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♪ this is "nightline." >> tonight, chilling moments. never-before-seen video of speaker pelosi as the capitol was being stormed. >> we have got to finish proceedings. >> fleeing the capitol hill rioters. >> usa! >> the january 6th committee making their closing arguments to the nation and voting unanimously to subpoena former president trump. plus 25 years later, before columbine, newtown, parkland, and uvalde. it happened in paducah, kentucky. we return to the site of one of the nation's first school shootings. >> i heard what was i thought books dropping. >> pow! pow!
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>> a community still reeling and trying to heal. the shooter up for parole. >> michael sentenced me to life in a wheelchair. >> will he go free? released from russia. the two newly freed american veterans captured in ukraine, speaking in their first television interview. >> how quickly did it go wrong? >> real quickly, yeah. >> the horror they say they endured in russian captivity. >> we prayed for death. we just wanted to die. >> the wounds still visible as they think of those still being held. >> there is a slight amount of guilt. try vicks nyquil seve. just one dose starts to relieve 9 of your worst cold and flu symptoms, to help take you from 9 to none. for max strength nighttime relief, nyquil severe: ♪♪ age is just a number. and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health.
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♪ thanks for joining us. tonight, the january 6th committee in what is likely their final hearing unpacking the chaos and the fear from that day with never-before-seen footage from inside the capitol as it was under siege. speaker pelosi huddled, trying to regain control and certify the presidential election. >> i'm trying to get more information. >> they're putting on their tear gas masks. >> do you believe this? >> the harrowing moments captured by speaker nancy pelosi's daughter, who's a documentary filmmaker, as congress fled the mob of donald
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trump supporters attacking the capitol. >> we have got to finish the proceedings. >> usa! usa! >> there has to be some way we can maintain the sense that people have that there is some security or some confidence that government can function. >> vice president mike pence updating the leaders of the house and senate on efforts to secure the capitol. >> we'll inform you that their best information is that they believe that the house and the senate will be able to reconvene in roughly an hour. >> good news. >> and the hearing ending with a surprise unanimous vote to subpoena president trump to testify under oath, as so many of his advisers have already done. vice chair liz cheney telling
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the nation why they must hear from the former president. >> we are obligated to seek who set this all in motion.an - >> trump responding on his truth social platform in part by asking why the committee didn't subpoena him sooner. we turn now to florida and a tense and emotional day for the families of the victims of the parkland shooter, nikolas cruz. loved ones reacting to the jury's decision to spare his life, sentencing him to life in prison without the possibility of parole. it's been more than four years since he stalked the halls of marjory stoneman high school, killing 14 students, three adults. the shooter displayed little emotion today, but many of the families were visibly shaken, walking out as the jury read the verdict. long before parkland, the small town of paducah, kentucky, was the scene of one of the nation's first school shootings 25 years ago. we're there as the community
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grapples with the possibility of that gunman being paroled which would make him the first school shooter to be released. here's abc's ashan singh. >> help me with the back of it. >> yeah. >> reporter: when they were in the tenth grade, missy jenkins smith and best friend kelly hardsip's lives changed forever. >> it's a struggle in the morning. i feel like my body's ready to go, that's when i finally get myself start getting dressed. i also have to cath, i have to do that first. >> reporter: they're some of the first survivors of what would become an american epidemic. back in 1997, before columbine, newtown, parkland, and uvalde, what happend to missy and other students at heath high school was unthinkable. >> this is such a serious situation that changed my life forever. and others that i love. >> the parole hearing and their
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decision is going to be another part of that struggle. >> reporter: missy is speaking to the kentucky parole board, who will soon decide whether the gunman, michael carneal, will become the first school shooter ever to be released on parole. >> thank you for joining us today in the matter of michael carneal, inmate 151127. >> reporter: carneal's bullets killed nicole hadley, jessica james, kayce steger, and injured missy and four others. >> today is our victims hearing. i know that it has been difficult to relive this experience. >> michael sentenced me to life in a wheelchair. i know you'll hear a lot of testimony today regarding what michael did to us and our close-knit community. i could speak for hours about what my life has been like every minute of every day for the last
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quarter century without the use of my legs. on december the 1st, 1997, michael carneal shot and killed three of my friends and injured five. >> 911, what is your emergency? >> we have -- i think gunfire. this is barbara mcginty. >> okay, where's the shots -- >> heath high school. >> i heard what was, i thought, books dropping. >> the noise sounded like fire crackers. >> i'm sitting in my office. and i hear pow! pow! one of my own students had a pistol in his hand, and kids running, and he was shooting and they were falling. everyone else was running, and i was just moving slow, steady, forward. so it didn't panic him. and all of a sudden, he just
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looks at the pistol and just lays it down. and all he said was, "i'm sorry." and i wasn't in a forgiving mood. all i said was, "shut up." and that was all i said to him was, "shut up. sit down." three kids killed. five shot. a total of 12 seconds. >> these were actual students, these were beautiful teenage girls that are no longer with us. >> they don't want the world to forget about nicole. she had a tender, kind heart. >> jessica was the baby. if you ask the two of us, probably the most spoiled, she was the bookend. at the same time, super sweet kid. always happy.
