gaga. have a good night. >> lou: from hollywood, it's "jimmy kimmel live"! tonight -- lady gaga, and jake tapper. and now, jimmy kimmel! [ cheering and applause ] >> jimmy: hi, everyone. thank you. hi. how you doing? thanks. very kind. i appreciate it. i'm jimmy. i'm the host of the show. thanks for watching. thanks for joining us. look, everybody is happy. it was a big weekend here in los angeles. a lot of very exciting stuff going on. first of all, mercury is in retrograde. which means -- nothing.

and the rams, the los angeles rams won a thriller. [ cheering ] . >> jimmy: to earn a spot in the nfc championship game. did you watch the games this weekend, guillermo? >> guillermo: yes, of course. crazy games. >> jimmy: now you're rooting for the rams. you were a cowboys fan last week. very loyal. every nfl play-off game came down to the final play this week, and the rams somehow turned it around on tom brady. it was classic tom brady. 27-3. he brought them back to tie the game, but 40 seconds left, the rams march down the field and kick the last-second field goal to win the game in regulation. it was crazy to see tom brady. it was like to coyote finally caught the roadrunner and ate him right there on tv. the rams will host the 49ers. the 49ers came back to beat aaron rodgers and green bay with another last-second goal. aaron may recall was caught in a series of lies about his

vaccination status earlier in the season. before the game, he lashed out at president biden, said we have a fake white house, a bunch of other stuff befitting a man who has been hit in the head a lot of times. aaron rodgers wasn't the only speaking out this weekend. the huddled maskless descended on washington. thousands of far right wingnuts joined thousands of far left-wingnuts for what was billed as a defeat the mandates rally. you think at this point the chances of dying from covid are 60 times higher if you're not fully vaccinated might be making an impact. but that didn't seem to be the case at covid-chella. no mask, totally unpro ted. and if you're wondering what kind of speakers they lined up for this meeting of the minds, the answer is this kind. >> hi, i'm steve. i'm not a doctor, but i run a really popular substack on

covid-19 vaccines. >> jimmy: >> all right. say no more, steve. thank you. next time, after "i'm not a doctor," stop. the keynote speech came from robert f. kennedy jr. who somehow managed to connect the dots from vaccination to hitler. >> even in hitler germany, you could cross the alps to the switzerland. you could hide in an attic like anne frank did. >> jimmy: robert never actually finished the book. they must have been so disappointing. some of these whack jobs expected robert f. kennedy to come back to life. it's like going see the jackson five and only tito shows up. robert kennedy is a notorious long-time anti-vaxxer. he did have a christmas party at his house last month, and in order to come in you had to show proof of vaccination, but he blamed that on his wife. because he carries the kennedy nail, rfk, people believe what he says. he is largely responsible for a lot of the misinformation that's out there. for a lot of those in eanes, he

was the main event. you know how you go to the farmer's market and there is a band or a combo playing. and there is always one weird lady dancing alone? she was there. ♪ ♪ only love ♪ >> jimmy: it's either dancing or a medical emergency. i'm not sure. on friday in d.c., the house select committee looking into the extent of trump's involvement in the insurrection on january 6 received a load of documents that the former president sued to try to prevent them from seeing. one of those documents is a draft of a very damning executive order that would have directed the national guard to seize voting machines after the elction. these machines that we use at the polls, he wanted the national guard to go in and take them. it's not clear who wrote the document. trump himself has been ruled out because there was no dipping

sauce on any of the pages. but this order that the military would seize the machines and create a special council to look into trump's false allegations in a way to make them true allegations. it was a last ditch effort to keep trump in power. a sieg hail mary, if you will. fortunately, the order was never issued. trump is bigly upset right now because the house wants to chat with his daughter, ivanka, to hear what she knows about the insurrection. trump did an interview with "the washington examiner." he blasted that decision. he said they're using these things to try and get people's minds off how incompetently our country is being run, and they don't care. they'll go after children. he knows ivanka is 40, right? i know he missed a loft birthdays, but he's got to -- you can't call them "children" and also put them in charge of peace in the middle east, it's one or the other. this i thought was interesting. trump's former lawyer

michael cohen said that trump told him if it ever came down to ivanka or don jr. going to jail, make sure it was don jr. because he would do better in there. if you're ranking how well your children would do in prison, maybe it's time to sell the family business. i don't know. don jr., the son was on facebook this weekend in another sad and maybe even clouded attempt to earn just a little nugget of daddy's love. >> can't put joe biden in the same room as someone. he might let one rip. guys, joe biden is what stands between us and the nuclear capable china. joe biden is the guy they're going to call at 3:00 in the morning. >> jimmy: yeah, i think we know who he's calling at 3:00 in the morning, and it ain't grubhub by the way. why junior thought it was good idea to post this, i don't know.

