♪ this is "nightline." this is "nightline." tonight, bombshell ruling. swimming's international governing body effectively barring transwomen athletes from elite women's events. including olympics. why some are cheering the move. e are cheering the move. >> it's a major victory. >> others calling it transphobic. >> it's the most extreme policy to date. >> the new rules banning leah thompson. >> trans women competing in women sport does not threaten women's sports as a whole. >> plus four-day work week, in a post-pandemic world radical shift some are making as employees demand more flexibility. >> that's when i said no i can't

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thanks for joining us, tonight, leah thompson the groundbreaking transgender swimmer once again in the headlines as activist react to toughest restrictions to trans women swimmer banning them from elite competition including the olympics, is the ruling discriminatory as some critics contend or does it merely level the playing field. >> i was devastated to hear about the new update and got teary-eyed. >> it is a major victory, a level of excitement i haven't seen in a long time. >> it's the stunning decision sending shock waves throughout the world of swimming and beyond adding fuel to an already fiery-debate over trans inclusion and swimmer leah thompson. >> do you think this was a warning shot to all trans athletes across sports? >> it's the most extreme policy

i read to date, it builds on the discrimination on trans people. >> after consulting with scientist and policymakers fina the swimming world governing body voted to ban transgender athletes in competing event. >> we have to protect the rights of all our athletes to compete and also have to protect competitive fairness at our events. especially women's competition. >> women's rights, you know, definitely should include trans women as well. >> this is not about hate, this is about trying to find a solution that is fair for all. >> the new policy which takes effect today only allowing athlete who's transition before the age of 12 to take park in elite swimming competent zbligs basically if a person has gone through maem puberty and

transitioned to transgender female athletes they cannot compete. i truly believe leah and her decision to swim has triggered entire situation. >> thompson wins the ncaa championship. >> the decision will impact leah thompson who's record-breaking season in the women's field set off a firestorm of international controversy. she made history earlier this year as the first transgender athlete to win division i ncaa championship and i spoke with her. >> trans women competing in women's sports does not threaten women's sports as a whole. >> why? >> because trans women are a minority of athletes and haven't seen any massive wave of trans women dominating. >> leah has excelled in her sport setting ivy-league records

and swimming best times in the 200 and 500 meter freestyles and rising significantly in the women's rankings versus the performance in the men's field. >> are there olympics in your future? >> i intend that, it's been a goal of mine to swim in the olympic trials for a very long time. i would love to see that through. >> but sunday's policy change now dashed those dreams. saying in a statement the new release is deeply upset. natalie one of the first openly trans to compete in ncaa hers less controversial than leah. >> after i transitioned i came in and breaking records i only competed at conference but certainly the fact i am not as good as leah weighs into that.

>> natalie said being able to swim as a woman played a crucial role. >> i had a history of self harm thing, thankfully i'm past that. swimming saved my life. having a ruling like this at the highest level of swimming is definitely going to have ripple effects on the lower levels and i definitely think this will be serious mental health repercussions for trans teens and younger people all throughout the country, in the world. >> included in fina's new policy creation of open competition category where athletes can compete without regard to sex, legal gender or gender identity. >> in addition to not allowing the full athletic experience that's incredibly othering to trans people who already face immense discrimination and in in other parts of our lives to again have this discrimination in sports, you can swim but only over there

in that lane. >> there are some who look at the data and suggest that you are enjoying a competitive advantage. >> there's a lot of factor that's go into a race and how well you do and the biggest change for me is that i'm happy again. and sophomore year i had my best times competing with the men i was miserable. >> critics would say you transitioned in order to be successful. >> trans people don't transition for athletics. we transition to be happy and authentic and our true selves. >> trans women are women but a few places biology really matters and women sports one of them. >> three time olympic gold medallist nancy also a founder of champion women

non-profit organization that advocates for women in sports for women and girl. >> what's an open category look like. >> you can only ask that after you have done step one to make sure the girls and women's category are specifically reserved for females. >> trans women argue that they are women and that their rights need to be protected as well. >> in real life, absolutely, 100% equality, 100% inclusion in every way but sports divided by category and the biggest category is the sex category. >> tennis legend martina is part of the women's policy working group working on rules for women's sports specifically how or if to include trans women. >> what opportunity do you think leah thompson victories take away from systemic women? >> the ones that would have been on the podium if leah was not racing, that would not go to the

championship if leah was not on the team. >> dr. joyner has been looking at fairness in sports by studying the differences in sexes and we spoke to him. he said the legacy testosterone higher in males than females with be lasting. >> what are the physical aspects that trans women may not be able to roll back with hormone therapy. >> issues related to body size, airway size, foot side, perhaps bone dense xfinity, main thing is the interactions of the training and scalable muscle. >> are you saying years of hormone therapy cannot put trans women in a place to compete with sis gender women? >> the evidence so far would suggest paerd of one or two or three four years insufficient. >> we talked to harper in may

who advise some of the leading sport bodies on policies for trans athletes including the international olympic committee. >> i think integration of trans women into elite sports justified with certain restrictions. >> i heard some people trying to look for a middle ground, say we create a third category. >> trans people are one percent of the population. you can't have a trans category and have any meaningful competition for the people in the trans category if they only get to compete against trans people. >> leah's friend and former swimmer kyler baylor was the first openly transgender swimming in ncaa division i competition and first to compete in any ncaa division i sport. >> this is all women's and you have to know which are trans to exclude them and when you do that you force the displacement. all women's bodies. >> worried that there will be

