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♪ and so you ran up here, but when you opened the door, what did you see in there? >> she wa not breathing. she was dead. bianca lying down, lying down, facing up like this. >> and the husband, larry rudolph, he was standing near to her body crying, what am i going to tell my children. >> now this is a man who is a succ successful dentist. hi, i'm dr. larry rudolph. at three rivers dental group, we make going to the dentist affordable. >> larry rudolph was a good dentist.
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accident, suicide, murder? there's almost no evidence. all this is in zambia. why is the embassy involved? why the fbi? >> she wasn't just this hunter that was married to larry. she was like someone's mom. >> they're a wealthy couple both safari hunters, and one is dead. ♪ >> zambia is in southern africa, it's landlocked above south africa. >> if you look at our country, it forms that middle part of
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africa and is called the smile of africa. >> and it shares victoria falls with zimbabwe to its south. ♪ zambia's wildlife and seeing the magnificence of nature is really arguably its greatest treasure. >> and also have abundant wildlife in zbi♪ elephants, lions, leopards, cheetah. >> the parks in zambia are the things that impress the national parks. and 33% of the national parks' land is kafue national park. it's the biggest park in the country. >> kafue national park and the so-called game management area where hunting is allowed draw
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tourists of all kinds from nature lovers who are armed with cameras to big game hunters and their big guns. >> the hunt has to happen deeper in the bush, right, in more remote places. >> that's where the animals are. americans love safari hunting. 60% of all safari hunting that takes place in zambia is supported by americans. >> i have friends who read about teddy roosevelt's safari to africa. and since they were kids they wanted to go over there and hunt some sort of big game. ♪ >> here in zambia, hunting is called the big boy's game. it's not for every jim and jack. it involves people with money. when you hunt a lion, when you hunt a leopard it's expensive because these are prime, prime animals.
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>> it seems especially when you talk about big trophy hunting, this is an expensive endeavor. >> it is. you can pay 60, 80, $100,000 for an one animal. >> many hunters come back not just with pictures of their conquests in the field but what's called a trophy. >> a trophy can range from an entire stuffed animal down to skulls or elephant tusks or hippo tusks, antlers. >> can you explain what makes you proud to display an animal and why people love trophies so far? >> because they lead to stories and it creates a conversation. it's more about recollection, remembrance of what it took to get to where i was in getting that animal. there are those who may want to get records on it and say that, look, i killed the biggest of this species.
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>> these people, they just come to hunt animals from the wild, from the bush. some they don't even get the trophies, they just want to shoot. >> hi, my name is dr. larry rudolph. i'm here on the banks of the kafue river in zambia. i've been doing some lion hunting and just having a great adventure. >> larry rudolph was one of those americans who traveled frequently to kafue national park to hunt. he even videotaped himself to help promote the hunting club he was part of. he and bianca his wife of 34 years often hunted together posting their adventures on social media. >> this was their love. they went at least once a year, sometimes twice a year. they went a lot. >> larry was a very well respected dentist in the city of pittsburgh. >> dr. rudolph is really kind of a pioneer on advertising. he was on billboards on tv. >> i'm dr. larry rudolph. don't take chances with your
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dental care. >> a lot of people looked at him as like a celebrity. he brought people in from his commercials. >> i really do understand your fears about going to the dentist. >> patients really liked him and he was a good businessman and a good dentist. >> i was impressed with the practice and how he was running it. >> when he was in dental school he met bianca. they hit it off and got married. >> he quickly established a dental firm with some partners. bianca at one point was working with larry in the dental office, but soon stepped back and began to take care of their two children julia and anna bianca. >> wonderful lady. she was very open, warm, loving. >> when i looked at her, i was, like, she has so much class. she just held herself really well. >> in 2009 larry changed direction and started his own practice called three rivers dental. >> the main office was in
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pittsburgh, and he had a number of other smaller offices and a number of dentists working for him. >> let us create a beautiful new smile just for you. >> it was really lucrative. he became quite wealthy through that business. >> when i came to work for dr. rudolph, they were making close to 200,000 a month. i was shocked. i was like, wow, they really know what they're doing here. larry's passion was of course giving people beautiful smiles. but his other passion was hunting. i knew he was a hunter because he bragged about it. >> now, bianca didn't start out as a hunter, according to her friends and brothers, she was more interested in italian language and culture when she was younger. but after years of marriage to larry had gone all in on hunting, even traveling solo to africa at times to hunt. >> the two were both avid members of the safari club international. >> safari club international is a group that advocates hunters'
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rights as well as proper conservation and hunting rights and privileges. >> and the motto is? >> first for hunters. >> larry set his sights on safari club international as president. and he got it not once but twice. >> hi, i'm larry rudolph, president of safari club international. >> and larry was a proud spokesman making and starring front and center in videos for the organization. >> we are hunters, and we're here tonight to celebrate what we do. >> how quickly did he rise up the ranks of the organization? >> more quickly than i had seen anyone else do. he was quite the salesman. >> how was he able to sell himself so well? >> i guess others were taking it more easily than i was. it means that i didn't look upon him to be quite the person who he was projecting himself to be. >> he was a dr. jekyll/mr. hyde
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hi, i'm dr. larry rudolph. at three rivers dental group, we make going to the dentist affordable. >> larry rudolph was a good dentist. he was skillful. he could be charming and friendly. but that was not really him. >> for all of larry's amazing global adventures, there was one where he sustained a pretty serious injury. and the story behind it, his friends say, seems a little bit too farfetched. >> larry's in zambia, and he
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says he was bitten by a crocodile. what did he tell you? >> he came to me and he said, "i caught a fish. and as i was bringing it in, i reached down to get the fish, and this crocodile came up and bit the tip of my finger off. and now i've got a thumb that is missing sensation. it's a disability claim i'm making because, as a dentist, i need this." and he said, "they told me, based on the tears on the back of my pants, it was a ten-foot crocodile." >> i sense some suspicion about this story? >> more than suspicion. it was incredible to me. i've never believed that story. >> the insurance companies believed it. not one, not two, not three, but four disability pay outs. larry raked in 30 grand a month without lifting a finger doing any dental work.
