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kristen: were watching getting answers, live on abc seven. analyst that we ask questions to real time. today, california congresswoman who authored the bill to codify abortion rights, a bill that passed in the house but failed in the senate. representative judy chu has a blank -- plan b. san francisco muni gets ready to bring back several routes suspended during the pandemic. our partner rides the overnight bus known as the eyewall service to see what its driver and passengers reveal about the state of the city today.
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first, bombshell testimony before the january 6 committee investigating the capitol insurrection. former assistant to chief of staff mark meadows, kassidy hutchinson, offered the most direct glimpse yet into trump's actions on and before that fateful day. >> is an american, i was disgusted. it was unpatriotic. un-american. we were watching the capitol building get defaced over a lie. kristen: joining us live with more is abc news political director rick klein. of all the stunning testimony and revelations that have come out of these hearings, where you rank hutchinson? >> it is up there. we learned so much about that day and the events around january 6, but the level of detail she went into about how
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the former president knew the mob was armed, asked the magnetometers be taken down, then getting to the capitol itself. according to hutchinson he got into a scuffle with the secret service, tried to grab the wheel of the car to get himself to the capitol. and then the hours of inaction behind the scenes, despite the pleadings. he wanted to mention a pardon for the people involved. it is also dunning and fits in with the larger portrait this committee has been painting for weeks and months about what the president did that day. it leaves a lot of people in a very tough spot trying to explain and defend his actions and inactions. it all came from a 25-year-old low-level staffers who came forward at some peril to herself professionally, and maybe even personally. kristen: there's a lot of talk
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about her courage. you mentioned one of the many job droppers, the alleged scuffle between former president trump and his security chief. he wanted to go to the capitol to be with the rioters, but they were insistent he be taken back to the white house. >> the president said something to the effect of, i am the f'ing president, take me to the capitol now. bobby responded sir, we have to go back to the west wing. the president reached for the front of the vehicle to grab the steering wheel. mr. ingle grabbed his arm and said sir, you need to take your hand off the wheel. we are going back to the west wing. we are not going to the capitol. mr. trump then used his free hand to lunge toward bobby. kristen: bobby angle, is he
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going to testify? charge might this lead to, that incident alone? >> very unlikely we will see an active secret service agent testified. nothing would precluded, but the secret service -- the reason to protect the private intimate conversations of protect teas, i have never heard of an instance where an agent testified or vowed interaction against anyone they were charged with protecting. i do not know there was anything potentially criminal. this sums like this might be assault, but this is a different set of circumstances. i don't know what that adds up to. with a lot of the things that cassidy hutchinson said, i would like to know if the secret service denies it. i would like to know if other people witnessed it. they have ample opportunity. she was under oath. the people disparaging her on twitter or elsewhere are not. mark meadows is among the people
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that have been invited to testify. mike pence and many members of congress. the white house counsel. all of them have the opportunity. i think the lack of pushback we are getting into the details of what ms. hutchinson had to say speaks volumes. it is jarring, certainly not anything i could imagine. i was trying to think if even the movie version would have something like this. if there was a tom clancy movie that might have an altercation. i would reject the premise of that before you allow the script to get filmed. kristen: another shocking portion surrounds what hutchinson overheard with regards to how the president reacted to the chance of hang mike pence. rick: he said maybe they have a point. maybe they are rightfully angry. his angry was not directed toward them. the fact that he knew what many of their intentions were into they knew they were -- he heard
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about the weapons. the one reason they couldn't allow more people where the weapons. his reaction, they are my people. they are not here to hurt me. that is unimaginable. the secret service takes the threat much more seriously. you can't read someone's intentions. he viewed the mob at the capitol as his supporters. he was at that time a weapon. it weapon that by this account and many other accounts he wanted to wield on the u.s. capitol to pressure or members of congress and his own vice president to overturn the election. every bit of what i just said is unimaginable, but that is the reality. it got depicted today in more vivid detail. some of the most jarring depictions of an american president, ever, period. kristen: many others around him looked bad as well. who are those now deeply
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implicated? do you think the committee will subpoena them? >> rudy giuliani has cooperated to some extent. he was telling people close to the president that trump wanted to go to the capitol. mark meadows himself, who has not cooperated but did turn over a lot of electronic data that allowed the committee to form the backbone of its report and the direction it has gone in, he still has not cooperated. congressman jim jordan has been subpoenaed, not cooperating. i am watching to see if there is any movement out of the white house counsel's office. we heard from pat cipollone, someone who the committee has invited very publicly to testify. his interactions, as relayed by hutchinson, would be fascinating. whether he backs up that version of events. don't forget kevin mccarthy. you can't heard about this -- we
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heard clips of things he was saying to the media and what he told members of congress. the men who would be the next house speaker if republicans win the majority, kevin mccarthy, remains silent publicly about exactly what he said and what he was told in real time on january 6. this committee has done a lot of work and try to get members of congress to cooperate. i do not think they are ever going to hear from kevin mccarthy, but at us -- it is something that needs to be reminded of constantly. kristen: i thought liz cheney left us with an interesting note about how witnesses that came before the committee seemed like they were intimidated. rick: they did not attach names to it, but provided some information describing how people in trump world were reaching out.