but it didn't get much more coherent from there. >> when idiot joe biden does it every day, oh, it's just joe, it's just joe. it's only the president of the united states, folks. it's not like he is going to have to make an important decisin maybe one day. >> jimmy: i think he thinks he has a show. you know? i mean, he has a logo for this don junior. it's like an '80s tv show, like "airwolf" or smog. maybe he does have a show. maybe don jr. is star of a show we just haven't seen yet. ♪ ♪

♪ >> jimmy: yeah. [ cheering ] . maga p.i.! unfortunately for djtj, joe biden came back to life in a big way today. biden was caught on a hot mic talking about peter doocy of fox news. doocy asked. he doesn't really ask questions. he says obnoxious things. he asked biden if inflation is a political liability ahead of the midterm elections, which of course it is. and then we got to hear biden drop a doocy.

>> jimmy: that's telling 'em you old snarky malarkey. >> what a stupid son of a bitch. >> jimmy: we've been wondering where he was. i'm surprised doocy didn't ask biden to weigh in on the sexiness of m&ms. the big story, especially if you've been watching fox news is about m&ms. do you know about this? m&ms announced some changes to their packaging. they're going from this on the package to this in the hope of what they said is a more inclusive world where everyone feels they belong. and of course, the tucker carlson crowd lost their minds about this. part of a woke conspiracy to make the m&ms he said deeply unappealing and totally androgynous. and in some ways, i get it. why do m&ms even have body parts? it doesn't make sense for these characters to be inclusive. they're 70 years old. how many 70-year-olds do you know who are inclusive? i don't know any. the company that makes m&ms says

most of the changes are reflected in the shoes that the characters wear which they suggested is representative of their customers and a cue people really pick up on. this is by the way what happens when you sell the same little chocolate advil for 70 years. you start to hallucinate. you start to think your customers who are five, by the way, pick up on shoe-related cues. but it's hardly something to get mad about. but that's what these guys do, they get mad about stuff on television. the world of right wing outrage is very outraged on this subject. and so joining us now, from the show "triggered much" is conservative youtuber named ken reynolds. ken, thanks for being with us. i see you have some stuff there. explain to us, please, why these new m&ms have you so upset. >> i'm upset because i see what is happening to our country. okay? this is just a new low from the virtue signaling liberal left. these woke jokers are coming for the last bastion of american innocence, our candy!

>> jimmy: i don't think they are attacking candy. >> yes, they are. you susie snowflakes have your sights set on my beautiful hard-shelled goddess, the green m&m. >> jimmy: your what? your hard-shelled goddess? >> that's right. hey jerry, can you pull up that image i emailed you? i think search green m&m. it's a jpeg. search "daddy's bonerfuel." no apostrophe. then it might come up. there it is. there she is. look at my baby before she got coke wokified her, jimmy. that silky smooth flesh, those thigh high naughty-boots. that look that says, "i want you ken. come let me melt in your mouth. or in your hand if you're not ready for mouth stuff." >> jimmy: ken, ken. >> huh? >> jimmy: ken, are you saying you're sexually aroused by candy. >> are you saying you're not?

>> jimmy: uh, yeah, i am. >> well i've got an image that'll change your mind. show him, jerry. the one with the -- oh yeah, that's it. you're going to stand there and tell me these hot, thick little bitches do nothing for you downstairs? >> jimmy: wait. those are nerds. you're sexually attracted to nerds? >> what can i say? i like the brainy type. okay? what's the matter, kimmel, too mature for you? i bet you're into sour patch kids, you sicko. >> jimmy: no. no, i'm not, ken. >> okay then, what about the haribo gummy bear? okay? look at that furry little sexpot letting it all hang out. and look, look, his bow tie is crooked. did you notice? do you know why that is? no? because he's been busy, jimmy. he has been a busy little bear. >> jimmy: you know, i think you might need help. >> you think i need help? >> jimmy: yeah. >> you know who needs help? this country. >> jimmy: i think you might need a break. >> if i take a break, it will be to break me off a piece of that kit cat bar, sexually.