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>> he was a dr. jekyll, mr. hyde personality to be sure. >> everyone knew that he was seeing other women, everyone in our practice. it was his m.o. as long as i knew him, he always had something on the side. >> lori milliron worked with dr. rudolph for many years, and they had an affair starting very early on. >> lori's a divorcee. she has three children. she worked as a dental hygienist and worked in larry's office. >> and that's where she -- she met dr. rudolph. he was her boss during that time period. >> clearly larry was fond of whatever assets lori had to offer because he hired her at the first practice and then took her with him to three rivers dental and gave her a promotion. she ran the office. >> it became obvious after a while when they had drove in together or, like, came in the same car.
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>> i thought, "wow, so people actually cheat on their spouses. >> rachel anders was the girlfriend of lori's son, and moved in with lori when she became pregnant. >> lori introduced me. said, "this is larry. this my boyfriend." and he drove up in a white range rover, white interior, black trim, super sporty. and i said, "all right, i guess he got some money." >> he bought her a car, paid for the townhome. she could go from payless to actually into michael kors or louis vuitton. everything we wanted, she provided, just have to call larry. "i just have to call larry. i just gotta call larry." i watch him drive up into the house with a bentley. and he said, "i bought the bentley 'cause it's a good deal." and lori was mad. "i want you to have an aston martin. you're supposed to be like james bond."
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>> now, according to her lawyer, lori thought everyone except for his children knew about her relationship with larry. everyone including his wife, bianca. >> it might have been secretive to his children, understandably. that's something you shield the children from. but it was never the thought of, "bianca has no idea about that." i mean, everybody knew who she was. she traveled all over the world with this guy for years. >> they went to africa, alaska, arizona, california, the super bowl. >> it was nonstop. a normal person doesn't travel 60 times in a year. >> one trip to alaska took place just after larry rudolph became president of safari club international in 2009. >> she pulls out photos and says, "i got to meet sarah palin. oh, my god, she's so beautiful." >> lori says that the highlight of the trip was meeting sarah palin. but for the members of safari club international, the standout part of the trip was meeting lori.
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>> i thought it was grossly inappropriate as the president of safari club international to bring a female, stay in the same room, giving every appearance of, ah -- >> being a couple? >> well, that and marital infidelity. >> larry's dalliances don't stop with lori. he appears to be pursuing yet another woman from the safari club. and this causes an argument with an executive board member of the club, in public. >> there was a exchange that, at one point, became slightly heated by both parties. i said, "why would you -- why would you risk another person's marriage by making these unfounded rumors?" >> now, this argument turns into a big investigation by s.c.i., and larry was kicked out of the club and stripped of his hunting records. >> now he wasn't the power broker he once considered himself to be. >> and he actually filed a
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defamation suit against safari club international. >> that's my understanding. >> he believed people were spreading false rumors and that would upset his wife. so he felt like he needed to come out and sue. >> whether bianca was upset about this, it did not prevent her from supporting larry publicly. >> now, bianca testified under oath, in a deposition, that if anything happened between her husband and another s.c.i. member -- let me read verbatim. "we discussed it. we resolved it. we moved on. it's done." >> she also said she had no knowledge of any sexual relationship between larry and lori. >> bianca says that this removal from s.c.i. had such a tremendous impact on their lives. her exact words were, "it changed everything." >> eventually, the lawsuit was settled out of court under
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confidential terms. but what bianca said, that everything had changed, was true. >> at this point, the rudolphs' daughter, anabianca, is attending dental school in arizona. so they bought a house in the phoenix area. so that means that larry's traveling back and forth. >> he was, most of the time, away in arizona and then flying back in. >> at three rivers dental, lori's the boss. >> lori was basically having to run the practice. >> she oversaw all the offices. >> he was not traveling with her as much. he was traveling with bianca quite a bit more. >> according to anna grimley, a former a former employee of three rivers dental, lori was losing her patience with this arrangement. >> lori came to my house on a saturday. she did bring over some wine. and i gave her some glasses and she poured us a cup of wine.
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>> in over 30 years of marriage, there had been plenty of turbulence in bianca and larry rudolph's relationship. >> we know that there are cracks in the foundation of this 34 year marriage. zambia was a place that was a point of passion for both of them. and so, perhaps the idea is, let's go there. let's do another exotic adventure together, and we can solidify our relationship. >> they loved going hunting. they weren't fighting, they weren't at each other's throats.
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>> in late-september of 2016, larry and bianca rudolph make the almost 20-hour flight from phoenix to lusaka, the capital of zambia. and then they travel for another five hours or so by land to kafue national park. >> this is what a traffic jam looks like in the kafue national park. we can't get through because the lions and cubs in the road. and when those guys are on the road, nobody goes anywhere. the rudolphs were accompanied by their longtime hunting guide, mark swanepoel. >> mark and the rudolphs had a relationship, for a long time. they clearly were friends. >> they were also accompanied by a local game scout who actually
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lived in the park, named spencer kakoma. >> lawrence and bianca came here for 14 days. >> larry and bianca seemed like they were in a good relationship. >> yes. >> they were kissing, hugging? >> yeah. >> she was like a mother in the hunting group. >> she was very friendly. >> she was very fun. someone you can joke with. >> were both bianca and larry rudolph hunting, or was it just her? >> um, the one was hunting, the wife, bianca rudolph. >> now, as many hunters do, the rudolphs took two guns with them for the hunt, a remington .375 rifle and a browning 12-gauge shotgun. >> and how had bianca rudolph handled herself around the rifle? >> bianca, she was one of the experienced hunters i've worked with. >> she was one of the most experienced hunters? >> yes, whenever we see some animals, she was killing with a single shot. the hunting starts when the sun rises.
