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♪ this is "nightline." >> tonight, january 6th, one year later. david muir with three police officers who defended the capitol from that violent mob. >> the world now knows that moment in a doorway. can you still see and hear the voices? >> oh, absolutely. >> haunted but undeterred. >> i returned to the crime scene every single day. >> one thing they now fear. >> do you believe it's possible we see something like that again? >> 100%, yes. women of the movement. the groundbreaking television event. >> let the people see what they did to my boy. >> renewed attention and respect for mamie till mobley, the mother of emmett till.
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how her courage helped ignite the civil rights movement. >> it's powerful, and it was history-changing. >> and the struggles black mothers still face. >> just trying to find a place where your kids can grow up safe and healthy and whole. that is a struggle, a conversation that every mother has. up at 2:00am again? tonight, try pure zzzs all night. unlike other sleep aids, our extended release melatonin helps you sleep longer. and longer. zzzquil pure zzzs all night. fall asleep. stay asleep. when you really need to sleep you reach for the really good stuff. new zzzquil ultra helps you sleep better and longer when you need it most. it's non habit forming and powered by the makers of nyquil. new zzzquil ultra. when you really really need to sleep.
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good evening, everyone. thanks so much for joining us. i'm linsey davis. tomorrow marks one year since the insurrection at the capital. abc's david muir sat down with three police officers who were there, the men still recovering from the wounds of that day with an urgent message tonight. >> this is the first time all three of you have sat down for an interview since you testified? >> yes. >> correct. >> nearly a year later, do you all still live this? >> yes. every single day. the way i sleep. getting breakfast. making sure i don't hurt myself putting my shirt on. the phone calls from the justice department, from the fbi. asking for, do i recognize this individual? it hasn't been easy. >> i think it's just as simple as working a crime scene, you know? going to work at the capitol
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every day, it's a constant reminder of, you know, what happened. i return to the crime scene every single day. >> you have talked about what you saw, what you heard that day. >> everybody knows what happened. and if you disagree with what happened, then i don't know what to tell you, because we watched, america, the world, watched this attack. it got to the point where i stop trying to convince people about what happened. now i want accountability for what did happen. >> you talked about the racial slurs. >> uh-huh. >> saying it was the first time anyone had ever hurled a slur at you while wearing the uniform. >> yeah. you know, it's so much that happened that day, still so much horror and trauma that happened that day, to a white guy and a dominican guy. >> do you remember that moment?
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>> sure. >> when it was finally over with and you were sitting on the floor at the capitol and you turned to your friend and you asked that question? >> is this america? how could something like that happen? you know? at the u.s. capitol. the pinnacle of democracy. >> sergeant gunnell, you were beaten with a flagpole, you had chemicals sprayed at you, so much that it soaked your clothes through to your skin. you've said there were moments when you actually thought you were going to die. >> yes. i struggle because i was getting pulled -- i didn't want to get pulled to the crowd. they were pulling me by my leg, by my shield, by my shoulder strap. and we don't know what those people had in those bags. because i couldn't even move my arms. i thought to myself that i wouldn't make it out of there alive. >> you thought your life was in greater danger in those moments --
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>> yes. >> -- than during your entire deployment in iraq? >> yes, sir. >> what were they saying to you? >> what were they not saying? >> traitor. >> traitor. join us, you're breaking your oath. >> some of them were showing badges? >> this hand with ppened with m. the moment i -- what the hell, a badge? >> i did see people with military paraphernalia, veterans, veterans for trump. >> i know you finally got home at 4:00 a.m. and your wife wanted to give you a hug. >> she did. and it pains me. and all she wanted to do was hug me, because she had been watching tv since they started. and i knew that if i would hug her, then all the chemicals would transfer to her. she put a blanket. i decided to hug her.
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when i did, i was crying for about ten minutes. i didn't say much. just cried in her arms. then i went to see my son, and i cried some more. >> officer hodges, you describe what people were wearing that day. you said ballistic vests, helmets, goggles, military face masks. >> you know, they weren't just there to listen to people speak. it wasn't just a rally. they were ready for violence. that's what they had planned on. it was premeditated. they had a plan of action. and, you know, as we saw, they followed through with it. >> the country, the world, now knows that moment in the doorway. >> help! >> can you still see and hear the voices, and in particular that man who was standing across fom you? >> oh, absolutely. because of the way i was being crushed, i literally could not not look at him.
