appreciate your time as always. right now, on jimmy kimmel, pamela anderson. ama: have a great night. ♪ >> lou: from hollywood, it's "jimmy kimmel live"! tonight -- pamela anderson. the mypillow guy in a claw machine. and music from fall out boy. with cleto and the cletones. and now, jimmy kimmel! [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> jimmy: very nice. thank you. very nice. thanks. welcome. that's very nice. thank you, everybody. i'm jimmy, i am the host of the show. thanks for watching. thank you for coming. i'm glad you're here. i'm glad you're in a good mood. that's a weird noise, by the way.

a weird noise for a human being to be making. it's appropriate, because tonight is mypillow night. the pillow-pocalypse has begun! [ cheers and applause ] all the way from whatever planet he's from, mr. my pillow, mike lindell, is here to finally answer the question, "what if ted lasso was on the fbi watchlist?" [ laughter ] mike was here once before a couple of years ago, and he must have had fun, because he's been very anxious to come back. >> hey, jimmy, how was your new year? i'd love to come on your show, mr. jimmy. i would like to talk to old jimmy kimmel again. i would love to come on your show. jimmy, if you'd like me to come on your show, here i am. heck, i think we got our anniversary coming up, jimmy. so that would be a good thing, we could do it. i'm in l.a., i'm going to be here all week, i'll come on your show they time, i'll do whatever you want me to do. i'm saying yes, jimmy, i will come. jimmy, you'd probably double your audience. i've got new stuff, jimmy.

how about we get together, jimmy? jimmy kimmel. jimmy kimmel. jimmy kimmel. jimmy kimmy. jimmy. call me up, jimmy. call me up, tell me what you want, what time, i'll be there. jimmy, i haven't heard from you. it's not funny anymore. right? [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: no, it's still funny. it kind of gets funnier as we go on. but we missed mike so we accepted his request on one condition. i told mike he was welcome on the show if he agreed to do the interview from inside a dave & buster's claw machine. [ laughter ] and guess what? >> jimmy kimmel has mike lindell, i don't know, round three or four, thank you for putting yourself through what jimmy kimmel's going to put you through, whatever it's going to be. >> yeah. by the way, everybody, i'm going to be inside of a claw game. inside of a -- you know, where they grab the -- the stuff. because he doesn't want -- you have to be vaccinated there, so it's for his protection. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: well, hold on. i do want to make something clear. i did not insist mike be in a claw machine because he wasn't vaccinated, i insisted he be in

a claw machine because it's hilarious. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] this isn't a political statement. it's just for fun. you know mike has had a busy week. he decided to run for chairman of the republican national committee. there were 167 votes cast, he got 4 of those. [ laughter ] so he didn't win. but he claims ronna mcdaniel, who did win, asked him to spearhead an elite unit of eection conspiracy investigators. >> one of the things i want to say, we need to hold the rnc accountable. she did say i will work with mike lindel. i can't wait the work with mike lindel. when you work with me, it's election crime, not a weak word like election integrity, it's called election crime. we're going to talk later in the week. we're setting up the election crime unit, steve. so everybody stay tuned, it's going to be big. >> jimmy: right. why do i have the feeling this will be headquartered in the back of a van in mankato, minnesota? [ laugher ] mike lindell's election crime unit sounds like it would be a great prime-time show for nbc.

♪ dun dun ♪ >> just forget about the evidence. why, what are you hiding? hey, will you guys finally look at this evidence? would you get a cyber guy? i'm going to show you inside a dominion machine, everybody. right there keep going down, stop. "inside the machines." this is realtime crime, you can't deny it. i don't know if you can see this, but there's stars and stripes on here, or stripes, i guess. those are our machines and we demand to look inside and get rid of them! melt them down and use them for prison bars like i said! talk about evidence, we had enough evidence to put everybody in prison for life. 300 some million people. ♪ dun dun ♪ [ laughter ] >> jimmy: well, your move, dick wolf. [ cheers and applause ] i would watch that. i would watch the hell out of that. maybe he can team up with the space force and fight election