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for lack of a better way of describing it, it sounded like how mafia bosses relate to people. we will take care you, you are part of the family, he is thinking of you. honestly, bad mobster movie stuff is the only thing that came to my mind and i'm sure the minds of a lot of people watching that. it is in keeping of what we heard from michael cohen, who went to jail, he talked about similar tactics. ultimately, that could be witness tampering. we will have to see because there is not much what -- not much you can do under the cloak of anonymity. kristen: what's next? rick: the committee was telling us they would take a break before july 4. they've got a lot of new information that has come in three documentary filmmaker. we also know there is a department of justice investigation and an
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investigation in georgia. things are moving in a lot of different directions. i think today is the last we are going to hear until the fourth of july, may be in the middle of july be will see the committee fire up again for what could still be a series of blockbuster hearings. kristen: a stunning day. thank you so much for joining us today. >> thank you. kristen: we will back with a california congresswoman working
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kristen: the battle over abortion rights in the aftermath of the supreme court overturning roe v. wade is being waged in dozens of states. in the past 24 hours, judges have temporarily blocked trigger
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laws in louisiana, utah, texas. -- governors are offering clemency. meantime, abortion-rights supporters are demanding more action from the federal government. although a congressional effort to codify it failed, california representative who was lead author of the women's health protection act has a plan b. joining us is congresswoman judy chu who represents pasadena. >> thank you for having me. kristen: quickly i want to talk about january 6. we heard about the former assistant -- assistant to mark meadows who painted a frightening picture of what went on. what is your reaction to what we heard today? >> i have been transfixed by these january 6 earrings. i was there at the capitol on that day, getting ready to go
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down for my office to the house floor to vote on the certification of arizona. that is when i saw on the tv monitor that the capitol had been breached. i immediately shut my doors. i did not answer any knock. i turned the tv volume low because i did not want anybody to know i was there. i was checked in for eight hours. i didn't know if anybody found me, if they would kill me. i am chilled by what happened on those days and chilled by the deliberateness that i saw in these hearings with regard to former president trump and his followers, some of them knowing full well that there was no fraud whatsoever, but they had to perpetuate an election lie and they knew these were lies. the fact that they also did
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fundraising off of this, which did not go to the sources they said it would, is even worse. kristen: your reaction is not an uncommon one. even perhaps among republicans, though few are saying it out loud. i know what you're reaction to roe v. wade is. but, you saw this coming. you introduce the women's health protection act that passed in the house and failed in the senate by two votes. talk about what it would have done, and what now. >> the women's health protection act will enshrine roe v. wade into law. it will ensure that every woman in every state can have access to an abortion, and also states cannot erode those laws by chipping away at it.