>> jimmy: okay. >> as aaron ain said on seven different podcasts, i will not be silenced. i am the candy store, not in the cvs, and certainly not here on television. you know what? where are my m&ms. >> jimmy: i do appreciate you. ken, how tall are you? >> i'm a normal height. why? >> jimmy: oh, no reason. it's okay. >> you know what? if wanting to sexually satisfy a bowl of round firm little chocolates makes me nonpc, then go ahead and cancel me, okay? i am not ashamed, okay? >> jimmy: oh, look at little ken. >> you might learn something. >> jimmy: okay, thank you, ken. i think it's best -- that's ken reynolds from a show we made up. [ applause ] hey, we got a fun show for you tonight. all the way from cnn, jake tapper is here, and we'll be right back with the lady named gaga. so stick around. ♪

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>> jimmy: hi there. welcome back to the show. tonight from "the lead" and "state of the union" on cnn, jake tapper is with us. this week, we have new shows with kristen bell, johnny knoxville, ike barinholtz, charlie day, we have music from eric bellinger featuring seven, the walters, and ian dior featuring travis barker. so please join us for all of that. our first guest tonight is an oscar and grammy-winning superstar who was born before our very eyes. you can see her now smoking, scheming, and sipping cappuccino in "house of gucci," it is in theaters now. please say ciao to lady gaga. [ cheering ] ♪

>> jimmy: how you doing? well, thanks for being here. i always love having you here, and i appreciate you coming. >> thanks for having me. i'm so happy to be here. hello, beautiful audience! [ cheering ] >> jimmy: it felt like they were in a better mood than usual, and i think it's because you have. >> no. and the band. how are you feeling? >> jimmy: cleto and the cletones, they're fine, they're fine. some of them are on drugs. how you doing for the weekend? do you watch football? do anything like that? >> i watch football, watch hockey. >> jimmy: you do? >> play with the dogs. >> jimmy: oh, all right. i was thinking about you and the super bowl, and i was thinking about dre and snoop and mary j. blige, eminem doing the super bowl show. was that a good experience for you, looking back at it?

>> oh, yeah. playing the super bowl is a huge honor, and i remember and i got the phone call to play the show, i just cried. i just cried and ran around my room. and then i don't know why. i made a very silly decision to try to catch a touchdown. >> jimmy: that's what i wanted to ask you about. >> yeah. >> jimmy: but it wasn't a silly decision. and i think also -- i don't know, maybe i'm overthinking this, but i think the fact that this went the way it did makes perfect sense in the arc of your whole life, because you -- we know you can sing. we know you can dance and you're going to do all these things, but then you decide at the end of this performance. >> jimmy: i can play football. >> you're going catch a pass. which is risky, very risky. >> it's super risky. i wanted to jump in and jump out of the performance because i thought it was compositionally

interesting. so i was so super excited to catch this football. but four out of five times that we practiced it, i didn't get it. and everybody on my team wanted to throw the football to me at the super bowl. >> jimmy: they did? >> and i was guys, we need a quarterback. i don't -- >> jimmy: is that right? >> they're i can do it, it's no problem. i used to with my boyfriend in high school. no, no. we're not in high school. i'm not your boyfriend. i need a quarterback. so we had a real quarterback come and throw me that ball. and what was so cool was that my sister, natalie, who is a pdesi this incredible football that was covered in like diamonds. not real diamonds. >> jimmy: she made it even harder to catch. >> she made the ball heavier, and she put my name on it. so when i caught the ball, i caught it right where it said gaga on it. and it was funny. no one could see, but i landed in this giant foam pit that you

