>> building a better bay area. moving forward, finding solutions. this is abc7 news. kristen: hi there, you are watching getting answers live on abc7. we always ask experts every day at 3:00 to get answers in real time. as temper just to students today enjoyed the final week before school begins, the new superintendent is busy solving major problems from a teacher shortage to declining enrollment to covid. the superintendent will join us live. also california is the first state in the nation to offer free breakfast and lunch to all students. no questions asked. state senator nancy skinner will join us to talk about how this happened and how students may benefit. first, a federal court just

unsealed the search warrant that justice department investigator used to seize documents from former president trump's florida property. joining us live to talk about the warrant and what it reveals, the potential laws violated, and possible consequences, a prosecutor in the san francisco das office and law clerk to the former chief judge of the northern district of california. vernon, thanks for coming on the show. vernon: thank you for having me. kristen: the bombshell unsealed warrant reveals three criminal laws that could have been violated. walk us through what they were. vernon: the first one can be referred to as the removal of documents acts. it makes it a crime to take any federal document, wherever it is located -- it can be a map in a federal library -- and it to be

removed in an unauthorized way, that carries a three year possible prison sentence, but perhaps more importantly, that particular provision disqualifies the person if they are in officeholder from running for office again. so that is really a significant uniqueness about that statute. kristen: that is what everyone was wondering, would that preclude him from running in 2024? if convicted, that would be out. also the espionage act is another one. let's zero in on espionage act. we watch that in movies and think that is where you pass on national secrets to a foreign actor, is that what it has to mean ehre? -- mean here? vernon: at its core, that is the sense of it, aiding another

foreign actor in some way, however the crime is in gathering materials to do so, with the intention of doing so. if you start collecting data, documents, photographs or anything else and it is possible that you will give them to someone who is adverse to united states, that is a violation of the act as well. that act carries a 20 year maximum prison sentence. that is the maximum prison sentence, but technically the statute carries the death penalty. i know that sounds quite extraordinary, but it has happened in one notable case in u.s. history. it is the most severe spy charge. kristen: let's talk about what they hauled away. before we get to that point there are many steps, including having to prove that. what did the agents haul away? we understand there are some 20 boxes and they have classifications including top-secret. walk us through what they are and what types of documents they

may be to get that classification. vernon: just so listeners understand, and the federal system there are three levels of classified documents. there is confidential documents, there is secret documents and there is top-secret documents. top-secret being the most, the highest formal category. now, all those documents, any classified document has to be marked as such. there are rules that something that is confidential has to be marked as such to protect the information they are in. even within top-secret there are special provisions to have some groups, even more secure groups, who are the only people who can see certain other documents. within the documents that are contained or were seized, there are markings of classified documents, confidential documents -- i did not see secret, but certainly top-secret

documents, boxes that are labeled top-secret documents. i think there was two or three of them. the other thing is, like the search warrant generally mother is a lot that has been revealed but there is a lot we still don't know. of the 11 boxes seized, a lot of it is generically marked box of documents, box 16, box of documents. that could contain any number of things that maybe they don't want the general public to know is out there. it could contain correspondences with other people. the search warrant itself also says they are looking for not just classified material, but also evidence that could support any of these offenses. and in particular they would be looking for any attempt to communicate with someone who

might be receiving such information. and the search warrant goes further. it is not just limited to documents, it says documents and things. so, for instance, especially when it comes to communication, it could be computer records, although it does not say computer records, but it could be videotapes of people coming and going. if they thought that would convey there were meetings happening with someone, something like that. we know a lot, but there's a lot we don't know yet. kristen: is there any way these types of documents could be taken out of the white house to a private property such as mar-a-lago and still be within the confines of what is legal for a president to do? vernon: well, legal -- you could argue that because these statutes do require an intent. we talked about two of them.

the third is obstruction of justice, which is removing and destroying, altering things in order to prevent the truth from coming out in court or in the law enforcement context. but there has to be an intention. so if it were inadvertent in some way, perhaps, that these things just ended up there. oh my gosh, i'm a terrible file keeper. it is marked golf score sheets and and it is confidential documents, sorry, i did not know that. that would be a defense. kristen: people are wondering if that is an argument he could make, that it was accidental. the other one is, what if this were all declassified? as president, could he have declassified all this information, even if it were top-secret nuclear weapons information, and therefore not a crime? vernon: no. to answer that question, the answer is no.

for certain levels of top-secret information, other clearances are required before it can be declassified. it is not solely within the jurisdiction of the cause -- of the president. it has to be itemized. there is a process around that. kristen: we have less than a minute, but i want to ask super quickly, one, what are the next steps? and two, as frustrating as it is for the public, because it is vague about the items taken, will all this have to become more public and more revealed as part of any trial process, if there were to be one? vernon: not all of it, just that which the prosecutor would want to use to prove their case. they may not if they can prove their case using fewer documents rather than more documents. they will do that if they think they can lock it down. these are national secrets in some cases. you don't want in any way to risk their exposure, first of all.