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i am proud of our house of representatives. after the texas law about the bounty hunters was passed, we actually passed the women's health protection act. it was by a strong vote of 218-211. it was the most supported abortion rights bill that has ever been passed in the history of congress. it did go over to the senate, it did not get the vos -- votes. it was about 49-51. two votes short of actually getting it passed. that is why when we come back in july, we are going to pop -- push my bill on the -- put my bill on the floor again with other bills which would protect women's rights across state boundaries. at protect their right to privacy. and we will send it to the senate again. kristen: that is part of the
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plan. i want to ask about other ideas that have been thrown out. some feel less of the federal government could do more. the biden administration could do more. he could be leading rallies, calling for the impeachment of justices who misled senators and their hearings. he could be setting up clinics on federal land. in red states to provide abortions. the administration has not shown it is interested in that. what is your feeling? >> president biden has actually moved the needle quite a bit these past few months. he has put forth important measures allowing telehealth visits in order to get the abortion pill. remember, half abortions now are medication abortions through these pills. he also ended the gag rule on doctors being able to talk about abortion to their patients. right now, they appear to be working on measures to ensure
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that women can cross state lines , and also a rule that abortion pills will be available in every state, regardless of abortion bans, since the fda has ruled they are safe. states can't overrule the fda on that determination of safety of those pills. there are measures they are undertaking. kristen: i want to ask, a lot of people point to the fact that justice clarence thomas roach that other landmark decisions should be revisited. decisions that guarantee americans the right to same-sex marriage and contraception. what are democrats doing to ensure those rights? do plan to hold votes to codify those rights? >> what clarence thomas rights is very serious. he is saying that every decision that was made related to due
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process of the 14th amendment should be in question. that is the basis upon which roe v. wade was indeed passed by the supreme court. that means that other measures that relied on that are in jeopardy. whether it is contraception or same-sex marriage or being able to love who you want to love. we have to fight that. here's what i would say to everybody, what this comes down to is affecting the midterm elections. voting. i have a concrete reason for this, it is because in order to combat with the supreme court is doing, we have to be able to vote and overcome the filibuster in the senate. but, we could do that if we got
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just two senators elected who would then vote to end the filibuster, therefore we could pass bills like the women's health protection act with just a majority vote. kristen: we could probably talk a lot more but we are out of time. i hope you will come back on the show, especially when you put your bill on the floor. thank you so much. >> thank you. kristen: we will be back with a look
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kristen: long after much of the city has gone to bed, san francisco muni overnight buses come to life. i will buses are critical for those who depend on them. our media partners at the san francisco standard recently rubbing a bus to give us a look at what happens in the wee hours. joining us live is the reporter
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who produced this story, mike kobach. mike: think you for having me. kristen: i am curious, why did you want to ride the bus all night? what did you want to better understand? mike: i had made videos about transportation stories in the past. i was curious about doing something with muni buses, specifically these owl buses. these buses service the cities between the hours of 1:00 and 5:00 a.m. i thought, there might be a cool visual element to this, seeing how the city looks through the eyes of a muni bus and driver. kristen: i think you really pick up the vibe in the heartbeat of the city. euro bank the 90 saint bruno to visitation valley.
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mike: a few times. kristen: you met some passengers who take the owl. let's meet a few. >> where you going? >> work. mike: ready work? >> mcdonald's. we open at 5:00, but i start at 4:00. every morning. mike: where you going? >> back home. i need to walk around a little bit. [indiscernible] i wanted to get out for a little bit. kristen: they seemed really forthcoming and friendly. they were up for talking that early, or late at night. mike: they were. i approached them and asked if i could just ask them a few
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questions about where they are going and why they are on the bus at this time. just simple things like that. through that, i got a few different responses, like the ones we just saw. i ran into people that -- the woman, she started her shift at mcdonald's at 4:00 a.m. that was 3:30 in the morning. i was getting a variety of responses. kristen: i would be like, do not talk to me. i think it speaks to the importance of this service. she needs to get to work. the heart and soul of your story is the driver and he really opened up to you about how he feels. >> i do see a lot. you see a lot of people down on their luck. a lot of them just want to go somewhere, that is fine with me.
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what i see now is people are just going downhill. it is getting a little worse. as of october of this year, i can actually say i will have been driving for muni for 14 years. 14 years have gone by pretty fast. kristen:kristen: he seems like he has pride in it. which is fabulous. he does mirror some of the concerns that some residents have in terms of drug use, crime and how things may be changing. mike: he has been driving 14 years. specifically, the owl buses for four years. in his time driving, he has told me he has seen the city change in ways that are not always great. he does see more homeless encampments. he does see more drug use, particularly fentanyl.
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not always on his bus, it's -- but sometimes when he is dropping people off. kristen: i want to ask if you learned what you set out to learn. mike: in a way, yes. my biggest take away was that these buses are a vital service for a large population of san francisco. it is not always seen by people during the day. kristen: thank you. great work. you can check out more. we will continue to bring you more sections featuring the standard's
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kristen: tha tonight, the revealing testimony before the american people. a former white house aide inside the west wing describing former president trump the morning of january 6th, saying he wanted security to allow armed protesters inside his speech. and she testified that she was told the former president later in the presidential suv lunged at a secret service agent when the president was told they could not take him to the capitol. cassidy hutchinson, a top aide to mark meadows, whose own desk was just down the hall from the oval office, testifying about the crucial days just before january 6th and then about the day itself. there for the president's speech at the ellipse that morning. she said she heard the president say, "let the protesters who are armed in." the president saying, "they're

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