>> building a better bay area, moving forward, finding solutions, this is abc 7 news. kristen: hi, you're watching "getting answers." we get answers for you in real time. we are just two weeks away now from election day. one person looking for your boat is the republican candidate for state controller in california. we will hear about his platform before we welcome his challenger later this week. also, two vintage clothing dealers right here in california have a pair of levi's for $76,000. will explain why the genes may also highlight a racist legacy.

but first, did you feel it? a 5.1 magnitude earthquake shook the south bay today. this map shows the epicenter, south of san jose. the quake hit at 11:42 this morning and there have been a few aftershocks. let's get the latest from mike. mike: that was interesting, and thankfully because of the location, damage has been minimal so far. we will talk more about that. we will show you all the fault lines around the bay area and this one was just to the east of the santa clara valley ball. there is plenty of orange and red and those are several of the aftershocks. we had the main one at 11:42, and now we've just had another one. this little dot right there was another one just a few moments

ago, 2.4. so we've had at least five aftershocks. let's talk about 5.1, it is a moderate earthquake with some property damage. i've heard of some crack's, even at the marina in san francisco, we had some wine bottles fall off restaurant shelves. so far that is the extent of the damage we've received. we have about a 2% chance of this being a for -- aeshock -- being a foreshock for another earthquake. there are a lot of small earthquakes from time to time like we are seeing with these aftershocks. most of these are magnitude three or less and there's about a 68-70% chance of those continuing over the next seven days. proximity and the fault line

make this 5.1 may be a little less than some other five-point ones if they were in a different part of the bay area. kristen: joining us is ross, founder of the fate -- quake risk assessment at. nice to have you back on. ross: lead to be talking with you a week after our last conversation. kristen: eight days later we have this one today, 5.1, not much damage compared to the napa quake which was 5.0. why? ross: napa was actually much bigger, it was almost 6.0. kristen: let's compare the energy, how much more energy was that compared to this? ross: about 750 times more. kristen: so that explains in

part while we're not seeing too much damage today, which is a good thing. last time you did say calaveras is one of our most lethal faults. what does today's quake show us? ross: what i had been explaining to you and the audience is that while we think were going through a decade of seismic sleep, the most seismically active fault in the bay area is the hayward and southern calaveras. these are faults that produce little earthquakes all the time. if you look at our long history that goes back to about 1836, we see some very large earthquakes on this fault as well. the magnitude 6.2 earthquake occurred in exactly the same spot that this one struck. so this is an active fault that could rupture in a very large earthquake, and this is one that we need to worry about. kristen: so 5.1 is, i don't want to say lucky, but when you say very large quake, what do you

mean, how big? ross: if the hayward fault connects to the southern calaveras, we will rupture all the way from richmond down to know peterson the south. that would be just to the east of the most heavily populated parts of the bay area. so that is something that is a truly troubling possibility out there. kristen: to put you on the spot in terms of the math, if it were seven point five, how many more times is that per energy --? ross: it's about 20 times larger, it is significantly larger. more important than that is that the hayward and southern calaveras faults are so much closer in population, and that is the determining factor that really counts in terms of our preparation. this quake, all it means is that

it is a further reminder that the calaveras fault is active, that it produces small to moderate earthquakes frequently, which means that occasionally it will be able to produce a larger one. kristen: if this calaveras fault creeps, isn't that a good thing because it means it is constantly relieving stress? ross: that's a great question. the short answer is yes, if it only creeped, that would be great. there is a section that only creeps as we know it and has done that for 10,000 years. however, this is kind of our ac/dc fault. it produces earthquakes and partial creep, but new research shows that even these creeping faults can rip through in big earthquakes. so despite the fact that it is good news, we have to be vigilant for the possibility of

very large earthquakes. kristen: let's talk about aftershocks. so far there haven't been that many and they have been pretty fall. can we expect them to keep decreasing in magnitude from this point on from today? ross: actually, they don't decrease in magnitude, they decrease in frequency. the weird behavior of aftershocks is the largest magnitude you will get the first day is about the same as the magnitude you're likely to get in the next 10 days in the next 100 days, etc. so the magnitude doesn't increase, but aftershocks become more and more spaced out in time until they melt into the background, which could take years. so this earthquake will be with us, it does raise a check -- raise the chance of a larger earthquake. that chance is very small, but it is higher today than it was yesterday. kristen: you mean if it turned out to be a foreshock?