would see at a gym or something. and i landed in the pit and did i catch it? i caught it, i caught it. did i get it, did the people see it? >> jimmy: we actually have it on camera right here. let's take a look. >> super bowl li! >> jimmy: did you ever think if i miss, if this ball bounces off my head, everyone is going to laugh at me for a long time? >> oh, i knew the headline would be like the patriots win and lady gaga loses. it was stick to singing, honey. >> jimmy: where is that football now? do you still have it? >> yeah, i do. >> jimmy: is it displayed somewhere? >> yeah. >> jimmy: oh, all right. did you play sports as a kid? >> i swam. >> jimmy: you were on the swim team? >> briefly. i was a dancer. >> jimmy: i got you. >> ballet, jazz. >> jimmy: same here. >> tap. >> jimmy: all of that. >> come on. show us what you got, jimmy. >> jimmy: they know.

and you're getting a lot of, as you know, awards recognition for this movie for "house of gucci" playing -- [ cheering ] now most people think of you as a musician who then just started acting because you were popular. but that's not really how it went at all. >> football. >> jimmy: and football. people think of you as a football player who now -- [ laughter ] well, you started acting and singing at roughly the same time, right, as far as training goes? >> i mean, actually, i started acting earlier. >> jimmy: earlier? >> yeah, i did. and i always wanted to be an actress, much more than i wanted to be a singer. and i went to different acting schools, the monica may academy when i was very little. and then the lee strasbourg institute where i started a lot of sense memory technique and

stanislaus ski, there is a conservatory called circle in the square. and i just always wanted to be an actress, but i really was terrible at auditions. and i got into tish. i went to college for about five minutes. >> jimmy: at nyu. >> yeah. >> jimmy: you majored in what there? >> in musical theater. >> jimmy: in musical theater. >> so i used to get in trouble because you weren't allowed to audition. >> jimmy: why? >> they wanted you to focus on studying your craft, which i'd been studying since i was 4. >> jimmy: right. >> because i'm psychotic about my art. and, you know, so i was auditioning all the time. and i remember this one time i got many, many callbacks to play maureen in the domestic tour of "rent." and i was so excited, and i got callback after callback after callback. and one day they said how old are you? and i actually was in college when i was 17. >> jimmy: oh, really? wow. >> so i had to tell them i was

17. and they -- so i legally wasn't allowed to go on this tour, and i wasted all their time. well, we can't hire you. and then i went back to class and i got called into the principal's office and i got scolded for auditioning. >> jimmy: they ratted you out? >> the people, kids in the school. i don't know, someone found out. also, i skipped class. >> jimmy: okay. well that may have tipped them off. >> yeah. >> jimmy: did you ever do commercial auditions and "law & order," that new york stuff, that kind of stuff? >> i did commercial auditions. i was terrible. >> jimmy: do you remember any of the commercials you auditioned for? >> yes. >> jimmy: what was it? >> there was a very spicy lenscrafters commercial. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: lenscrafters, wow. >> yeah. and i just -- i got a callback. callbacks are when they liked you the first time so you can come back. and it's a good idea to wear the

same t-shirt so they remember that it was you. i wore the same outfit, and i went back. and i had one line. i don't remember what my one line was. but this time there were cameras on me. the first time it was just a couple of people in the room. and so now there was cameras on me. i had never been in front of television cameras before, and i just completely froze. at some point in the commercial, the glasses were supposed to fall off. i was supposed to fumble my glasses. i think the idea was any glasses that aren't lenscrafters glasses are no good. >> jimmy: that is true, yeah. >> so i say my line and they're like uh, sweetheart, the glasses are supposed to fall off. and i was oh. and then i started like -- i just started making them fall off and i didn't redo the commercial. and then when you don't get the part they just go "thank you."

>> jimmy: wow. that would -- you know what? you lucked out really, because now i would be throwing to your lenscrafters commercial that you did and didn't want anybody to see. >> and i would be very proud. >> jimmy: okay, you would have. >> you know what? i learned something that day. >> jimmy: what? >> i learned all about rejection and how the take it like a queen. >> jimmy: okay, all right. good. i learn that a lot. lady gaga is here with us. "house of gucci" is the movie. we'll be right back. ♪ >> portions of "jimmy kimmel live" are brought to you by captain morgan, the official spiced rum sponsor of the nfl. bring on the spice to your super bowl party.

