecting some children that can include fever, rash, and inflammation of the heart. also tonight, president biden rejecting a request from former president trump. biden refusing to block the release of trump white house

document to the january 6th committee. the former president had argued