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their itineraries can make your planning easier. first, rsv infections surging among children. but now, older adults are being hit hard as well. joining us live, special correspondent a look patel -- to share new data on rsv. because this is thanksgiving week, we are going to talk about a lot of gathering and travel tips. >> you worded that in a more welcoming way. i was going to say, ways thanksgiving continue to the emergency department. kristen: a my. that is direct and blunt. we have a lot to talk about and i understand some highlights are contained in our amazingly educational quiz show style game of two truths and alive. >> that is how we roll. people know how this goes. tell us which one of these is

not true. a, there are three times as many cooking fires on thanksgiving than any other day of the year. b, last year, an estimated 300 people experienced anaphylaxis from turkey meat. c, rsv hospitalizations and adults are nine times higher than they were in 2018-2019. which is not true? kristen: we believe these choices up there for you to consider. i think c is true. i thinka -- i know both a and b happen, the only question is how many times. i'm going to say a is a lie because i feel like there are way more than three times as many cooking fires on thanksgiving. spoken as someone who friday turkey one year. we do not have a fire. dr. patel: a is true.

i thought that was a high number. you would think it is higher. kristen: i was going to guess 10 times higher. dr. patel: this will be part of us chatting about the importance of thanksgiving safety. burns to happen. you have to think about things like hot grease, ovens, kids running around. b, i made that up. but we will get back to that as well. c is going to be a big topic because we are seeing high hospitalization from rsv not only in children but also adults with numbers that are nine times higher than they were a few years ago. two times as high as they were a couple of years ago. people need to remember that vulnerable adults with underlying medical conditions and the elderly are still at increased risk of severe illness from rsv. kristen: before we move on, there is a lot to talk about, i want to cover my utter embarrassment. there is no such thing as

anaphylaxis from turkey, right? dr. patel: i can't say it doesn't happen. [laughter] allergies to meet are extremely rare, but i am glad you brought that up. there are a lot of people out there who may be allergic to some of the most common foods that cause allergies such as tree nuts, peanuts and a dairy, fish, eggs, soy, wheat, so it is important you do what they do at nice restaurants and ask your guests if they have food allergies. make sure you prevent unnecessary reactions. kristen: good tip. let's talk about older adults and rsv. it is -- dr. patel: it is hard to say it is the same reason in terms of the underlying immunology or lack of exposure. presumably, older adults have seen rsp -- rsv multiple times during their life. given the fact we are seeing

more kids possibly spreading it, we will inevitably see more adults run into it as well. in the same way we are seeing increased amounts of influenza. adults with underlying medical conditions are at increased risk of being hospitalized. even adults who have conditions such as copd or asthma, that condition can be worsened by rsv. the last two years, we have talked about protecting family members from covid. we have to actually follow the same measures when it comes to these other respiratory viruses. grandma can get a newborn baby sick and vice versa. keep an eye out this holiday season. kristen: no rsv vaccine yet. maybe next year? right now the flu vaccine and covid vaccine are both available and you should get it. my question is, when should people get it? let's say they are sick now and they have the flu. with they wait a while before they get the vaccine after recovering?

dr. patel: you do not have to wait. it is different with influenza, you can get the shot. with covid-19, chat with your doctor. you may need to wait. it is recommended for some to wait two to three months after having active covid. kristen: are hospitals in the bay area overflowing right now? dr. patel: i will take off my journalist had and put on the pediatrician one. hospitals are full in the bay area. i work at a couple of different hospitals and we are full. not only are we full, but would we get transfer calls from other hospitals looking for places to send children, whether that is a general hospital or the icu, we are full. we are hitting capacity. we are hearing from santa barbara, napa, sonoma, up north to ukiah saying hey, we have to

send these children somewhere. not only is it a critical issue, but there is no hope inside for next year where the year after in terms of capacity. this is a long drawn out conversation we will have to have. kristen: all we can do is change how many people need to go for the hospital and its keep that number low. dr. patel: exactly. kristen: how can i tell the difference between rsv muff flu and covid? my kid is sick right now. he does not have covid. his it important for us to discern exactly what it is they have, or is the advice all kind of the same? like, rest and monitor. when to be intervene? dr. patel: you listed off like five different diseases. when it comes to common colds, there may not be anything you do differently earlier in the stages of infection. if a child has something like a