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>> how many animals did she kill? >> bianca, she killed a lot of animals. she started with a hippo, she killed zebra, jackbeast, impala, she killed a lot of animals. >> but despite all of those kills, bianca had her sights on one animal in particular. >> bianca came to hunt leopard. >> she had gone on a number of trips, was unable to -- to get the leopard. >> when hunting animals like cats, it's very tricky. they are very active at night. it's very rare for you to see them during the day. >> on this hunting, bianca was unsuccessful. she didn't manage to hunt the leopard. >> larry said, "let's stay a few extra days." but bianca did not want to. she wanted to get back to the united states because -- because
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her nephew was getting married back in the u.s. >> this is a shuttle. we're on the beautiful, majestic kafue river. >> to reach the campground where the rudolphs had been staying, we had to travel two hours by boat along the kafue. >> the rudolphs did not take a boat because it was dry season, so they drove? >> they were driving, yes. >> is the current always this strong? >> yes. >> if the current doesn't get you, there are hippos and crocodiles? >> they will get you. they were the first cabin. >> the morning of october 11th, they're getting ready to come back to the united states.
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>> they were up at 4:00 a.m. and there are people in and out of the cabin, people bringing them coffee, people helping them take the luggage outside. and just feet away in the dining hall, their guides, mark swanapole and spencer kakoma, were tallying the number of animals that bianca had killed during the hunt, and that's when kakoma says they heard a gunshot ring out from the couple's cabin. >> we heard the shotgun. we heard the voice of a woman who was screaming. started running. >> so you ran up here? >> yes. myself and mark swanepoel. i opened the door, so i -- i went in, i found bianca rudolph. she was laying down here with a shotgun was just near her foot. i touched bianca, she was not breathing. >> and when kakoma got to the
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cabin, he says larry rudolph was frantic. >> and the husband, larry rudolph, he was standing near to her body, crying, "what am i going to tell my children? what am i going to tell my children. let me just kill myself because my wife, she has committed suicide." i took hold of him by the hands. >> so you grabbed him strong? forcefully? >> yes. i started comforting him. don't kill yourself. >> but kakoma says that larry pulled away from him and then ran towards the kafue river. he wanted to throw himself in the river. i mean, this is a very fast moving river right now. what happens if you throw yourself in this river? >> you die, or you will be eaten by a crocodile. there is a lot of crocodile here. >> now, right there on the kafue river, kakoma says that he asked rudolph about bianca's death a second time. >> "what happened, what has really happened?" and he told me that the wife,
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bianca rudolph, was trying to put the gun in the gun case. it didn't fit well, so they tried to force it by forcing it. that's how it went off. >> hold on. did he say it was suicide? or did he say it was an accident? because you said earlier, the first thing he said is she committed suicide. >> yes. that's what he told me. >> and then down by the river, he changed it to, it went off accidentally. >> yes. >> as he tried to coax larry away from that river, kakoma said they had to report the deadly accident to the police. >> this is a police case. we have to go and report it to the nearest police station. larry rudolph said, "are they not going to arrest me? are they not going to suspect me of killing my wife?" >> so minutes after his wife is found with a giant shotgun wound in her chest, he's worried about whether he's going to be a suspect? >> yes. >> looking at this picture, we have a gunshot, a dead wife, and a husband whose story seems to
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one of the things that makes this such a hunter's paradise is how remote this place is. it is vast. and if you get in trouble, if you get injured, even if you can get a cell phone signal out and take an ambulance three hours to get here, another three hours to the nearest clinic, and hours longer to an actual hospital. >> but, sadly, for bianca, it is already way too late for her to get medical attention. >> we didn't move anything. i just touched bianca and find
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out she's dead. >> now the parks investigator still remembers the call he received the morning that bianca rudolph was shot. >> there's an accident which has happened that a female has shot herself accidently as he was packing the firearm. >> he was one of the first investigators to arrive at the rudolph's cabin. >> when you opened the door, what did you see? >> when the door was opened, we found the body of deceased bianca lying down, lying down up like this. >> was there a lot of blood? >> yes, and next to it there was a firearm. >> and the gun that she supposedly accidently shot herself with is still lying nearby her in its soft case still. >> the scene of crime expert, now he was getting photos, trying to reconstruct the scene of crime.
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then trying to turn the body to see the bullet and how the bullet came i and out. >> investigators find that parts of larry's story just don't seem to make sense. like the fact that he was fully dressed at the time of the shooting. >> according to dr. lawrence, he said, he went to take a shower. then he heard a gunshot in the room. but when spencer arrived at the scene, spencer found the man fully dressed. >> there is no way within some seconds you can put on some shoes and trousers and a shirt. >> we know that everyone grieves in different ways, and not everyone is hysterical. but, still, the investigators, they make a note of the fact that larry just doesn't seem to be acting like a man whose wife just shot herself to death.
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>> we didn't see that remorse in him to show that he was sorry. there was no saying i'm sorry, i have lost my wife. that softness in him was not there. >> spencer also said he couldn't stop thinking about something that larry rudolph told him outside the cabin just moments after the deadly shooting. >> he said, i want the body to be burned. >> so, in the minutes after his wife had shot herself or he claimed she shot herself -- ♪ ♪ >> despite all the suspicions, protocol is followed. bianca's body is transported to the capital city of lusaka, and she is placed at a local funeral home. >> now, larry contacts the american embassy in lusaka, and right away he tells the consular chief that he needs to have the body cremated immediately.
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>> something was amiss. something was fishy to our consular officer's eye. >> i need to cremate her immediately seems to be the only thing that he really kept repeating. >> we cannot issue a death certificate overseas without identifying the person. so he would have gone to the funeral home, identified her. >> the member of the u.s. embassy goes to see bianca's body and takes pictures. >> and there's something about the pattern and size of the buckshot on bianca's body that just doesn't sit right with the consular chief. >> the consular officer who responded to this death is a former marine. he indicated that the buckshot pattern from the shotgun, it indicated that the shotgu the victim, which would make it hard to be self-inflicted.