crime in other galaxies too! [ laughter ] we have quite a lineup of guests tonight. pamela anderson, the ceo of mypillow, and fall out boy. [ cheers and applause ] it's like madlibs 95. mike lindell's buddy donald trump is suing yet another person. he is suing bob woodward, the writer from "the washington post" for publishing the audio recordings of interviews he did for woodward's last book. trump sat for interviews. now he wants $49.98 million from woodward. [ laughter ] $50 million seemed like too much. he doesn't want to get greedy. donny lawsuits took to truth social to lash out at woodward -- he said, "this was an open and blatant attempt to make me look as bad as possible." his argument is "those tapes you made of me talking made me look bad!" [ laughter ] he's such -- you know the thing, he's such a whiner, all he does is bitch and cry about how unfair everyone is, media's against me, the courts are against me, the scale in my

bathroom is against me! [ laughter ] donald trump is whining nonstop since 2016. and the worst part is he warned us. he told us he was going to do it! >> we're gonna whine, whine, whine! you people, you're going to be sick and tired of whining! you're going to say, mr. president, please, we can't take it anymore, you're whining too much! and i'm going to say, i don't give a damn, we're going to keep whining 100%! [ laughter ] >> jimmy: all right. "the art of the squeal," right? [ applause ] oh, george santos today. if you've been following this story, you know how wonderful it is. he announced he will recuse himself from committee assignments as the ethics investigation into whether he has any plays out. [ laughter ] which is good, because it will allow him to spend more time with his husband, chris hemsworth. [ laughter ] and though it seems pretty clear that most of his fellow

republicans do not want any part of him, he wants everybody to know this was a decision he made by himself. >> did mccartney tell you to step away from the committees? >> nobody tells me to do anything. i've made a decision on my own that i thought best represented -- pardon me. ow! >> sorry, sorry. >> guys, you've got to relax. you've assaulting me. >> mr. santos -- >> jimmy: he' definitely getting his steps in, i know that for sure. [ laughter ] we also got some good stuff from his ex-boyfriend, a gentleman named pedro, who shared some interesting bits of tid about lover boy george. >> he never showed that he was the psychopathic liar he's showing to be right now. he was so sweet, he was very caring. >> pedro since realized he looked past red flags, telling us he didn't learn until months into their relationship that santos was still married to the woman seen in this photo, who pedro at the time was sharing an apartment with. >> he fed a lie, he got caught in the lie, then he says another

lie to cover up that lie. >> her pedro with family. this is what pedro says santos gifted him, tickets to hawaii he later learned did not exist. >> i actually called delta and they told me there was never a single payment made. >> jimmy: wait, hawaii doesn't exist? [ laughter ] how about that. oh, i like pedro a lot. not knowing your boyfriend is married to your female roommate isn't really a red flag so much as it's an air raid siren. [ laughter ] so now with this story after story after story coming hard and fast, george whitewashington sat for a lengthy interview today with the friendly faces at one america news, who turns out weren't as friendly as he'd hoped they would be. >> as a public office holder, is there any scenario in which you feel it is okay to lie? >> no, i don't think lying is excusable. [ laughter ] at all, period, right?

there's no circumstance, especially if you're legislating for the american people right now. so what i might have done during the campaign does not reflect what is being done in the office. >> jimmy: right. [ laughter ] i may have lied to get here, but now that i'm here, i'm not gonna do it again. [ laughter ] >> what would you say, george, that you would have done differently? >> i wouldn't have lied about the education. i wouldn't have -- i would have just fought like hell to get that nomination and to be -- >> but in that same sentence, you've also said that you don't believe you would be sitting in this chair right now as congressman george santos if you didn't lie. >> it -- it's catch-22. but if i can do it all over again, i would change that one aspect and i'd just fight harder. >> jimmy: just like when i fought apollo creed. [ laughter ] it's a real catch-22. i lied 22 times and i got catched! [ laughter ] but he did admit he wouldn't be

a congressman if he hadn't have lied. seems like an easy fix. just resign! don't be a congressman! next time around, tell the truth and run again. [ cheers and applause ] you don't have to live with this. by the way, just for a second i thought maybe george santos was here in our audience. [ laughter ] that's not the real santos, that's like a mall santos. [ laughter ] there are so many kooks out there, but tonight, i think we should focus on the kook in here. in our building. and there he is. [ cheers and applause ] the mypillow man is ready in the claw machine. and we will get to him in about 20 minutes, we're going to have him relax a little. we'll be right back with pamela anderson, so stick around! [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> abc's "jimmy kimmel live!" brought to you by autotrader.