we will get some more information. if there is evidence of other crimes discovered during a search warrant execution, then new offenses can be alleged as well. we are going to see more of that. it will be interesting to see if the affidavit, the document that really holds the key. the affidavit is when an officer says, your honor, i need to search this place. why? i think these crimes have been committed. why do you believe that? that is when you find out how they knew that this stuff would be here, particularly that there was a safe, which was interesting. they came with a safe cracker. kristen: we are zooming in and out. i think it is a good time for us to call it for today. thank you for your time. a former prosecutor and law clerk. we will talk again soon. vernon: thank you, kristen. kristen: coming up next we will introduce you to san francisco unified's new superintendent and

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kristen: welcome back. san francisco public school students will go back to school next week amid controversy, challenges, and covid. this is happening under new leadership in the district, a brand-new superintendent. joining us to talk about the district's most pressing issues and how he intends to solve them, san francisco unified superintendent, dr. matt wayne. thanks for coming on the show. dr. wayne: thanks for having me. kristen: this is actually a homecoming for you, isn't it? dr. wayne: i was an executive director from 2010 to 2012,

supervising schools to support principles and the schools. i am excited to be back. it feels like coming back home. kristen: i know you have not been on the job all that long, but you have been very busy. in terms of getting schools ready this year, there is 70 challenges. i want to start with covid. things are different this school year. mountain view is sort of an outlier in starting the school year with an outdoor mass mandate. what is san francisco's policy for this fall? dr. wayne: we are excited to start this school year. it is not going to be back to pre-pandemic times, but very different than last year. we know so much more about how to manage covid. the san francisco school district will be following cdc guidelines, so masks will still be strongly recommended. we are also encouraging families to test their students before sending them to school, just with all the travel that can happen during summer break. we have testing available if families need testing.

we also are connecting them to resources throughout the city. i think we are well prepared. the pandemic, covid-19 is here to stay, but we have the tools to manage it and support our students. kristen: it sounds like you are in alignment with the cdc. that includes their latest guidance just yesterday, that kids do not have to quarantine if they have been exposed, that they don't have to test either and don't have to test negative before they return to campus, right? after a certain number of days, of course. dr. wayne: correct. kristen: i want to know if you made improvement over the summer to airfield ration -- to air filtration to secure the safest possible environment. dr. wayne: last year the district put in a lot of air filtration systems. we have been maintaining and upgrading them not just for covid-19, but we are also entering wildfire season. we want to make sure that we can do what it takes to keep our students at school, and that

this is a safe place for them regarding -- for them regardless of what happens outside of school. we want to make sure the air purification systems are working. kristen: terms of school readiness, another challenge is staffing shortage, not just san francisco, miniature sticks -- many districts confronting the issue. have you hired all the teachers and staff you need to ensure when kids come back next week they have the proper student-teacher ratio and all the classes and offerings can be maintained? dr. wayne: we are working hard to ensure that every position is filled. what we have done is make sure that through our new hires, plus re-signing any available staff, that all students will have a teacher with them in the classroom when they show up. we are working hard to onboard staff as quickly as possible and get them trained as well as reassigning staff. the teacher shortage, there is just a staffing shortage in all of education that we are working

to address. our parity is students have teachers -- priority is students have teachers. kristen: in terms of recruiting, one of the big issues is affordable housing for teachers. i know you are really advocating for a charter amendment on the november ballot. tell us what that is and how it could help. dr. wayne: separate but related issues. first of all, i just signed paperwork actually to move to the next step on our teacher housing project to have affordable housing for teachers. that is an exciting opportunity to invite new teachers into the city and know they will have a chance to access affordable housing. the charter amendment is to bring much-needed resources to our schools, working with the city to allocate funding to support us in our efforts to meet student outcome goals and to take a community schools approach where we have the services in place to support the

student in the classroom and families beyond the classroom. i really appreciate being in a city that is so supportive of public education. kristen: you come during a somewhat difficult time in the district, during the recalled recently of -- recall recently of board members. we hear of division in the community. what do you think when you look at the district, as you talk to people, is the community as divided as the headlines suggest, or do you see common ground? and if so, where is that? dr. wayne: the common ground i see is everyone wants the district to be successful. that is what is exciting. i am being welcomed warmly. people want to see san francisco schools succeed. there is a lot of different ideas how to do that, but i think people are ready to work together around that. what is exciting is our board of education is committed to having our focus be on student outcomes. we have had several workshops

that came in all day on a sunday to update our vision values and goals. they will be out in the coming indeed to make sure that what we developed aligns with the needs. it has been challenging, but i believe everyone in san francisco is ready to focus on raising those student outcomes for our students. kristen: what are there other top priorities -- are your other top priorities? dr. wayne: first of all, a good start to the school year, that is really important. that is why we've been working so hard on the staffing. i want us to be focused on the classroom, making sure our time and energy is on getting students the education they deserve, that they have the right curriculum, that the right programs are in place. also looking forward at what programs and opportunities will help our students succeed when they leave san francisco unified as well. we have schools that have career pathways. we have arts programs.