ross: there is always some chance that it could turn out to be a foreshock. we can't tell a foreshock apart from any other shock. but we can tell statistically a shock turns out to be followed by an aftershock that is larger than the main shock. it just means that we are always rolling the dice. kristen: mother earth keeps us guessing, that's for sure. as we showed the shaking from a lot of cameras that people have, i see people sing in the santa cruz valley that they got 5-7 seconds notice and that was enough for them to duck and take cover. checking with my colleagues, we didn't really get an alert. i'm wondering if you know why, and did the system work? ross: the shake alert in the

early morning program is a very important effort, and this is essentially a training quake for that. in other words, one can't expect to get along time of shaking before an earthquake that is this small. if you're far away from it, the shaking will be very modest. if you are close to it where you make it shaking more strongly, you are so close that the seismic waves would get to you before the signal gets to your phone. nevertheless, we need these training quakes to strengthen and improve all the algorithms that are built into that earthquake warning system. so when we do get a very large quake, the chances will be greater that many people will be affected will get several seconds to perhaps at most 10 seconds warning, and that is what we need to focus on, the response of that system in a large earthquake. kristen: more science and more

preparedness on her own parts. ross stein, thank you so much for joining us today, we really appreciate it. ross: always good to talk with you. kristen: we have lots of resources our website to help you prepare for an earthquake, including a video on what to pack in your earthquake kit. up next, your voice, your vote. a state

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state controller. the two candidates who made it to the general election ballot, cohen was a san francisco supervisor and is now chaired the california state board of equalization. many experts predict a tight race, so we've invited both candidates to the show. today lonnie chin joins us live. good to have you on the show. this first question, we will ask your opponent as well, the state controller is basically the chief -- the state's chief financial officer. what in your background has prepared you for this job? >> i've had experience across a range of different activities, i've been involved in policymaking, appointed by both republican and democratic

presidents, i spent four years appointed by barack obama to oversee our federal social security program. i studied federal and state budget policies specifically, and i've also been involved in teaching at sanford on these issue and i've started my own small business and focus that small business business on economic consulting as well as being chairman of the board of el camino health here in the bay area, so i understand how an institution conducts audits. i think i bring a broad range of backgrounds and perspectives what really as you noted is the states chief accountability chief fiscal officer and i think these experiences are tremendously important as we look ahead to the challenges we face as a state going forward. kristen: you're the first republican deemed to have a shot , but there were several democratic candidates who

diluted the vote and you are the only republican. you know there are twice as many registered democrats as there are republicans. you cannot win without any democrats, so why should any democrats vote for you? lanhee: it's not about ideology or partisanship. it's about what we can do to improve situations for californians across our state, making sure we have transparency for every single dollar our state spends. my effort is one that has garnered support across partisan lines. we have the endorsement of a number of democrats from the vice presidential nominee, joe lieberman, to the former democratic leader of the state senate. and newspapers across the state, every single major newspaper that has endorsed in this race has endorsed me, including the san francisco chronicle and

others. our effort is garnering support across party lines because my message is not a partisan one i'm it's about getting the state working again and being responsive to taxpayers. kristen: let's talk about your positions. here is an ad that your opponent has been running. >> republicans put abortion at risk, even in california. chen refuses to support the amendment to enshrine the right to abortion in the california constitution. kristen: let's talk about that, as a controller, are you a threat to abortion rights in california? lanhee: we need to understand what the role of the comptroller's office is first and foremost. it's not to make decisions about where spending goes. that is the job of the legislature and the governor. notice what the ad doesn't say, it doesn't say i'm pro-choice,

which is my position. she assiduously avoids that because she wants to mislead people into thinking that somehow that isn't my position. the reality is that i am pro-choice, and beyond that, as controller i would have neither the power nor the inclination to make changes that would impact access to reproductive freedoms in the state of california. to suggest otherwise indicates a blatant misunderstanding of the office. kristen: i think a lot of voters in california do care about this, so i have to ask. did you vote for donald trump in 2016 and would you vote for him in 2024 if he were the nominee? lanhee: i did not support or vote for donald trump and 2016 and i will not vote for him if he runs again. i think the basic point here is that californians need to understand, we have to focus on

the issues at play in our state. that is what my campaign has been focused on, but i'm not afraid to demonstrate and talk about times when i've separated myself from my political party and what others in my party might believe. this i believe is an example of that. kristen: what would you change in the role that you would have as controller? what do you see that is not going right that is in your control? are there any events recently that you would point to? lanhee: i think we need to be much more aggressive in auditing what is happening with our state's financing right now. one example would be the gas tax. we have very little accountability for how the money is spent. i believe our next controller has to be a watchdog for taxpayers who is not afraid to ask questions and demand results. too often, that simply hasn't happened. big programs of spending, like on health care, for example, have not been addressed or

audited in 20 years in some cases. we need to get to the bottom of where money is going to ensure that those who deserve these services are getting them and that taxpayers are getting will value for every single dollar that we spend in sacramento. kristen: we will have your opponent on thursday, but today we thank you for your time. lanhee: thank you very much. kristen: coming up next, what does a pair of levi's jeans say about the company's legacy? our media partners at the

kristen: welcome back. two california-based clothing dealers have nabbed a deal for a pair of levi's jeans for $76,000. they are one of the oldest known pairs from the gold rush era. aside from being a collectors item, do the genes highlight racist legacy?