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>> jimmy: hi, there. tonight, he is currently nestled inside a claw machine, the ceo of mypillow mike lindell is with us. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] provided he doesn't suffocate. then later, with another new song from their upcoming album which is called "so much for stardust," fall out boy from the mercedes-benz stage. [ cheers and applause ] if you want to see them live, this morning they announced a world tour that starts june 21st at wrigley field. fall out boy. tomorrow night, nick offerman. from "the banshees of inisherin," kerry condon. and music from sofia carson and oscar nominee diane warren too. so please join us for all of that. our first guest tonight is unquestionably the most famous lifeguard in the world. this is her new memoir "love,

pamela," and her netflix documentary "pamela, a love story." please welcome pamela anderson! [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> jimmy: hi, pamela, how are you? >> it's been so long. >> jimmy: would you mind recapping what you just said to me as you walked out? you looked at me and said, "you're gray." >> you have gray hair. >> jimmy: i got old since the last time you were here. >> what happened, am i gray? >> jimmy: no, you're not gray. >> okay, good. >> jimmy: i saw your documentary. you go to the drugstore and buy clairol stuff. >> i know, i know, i know. i've always done that. i can't sit still long enough for somebody to do my hair. >> jimmy: you've always done that yourself? >> i've always done my hair. the gray is easier to cover than the dark. >> jimmy: maybe i should get you to do my hair. obviously it was somewhat shocking to you. >> you look good, you look thin.

>> jimmy: thanks. >> thinner. [ laughter ] i guess i haven't seen the show in so long, i don't know. i've been missing. eye gone on the farm, i haven't really been watching tv. i've been playing with my dogs and making jam. >> jimmy: you've been up in the iland, you've been living your life. peacefully, it seems. >> i know. it's so different. >> jimmy: somewhat peacefully. >> somewhat peacefully. >> jimmy: you did mention in the documentary you got your house remodeled. >> that was a mistake. >> jimmy: you married him at the beginning of the documentary and you divorced him by the end of the documentary. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] >> i mean, it's like a storyline. a beginning, a middle, an end. >> jimmy: at least you know he's not going to, like, gouge you when he's your husband for a while. >> geez, okay, let's not go there. >> jimmy: why did you decide to do this now? after all of these years. you have an incredible trove of memories. i mean, really. first of all, i'm so impressed that you wrote everything, all your experiences down in a journal. so religiously, so diligently. you kept everything. notes on everything. >> i did. that's how the documentary started. for writing my book, i just kind

of thought, what was my first memory? what's my last memory? i filled it all in between. i didn't go into my journals to write this book. i went back to those two chapters of my life and felt those feelings again and remembered scenes out of them. it's been a wild and crazy life, i don't know. i'm old enough to tell my story. >> jimmy: your son brandon, how old is brandon now? >> brandon's 26. >> jimmy: brandon's 26 now. he's a producer on the documentary? >> yeah, he produced -- he made the deals. he wanted me to do it. he said, "mom, it's time for you to tell your story." i said," okay, let me see what i came up with." i said -- i don't know if i've kept anything. i gave him the keys to the archives. i've saved everything. >> jimmy: yeah, you have everything. >> everything. everything. >> jimmy: then his job is to go through his mom's personal stuff. diaries -- >> i haven't killed anybody. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: yeah. >> so i figured anything other than that is fine. >> jimmy: yeah, no -- yeah, except for when it's your mom. and then i would imagine a lot of the stuff -- >> first of all, he's my kid. >> jimmy: right. >> he's tommy's kid.

he's kind of seen a lot in his life. [ laughter ] there's nothing shocking. there's nothing in my diary that's going to change his opinion of me. >> jimmy: none of hit shocked him? >> well, life has shocked him, poor kid. [ laughter ] both boys, you know. >> jimmy: was there one thing in particular that stood out to you that he mentioned that he read? >> no. >> jimmy: no, nothing? >> no, this was like -- ryan -- he had a director too. so he didn't really go through everything with a fine-tooth comb. it was interesting. i did see some of the videos. i hadn't seen anything for a really long time. that's what we do, we take videos of our kids, then we never sit down and watch them. >> jimmy: right, yeah. >> putting in these videos, it just brought so many tears to my eyes to see the wild birthday parties and things. just like my mom. >> jimmy: yeah. >> it was emotional to go through it all. but yeah, i guess it was a little spicier -- >> jimmy: was it fun to do through it all? >> it was hard to go through it. i think we compartmentalize. we put these things in our past and don't think about them again. i think that's kind what was the problem is.