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where is he right i know? where is he right now? look in my eyes. do you see anything in these eyes that would let you think that i would ever let anyone ruin my daughter's life? compromise her, do you? do you see that? you know that won't happen. >> jimmy: eat your heart out, lens crafters. it's lady gaga in "house of gucci." yeah, you're great in the movie. it's amazing that you're this talented and lens crafters didn't recognize it. it really is.

you are an italian american, which is different from being an italian in a lot of ways. >> yeah, totally. >> jimmy: being over in italy, i first of all, i would have to -- the plot of the movie would have to be me getting fatter as the movie goes along because i don't think i could -- i don't know, i don't think i could control mself knowing i'm there for a certain amount of time. do you have that? or is that something. >> i ate the entire time. >> jimmy: good. >> i ate my way through the set. >> jimmy: what's the best thing you ate while you were there? >> there was so much. the pizza was so good. the pasta was so good. the sandwiches. i had so much coffee though. >> jimmy: could have foe. >> a dopio. it's a double. but i had them all day. think 24 espressos in one day. every hour. >> jimmy: that's a lot of espressos.

was it fun speaking with that italian accent? and i know you did that, like you did that all day. so you didn't drop out of it, right? >> yeah, i spoke in my accent all the time so that i could get really used to talking to somebody with my accent and have a really normal conversation so i could just be in my body and talk. and it was really great for me on set. but with my friends and family, you know, i think they had to get used to it. >> jimmy: yeah, right. yeah. it's something that oh, that's great, but your sister would be all right, enough with the italian accent already. >> well, you know what's so funny, my family, it's like my creative neurosis is they're just. you hungry? you're from brooklyn. my family is very -- they know who i am. i think it's more that for me, that immersive approach to acting is something that is really beholden to my heart.

and i have to say, you know, we don't always talk about this, but my fellow actors on that set, everybody was in character. it was not just me. that movie was shot with an incredible cast. >> jimmy: what a cast. >> so grateful to have worked with. and we were in it all the time. >> jimmy: jeremy irons, al pacino. your parents had to go nuts when you told them you were doing a movie with al pacino, right? >> oh, yeah. my father has had heart issues his whole life. and i was this is going to put him back in the hospital. my family is so italian. we're italian american, but we're italian. my father, i was like are you sitting down? he goes what happened? and i'm like, were you stressed today? and he goes who's involved? like you know every italian in new york. >> jimmy: yeah, right. >> so then i tell him it was

pacino. he is oh my god, stefani -- that's my real name. and my sister said "this is ridiculous." my whole family. and for everybody, for adam driver, for salma hayek. >> jimmy: salma hayek. >> and jared leto. jared leto is amazing. >> jimmy: i didn't even know it was him. i figured it out afterwards. i thought jared leto was in this movie. oh, he was in the movie, yeah. >> but it's so great doing scenes with jared. jared, we're both maniacs to a certain extent. and i think like, you know, in some sort of way, i think if -- unless you're really in tune with yourself as an artist and respect the person that you're working with, all that hair and makeup that we were both in might feel really hard to connect on a real and human level. but i just never met jared on set. i was always with paolo and he was always with patrizia.

you know, the father, son in "house of gucci," that was completely ad libbed in that scene. that was completely spontaneous. it wasn't in the script. >> jimmy: wow, that's fun. when you have moments like that and you go oh, that's just great. an then it makes it into the film. >> yeah, i used to it do in my trailer as a prayer before i went to do my scenes. so after the team got me all ready and i studied, i would before i would go on set, i'd go father, son and house of gucci. and then we were shooting the scene one day, and he goes can you keep a secret? and i said "father, son and house of gucci" and it naturally made it in. >> jimmy: and you're playing a real person. so that is a leap too. you talk about salma hayek, and i heard in an interview that you guys had a love scene together and it was excised from the film. who cut that out of the movie? >> not me. i'll never forget what i told -- i was like -- i was like okay,

listen. so before we do this scene, i just want your consent to do something together. and she is okay, okay, okay. what do you want to do? and i said okay, so i was thinking, you know, after the hit gets put out on maurizio and you get the phone call that he is dead, that i will go over to you and kiss you. and she is what? so then we told ridley, and his wife was the producer on the film. janine is amazing. she has been cultivating this film for 20 years. so this was 20 years in the making. so then we asked them, they were like yeah, sure, try it. and we did it. the only reason it's not in the movie is because that whole scene was cut. but it was an awesome scene. but she's walking around the house, and the camera was following her feet and all her cats were following her. and salma, in order to get the cats to follow her, she put a bunch of catnip in her boot.

