>> building a better bay area, moving forward, finding solutions. this is abc7news. dion: hey, everybody. you are watching getting answers come out live on abc seven. we asked experts your questions every day to get you answers in real time. not that i need to remind you, but you can see from our clock in the corner, we are a couple hours away from tip-off of the nba finals exclusively here on abc seven. the warriors looking for another championship, this time against the celtics. and coming up in 20 minutes, we have a boston doughnut maker who is issuing a challenge to any bay area doughnut shop bold enough to take that challenge. you are going to want to stick around for that. and the ucsf medical chair joins

us to answer questions about covid-19. get those questions into facebook. first, we want to get to david, a reporter with our news partner the san francisco standard. he joins us to talk about a drug-free rehab facility no open in san francisco's neighborhood. thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. dion: let's talk about the facility opening next week, why this is significant for the community and why it is different from what has opened in the past. >> the facility has had a soft opening, they are going to have a ribbon-cutting next week to truly mark the entrance of the rehab to the neighborhood. what makes it different is that they are taking investment in the neighborhood and it is a part of the town, part of the city that has struggled with

overdoses and open-air drug dealing and all the things that come along with that. so what makes it different is everybody in this facility has to be drug-free, which is different from the way san francisco usually operates things when they are trying to cast a wide net to include everyone so they allow them to use drugs and all that, but this is a sober environment. if you use drugs, you have to start over and go back to detox. dion: that brings me to the next question because i have covered this in the past where there is that term nimby, not in my back yard. what are the concerns with this facility even though it is drug-free? i have heard the argument that these facilities make the neighborhood unsafe. i saw that the director believes it is going to be a safe environment, there is not dealing outside, but i can only imagine there is that temptation potentially. david: it is definitely a rough

neighborhood to be seeking recovery in, which is why the director of adult probation said that it incentivizes them even further to try to revitalize the neighborhood and become stakeholders, he has been meeting with neighbors. people can be a little transient, in and out of those facilities, and will go out and years and come back in. they have their participants to community service on saturdays. i talked to one of the neighbors and he said he had seen them power washing the sidewalks and he was excited to have them as a neighbor and he lives next door. it seems like -- dion: it seems like there is that incentive, or that seems to be the plan. david: the idea is to fix all the things around the druggies that are causing people to use

drugs, to give them a stable foundation so when they leave, they have a job, they have housing. it is about restructuring their lives and not focusing so much on the drugs, though most of them have had that in the past. it is about kissing on life skills and holding them accountable. dion: i think all of those sound good on paper, all of these goals. it does make sense logically. do you think these approaches have proven to be successful? are there case studies where this has been done? david: yeah, i mean, sober environments used to be the standard and in san francisco and california, i think most people that used to seek recovery would go straight to narcotics anonymous or alcoholics anonymous classes or straight to a sober living place.

the research is kind of up in the air at this point about whether that is more effective or a full on harm reduction approach is more effective because it casts a wider net. the argument is if you allow people to use drugs in the facility, more people will come in and more people will seek recovery, but in san francisco, there was a pilot program that this program is based on and they had a 0% recidivism rate which meant nobody in the program in the 15 months that they opened reentered the criminal justice system. that was the reason why the city was willing to put some money towards funding this program. dion: speaking about the money, we have about a minute or so left, but i read that the budget year they will be $4.7 million. give me some context. at first, i did not think this sounded like very much money in comparison to how much gets put

toward these efforts across the city. david: yeah, i think it is an approach the city has not gone with an a long time so they are easing into it. it is a very community-based effort, it is something the community wanted. they are putting a small amount of money towards it and they are trying to make a big difference to prove that this is something that should be expanded. dion: many thanks to you. i know you will be following this extensively. looking forward to catching up soon. we do have links to the san francisco standard's other reporting on our website, abc7news.com. if you would like to watch more segments featuring the sf standard journalism, you can check out our bay area streaming tv app. i want to remind everybody to get your questions in for our doctor from ucsf, the medical chair, bob wachter.

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dion: just in time for the lid uptick in covid cases, president biden has encouraging news about protecting the health of our youngest. ucsf department of medicine chair dr. wachter joins us to talk about that and answer your covid questions. it is strange not having you and your wife with us. how has her covid recovery gone? how is she now? dr. wachter: it is not great, she is four weeks out and she still is pretty fatigued every afternoon. she is a very busy working journalist. you know what that is like. i am hoping this does not become long covid, but she is not back

to normal after four weeks. dion: i'm sorry about that. on the topic of long covid, i did not anticipate having to ask this question, but are there some signs, things people should watch out for once they have recovered and tested negative that are signs of long-haul? dr. wachter: the definition of long covid varies but it is you continue to have symptoms months out, not weeks. a lot of people have symptoms weeks out but for someone who is continuing to have fatigue or brain fog or fevers, months out, that is the definition and there is no good predicting. it is clear that vaccination lowers the risk. if your initial case was milder, your risk is lower but nonzero. in many people, it gets better over time. even if you have symptoms a couple months out, the odds are good you will get better. we are still seeing people who have bad symptoms months out. dion: let's hope the positive