different coronavirus or rhinovirus or rsv, the symptoms will generally be the same. supportive care does not change the important thing is to know when to seek emergent care. regarding influenza, there are antivirals available for influenza and covid. paxlovid and tamiflu. there is something you can do early on if you need to take an antiviral. it may be important to know your status to prevent yourself from getting others infected. you did mention strep throat. there are conditions where if you have a severe fever, you should talk to your doctor because you may actually need antibiotics for antibiotics are not used to treat viruses, but in some bacterial infection such as strep throat, you may need antibiotics. kristen: i want to get to the fun stuff. it is thanksgiving. people are going to be gathering. we would like to get some health and safety tips from you, other than do not burn yourself trying turkey. dr. patel: do not burn yourself.

keep an eye on everyone in the kitchen. one that is not talked about often, cuts. ask any emergency room doctor how many stitches they put in on thanksgiving day. i have seen a toddler cut from a can lid. we briefly touched on food allergies. make sure you know what your guests can and cannot eat. if you have to have portions -- special portions for someone, do that. we are going to talk about respiratory viruses because a lot of people out there are going to be gathering around the table. you need to be careful that other people around you know there vaccination status. ventilation works. testing works. we are hosting a friend's giving. shout out to two people who are going to win. the ones who are staying home who texted me who say they have cold symptoms. that is the kind of move you

have got to do. if you look at statistics right now, there is an estimated 500 people in the united states who may die on thanksgiving from car accidents, which ramp-up during thanksgiving because of the excess alcohol consumption that happens around this time of year. please be safe on the road. kristen: those are all great advice. thank you so much, i hope you have a great thanksgiving. if i do not talk to you before then, stay safe. dr. patel: have a safe and happy holiday come everyone. sorry to be the fun police. kristen: you want to make sure we keep having fun. if you are bleeding, you are not having fun. dr. patel: i like that. kristen: take care. up next, we talk cybersecurity. a new report says school districts need to step up or your information could be at risk. risk. i had no idea how much i wamy case was worth. c call the barnes firm to find out

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kristen: a new report by the center for internet security gives a failing grade to most school districts on their efforts to prevent hacking and identity theft. that has potentially devastating implications for students, employees and families. joining us to talk about the problem and solutions, the ceo of cybersecurity company cyber catch. >> thank you for having me. kristen: we think of companies and governments being hacked. we certainly report on them, but we overlook schools. do they get targeted? >> absolutely. if you look at california,

there's 6 million students in public schools. a treasure trove for attackers. public schools have thought them selves as educators, but didn't think they had valuable data. the data they have is valuable for bad guys. kristen: there was something in the l.a. unified school district a couple of months ago? >> l.a. unified school district got attacked. ransomware was installed. they had issues with operations. the horrible thing is that over 500 gigabytes of student data were stolen. they were demanding ransom payment. we are talking about potential harm for life to students because their social security numbers, personal health information, all kinds of information could be lost to identity theft. kristen: did they pay? if they did have to pay, i assume that is taxpayer money. >> they refused to pay.

that is where the tug-of-war is going on. the attackers are saying, you had better pay and we are leaking it. there is back-and-forth going on in terms of negotiation but they have not paid yet. but they do have the data. kristen: are there a lot of gaping holes in school security systems, compared to companies or governments? >> there is. unfortunately, the thinking is that no one would attack educators but there are 6 million students in california alone. there's a lot of data and a lot of gaps. most schools have vulnerabilities they are not even aware of. my company scanned over 11,000 websites, schools in the u.s., 4000 in california alone. 60% of schools have vulnerabilities in there where herbs -- in there web servers that they are not aware of. kristen: a lot of school

districts are wrestling with budgets. this it cost a lot of money to protect yourself? >> it does not cost a lot of money. three think school needs to do. one, look at response controls they have today and look at the gaps. use nist cybersecurity framework which has controls. a lot of them are manual controls for some of them are policies. some require technical controls. but have a good defense. second, they need a response plan. california enacted a new law september 23 that requires reporting cyber attacks. it is a very broad definition of unauthorized access. they have to report attacks. the third, tester controls to make sure nothing is broken. if you find holes before the attackers do, you are safe. if not, too late. kristen: if your school has been

hacked and you know about it or is subject to ransomware, what should you do as a parent or employee? >> parents and students should pay attention to the fact that their data is valuable to the bad guys. they should be asking schools, what are you doing to protect my data? multi factor authentication? backups offsite? property fence? the students themselves and parents should be protecting usernames and passwords. they should be using encryption. they should be careful, but they should really be holding the school accountable. ultimately it is the school's responsibility to protect the data. kristen: is the harm always seen immediately? >> unfortunately, a lot of times it takes a while. these are our future. these are young people.