so salma is walking around the house and the cats are following her. and then we're surrounded by cat, and we started making out. and i made out with salma hayek. >> jimmy: nabi will be released as its own film. >> but i'm like that really annoying kid in school that's like bragging that they made out with the popular girl but has no proof. i break into ridley. >> jimmy: don't worry. i'll get that for you. yeah. well, it's great to see you. congratulations. >> great to see you too. >> jimmy: the movie is called "house of gucci." it's in theaters now. it comes out digitally on february 1. lady gaga, everybody. we'll be back with jake tapper. ♪ if you're always asking, "where next?" capital one has a new class of travel card for you. introducing venture x. earn 10x miles on hotels and 5x miles on flights booked

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[ cheering ] ♪ >> jimmy: how you doing? did you meet lady gaga? >> i did. i did meet her. it was quite a thrill. she's awesome. >> jimmy: she is something else, yeah. >> and now my daughter hates me even more than she did when i told her i was coming out here. she is furious. >> jimmy: she loves lady gaga? >> she loves lady gaga. and now hates me. >> jimmy: how old is your daughter? >> my daughter is 14, alice. you met her. >> jimmy: yes. a very nice kid. very, very nice kid. you have two kids, alice and jack. >> alice and jack. >> jimmy: a girl and a boy. >> yeah, but i want to share this with you. i asked her if i could. and she demanded that i do. >> jimmy: oh, okay. >> because i wanted to share how angry she is at me. >> jimmy: even better. >> she started sending me very

upset snapchat notes that i screen shot. i can't believe you didn't take me. i am so infuriated. she is 14 and she is in school, i should note. "omg. i'm just at home while you are out traveling to go hang out with celebrities and lady gaga and you just left me here. it's like so rude." [ laughter ] >> she is very angry about it. and she keeps on going and going "this will not stand". >> jimmy: this will not stand? >> "this is inexcusable. i will remember this forever." i told jimmy about this. alice, i told jimmy kimmel how mad you are for not bringing you and he wants to talk about it on air but we won't if you don't want us to and she writes back all caps, "do it!" [ applause ] i feel like they're siding with her. and then this is my favorite,

"it's genuinely a crime you didn't bring me." so i sent her this. >> jimmy: oh, that's rubbing it. that's not fair at all. >> i sent that to the family group chat. and alice wrote back "absolutely despicable." [ applause ] >> jimmy: is she -- is alice a fox news viewer? >> not a fox person. >> jimmy: you have a lot of jobs. you are a parent, obviously. you've got a show five days a week, two hours a day on cnn. you're the lead anchor. if anything happens, you get called in. >> yeah. >> jimmy: you are the weekend show. >> with dana bash, the sunday show, right. >> jimmy: you have written a whole bunch of books. >> yes. >> jimmy: you're like the steve harvey of cable news in a lot of ways. that's what people say. >> and that's my role model. that's how i dress. >> jimmy: and now -- and now you've got another show. >> a new show. cnn is launching a streaming service called cnn+.

>> jimmy: were you expecting people to clap at that moment? >>. [ laughter ] [ applause ] >> i know people are like there is another streaming service? but we're aspiring to do a lot of new programing. and we're going to be having an interview show about books with authors. just because other than c-span, there really isn't a show that you can do a half hour, 40 minute interview with an author. >> jimmy: so these are books that you like, you think you might like? >> right. bring the author in and talk with. >> we hope to have 12 for the season. we've already shot two. one was earlier today with this great young woman, a writer named jean chin ho. it's a literary book about two best friends, taiwanese american girls and then women. the other book i did, i interviewed the authors, in march james patterson, who i'm sure your audience nose, best-selling author.