part is the route your wife is going to take. when we spoke about vaccinations earlier, one of the headlines today was the white house is saying covid vaccinations for kids under five real start as early as june 21. is this realistic? should all kids in this age group get this vaccine? dr. wachter: it is realistic that it seems likely that the fda will approve the vaccines for kids at their next several meetings. there are a few steps, but that seems very likely. parents have a decision to make. if i had kids that age, i would get them vaccinated. i think the risk of the vaccines is low and even though few kids get super sick, there have been kids that have died and we don't know the long-term effects on kids but when people ask me, i'm worried about the long-term effects, that i'm not worried about at all, we have seen hundreds of millions of people vaccinated. i am worried about the long-term

effects of covid. if they were my kids, i would get them vaccinated. dion: at the beginning at the pandemic, there was not that emphasis on children. i do want to get to a viewer question on facebook. carrie bites into say -- thank you for asking the question -- we ordered a large quantity of test kits. we received them last week and they expired and 14. i cannot get a hold of the seller. are these going to be ok after the sell by date? dr. wachter: i hesitate to say that you should ignore that date , but the dates are often restrictive -- the same thing is true on medications where there are so my dates but the medicine is fine for a while after. if a year passed, i would worry. if it is a couple weeks, i would not. dion: i'm getting another question. do you think diet plays a part

in your recovery? dr. wachter: i don't know the answer to that, i have not seen good studies looking at it. it would be nice to say of course it does and we all want to eat a healthy diet. i have not seen a study that correlates diet to the recovery from covid. we know obesity is a substantial risk factor for bad outcomes, but in terms of the diet that he take when you have covid or afterwards, it makes sense to eat healthily but i cannot give you data on that. dion: almost on's like a general rule of thumb, healthier diet leads to a healthy lifestyle. i am getting a question in about alameda county, something my producers flagged. alameda county announced it will be going back to requiring masks for indoor events starting friday because of the surging. are we reaching a point with these spikes that more organizations, cities, counties will bring back there mask mandates? dr. wachter: it is a tricky

question. there are a lot of cases when you look at the bay area. there are as many cases now because we are counting so few of them in the public counts because of home testing, probably as many cases now as they were in december and january. the appetite for mandates has gone down. i personally think it is risky out there right now, there's a lot of covid and wearing a mask in indoor places is a smart thing to do. hospitals are not overwhelmed and that will be the trigger for mandates in many places. it is a little safer to have a mandate if everyone wears a mask. but you have the ability to keep yourself safe by wearing a good mask. even without a mandate, i encourage people to wear and n95 or equivalent in indoor places. dion: i am seeing a lot of people at the grocery store still masking even though they are not required to. i am getting a question.

i'm afraid to get the booster vaccine since i got very sick with the one i took in june of 2021. how big is my risk of getting infected again? dr. wachter: everybody's risk is pretty high right now. the reason to get the booster has less to do with protection against infection, although it helps some, and more to do with the fact that your prior vaccines affect in protecting you against getting very sick is waning. particularly if you are an older person or have other medical risks, the booster will markedly lower the probability that you will need to go to the hospital and died. there's no question that there is evidence that boosters lower the mortality rate along with a hospitalization rate. i think, for people eligible to get boosters, this is a good time to get them. a good chance he will get infected.

vaccines lower that chance and markedly lower the chance that you will have a severe case. dion: some great questions coming in. another question about kids. can kids suffer from long-term covid? we touched upon that in the beginning. dr. wachter: it has not been well studied but there are kids who have gotten covid who continue to be ill for many months. we need better data, but it is one of the reasons why if i had a young kid, i would get them vaccinated. there is some chance that they will have long-term symptoms. there is some chance that having a prior covid will increase the risk of other bad things down the line in the vaccines are quite safe. there are tiny risks of heart involvement that have almost never led to hospitalization. the heart involvement risk of covid is greater than the risk from the vaccine. it is one of the reasons i would vaccinate my kid, worried about long-term effects of the infection. dion: i wish i could get two

more questions but it looks like we are running out of time. thank you for joining us. dr. wachter: thank you for having me. dion: we will be right back but the conversation continues on facebook.com/abc7news. we are going to be with a boston doughnut maker issuing a challenge ahead of the nba finals. i had no idea how much i wamy case was worth. c call the barnes firm to find out what your case could be worth. we will help get you the best result possible.

