kristen: hi, there. you are watching "getting answers" live on abc 7. every day, we talk to experts about issues in the bay area and get answers for you in real-time. as democrats prepare to become the minority party in the house, there's a call for a new economic patriotism to unify america. the congressmen calling for joins us to explain what that means and talk about donald trump's announcement in just three hours. several key races are still undecided in san francisco, but

what we know says a lot about many asian voters' distrust of city government right now. we will take a closer look at what this election reveals. but first, more layoffs in the tech sector. we told you about twitter, meda -- meta, salesforce, and lyft. today, amazon announced it is cutting about 10,000 workers. many of those employees may not just lose their jobs but their ability to work in the u.s.. thank you for your time. >> thank you so much for having me. kristen: a lot of these disappearing touchups, are they being occupied by immigrants on special work visas? >> many are. by our estimates, the self reporting from people laid off from companies like meta and

twitter, about 1% of people looking for jobs post-layoff are immigrants on visas, maybe on their way to having a green card, but that process can be decades, and they don't have it yet, and that means they have 60 days to figure out how to maintain their status or leave the united states. kristen: what does it take to maintain their status? does it necessarily mean having landed another job? >> it does not necessarily, but you need an employer to petition you for a change of petition to be able to keep working. the clock starts on the last day of employment, and you would need the new company to make you an offer by about day 30 and start the preparation process, and it would need to be filed and received by the government

by the 60th day for you to be able to keep working. the other option is to become a dependent on your spouse's non-immigrant status or try to change to be a visitor for six months or maybe become a student, and if you cannot manage to file that new petitioner application by day 60, you would have to leave the country. kristen: you are saying marry somebody or become a student or have another employer say, yeah, we will take you, here's your job offer? this is not a lot of time we are talking about to do all this. if that happens to you and you get one of those notices and you are here on a visa, what is the first thing you should do? >> don't marry an american citizen just to have a sham marriage. it is really hard with thanksgiving coming and freezes

in hiring at tech companies and the december holidays coming, and this 60-day window puts you right about the first or second week of january, so if you are not married to someone, often what we see is to file that application or change of status to become a visitor, and you can request an additional six months to stay in the united states. you can at least stay in your neighborhood with your friends and family in the u.s. while you look for your next role or figure out how to become a startup founder on a visa. kristen: the folks who get this h-1b visa, is it just that they applied to come here and are granted that because a company wants them because they have

specialized skills that somehow make them very desirable and that americans cannot fill those roles? >> yeah, the h-1b reset is a status for working professionals who have some sort of specialty occupation like a professional job they are able to perform in the united states. kristen: what would that be? >> that would be like a software engineer or architect. it would be not an administrative assistant or it could be something arbitrary like the government can sometimes say steve jobs did not go to college so you don't need a bachelors degree to be a ceo, so maybe the ceo position is a specialty occupation or not, but in tech, we see engineers -- there used to be a lot of computer programmers when that designation worked before the trump administration. a lot of technical engineering roles from people who went to

stanford, harvard, m.i.t., and top global institutions. kristen: can i just ask you if there is concern, especially by tech companies are ceo's or those doing the hiring were if this were to happen where a lot of people leave, they could take this skills and, let's say, go to canada or england or china or somewhere else and never come back and there's that fear about brain drain? >> absolutely. this is a national security issue and our immigration system is broken because we are rejecting the world's best and brightest. the ptsd that i see caused in my friends who are immigrants who have to go through this system and how it prevents them from being creative and innovative is astounding. these individuals could be curing cancer. they could be, you know, saving the climate. they could be creating advanced

defense technologies that keep america safe into this century and beyond, and it gets so hard for them to say -- to stay and other countries greet them with open arms and bags of money if you want to create a start up there, and we don't have anything like that in the united states. it is amazing that people want to come here still, and we are lucky that we can rest on our good fortune of being this land of freedom and opportunity that allows people to have economic opportunities that they do not in their home countries that people still want to come here despite, not because of our immigration system. kristen: right. i'm wondering, what happens after that 60 days? i know technically they lose their status and technically they have to leave, but will someone actually come and import you? >> the immigration system is so broken that there's probably lists of hundreds of thousands of people who are more important to be arrested first, but tell

that to someone who just got their mba from stanford and want to create a venture-backed tech company. they are not going to wait to wonder if there is going to be a not on the door and handcuffs and they will be taken to immigration jail and sent to a deportation trial and, you know, hope that they get released potentially while they are awaiting their next hearing. it is a very scary process, and a much better choice is to just leave and go to another country where they are welcome. the european union has a tech worker visa. canada has a points-based system. mexico welcomes tech entrepreneurs, so there are many other places to go if you can no longer stay in the united states. kristen: i'm sure some of these folks have come to you to inquire about immigration issues. are you finding they are generally having a hard time getting another job right now? >> yeah, there are some being