there is an article about this and joining us live to answer that question and more is an arts and culture reporter for the standard. julie, nice to have you on the show. >> thanks so much for having me. kristen: refresh our memory, where were these genes discovered? julie: they were discovered in an abandoned mine by a into him -- addendum hunter, michael harris, and they were sold for $76,000. kristen: wait, there are denim hunters out there? julie: yes, that is a real thing. they know all about levi's jeans and exactly how to date them and where they come from. it's a very specific skill. kristen: where do they go, to all the mining and gold rush and railroad towns? julie: gold rush towns, they will go and dig through the dirt

and abandoned mine shafts and dig up vintage jeans and sell them for quite a bit of cash. the final bid was $76,000, but they are not the most expensivejeans ever purchase. there was a pair back in 2018 that was auctioned off for over $100,000. kristen: wow, that is crazy. these jeans are in remarkable condition, i understand, given that they were from the 1880's. but there was something on the patch on the genes that was rather disturbing. tell us about that patch. julie: inside the pocket label, it actually says "made by white labor,", which is disturbing, but it would be part and parcel of the time, it was important at that time to try to show that

goods were made by white labor and it was synonymous with being the best possible product was a product made by white labor. so very disturbing indeed. of course the type of marketing no longer exist on levi's jeans, but it was something the denim historians could use to help date that vintage pair of levi's. kristen: you are right, the discrimination against chinese laborers on the railroad and laundry workers was rampant and there were exclusionary laws. but i wonder if this is the first pair to ever have been found with such a patch, or have there been others? julie: it wouldn't have been the first pair, but i'm not sure if there have been others. certainly all jeans around this time period would have carried such a distinction, because it is written alongside best materials, best quality, best sewing.

so again, at that time period, being the best was also synonymous, unfortunately, with white, and this assurance that it was white labor was somehow meant to imply that the quality of the genes was better as well. kristen: well, i'm glad that label no longer appears on the genes. let's talk about the levi's jeans and their enduring appeal. what do you think this says about that? julie: levi's or just such a household name, they are about to celebrate their 150th anniversary next year. everybody owns a pair of levi's or at least knows about levi's. it's really a san francisco story, jeans -- they were born here when levi strauss, a bavarian immigrant, decided to start using tent canvas to sew pants. so many were coming into his dry goods store to get their pants

patched up, and he realized he could make a more solid pair of pants and make a lot of money in the process. he did just that, and it up making a lot more money than many of the gold miners did in search of fortune. kristen: who fronted the money or paid up in the auction? julie: it was two buyers together who purchased the genes. kyle put down 90% of the funds, and zip stevenson put down 10%. kyle is just 23 years old, and he is putting down this kind of cash for vintage jeans, which shows what kind of appeal they have for the gen z vintage buyers market. zip stephenson has served as almost like a mentor for kyle

and looking out for these rare vintage finds. kristen: what do you suppose they will do with them? julie: right now they are on display by appointment only at zip stephenson's shop in l.a., but i think the real motive behind these types of purchases is investment. britt eaton purchased these pants for 23,000 -- $23,000 and auctioned them for $76,000. if you more years you can imagine them selling for $100,000 or more. kristen: thank you s

kristen: thanks for joining us today for "getting answers." tonight, breaking news. the largest earthquake to rattle the san francisco bay area in years. residents warned to stay on alert. tonight, scientists on the reason why. and that deadly school shooting. tonight, the arsenal now discovered and the note. authorities say the 19-year-old just garage waited from the st. louis area high school last year, and that is another case of a young man armed with an ar-15-style rifle. tonight, the images, the weapon, and more than 600 rounds of ammo. the sheriff revealing the disturbing message and the handwritten note. alex perez in st. louis tonight. also tonight, that 5.1 earthquake rattling the san fancisco bay area centered just outside san jose. the strongest to hit the area in nearly a decade. residents and that warning tonight to stay alert. we'll hear from the scientists tonight. the triple threat in