so our portfolio of schools and making sure the community understands that we have schools that can meet every child's needs. kristen: declining enrollment has been plaguing the district for a decade now, exacerbated by the pandemic. i wonder, this leads to budget challenges -- what can you do to reverse that and to be competitive and have people say i want my kids to go to a san francisco public school? dr. wayne: it is difficult because there is some things we can control and a lot of things we can't. we can't control the cost of living in the bay area, but what we can control is what we are offering to our families so they know we have programs that will support their students. families want their kids to be successful in school. they want to know that whatever their kid's interests are, there are opportunities to pursue that . that is what is unique about san francisco. our 100 plus schools, there are opportunities you can get here

that you can't get anywhere else. we need to make sure the public understands that. that is what we are sharing about our school district as opposed to any challenges. we do have additional funding from the state. it helps us. we have a lot to do to stabilize our finances, but the focus should be on the amazing programs that are here and why it's so special for a student, for a family to raise their child in san francisco and at one of our schools. kristen: thank you so much for joining us. best of luck as you get the kids back to school next week. dr. matt wayne. appreciate it. we will be right back to talk free lunches for all public school students i'm jonathan lawson here to tell you about life insurance through the colonial penn program. if you're age 50 to 85, and looking to buy life insurance on a fixed budget, remember the three ps. the three what? the three ps? what are the three ps? the three ps of life insurance

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program is state senator from the bay area, nancy skinner, who represents oakland. thank you so much for being here. i see you are all smiles. that is because you helped lead this program and made it a reality. why is this something you championed so much? sen. skinner: we have so many kids in california who are hunger challenged. going to school hungry does not work well with education. and then we have these great programs where we can provide meals, but we require the families to show proof of income, to show they are eligible income-wise. then a lot of kids felt shamed. they did not want to be tagged as the poor kid who had to get the free lunch. really, the best thing to do is just provide everybody meals, because then you don't have to worry about anybody going hungry. you don't have to have the shame game. schools are better, kids are better. everything is good. kristen: talk about how this has evolved. last year at my own kid's school

they provided free breakfast and lunch. at that point i thought it had become universal, but that was only partially funded by the federal government and it was not every district. talk about what has happened now. sen. skinner: during the pandemic, the federal government stepped up and said, look, we see a lot of people had to leave their jobor have gotten laid off, so they really expended the meal program so most every kid got meals. -- almost every kid got meals. when the federal government stopped their pandemic funding program, that was going to stop meals in california. california's revenues are very healthy now. we realized we needed to continue it, it just makes sense. it makes sense for the student's welfare and for the benefit of the school. we had the funding to do so, to have in our last year's budget the funding to provide two free meals for every public school

student in california. and that's what is launching this fall. i'm so proud of it. kristen: it takes a long time to have a bill turned into law. when you started working on this, you could not have perceived that we would've had inflation. talk about the timing of that. sen. skinner: families are even more food challenged now because of the costs. however, ironically california's revenues were higher and we had a surplus this year, so we were able to direct even more money to make up for the higher costs that even our schools are having to incur for the meals. we are in good shape to provide those free school meals to every student. governor newsom was a great champion, as was his first partner, his wife. they were great champions of this. and another great thing people should know is a lot of the school districts are making

direct relationships with california farmers and buying their food directly from them. it is very much a win-win. kristen: it is not the frozen pizza that i had growing up, that is for sure. a couple practical questions quickly. one, how will the menus take into account food allergies and dietary restrictions? two, do we worry about wasted money or food? not all students who are eligible, which is everybody, will want one. sen. skinner: each of our school sites have great nutrition staff and food staff. they figure that kind of thing out. they realize they have kids who have food sensitivities. they make sure their menus address that. then they watch over time, what is eaten, what isn't. they want to minimize food waste also. we were fortunate to have these great school staff, which universal meals benefits,

because it gets to expand the number of kitchen and food service staff. they are smart and attentive to their students' needs. kristen: this is not just lunch. we are talking breakfast as well. sen. skinner: pre-k, meaning before kindergarten, all the way to high school senior. kristen: state senator nancy skinner, thank you for talking with us about the universal meals program. sen. skinner: thank you. kristen: getting answers continues in just a moment, but first a reminder. you can get our live newscasts with the abc7 bay area streaming tv app available on apple tv, tv app available on apple tv, android tv, fire tv and i had no idea how much i wamy case was worth. c call the barnes firm to find out what your case could be worth. we will help get you the best result possible. ♪ call one eight hundred, eight million ♪

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joining us on this interactive show, getting answers. we will be here every weekday a headlines as we come on the air. a federal magistrate judge unsealing the warrant used to search former president trump's home at mar-a-lago. what they allegedly found. the warrant revealing donald trump is under investigation for potential violations of the espionage act and possible obstruction of justice. the property receipt showing what federal agents took from mar-a-lago, including 11-sets of classified information, some marked top secret. one set of documents referring to top secret sensitive information, meaning only a select few are allowed access in secure locations. so what does this all mean now and where does this go from here? jonathan karl and dan abrams standing by. also tonight, author salman rushdie attacked on stage in western new york.