>> jimmy: we see those commercials. >> james patterson co-wrote a book with dolly parton. >> jimmy: oh, wow. >> and dolly parton has an album that comes out with the book because it's about two nashville singers. it's a thriller. i read that, listened to the album and interviewed them. >> jimmy: so interviewed clinton and replaced them with dolly parton. >> i think he plays the field. >> jimmy: did you get the sense dolly really wrote the book? >> i got the sense that she informed a lot of the information in it. >> jimmy: i see. >> and she definitely wrote the songs. >> jimmy: interesting. all right. speaking of show business and news kind of crossing over, you i think famously, i don't know that people know that when you're younger and before she worked at the white house, you dated monica lewinsky. one date. >> i went on one date with her. it was actually after she -- it was in that weird period right before the whole story blew up. so it was december 1997.

and i guess everything broke in january 1998. i went on one date with her. i knew nothing. bill clinton's name did not come up. i was never subpoenaed. and, but yeah, i know her. i still know her to this day. >> jimmy: the reason i bring this up is not to embarrass you, but rather to mention there was this -- the miniseries, like a limited. >> it was american crime story. >> jimmy: american crime story. and they depicted that meeting. >> they depicted our date. >> jimmy: in this miniseries. we have it right here. >> try and give off an air of inaccessibility. was i successful? >> oh, yes. good job. >> i'm jake, jake tapper. >> i'm monica. >> can i buy you a drink? >> oh, it's a week night. i was going to head home and have dinner. >> you know you can have food here. it's tex-mex. >> jimmy: was that accurate? did you say i'm jake, jake tapper, like you were james bond

or something? >> it's a little hollywoodized. but it's vaguely accurate. >> jimmy: was it a mexican restaurant? >> yeah, we did have tex-mex. it wasn't that same night. for god's sake, that's desperate. >>jimmy: were you wearing a cable knit sweater on this? >> it's so funny you say that. i'm still friends with monica. and when i watch the scene, i texted her the next day and i said like i don't know where they got that. i did actually own like a white greek fisherman's sweater. did i wear that on the date? and then i kind of was worried that a, i did, and b, that she remembered it. but she said i have no idea what you wore. okay, good. >> jimmy: is your life boring now that donald trump is no longer president? >> no, the current president just called someone a dumb son of a bitch today. >> jimmy: that reporter, peter doocy, is he a dumb son of a bitch? >> i don't think any president should be calling any journalist a dumb son of a bitch.

to be fair to peter doocy, the question was fairly ly anno di >> jimmy: he didn't technically call him a dumb son of a bitch. it was caught on microphone. >> it would be like me calling you a dumb son of a bitch right now, in front of a microphone. it wasn't like robert durst confessing to murder in the bathroom for getting his mic on. it was at a press conference. >> jimmy: it was like that. it was like that. >> it was in the bathroom? >> jimmy: wait a minute. fox news says you are -- that you're on team biden, and you are a mouthpiece for the democrats. and yet here you are defending peter doocy, who as far as i have been able to do is indeed a dumb son of a bitch. [ applause ] >> so i do not agree with that. and i will say standards for decency don't have to do with whether or not you like the people that are being treated poorly. it just has to do with the

standard. and yes, i recognize that -- >> jimmy: right. >> i recognize that peter's channel probably would never come to my defense like that. but it is what it is. i should also note, just in terms of breaking news, biden did call peter doocy to apologize. they did have a phone conversation. he did. >> jimmy: oh, wow. >> so according to our cnn -- >> jimmy: i'm sure trump did that, though. [ laughter ] >> yeah. >> jimmy: you don't hear from him, do you? >> he gave out maps to our homes. >> jimmy: jake tapper, everybody. "the lead" with jake tapper, "state of the union," jake's book club on cnn+. he's doing everything. we'll be right back.

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>> on your show, not mine. "nightline" is next. thanks for watching, everybody. this is "nightline." >> tonight, on the front lines and on the brink. >> was that a shot? >> yeah. >> the cold war style standoff between russia and the west. 100,000 russians massing at the ukraine border. now american troops on standby. where will the u.s. soldiers end up? plus, hugh hefner's the empire of glamour and excess that opened the door to a sexual revolution. >> he had charm, charm, charm, m. he was such a