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>> the consular chief says that larry was absolutely livid that he had looked at the body and taken the pictures. but, still, the cremation will go on because the zambian authorities have ruled this officially an accident. >> they cleared dr. rudolph, all of them. and, by the way, the person who knows them the best, the professional hunting guide also says accident. everybody who saw larry rudolph there says accident. >> when the police took over the investigation, did you become surprised when they decided not to investigate it as a murder, not to detain him at all? >> what surprised me was that rudolph was not detained. then, then rudolph was cleared. so the police already had made up the investigation to say, no, this was an accident. >> i'm sure that the police went out, did what they did, but we don't know what was put in their ear while they were out there. but they did go out do an investigation and ruled it an accident. this doesn't look like it was an
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accident. the police would not be happy to be called failures. so even as i speak, i'm trying to figure out the best diplomatic word to use. how could a couple come to africa, come to zambia, and then a person loses their life here, just how? >> we reached out to the commanding officer on the case, who is now retired, but were unable to obtain a comment. at this point larry and bianca's ashes are leaving zambia and making their way back to the u.s. but larry is not going to be able to leave the suspicions behind. ♪ ♪ >> the day i heard of bianca's death, i was skeptical. i said i wonder how many life insurance policies he has on her. thinking the choices they make. like the shot they take. the memories they create. or the spin they initiate. otezla. it's a choice you can make. otezla is not a cream.
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a memorial service for bianca was held at a catholic retreat in scottsdale. >> i never thought that it was anything but an accident. it's just really sad. bianca was a sweetheart. she should still be here. >> when you heard that bianca rudolph had this accident in zambia in 2016, what was your first impression? >> i was skeptical that she was handling a firearm inappropriately, causing her death. >> immediately skeptical? >> yep, immediately. >> adding fuel to the flames of skepticism is the fact that shortly after the memorial, larry is seen with his mistress, lori milliron. >> for a while, larry was by himself, and then, eventually, you know, you see him and lori together again. >> after having lost the wife that you said you loved for 34 years, then meeting the mistress right after, it seems quick.
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>> i -- i get it. i get how it looks. it looks bad. but that's not evidence of murder. >> the day i heard of bianca's death, i was skeptical from the beginning, um, and in jest, i said, "i wonder how many life insurances policies he has on her?" >> in fact, it turns out there were nine separate life insurance policies in bianca's name. and soon after her death, larry cashes them all out to the tune of almost $5 million. >> that's a pretty significant amount of money. >> $5 million is a lot of money. but when you're worth over $15 million and living comfortably, you don't murder someone for $5 million. you just don't do that. >> he wasted no time to kind of shift to this post-bianca world in which lori moves in to the house that he shared with bianca. >> so we're driving through paradise valley, arizona, and
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for those of us who live here, we basically know this to be the beverly hills of the valley of the sun. the rudolphs owned a home here that had breathtaking views. when they purchased it, it was a little over $2 million. >> larry and lori have basically picked up with the life that they had before bianca died. ♪ ♪ they're jet setting around the globe. they're having a grand old time. cabo was one of their favorite places then, and it still is. >> the house we stayed in was $15,000 a week that larry paid for. it was like the "cribs" edition of mtv. it was amazing, with a jacuzzi, salt water infinity pool. >> while larry and lori are enjoying their jet setting lifestyle, martinis and sunny,
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sandy beaches, what they don't know is that the fbi is getting down to business investigating the events leading to bianca's death. >> according to an fbi affidavit, just weeks after bianca's death, the fbi office in south africa got a call from a woman who wanted the fbi to investigate the death of her friend bianca rudolph. now the friend said she suspected foul play because lawrence rudolph had been having an affair at the time of bianca's death. >> we had someone call in and say that none of the things that happened to bianca made sense. as in, like, she's catholic. she shouldn't have been cremated. she and larry were having a bunch of fights. they fought about money. all these red flags. >> former fbi agent jonny grusing worked in the fbi office in denver with the lead agent in the rudolph case. >> he wanted to bounce things off of me and let me know where he was, and he was on the right track. at that point, he was just still probing to see how he could prove that larry killed bianca.
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>> the fbi also received an unsolicited call from that former three rivers dental worker anna grimley. >> i decided to call the fbi on it. "i have some information about a dentist and, you know, his girlfriend that you may want to know." >> grimley told agents her account of how lori had allegedly given lawrence an ultimatum of one year to sell his dental offices and leave bianca. >> i go, "yeah, i know he did it." just putting all the pieces together, it's like he did it. >> in a case like this, to where you have a crime scene that lacked a bunch of robustness, i guess, is the best word, you have a lot of questions. >> in order for the fbi to figure out whether this was accident, suicide, murder, essentially they have to recreate the scenario, and they've got to get gun experts to help them.
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>> to test whether it was even possible for bianca to have shot herself, the fbi conducted a reach study using 15 female volunteers. we asked firearms expert peter diaczuk to demonstrate for us how the fbi conducted their tests. >> the reach test would, as the name implies, be how long is a person's arm? can their fingers reach the trigger with the barrel at a location that simulates the wound pattern? this is the same length barrel as the gun in the case. i'm not going to point this at my body, but my fingers simply don't reach as far as the trigger is. the 15 volunteers, none of them could reach the trigger while the gun was perpendicular to their body. that pretty much rules out a suicide. >> the fbi also investigated whether bianca could have been shot by accident while trying to pack up her gun, asking the test subjects to place the same type
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of shotgun in a similar bag and zip the bag closed. >> so here's the gun and the case. and i'm not gonna be ridiculous and try to the butt end first. i'm still gonna always use the skinny end of the gun, put it in the case. and then i close up the zipper, and i'm ready to travel. in the fbi bag test, none of the 15 volunteers pointed the gun at themselves. none of the volunteers struggled with getting the gun into the base. >> the fbi also conducted a series of test firings to determine how far the gun was away from bianca's body when it fired, based on the size of the wound on her body. >> the medical examiner, along with the fbi, said this gun had to be at least 2 1/2 feet away from her at the time. so now we're beyond her even being able to hold it. >> as the investigation picks up steam, what are larry rudolph and lori milliron doing?