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>> almost 25 years later, i'm still hearing stories of kayce's acts of kindness. she was an amazing girl. i was lucky to be her mama. >> reporter: michael carneal pled guilty to the shootings and was sentenced to life in prison. but after 25 years could walk free. >> mr. carneal, you are currently serving a life sentence for murder. were voices telling you to do something on december the 1st, 1997? >> yes, ma'am. >> and what did they tell you to do? >> take out the gun out of the backpack. and hold it in front of me and shoot. it was -- it's not -- there's no justification or excuse for what i did. i'm offering an explanation.
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>> so as we fast forward from that day till today, are you still having -- hearing voices that tell you to do things? >> yes, ma'am. >> mr. carneal, when was the last time that you heard one of these voices that told you to do something harmful? >> couple of days ago. >> is there anything else that you wish to share with the board? >> i would like to say to you and to the victims and the victims' friends and families and the whole community that i'm sorry for what i did. i know it's not going to change anything. it's not going to make anything better. but i want them to know that i am sorry for what i did. >> mr. carneal, due to the seriousness of your crime, your crime involved a weapon, you had
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lives taken, and the seriousness, again, it is the decision of the parole board today to allow you to serve out the remainder of your sentence. thank you, sir. >> yes, ma'am. >> that's great. >> that's amazing. should we cheer? clap for her? yay! >> carneal will have to serve out his life sentence with no more chances to seek parole. >> i'm very grateful for it but still very lost on how to feel, how to react to it. >> reporter: a community forever changed by that tragic day. and within it, a harrowing harbinger for the plight to come over the next 25 years. for the people of paducah, healing may come slowly, one day at a time. >> the community healing as a whole -- i don't think it happened. it will always live inside us. we live.
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we thrive. but it never leaves. >> our thanks to ashan. for for much more on how the community is dealing with the shooting, stream the full episode of "impact" by "nightline" on hulu. new episodes drop every thursday. up next, released from russia. our interview with two american veterans held captive by russian-backed forces while fighting for ukraine. in my ozempic® tri-zone, i lowered my a1c, cv risk, and lost some weight. announcer: ozempic® provides powerful a1c reduction. in studies, the majority of people reached an a1c under 7 and maintained it. ozempic® lowers the risk of major cardiovascular events such as stroke, heart attack, or death in adults also with known heart disease.
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two american veterans captured and held hostage for more than three months by russian forces after going into ukraine to fight. they share details of their terrifying ordeal. why do they feel guilty about being freed? here's abc's whit johnson. >> there were a lot of times that i would think, you know, i am going to die. >> reporter: their capture made worldwide headlines. >> two american veterans missing in ukraine. >> captured by the russians. >> reporter: andy huynh, former army veteeran, taken into russian custody while volunteering in the fight in ukraine. tonight, inside their harrowing 105 days in captivity. >> my mission was to keep andy alive, andy's mission was to keep me alive. >> reporter: the torture they say they experienced. >> what was it like hearing your friend screaming in pain? >> i mean, it's awful. because i knew he was in pain.