a devastating impact that reaches far beyond sports. >> most play sports to learn cooperation and have fun and have a team and mentorship, people miss that, only 2% will go to compete in ncaa and one or two percent of those will compete in the olympics. >> transgender athletes like leah insist being true to themselves should not come at a cost. >> do you think it should come down to a choice between your sport or your gender identity? >> no i don't want other trans people to have to face that. that choice. >> up next, the changing workplace, why so many companies are embracing four-day work workplace, why so many companies are embracing four-day work weeks, and remote work. before treating your chronic migraine— 15 or more headache days a month, each lasting 4 hours or more you're not the only one with questions about botox®. botox® prevents headaches in adults with chronic migraine before they even start—with about 10 minutes of treatment once every 3 months.

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♪ the great resignation has given workers more power and their increasingly using it. why some major cooperations are shaving a day off the traditional five-day work week. >> this used to be the middle of the work day for stephanie anne. >> ring around the rosies. >> before the pandemic the attorneys work the way attorney dozen. >> we all fall. >> down. >> go down go down. >> clocking in long hours at the office at least five days a week. >> reflecting back i definitely had a much higher day-to-day stress level. i never felt like i was spending sufficient amount of time. by way of quantity or quality with my daughter back then. >> but now her fridays are

different. >> high five. >> she is here with her four-year-old daughter participating in autism therapy. >> because of the ability to spend most fridays with my daughter and just observing her progress that has changed tremendously. >> what's so funny? >> stephanie's employer thread up has switched to four-day work week, they made the decision during the paniked to completely drop their fridays. it's the same job, same pay, but fewer day. >> from monday to thursday i'm super concentrated on getting everything done. >> stephanie is part of a change in white-collar work where many employees across the country are no longer expected to go to the office five days a week and work a traditional 9:00 to 5:00. >> the interesting thing about the pandemic put everything on

the table about discussion where we live and work. >> now as employers try to retain top talent companies are ditching the cubicle culture and embracing the future, air bnb and twitter and lyft committed to flexible schedules for many of their employees. >> it creates a greater work/life balance to contribute to mental and emotionally health. >> james ryanhart is the ceo of thred up and started this last year. >> who decided to work five days and rest two. if we go back in time and start over is that what we'd all decide is the best way to live? work hard four days and rest three. >> he says this model is a win-win. >> it is clear, people decided, you know what i waste a lot time during the week, a lot of things i can do more efficiently. have a shorter meeting right.

>> critics would say you're not working on a friday that just means you're working longer hours monday to thursday. >> i think where we are in the modern technology workforce we're working all the time so how do we create more boundaries around the three-day weekend so that we acknowledge the fact that people are working really hard all the time. >> not every c-suite is ready to follow in their footsteps. last month apple delayed plans to require workers in the office three days a week after a group of more than a thousand current employees published a letter to executives saying stop treating us like school kids who need to be when and what homework to do. >> employers had the upper hand in requiring most of their work workforce report in person because that was the norm, what we were used to doing. >> now the employees often have the upper hand. but some ceo's are standing firm. come back to the office or

resign. >> elon musk has ordered tesla employees to return to work in person full time. >> in a leaked e-mail to employees musk reportedly wrote anyone who wishes to do remote work must be in the office of minimum 40 hours per week or depart tess tesla, asked about his decision he responds, they should pretend to work somewhere else. that ultimatum is something many are no longer afraid off. miss white quit her 9:00 to 5:00 when asked to come in for a meeting. >> i made a commute, dropped off my children in opposite directions and then commuted to the office, got into the office, got to the meeting and it was six minutes long and that's when i was done. that's when i said no, i can't do this. i need to find a remote position. >> now she's in a new job that is permanently remote.

>> my life has completely changed, i'm getting more sleep, i've been able to actually turn in better work because i'm actually focused on what i'm doing, not stressed out about my commute. >> some companies like tech giant salesforce strive to make the workplace a desirable place to be no matter how much you come into the office. >> we want you to you feel embraces so we got plants, it's like a neighborhood it's like grass right, we got our fajs. >> this is the chief people officer at salesforce a software company that employed 77,000 people globally. he said they didn't just not lose ploy he ooze in the pandemic they lose employees in the pandemic they actually grew. >> last year we hired over 20,000 people all virtually and onboarded them all virtual. he highlighted the 9 can to 5:00

work week is dead. >> do you mean that for salesforce or the industry as a whole. >> what i mean by that is just going into the office because the office is there, that's dead. why would i do that? >> salesforce left it up to many of their employees to decide how much to be in the office. >> we have teams that get together three days a week, once a month, teams that are completely virtual and it's something we empower them to do that so that they can determine how to do their best work. >> breeanne cole runs a team that works in the office only three day a's week. >> we're seeing better productivity. >> really? >> because you're not losing time on monday and fridays, you're doing this so you can have more time for yourself and you can have less calls where you can focus on a project. >> the four-day work week has had a major impact on stephanie's work and personal life>> been pretty transformative.

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