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>> they are living their best life, right? >> larry and lori would come into the restaurant bar quite often. they were sitting at the corner of the bar, so they were facing themselves and me. >> could it be that a sudden outburst over martinis in a bar would turn out to be a major break in the case? >> you could hear a pin drop at that moment. >> and is there a clue in this photograph that will add fuel to the suspicions of larry's behavior? >> just another part of the story that didn't make sense to us. for people living with h-i-v, keep being you. and ask your doctor about biktarvy. biktarvy is a complete, one-pill, once-a-day treatment used for h-i-v in certain adults. it's not a cure, but with one small pill,
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♪ we heard the shotgun. we heard the voice of a woman who was screaming. >> we have a gunshot, a dead wife, her husband and a death that's labeled an accident. >> and so you ran up here. when you opened the doors, what did you see in there? >> i touched bianca, she was not breathing. and the shotgun was just near her foot. and the husband, larry rudolph, he was standing near to her body. cried "let me just kill myself because my wife, she has committed suicide." >> hold on. did he say it was suicide? or did he say it was an accident? >> maybe it was something else? >> i really do understand your
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fears about going to the dentist. >> a respected dentist on safari in zambia with a wife who wants to shoot her own big game. >> everybody who saw larry rudolph there says accident. >> and back in america, there's grief. >> it's just really sad. i never thought that it was anything but an accident. >> and there's a bartender, a pretty shocked bartender, who overheard something. >> the woman asked me, "did i hear what i thought i heard?" and i said, "yes, i believe we did." you could hear a pin drop at that moment. >> they don't have a case. they don't have the proof. >> i just want to tell you guys what i know. >> she should still be here! >> is there a clue in a photograph? >> i'm just hoping we all find out what really happened. i said this before, only larry knows. ♪
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being in kafue national park, you are visiting one of the places that everybody else in the world wants to come to. >> that's the beauty of this place, right? i mean we are truly in the wild. visiting zambia's famed hunting grounds at kafue in late september, 2016 was wealthy dentist larry rudolph and his wife bianca, who had a reputation as an expert marksperson. bianca rudolph came from halfway across the world, here to africa, with the dream of hunting a leopard. she never got that leopard. >> in the early morning hours of october 11, 2016, bianca and larry are getting ready to leave zambia when suddenly, a shotgun blast rings out. >> i opened the door, so i-i went in, i found bianca.
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she was laying down here with a shotgun wounds on the chest laying in a pool of blood. and the husband uh, larry rudolph, he was standing near to her body. crying, "what am i going to tell my children? what am i going to tell my children? let me just kill myself because my wife, she has committed suicide." >> the scout says larry also told him the gun could've gone off by accident. at the time, the shooting raised a lot of questions from local investigators, but also the us embassy in zambia. >> larry almost immediately informs the us embassy that his wife had died from an accident, and that he's going to cremate her. and that sends some flags off at the us embassy because there's no reason for her to be cremated. >> the evidence and what our consular officer had witnessed pointed to this doesn't look
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like it was an accident. something was amiss, something was fishy to our consular officer's eye. >> despite those concerns, the death is ruled an accident and larry returns with bianca's remains to their home in a suburb of phoenix. >> but that doesn't end the suspicion, because shortly after that, larry has cashed out nine separate life insurance policies taken out in bianca's name. and he's got nearly $5 million dollars. >> in dentistry, o yeah, it was big topic. charts when larry's longtime mistress, lori milliron, moves into the rudolph's home in the paradise valley neighborhood. despite the fact that lori is living in this beautiful home,
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it is the marital home, and she wants her own place. >> eventually they buy this multi-million dollar lot and they build this huge mansion and it kind of seems like they started this whole new life. >> that house sits on an exclusive lot. the higher up it is on the mountain, the better the views, the more expensive it is. so, i can just imagine that the sunset, you know, cocktails in the pool with that million-dollar view. >> they're just living their lives. and yeah, i guess as a couple they would go to restaurants together and people would know them or see them as a couple might assume that they were -- been married long term. >> one of larry and lori's regular haunts is an upscale restaurant in scottsdale named steak 44. and in an exclusive interview with 20/20, bartender brian lovelace told us how he had become friendly with the couple during their frequent visits to the restaurant's back room bar.
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>> my impression of larry and lori's relationship was that they were married. happily married couple. lori was very quiet, she didn't speak very much. she was very pleasant and nice. and larry was the one who always controlled the conversation, he took the room, he was very outgoing. >> in early 2020, lovelace says larry and lori are back at steak 44 for one of their regular visits. >> just typical, normal evening. they were in a great mood. larry shook my hand and gave me a hug like he always does. got them their martinis, get them started. >> lovelace says he noticed that in the beginning everything seems fine. the couple is smiling and having a good time, but he says as the evening progressed things became increasingly tense between larry and lori. >> they were having an argument. he was very close to her face trying to not be as loud, and at that moment, he just blurted out
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that phrase and he's pointing his finger and said, "i killed my -- wife for you." >> and the reason lovelace says he was so sure of what he heard in the restaurant was that the music had just stopped when those words were blurted out. >> you could hear a pin drop at that moment. there's no doubt in my mind that he said it. the context, i don't know, but it couldn't have been clearer. it's the clearest thing i've heard. it was crystal clear. hearing that phrase was single-handedly the most shocking thing i've ever heard in my life. >> having covered so many murder cases, this is a scene, right? the music stops, and the incriminating words suddenly fly out of his mouth. you can't script that. >> lori was obviously and clearly upset and embarrassed i believe from the conversation.
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she turned a little bit red and she grabbed her purse and she walked out. and he just apologized again and he went after lori. i turned to the guests that were sitting right next to them, the woman asked me, "did i hear what i thought i heard?" and i said, "yes, i believe we did." she said, "why would someone say that?" and i responded, "i have no idea. what could that possibly be about?" >> now, despite this surreal incident, larry and lori just keep living their lives, just moving along, having no idea that the fbi is deeply entrenched in an investigation into bianca's death. >> what you have to do in a case like this is take your time. to get all the pieces to this puzzle together, it's gonna take a while. >> in the five years since bianca's death, the fbi had gathered a lot of details about larry and lori's long-time love affair.