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but at least i knew he was alive. you know, it's good and bad at the same time. >> just those little moments? >> yeah. >> just to recognize each other's presence? >> right. >> yep. >> gave you a little bit of strength? >> little sparks of hope. >> reporter: after seeing images of innocent ukrainians fleeing their homes, they say they felt called to serve. despite the risks and repeated warnings. >> you're a marine. but in this case, you were prepared to give your life for another country. >> my life didn't really -- wasn't important, just prevent world war iii. >> did it give you pause? that the state department, the president himself, said, don't go? >> yeah. i definitely researched it. the u.s. government will not be backing me up on this, and i was aware of that. i was 100% aware of that. scared me. i still knew i had to go. >> reporter: andy and alex were living in alabama but didn't know each other before meeting overseas in april. their first mission in the spring would be their last. >> how quickly did it go wrong? >> real quick. >> what should have been a simple recon mission wasn't a
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simple recon mission. >> we did manage to evade the enemy trying to make our way back home on foot for about eight hours. working our way through thick woods. >> we had to worry about drones, land mines, trip wires. >> then you were captured? >> when we surrendered, they stripped us of equipment, put us on our knees, bags on our heads, bound our hands. we were sure they were going to execute us. >> when those moments occurred, who were you thinking about? >> my first thought was my fiancee. a split-second right after is like, oh, i'm going to die. >> reporter: they're taken behind enemy lines. this photo posted online by a known russian propagandist shows the two men on that journey in the back of a military truck. >> a couple times, we physically got beat and said "welcome to russia." that was kind of the telltale sign we were in russia. >> the first night, they made us stand up in one position for about 18 hours. >> sometimes they would beat you to beat you. >> they cracked four of my ribs
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for no reason. >> at one point you guys were moved to what was called a black site. >> we call it the black site because it's a place that doesn't exist, because things happen there that shouldn't happen. that's where the real interrogation and torture actually happened. >> these are all from that final ride -- the freedom ride. >> reporter: some of their injuries still visible today. bruises on wrists from tight bindings. andy's back covered in scars from relentless bedbugs. they say their captors gave them electric shocks during interrogations. >> it's not just physical torture. there was a lot of mental torture. i mean, we were sleep-deprived. we were purposefully dehydrated. we were put in a lot of stress positions that honestly some of those are worse than the punches. >> how did your physical condition start to deteriorate? >> we lost about 30 pounds each. >> they gave me my one bread, water that looked like it had fecal matter in it. >> when they were interrogating you, what kind of information did they want?
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>> a lot of it was verification. they swore up and down that we were cia, secret, covert government operatives. >> reporter: in june, the two men eventually appearing on russian television, delivering pro-russian propaganda messages they say were filmed under duress. >> what were some of the things you were forced to say? >> how great russia is, how great putin is. >> did they tell you what could happen to you if you didn't follow the script? >> rape, murder, kill you, cut off fingers. >> reporter: abc news reached out to the russian embassy for comment. they did not respond. back in the u.s., alex's mother and andy's fiancee making public pleas for their safe return. >>know with everybody working on it, we're going to get them home. >> reporter: not knowing at the time that the saudi government was quietly arranging a prisoner swap between ukraine and russia. finally, alex and andy were told they'd be freed. but say those last hours of captivity were the most trying. >> they took packing tape and tightly wrapped that around our
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eyes. then stacked us, locked us together in the back of a military truck. >> how unbearable was it? >> we prayed for death. we just wanted to die. we just wanted it to end. >> you prayed for death in this moment? >> in my head, even though i was -- even if it is an exchange, i don't care, this just has to stop. >> reporter: their flight to freedom landing in riyadh on september 21st, before they headed back home to the u.s. >> i didn't fully believe that i was getting released until a u.s. embassy representative said, "this is real, brother, you are being exchanged, this is real, you are safe." >> you have no regrets? >> no regrets. >> i know the circumstances are different, but do you feel any guilt that the two of you were able to come back to the united states but people like brittney griner and paul whelan are still there in custody? >> yeah, there is a slight amount of guilt that i got set free, and i know they're still there. like, there are a lot of people still in russian captivity and
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no one should ever have to live in the kind of conditions that they're living in. >> would you go back? >> yes. >> you would? >> yeah. i think i'd go back in a slightly different capacity. i would go back for rebuilding after the war. >> for me, i know my fiancee, my family, like her family, they all say no. >> you've got obligations here at home? >> yeah, i have obligations at home that i need to focus on. >> our thanks to whit. we'll be right back. it disrupts my skin with itch. it disrupts my skin with rash. but now, i can disrupt eczema with rinvoq. rinvoq is not a steroid, topical, or injection. it's one pill, once a day, that's effective without topical steroids. many taking rinvoq saw clear or almost-clear skin while some saw up to 100% clear skin. plus, they felt fast itch relief some as early as 1 week. that's rinvoq relief. rinvoq can lower your ability to fight infections,
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