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dion: our golden state warriors are back in the nba finals, taking on the boston celtics. abc 7 is the exclusive home of the finals. we have pregame and posting programming throughout the series starting with tonight's opening game. tipoff is at 6:00. you can always count on dubs on seven coverage all day long. speaking of, did you know there is another warriors-celtics competition in the works? one day before national doughnut day. kane stone us is a legacy -- canes doughnuts is a legacy doughnut shop.

the delios families took it over in the 1980's and they are on the -- they are on several best of lists. they are trying to duel it out with a bay area doughnut shop ahead of the finals, but they are running into trouble. full disclosure, my husband's aunt is one of the owners. i have never said this on tv, but joining me now on tv is onto maria. maria: how is my favorite niece? dion: i did not know i was her favorite, thanks. maria: you are today. none of the other children call me. dion: none of the other children are on tv. [laughter] maria: true. dion: give us to skip, what is the challenging you are -- the challenge you are issuing? maria: we were looking for a doughnut shop out of your way

that would like to get involved in a wager. we love to compete. we adore our celtics. we thought it would be fun if we spiced this whole finals up. we decided to make a go celtics doughnut, which i will show you right here, because these are our beautiful colors, the green and the white. we said, if a doughnut shop out your weight wanted to make a wager, a dozen of our doughnuts for a dozen of there's, so if the celtics lost, i would send them a dozen of hours. but we know that is not happening. we were hoping to try some doughnuts from your area. but nobody wanted to do it. dion: what you mean nobody wanted to take you up on this?

maria: we contacted three popular, outstanding doughnut shops outdoor way -- out your way and we did not get much of a response. they decided i guess not to get involved. i truly believe that the reason that they did not want to get involved, they knew they were going to lose. let's face it. steph curry is washed up. mark is smart, he is 5-0. our team is outstanding. all of these young, healthy men, they are going to do great. dion: you do know that you are using fighting words, auntie maria. maria: and you do know that your husband was a season ticket holder of the boston celtics until he met you. dion: by the way, everyone at the station is getting a kick out of your boston accent.

the way you said marcus mark. maria: well, you know, i cannot help it, i love this area, love the, love marcus mark, i'm a bostonian, this is the way i speak. dion: can you tell us which doughnut shops you reached out to? maria: we reached out to bob's, we reached out her dynamo, we reached out to twist it. we did not get a reply. i was hoping bob's would take us on. i heard they have this big doughnut and we make this giant coffee will == roll. i would have sent them one of these even though i know we are going to win. we were game to send them donuts regardless. nobody wanted to take us on. sorry, either they are going to lose.

they don't want to send us their doughnuts. but it is just and good fun. dion: this rivalry is all in the name of lots of sugar, it is national doughnut day tomorrow. can you show me that coffee roll again? the bob's jumbo doughnut is really good and they are open 24 hours. maria: really? nice. tomorrow is doughnut day, it is better than christmas in our family. dion: will you move that doughnut closer to the center? have this graphics bar. look at that, it is like the size of her head. comedy servings is this, 10? maria: we slice it up, we serve it during the holidays. 10 to 12. it feeds easily. dion: have you done this rivalry before with any other city for a sporting event? maria: absolutely. the newington patriots, we have the patriots, the dynamite, so we have been spoiled, the red

sox, bruins. we love doing it, it is fun. we enjoy sports in our family. we are diehard celtics fans. dion: i have to tell everybody -- full disclosure, i'm from new england originally. sports is like a way of life for people. i'm sure customers are going to go for these doughnuts -- are going coocoo for these doughnuts. maria: it is fun to see everybody coming in with their green on. we bleed green in boston. dion: what is your message to any other doughnut shop in the bay area? this is your chance to get them to throw down with you. maria: i'm calling out any doughnut shop in the bay area. send us an email. info@kanesdonuts.com. even though we are probably going to win, but going forward,

we have quite a while for the finals. let's make this deal happen, it will be fun. i don't understand why no one has taken me up on this. dion: we are showing some video from wcvb, the abc station in boston that shows the boston red sox doughnut that you made. and one last question for you. obviously, your predictions -- how do you think the series is going to go? i'm sure a lot of folks -- brandy says maybe she can try krispy kreme for a challenge. you have some thoughts on krispy kreme. maria: first off, we are a handcart homemade doughnut. they use a machine, it is not the real deal. you cannot get a doughnut that looks like these. these are handcart, hand decorated, they are delicious. that is no competition for us. sorry, randy.

i have a question for you. dion: we only have 15 seconds, maria. maria: why are you not covering the finals? why didn't they send you home to us? dion: i have to be in the studio, i have work to do, i don't know. maria: do i have to much over there and talk to somebody? dion: i'm sorry for all my managers you may experience this, it is scary. we got to go. thank you for joining us. maria: i love you. dion: i love you too, see you. we will be right

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we have so much on the line. dubs on seven starting at 5:00. have a great night and go dubs. tonight, breaking news. president biden addressing the nation tonight, after another masses shooting. this time, at a hospital, authorities say the gunman bought his ar-15-style rifle just hours before his rampage. the suspect killing four people at that tulsa hospital. authorities tonight revealing the chilling details. the suspect allegedly targeting a doctor and killing others, too. what authorities say he blamed on the doctor and the letter found on the suspect. john quinones in tulsa for us. it comes after the school shooting in uvalde, texas, and tonight, for the first time, we hear from the teacher's lawyer who police initially said left that school door open. tonight, what they say is the real story of what happened at that door and that teacher's call to 911. as we come on tonight, the