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as well as the huge windfall larry had made on those life insurance policies. now the fbi had also conducted forensic tests to determine whether the shooting was a suicide, accident or a homicide. >> the fbi turns all of its results over to a medical examiner, and he looks at all the material, and comes to the conclusion that bianca rudolph did not accidentally kill herself. at the end of the day, the fbi concluded that they had probable cause that larry murdered his wife with this gun in this remote zambian camp. >> in december of 2021, lori and larry are traveling back to their favorite hotspot of cabo, and they have no idea what's waiting on the ground. >> flew down, when they got down there and then they landed, they look out and then she sees mexican police on the tarmac. >> could it be that the hunter
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>> in december 2021, larry rudolph and lori milliron are headed to cabo for christmas. >> they have been planning a trip to cabo, where they have a condo. flew down, when they got down there and then they landed, they look out and then she sees mexican police on the tarmac. >> larry is detained by mexican authorities and brought back to the u.s. specifically to denver, where he is arrested for murder and mail fraud. >> the reason why larry was in denver is because of one insurance payout that was from denver. it's breaking news in pittsburgh. >> a dentist is accused of murdering his wife to collect
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life insurance money. lawrence rudolph operates the greensburg-based three rivers dental group. >> when i heard that rudolph was arrested for bianca's death, my first reaction was "it's about time." >> my colleague just called me and said, "remember that incident where that lady was shot accidental?" i said, "yes." he said, "yes, can you read this story?" >> i was shocked. shocked and not so shocked. i mean, just both, you know. because i never wanted this to be true. >> after larry's charged, his case goes before a grand jury to get indicted. lori actually gets called to testify about their the charges against him and their relationship. >> she was served with a subpoena like they served all the other subpoenas. >> so she goes in and testifies. >> the whole target was larry, and i believe that's why the
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u.s. attorney brought her before the grand jury to give her a chance to come and tell her side of the story. >> hours after lori's testimony the grand jury makes it official, indicting larry for murder and mail fraud. >> the word is starting to spread. the bartender, brian lovelace, goes to his chatroom and finds a link. >> and our group text kind of exploded with everyone pressuring me to go to the authorities on what i had heard two years prior. >> in short order, a call was made, but not by brian lovelace. >> one of my fellow bartenders did decide to go to the fbi. the fbi found that it was interesting enough that they wanted to speak to me. >> when the federal government hears brian lovelace's story, well, that puts lori milliron's testimony in a whole different
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light. >> of course the fbi was all over it. they're saying that, "she knows about a murder and she's gone in now and intentionally lying." >> she then became an absolute target and they sought to indict her. >> correct. >> and it was obvious that she lied? >> yes. in reading through the transcript, i saw some of the questions by one of the jurors who just grilled her and that normally doesn't happen in a grand jury. >> prosecutors now argue lori knew from at least the time of that conversation at steak 44 that larry had killed bianca, and had lied to and intentionally misled the grand jury to prevent larry's indictment. >> she had no intent to go in there and lie. this wasn't a scheme to go in there and try to throw the government off the scent. he's sitting in jail. he's already been arrested. >> but the grand jury agrees with investigators, and a month after she testified in front of them, they indict lori too. >> the girlfriend of the
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greensburg dentist accused of murdering his wife on an african safari is now facing charges. >> lori is now indicted, five counts of perjury for lying to a grand jury. one count of obstruction of justice. and one count of accessory after the fact. >> and while the government denied bond for larry rudolph because he was considered a flight risk, lori milliron is released on house arrest and is required to wear an ankle monitor. >> two hours a week, she can go shop and check mail. can't go out of town. can't leave her condo. >> for both larry rudolph and lori milliron, a clock is now ticking as they approach trial. prosecutors are doing everything they can to line up their arguments. and it's at this point that one more call comes in. >> i said, "i just want to tell you guys what i know."
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>> rachel anders told the fbi about a conversation between larry and lori that she said she'd overheard years before. >> lori was the one that started the conversation. she actually said he needed to leave his wife. and larry said she'd be better off dead than alive to me because he was cheating on her and he would lose millions. >> lori's attorney challenged rachel's recollection of events, suggesting her struggle with alcoholism could have affected her memory. now, prosecutors add rachel to a lengthy list of witnesses they might call at trial. but it's not clear to anyone at this point that they actually have a case that can win. >> it's an aggressive case where you have no eyewitnesses, ruled as an accident overseas. you have a lot of hurdles to get over. >> they don't have a case. they don't have the proof. >> there's no gunshot residue.
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>> it's been six long years trying to put this puzzle together, as to how bianca rudolph really died. and now, a denver courthouse is center stage. and the government has decided to make a federal case out of this one. >> now typically, we don't see first-degree murder cases in federal court. if a u.s. citizen is accused of killing another u.s. citizen abroad, the united states has jurisdiction if that foreign country does not prosecute. and so that's a very rarely used statute, it's very unique. >> facing trial alongside dr. larry rudolph is his longtime flame, lori milliron. >> lori is a defendant in the case. she's been indicted for perjury in front of the grand jury and obstruction. >> one of the things that i was most surprised about were that prosecutors were able to
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successfully try both larry and lori together in the same courtroom. that's extremely rare. rudolph has the full support of his children. his daughter ana bianca and his son julian have flown in for the trial, and they are in court every day. >> along with being a very wealthy dentist, comes the means to hire very high profile lawyers. and that's exactly what larry rudolph has done with his dream team, which includes david markus, a very well-known miami attorney. >> the government wants this case to be about affairs. they want it to be anything they can find to distract. there has to be proof that he did it. i'm still waiting to hear proof that he pulled the trigger. >> i don't think the government has to prove that he pulled the trigger. they just have to convince the jury beyond a reasonable doubt that he did.