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i remember the intensity of his screams, and i swear i remember him foaming at the mouth and grabbing at my mask, ripping off my -- ripping it off my head, straining my neck, ripping away my baton, beating me in the head with it. >> you said at one point he had a cell phone in his mouth? >> uh-huh. >> so he could use both hands to get at you? >> yeah, the absolute zealotry of these people was unreal. they were completely convinced that, without any evidence whatsoever, that the election was stolen. and that they were doing the right thing. they were in a cult personality. they leader had told them what to do, and they were going to do it. >> what were you thinking? >> i remember -- so the way that i was pinned was that i had the door to my right. and the then just a crush of people and the shield on my left to where my arms were like this. and i was standing pretty much straight up. so i couldn't get any strength from my legs in that posture.
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i couldn't effectively use my hands. >> did you think you were going to get through that? >> i mean, it crossed my mind at the time that, you know, this might be it. >> you were literally doing the math in your head thinking, when does the guard get here? >> same here. >> when does the world begin to respond? they must be watching. >> absolutely. like i said, i know that i was the backup, and that after the backup, what have you got left? >> a texas man has now been arrested and indicted for that moment in the doorway. >> good. >> honestly -- it had been so long since the 6th that i didn't think they were going to find him. they were able to track him down and arrest him. so he's going to face justice, one way or another. >> i know all three of you have witnessed how politicized this has all become. and i'm not interested in talking about the daily political back and forth. but some of these moments are difficult to ignore. you had a congressman from georgia, andrew clyde, who said,
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if you didn't know the tv footage was video from january 6th, you would actually think it was a normal tourist visit. >> yeah. i'm not sure if he had watched how hodges was screaming? when i was fighting for my life? i had the injuries, i could show it to him if he wants, if he would like to. >> those men and women that fought on january 6th, people that i fought next to, they were more than just our backup. you know, they saved our ass. you know? it's more than just they just were there. unsung heroes. >> you've lost service members, and you've lost several to suicide. >> yeah. >> yeah, that's tough. >> do you think there's been a lot of quiet suffering? >> absolutely. i'm a huge proponent of mental health awareness. and it needs to be checked. and i just make that plea to people. get help.
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it's okay. >> as we mark this one-year mark, do you feel safer? >> those individuals who were there, they thought that they were in the right. and they would stop at nothing because they were empowered by somebody in the highest power, position of power, in the united states. >> that person in power, former president trump? >> correct. >> you heard the video from the former president. the message he sent that evening to the crowd. >> yes. >> saying, go home, we love you, you're very special. >> i think that was like the third take they had to do. >> fifth. >> they had to do multiple takes because that was the most pat atabat able palatable one. that blows my mind. >> what would you say, not to republicans, democrats, independents on this one-year mark -- what would you say to your fellow americans about why that day should be remembered? >> people have this conception
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of american democracy being invincible. that something like what happened on january 6th couldn't happen. >> and it happened. >> and it did happen. >> you believe it's possible we see something like that again? >> oh, 100%. >> yes. >> you all still want accountability for anyone who helped plan this? >> yes. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. i almost lost my life multiple times because of that day. >> what does accountability mean to you? >> for these people who attacked us, who attacked me, the planning, from the planning, financing, everything that needs to be investigated. >> when you look back at that rally that morning, and the former president -- >> yes, i do hold him accountable. he's the only person who had influence over those people. you could give him the benefit of the doubt that he was not involved, you say that he didn't know for about an hour -- what
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did he do in the hours after the first hour? you can't tell me that he did not know. and that event, i'm sure that was playing on all the tv at that time. for several hours. so the notion that he did not know or he acted swiftly? no. i don't buy that. >> it's frustrating that we're here on -- that no one higher up at all has been charged with anything. save contempt for not responding to a subpoena. i'm very sensitive to telling other professionals how to do their job. i'm not a fed, i'm not a lawyer, i'm not a prosecutor. i just have to hope that, you know, they're doing everything they can to see that the people in power get what they deserve. >> and if that means the former president? >> absolutely. i don't care who it means. you've got to deal with this
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harshly and quickly. in order for -- in order to squash any thoughts of this happening again, which i guarantee you, people are imagining this happening again. >> right now? >> right now. >> our thanks to david for that powerful interview. be sure to watch abc news for special coverage tomorrow and throughout the day on "abc news live." we'll be looking at the attack on the capitol one year later. up next, the groundbreaking television event featuring celebrities like common and former first lady michelle obama shining light on the bravery of emmett till's mother. woman: i have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. now, there's skyrizi. ♪ things are getting clearer ♪ ♪ yeah i feel free ♪ ♪ to bare my skin, yeah that's all me. ♪ ♪ nothing and me go hand in hand ♪ ♪ nothing on my skin that's my new plan. ♪ ♪ nothing is everything. ♪ woman: keep your skin clearer with skyrizi. most who achieved 90% clearer skin at 4 months had lasting clearance through 1 year.