approached by recruiters from early-stage startups where the founders he did the last one memos and put a pause on hiring then, so they have some room with which they can recruit exceptional talent that had been scooped up by big tech and was not previously on the market, so if you are a start up with cash, this is an amazing time to hire, but i don't know if there will be enough jobs in time for all the displaced workers who have 60 days where they have to figure something out. kristen: it is a tough situation. thank you for that information, and we really appreciate your time today.

kristin: i want to let you know we were supposed to have congressman rochon on as our guest. he's probably busy. he has not checked in yet, but when he does, we will bring you that, but we want to start with a story from this morning. we heard from vice president pence about a possible run for president in 2024 even if donald trump does enter the race. pence spoke to abc and reveals the last time he spoke with former president trump and where their relationship stands right now. >> thank you so much taking the time. i watched your interview with david muir and read some experts from your book which is out this week and i was trying to figure out in my head what your relationship is now with former president trump and if i were to put it in facebook terms, it seems like it is complicated. how do you look at your

relationship now? >> it is good to be with you, and what i can say is i will always be proud of the record of the trump/pence administration. for four and a half years, the president and i worked very closely on policies that made this country more prosperous and stronger than ever before, but obviously, it did not end well. in the days following that tragic day in january of 2021, the president and i sat down, as i shared with david muir last night, and we talked through the issues around that. we parted amicably, but in the months that followed, when the president returned to much of the same rhetoric he was using before that tragic day, even defending those that had ransacked capital and attacked police officers, i just decided that it was time to go our separate ways, and we have not spoken for more than a year and a half, and i think that was

right for me to do at the time, to step aside, but again, i will always be grateful that he chose me to be vice president, and i will always be proud of the record we created for the american people. >> with david muir, you talked about how during the insurrection, you refused to leave the capitol building. you said, "i'm not giving those people decide side of a 16-car motorcade speeding away from the capital -- "i'm not going to give those people the sight of a 16-car motorcade speeding away from the capitol." for this people not once your supporters -- were those people not once your supporters? >> whatever else i thought about that day, the people who rioted at the capitol may have thought they were -- kristen: that was reggie aqui's conversation with former vice

president, but joining us right now is self a. i know you're busy so we are setting this conversation a little bit late. it looks like the gop will cap to the house, though with a much slimmer majority than people thought. do you take it as a win or do you think the democrats could have done better had they messaged differently? what do you think? >> i think it was an extraordinary win. we held the senate. this was an odds-defining victory in the house in terms of only losing a flu seats -- a few seats, and the reason is that people voted for democracy. they voted to make sure we rejected election denial is in. people voted for reproductive choice, and that i think explains it. kristen: you want to build on

this for 2024, and you have been talking about pushing a new economic patriotism. what does that mean? >> it is recognizing that too much of our middle class has been hollowed out, that jobs went offshore and that we need to be making things in this country again. we need to have the government and the private sector create new industries, new factories, new jobs. the chips act was central to that where we are now building semiconductor manufacturing in the united states. intel is doing that in ohio, but we need a chips act for every industry and every year and part of it should be workers being paid good wages and that should revitalize our economy and lower inflation. kristen: definitely, your district encompasses tech, so i know you have talked about making tech work for everyone,

but i want to also focus on what is happening at twitter a little bit here. as you know, most of the staff has now been fired. certainly the content moderation people, a lot of them, and verification no longer means what it used to. what do you say to americans who ask why the federal government allowed this to happen. was there anything it could have done? is the government powerless? what you think about what is happening there? >> i do think that we need to make sure we have transparency there. one of the things i have suggested is that elon musk should not be in charge of making the decisions of content. just like "the washington post," it is not just razors who decides what story or what op-ed gets printed. it is an editorial board and i hope at twitter we will have the same group making the day to day decisions.