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>> that he did. >> it felt a little bit like david and goliath. the defense attorneys, particularly larry's attorneys, were definitely the giants. >> in his opening statements, david markus is very clear to the jury, "my client is innocent." and he says, "the government is choosing speculation over science, fiction over fact." >> he also points out that police in zambia investigated this and they ruled the shooting accidental, as did the insurance companies. >> insurance companies, as we know, don't like to pay. they don't wanna pay claims, they do anything they can not to pay claims. and what do they say? "gotta pay. accident." >> i was in court every day and i watched for david markus laid ot this really unique marital arrangement between larry and bianca. that bianca had two affairs early on in the marriage and how she and larry had this sort of understanding about seeing other
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people. as for those suspicions that larry had bianca's remains cremated against her wishes, markus says that was specified in her will. >> in his opening statement, prosecutor justin bishop grewell tells the jurors that larry, the avid hunter, had guns and he knew how to use them. now, the motive is the millions larry stood to benefit from bianca's life insurance and the chance to live openly with his mistress. >> larry's a smart man, a good businessperson, so why would he do this? >> even past the opening arguments. i thought larry was innocent. i really thought an accident took place in africa 'cause accidents do happen. >> i was thinking, "okay, he's got to be innocent." >> some could argue that the prosecution doesn't have a lot
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to work with. remember, there are no fingerprints, there's no dna, no one tested for residue on his hands. but here there's a potential for a very strong circumstantial case. >> to help make their case the prosecution takes the jurors through the ballistics tests they conducted to back up their contention that the shooting could not have been an accident or a suicide. >> another tool that really helps build a very strong circumstantial case is witness testimony. in this case, anna grimley, she's a former employee of larry rudolph. she's the person who claims lori told her, "i gave larry an ultimatum." >> what i did say is that lori said that larry needed to get rid of her within the year and that she did say, "or i'll leave you." >> she denies giving an
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ultimatum. she had no reason to give an ultimatum. and she never did. that never happened. >> but the prosecution's star witness is of course, bartender brian lovelace. >> after getting to denver and going to the courthouse and walking down that street. it's a big, beautiful building and i'm walking alone and i've no idea what to expect. >> on the stand, brian lovelace repeated for the jury those fateful words he heard come out of larry rudolph's mouth when the music stopped. >> and it was a little nerve wracking because i've never testified for anything, let alone a federal court murder trial. it's kind of a big deal. >> i think the outburst at steak 44 was very eye-opening, and i
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think they were arguing and larry being larry, not liking what the conversation was going, was getting upset and blurted that out. >> but the real bombshell came when the defense announced its own star witness, dr. larry rudolph. >> the lawyers are rolling the dice, that this smooth talking, wealthy dentist seen on tv commercials would be able to talk his way out of a murder charge. >> at three rivers dental group we specialize in smile makeovers. >> everybody was just on pins and needles on the edge of their seats. you know, cancer, chemo, covid, that kind of away. certainly missed my family, being with them, and i missed my friends, making movies. ♪♪
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nothing is striking the jury, nothing is hitting home with them. >> and then, brian lovelace takes the stand. >> he just blurted out that phrase, "i killed my wife for you." >> i felt that was very important because he did say i heard that with my own ears. >> the defense counters brian lovelace's testimony, saying there weren't seven relevant words said in that fateful outburst, there were nine. >> it's not that brian lovelace misheard. it's that he didn't hear the whole conversation. he only heard from when the music cut off. so larry said, "they're saying i killed my wife for you." >> when markus asks lovelace if he'd be surprised to hear that larry rudolph killed his wife lovelace said "yeah," he'd be very surprised. >> i thought he was good for us. he said he didn't hear the whole
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conversation. he said he didn't think larry did it. >> i might know only a small scope of larry and he could be anything outside of steak 44 and i wouldn't know, but that's not for me to speculate. >> brian lovelace was the prosecution's final witness. after he testified, the government rested its case. >> the defense is ready to call its witnesses. a very important one is firearms expert luke haag. >> as to the choices between suicide, a gun problem, mishandling of the gun by her husband or a homicide, the only one of those four i was ever able to exclude was self-inflicted, was suicide. >> haag's testimony left the door open to the very thing the zambian police had already concluded, an accidental discharge. >> you know, the marshals were telling us, you know, "you guys are winning." and so, you know, each day we heard that. and we would go back to the hotel, all of us, and thought, "man, we just won another day of
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trial. >> the defense is basking in all of these good vibes. we're doing great. we're gonna win this case. but then they make a potentially risky decision, and that's to bring larry rudolph, the defendant, to the stand. >> larry wanted to testify. >> larry wanted to testify. he told us from day one that he had nothing to hide. >> he sat tall, looked straight at the jury and told them, "in no uncertain terms, i did not kill my wife. not for the money, not for any woman." woman." he choked up. he looked at his kids and he said, "i'm sorry you've had to go through this." he cried. >> when he started crying, i actually wrote in my notebook, "he's crying but there's no tears." >> the problem with putting your client on the stand is that the other side gets their crack at him. >> as soon as the government was questioning him, i felt him shift, his personality really shift to, now i'm nervous. and before he was very confident. >> remember how back in
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2012 larry sued safari club international and some of its board members for defamation? well, in this trial rudolph had to admit he lied under oath about not being an adulterer during depositions for that lawsuit. and it's a detail that is not lost on the jury. >> just sitting up there and telling us he lied on that deposition of his own lawsuit, mind blowing. >> i now looked at him as a liar. and everything that came out of larry's mouth would be a lie from that point forward. >> on the stand larry would also reveal that about two years after bianca's death he found the shotgun involved in the shooting inside his garage. he would also tell the jury that he dismantled the gun and then had a trash removal service haul it away. >> and then the very guy who brags about his prowess as a hunter says, "well, you know,
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i'm not a gun guy." not so good for the defense. >> he's a professional hunter, he uses guns all the time. anybody with any common sense does not throw away a gun no matter what. >> he paid $100 in cash. in my mind, i'm thinking, why would you pay cash? well, maybe it's because you don't want a trail to lead people to the guy who took the gun away. >> rudolph also testified that he was in the bathroom when he heard the shot and frantically rushed to bianca's side. jurors see larry after the shooting, where a photo depicts him as understandably distraught yet curiously neatly dressed in a tucked in shirt. >> that picture was taken 45 minutes later, after, after the, uh, people had come into the room. so, you know, the whole shirt being tucked in, i think, was a throwaway argument from the government, and they scored.
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they threw a bunch of stuff against the wall, and that one stuck. >> on the stand, you didn't know exactly what you would get from larry rudolph. you know, on one hand it could be articulate, sharp, you know, to the point, self-assured. on the other hand, he was foggy, vague, couldn't really get an answer out of him. >> he's a smart man, he's a doctor. and so for him to recall things in details but not other things, i think that really stood out to us. >> we know that the prosecution's case lacked that cold, hard direct evidence. so everything turned into a referendum on larry's character. what kind of guy is this? what will the jury be thinking when they get the case? >> when we started deliberating it was definitely not unanimous one way or the other. >> waiting for the decision for the jury. it's almost like you have this weight on your back and you can't breathe. there it is.