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the civil rights movement was not born of one person or event but of the contributions of countless heroes. one of them, mamie till-mobley. her bravery and legacy are the focus of two groundbreaking new series whose executive producers include will smith and jay-z. >> his name is emmett till. he was taken in the middle of the night from my uncle's, mr. mo wright's home, in mississippi. he was taken by white men. >> reporter: mamie till-mobley, the mother of emmett till, turned her grief into a force for change following the brutal murder of her son in rural mississippi after he was kidnapped by two white men in 1955. >> when the people see what they did to my boy -- >> reporter: now her role in history and the legacy she's left behind is being spotlighted in the new six-part abc series
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"women of the movement." >> i want a public wake. tonight. open casket. and i don't want you doing a thing to him. >> reporter: mobley's decision to put her private pain on public display, showing the brutality of 14-year-old emmett till's death, shocked the world, changing hearts and minds. her quest for justice is also chronicled in the companion docuseries "let the world see" which features illuminating interviews from celebrities like common, to former first lady michelle obama. >> just trying to find a place where your kids can grow up safe and healthy and whole, that is a struggle, a conversation that every mother has. >> reporter: to emmett till's own family, who were eyewitnesss to the tragedy. the tragedy that started with those two white men knocking on the door in the middle of the night. >> i could see the big
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bald-headed guy with the pistol. and i'm waiting to be shot. and i close my eyes. and i wasn't shot. opened my eyes, they were passing by me. they say, we're looking for the fat boy from chicago. >> they went to the next room and found emmett. and they told him to get up. he got up, and he was putting on his shoes, and they said, hurry up. and he said, i'm not used to putting on my shoes without my socks. >> that's the last time we saw him. >> this is the muddy backwoods ta tallahatchee river where a weighted body was found. >> then the call came, emmett's body had been found. >> mamie started crying. and yelling. and we didn't know what had happened.
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>> the grief in the house, the sadness in the house, was horrible. the screaming. the disbelief. >> but she had to pull herself together, because she had to get the mechanisms in place to bring him back to chicago. >> now the tallahatchie county sheriff, h.c. stryder, ordered emmett's body be buried immediately, before the sun sets that day. >> first of all, when does a sheriff make that decision? when did you hear of a sheriff making sure the body is buried? there's something they're really trying to hide here. for his mom, that was an mead yet red flag. she set off a domino effect. >> miss mamie began to call
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everybody she knew. she called the governor, she called mayor davis, she called everybody she could touch. finally got them engaged to bring the child home. >> the night they brought emmett's body back from mississippi, everybody went down to the train station. >> the body came in a wooden sealed box. >> her uncle and authorities had signed an agreement that the casket would be sealed. why would mississippi want a sealed casket? hm. >> emmett's mother said, well, get me a crowbar, get me whatever, what can they do to me, they've taken my son. >> it's powerful, and it's -- it
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was history-changing. that one little act of, i'm going to see my son, i'm going to see my son's face, literally changed history as we know it. >> ultimately, of course, it was mamie's actions that changed history. both series, "women of the movement" and "let the world see" premiere thursday night on abc starting at 8:00 p.m. eastern, and of course you can also watch later on hulu. we'll be right back. to what's possible... with rybelsus®. the majority of people taking rybelsus® lowered their blood sugar and reached an a1c of less than 7. rybelsus® isn't for people with type 1 diabetes. don't take rybelsus® if you or your family ever had medullary thyroid cancer or have multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2, or if allergic to it. stop rybelsus® and get medical help right away if you get a lump or swelling in your neck, severe stomach pain, or an allergic reaction. serious side effects may include pancreatitis. tell your provider about vision problems or changes. taking rybelsus® with a sulfonylurea or insulin
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