kristen: i want to add something you have been passionate about witches extending programs for people, including childcare, for example, but some economists, including obama official larry summers, says the massive american spending plan contributed in part to inflation and i wonder if you think given inflation right now, we need to put the brakes on more spending and investment in the next couple of years or at least the next year? >> i think the cause of the inflation is the put in war. because of the inflation was the pandemic and the supply chain challenges. of course we have to be careful with spending, but spending has to be paid for. if you just had spending that was deficit spending, that would be inflationary, but if you have spending and add taxes on the wealthy to pay for it, then that spending is productive spending like childcare, not taking up 20% of people's paychecks and

helping people get back to work and i think those are things that will help us fight inflation, not create inflation. kristen: tonight, as you know, president trump will make what he's calling a very big announcement at 6:00 our time from mar-a-lago, but any chance it is not to say he is running for president 2024? that is what everyone is expecting. what do you make of that? >> the interesting thing is no one is really talking about it on capitol hill or if kevin mccarthy will be speaker or not. they are talking about how we are going to move forward. the wonderful thing is trump does not command the same attention he used to. maybe this suggests that after so many of his candidates lost we are beginning to turn the page. kristen: do you think anything can get done with a split

congress, and if so, what do you think are the issues or areas where there might be commonality ? >> we discussed some goal reforms. let's make sure we have a process in the congress where every member can vote on legislation and it's not just top-down which gives too much power to lobbyists. let's get rid of pac money. i think with some of those structural reforms, it can pass. the other thing that can is how do we bring more manufacturing back to the united states? i working with marco rubio on a bill to do exactly that. kristen: thanks for joining us and thank you for the conversation. >> thank you as always for having me. kristen: coming up next, when we got to the elections, san francisco -- one week afte (vo) a medicare advantage plan should come with all the

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kristin: sir elton john, the rocket man himself, is gearing up for his final u.s. show as he travels the globe, closing out five dazzling and groundbreaking decades on the stage. robin roberts had the honor of going to his home to talk about how he is preparing his career, his family, and what is next for him. ♪ >> after five decades on stage, sir elton john is closing the curtain on touring. just days away from his final farewell yellow brick road u.s. show. >> you have to soak it in and i have soaked in all the love that has been shown. >> a dazzling full circle moment for rocket man, wrapping his north american in the arena

he first started, dodger stadium, which propelled his career in 1975. ago where you set the world on fire. thated sequined dodgere wgog to? >> know because i'm not the same size i was. >> what do you remember most? >> it was not a happy time in my life, but i bounced back quickly. dodger stadium at that point was pivotal. i was the biggest i would ever be. to finish off with three days at the dodger stadium, i could not ask for a better ending. >> you always look for something unique. this one will be live-streamed on disney+. what else will be different? >> i have three girls coming in that i have loved so much in my career.

>> for elton, who holds six grammys, a tony, two oscars, he says collaborating with young artists has become his secret sauce. >> a lot of people do not embrace the new and their songs, which are great, do not shift over to the new, and you have to . like i say, the young make me with popcip ranking on billboard's top 10 list, bringing in over 88 million global streams. >> i want to feel the love from the music-loving generation that is out there. she has a lot of hands. i wanted her to feel the love because she has not had a lot of love coming her way over the past few years.

>> when you're 23, 24, you have a different kind of energy, and it shows in the music. when you have worked with those people, and i have worked with them, you love art, too, and it is a no-brainer. i got 16-year-olds in the audience. i get 80-year-olds. i get grandmothers and their children and their children, and i get babies. >> i know how much you enjoy singing people in your iconic outfits singing along to your song. the glasses you see -- >> oh, my god. all different outfits from my careers, people in funny glasses, hats, people holding up laggards saying i have been to 20 shows, 30 shows, it's my birthday -- it is like, wow. >> i remember you saying if not for music, you would love to decorate. what is your most cherished possession here? >> what do i have?

oh, i see. if there was a fire here, this would be the first thing i would take. you see that? >> yes. look at your smile. look at all your smiles. oh, my gosh. 11-year-old zachary and nine-year-old electric, elton's sons with his husband david, who he is excited to spend the most time with. >> you see how they have grown. have they shown an interest in music at all? >> elisha started playing the trumpet. elisha is headed toward the stage. i don't know what zachary is doing. i'm coming up through because i want to be with my children.

tonight, the alarming news coming in. the emergency meeting in poland. two dead in poland from a missile just over the border with ukraine. tonight, russia denying responsibility for that missile. president biden briefed. leaders in poland convening that emergency meeting. at least two people killed. ukraine tonight blaming russia. the kremlin denying it. tonight, what the pentagon is now saying. and the statement from the white house moments ago. james longman in ukraine tonight. cecilia vega traveling with the president. also tonight, the breaking news involving former president trump. what he's expected to announce just a short time from now. jon karl standing by. and trump's former vice president mike pence telling us he hasn't talked to trump in more than a year. pence says because trump

returned to the rhetoric over the 2020 election. tonight, we ask mike pence