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friday afternoons with a verdict because they just wanna go home. not this jury. >> monday morning attorneys walked into a quiet denver courthouse to pace the hallways and to wait. >> every trial, whether you win or lose, takes years off of your life. >> the amount of time that the jury is out, there's all sorts of things that go through your head. "are they considering this? are they looking at this? you know, what -- what's going on in the jury room?" >> when we started deliberating, we -- we took a vote, and it was definitely not unanimous one way or the other. >> i think there were two not guilties, six guilties, and the rest were undecided. i was actually, i won't say undecided, but i was still processing information. >> inside the jury room, the twelve jurors waded through a mountain of exhibits and witness testimony. >> you can call it an accident scene. you can call it a murder scene, but we, at the end of the day,
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have to figure out how the trigger got pulled and by whom. >> coming back on monday, people had calmed down and time to process what we really saw. >> then, after 13 hours of deliberation, at 4:24 monday afternoon, a verdict. >> i took a minute, and i said, "does everybody okay with this, does everyone agree with this. are we 100 percent sure?" >> it felt very tense, for myself and for all the jurors. none of us were looking forward to that part of it all. >> larry, before the verdict came in, and this is unique among, um, defendants, he turned to us and said, "thank you for fighting for me. no matter what happens, you gave us the best defense." >> waiting for the decision for the jury, it's almost like you have this weight on your back, and you can't breathe. and you're waiting to hear from these 12 people whether you can let that breath out or whether you just have to choke it down?
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>> there was an entire row of reporters, of course, but a lot of the family had gone home. >> lori milliron's sitting there with no emotion. larry rudolph's not showing emotion. really david markus looked very, very nervous. >> when the jury says they have a verdict and when you're waiting for what seems like centuries to come back in, it rips you up inside. and they are like soldiers. they don't look at anyone but the judge. >> when i signed the verdict sheet and gave it to the bailiff to give to the judge. the room was completely silent, and nobody wanted to say anything. >> a former greensburg dentist has been found guilty of killing his wife on an african safari. >> on august first, larry rudolph is found guilty of murdering his wife and of mail fraud for bilking insurance companies out of millions of dollars. >> larry rudolph is found guilty of murdering his wife and of mail fraud and bilking insurance companies out of $4.8 million in her death. >> when you hear the -- the words, i mean, it's just like a
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hammer. >> it was paralyzing. i couldn't even look, turn my head and look at larry. um, i heard him kind of let out a gasp. um, and this wasn't just, you know, the fate of a client. uh, this was a -- the fate of a friend. >> today a jury in federal court found lawrence rudolph guilty of murdering his wife, bianca rudolph, and of defrauding multiple life insurance companies. this case was an exceptional example of the entire united states attorney's office pulling together with our law enforcement partners to uncover the truth and seek justice for a victim who had no other voice. >> well, this is a very, very difficult moment for us. and margot, lauren and i have fought really, really hard, and we're disappointed, really, really disappointed in the verdict. >> for the jurors, there were several key moments that turned the tide. too many stars had to line up for this to be just an accident. >> larry was in the cabin, there was no way that gun was
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discharged by bianca, and there is no way that gun discharged accidentally. >> i think the outburst at steak 44 was very eye-opening. >> nobody sits around and just makes a remark like that. >> that neatly tucked in shirt didn't quite fit the story of someone panicked, getting off of the toilet and running to the aid of his injured wife. >> if he truly were in a hurry and he truly hopped up to ran to her aid, how are you so put together? i think that when larry testified, he hurt himself. a couple of people on the jury said before he testified, they were so unsure. then when he did testify, he did really change their minds into thinking he was guilty. >> a lot of this was circumstantial, um, until larry got onto the stand and larry started talking. >> larry was larry's downfall.
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imagining looking at the mother of my two children and pulling a shotgun on them and killing them, that to me was one of the hardest thing to understand and get past, that someone was actually capable of doing that. that's a certain kind of evil, to kill the mother of your children. >> finally, it's time for lori milliron and larry rudolph to part. so he stands up, she's sitting down, she looks at him, and he's going out with the u.s. marshals, and right before he goes out the door, he looks at her, and he gives her the only signal he's given in the entire trial. it was a goodbye wave. >> and with that goodbye wave, the looming question, the fate of lori milliron.
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prosecutors describe as a premeditated crime. >> larry's case dominated the trial. at times, lori just seemed to disappear. lori milliron was on trial, but it was easy to confuse lori with the slew of attorneys who were sitting there. she didn't wear an ankle monitor and left every day because she was out on bond. >> i didn't see a lot of emotion or movement out of lori. she just pretty much sat there every day and looked straight ahead and didn't really look around much. >> at the end of it, the jury found that lori was guilty of accessory after the fact, obstruction, and two counts of the five perjury counts against her. >> i think she was incredibly shocked. she looked at the table, and she was shaking her head no. >> the jury did not convict her on the perjury charges that were tied to anna grimley's story,
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that lori had given him a one-year ultimatum to get rid of bianca. >> they wanted to toss that out. that's fine, it didn't mean anything, the rest of it does. the whole story does. so, i'm fine, i know my truth, she knows the truth. lori milliron is allowed out on bond pending her sentencing. she faces up to 35 years in prison. >> after larry was convicted, my thought was, he's where he belongs. he shouldn't be on the streets. he would do whatever he can to benefit himself. >> i thought about bianca, and i thought about her family. it was just this relieve of, like, oh, my gosh, they listened to us, they heard us for her. this is someone's mom and they miss her. she should still be here.
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>> i believe that without the fbi's investigation, larry rudolph would've gotten away with the murder of his wife. >> you have a backdrop of one of the most beautiful places on earth that most of us will never get to in our life. and you think that someone could calculate killing their wife in such an exotic place. this man had means, motive, and opportunity. he had a plan and he got away with it, for a while. >> for a while. now justice is done. >> we should note tonight that larry rudolph is scheduled to be sentenced next february. he's facing a maximum penalty of life in prison for that murder charge. >> rudolph's attorney says he plans to appeal the conviction. and that is our program for tonight. thanks for watching. >> from all of us here at "20/20" and abc news, good
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