if you steal someone's social security information, you won't see the harm happen until maybe years later when they are older and are trying to get a job. and then they will find identity theft committed against them. the harm comes later. that is the unfortunate consequence. that is why schools have to protect their data and make sure they have got the right defense in place because identity theft can be harmful for life. other information. medical, family, that can be used for blackmail. perhaps going after the parents who may be in certain jobs that may be of national security consequence. this is a big deal. kristen: so much to this. an overlooked problem. thank you for taking the time today to shed light and offer solutions. ceo of cyber catch, thank you. >> thank you for having me. kristen: up next, the holiday travel rush is on. but we are already looking ahead

to 2023. we've got a list of the top places to visit next year.

kristen: 2023 is right around the corner. if traveling is on your list, we are here to help. lonely planet released its 18th annual best in travel list that features the 30 must visit destinations around the globe. joining us is nick chambers, executive editor and senior vice president of content. >> happy to be here. kristen: i know you have been doing this 18 years, what has been the goal? why? >> this list is an opportunity to dream and take the streams and turn them into action. the great thing about the best in travel list and a lot of the different travel list you see is an opportunity to take your

inspiration somewhere new and to explore the unexpected. there are places on the list that are familiar. places on the list you may never have thought of yourself. it helps to explore and consider the word -- world in a new way. kristen: just to keep this best -- keep the suspense up, you organized this list a little different. five categories. >> five categories. normally it is ranked. this year, we wanted to be responsive coming out of covid to the way we saw people traveling. it was just not -- it was not just about destination, but destination married with experience. our top five categories are around eating, the journey, unwinding, connection, learning. these are experiences that travelers really want to have in destination that enriches the experience they have and the trip they take.

kristen: i was going to hold the suspense longer by asking about your methodology. but i will be kind to our viewers. let's for the all the top 30. category by category. >> the first category, eating. everything from street food to fine dining. you will find lima, peru. on brea, italy. while alum poor. -- koala alum poor. >> for me, what was exciting about the eating is it is the best part of everything. the range of street food to fine dining and everything in between. and what that experience means when you go to a place and you eat. you experience the place through food. kristen: foodies, look out.

the second, journey. >> we were excited about thinking about trips that move you. how you move through a place and the transformation that happens not just in traveling to a place, but moving through it. nova scotia, canada. we felt when we started to explore it, it can't be confined to one town. the best way to experience the place was by taking a journey and driving between villages, really engaging with the beauty of its shores. mouton. zambia. western australia. 59 protected natural areas in columbia. istanbul to sophia train. we felt the journey was part of the connection. kristen: sort of like the pacific coast highway. it is about the journey.

it is not about where you end up. i would put mongolia on that list too. unwind, connect and learn. >> you're going to be on our panel next year. [laughter] i like your recommendations. for unwinding, relax and reconnection, jordan was a feature destination. it makes the list for places you can go beyond petra to build an itinerary. greece, do make -- jamaica, dominica and malta. kristen: you have a couple of american cities. we put boise up there, but you had one more. alaska? >> gasper alaska was the other american destination. alaska, boys -- these are places

of community coming together to offer an entry point into a destination that was filled with people. kristen: alaska is wonderful for that. and finally, learn. new mexico? >> new mexico. the land of enchantment. the indigenous culture, art and music. the learn category was about finding a new experience in taking home something you learned. manchester, dresden, el salvador and south south coombe -- south scotland. kristen: regardless of which destination you choose, do you have travel tips for people to get the most out of their experience? >> know what you want. state route 2 that. when you think about the places you want to go and what you want to get from the experience.

kristen: research before you go never hurts. >> never appeared lonelyplanet.com. kristen: thank you so much for coming on the show and sharing your top 30 destinations of 2023. have a great thanksgiving. >> you too. kristen: you can get our live newscast, breaking news, weather and more with our abc7 streaming tv out. it is available on google tv, fire tv and roku. search abc7 bay ar

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