i think we kind of need to face our childhoods, face our history. kind of look back and see why we are the way we are. >> jimmy: tommy was cool with you using these videos, i assume? >> well, yeah. him and i check in with each other every once in a while. he's happily married, he has someone really wonderful in his life, i'm really happy for them. this is kind of one of those things to put everything to rest, all in one big picture. having these piecemeal ideas, i thought -- brandon and dylan both said, if you told your whole story, it would make sense. seeing these little bits and pieces are harder. maybe there's a reason for it all. i don't know, i'm happy. >> jimmy: you mentioned going to back through and confronting this stuff and reading all this stuff and reliving this touch. but i thought this was very interesting. because i was a little bit confused when i'm watching the documentary. the parts, the diary, journal entries, are voiced over. and it's not you voicing them over. it's another -- it's a woman, a woman we never see, reading your journals during your documentary.

why did you have somebody else d that? >> well, someone asked me to read the journals and i didn't want to. i said, i think that's one step too far, i'm not going to sit there and read my journals. plus, i'd probably say oh, i'm not going to do that, i'm not going to do that. one thing i wanted was not to have anything to do with the documentary. just two days ago i sat down with my son dylan to see it. the whole time, i'm covering his eyes, covering my eyes. we're both in tears. i don't know what i saw but i was more concerned about him. i was just concerned about his feelings. >> jimmy: did dylan enjoy watching it? >> well, he did. he was happy that the story's out there and has been told correctly. i did it for them too. >> jimmy: you did it at the same time you've released a book "love pamela." >> that wasn't supposed to be at the same time. it's funny. two years ago i started writing a book. then this documentary idea came up with netflix. and we were -- they were going to be released at different times. then -- >> jimmy: there's so many good stories in here. >> yeah, well. >> jimmy: there's one story

where your son figured out what hugh hefner does for a living. >> yeah. >> jimmy: will you tell us that one? >> it was easter. i used to take my kids to the playboy mansion for easter. for the easter egg hunt. >> jimmy: same with our family. [ laughter ] >> i was getting in the car. i was getting in the car from valet. brandon comes running up just in terror, "mom!" i just got out of the grotto. "do you know what hef does for a living?" i was like, oh, geez. "he takes pictures of naked girls!" i said, eww! and ewww! they jumped in the car, we sped off, "let's get out of here!" he was horrified. [ laughter ] [ applause ] >> jimmy: happy easter, kids! >> i know. >> jimmy: at one time -- i remember when this happened. and i remember thinking like, wow, that's a strange thing that she's doing. you worked at a magic show in las vegas? >> who doesn't want to be a magician's assistant? >> jimmy: you were a huge star being a magician's assistant.

>> it was one of my favorite things i've ever done. >> jimmy: that's funny. >> i feel like if you're -- i just, you know -- you're on one side of the magic or the other. i always wanted to be on that side of the magic. i really enjoyed that. i got to be levitated 40 feet in the air. and i got fire spikes driven through me and burnt sometimes. it was so much fun. >> jimmy: how many shows? six, seven shows a week? >> three months. >> jimmy: three months of shows at the palms hotel? >> well, it was at planet hood, but i did go out to the palms. they took the "l" out when i was a resident. >> jimmy: that's when you know you're a big star, they remove one of the letters of the sign. >> and you're doing a magician's assistant. >> jimmy: and you're the world's biggest magician's assistant. at that time you also learned to make balloon animals? >> i didn't want to waste any time. when i was getting my makeup done, i hired a clown to teach me to make balloon animals. something to fall back on. you can't know too many things. >> jimmy: all right, so -- >> this is -- oh my god. okay. >> jimmy: i got some balloons.

[ cheers and applause ] >> it's been a decade. >> jimmy: how many do you need? >> give me that. >> jimmy: to make something? >> i have no idea. just -- i have no idea. the funny thing about balloon animals are that they could pop at any moment. >> jimmy: yeah, right. >> wait. wait. okay. that is a poodle. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: well this poodle is in need some of veterinary assistance. [ laughter ] all right, here we go. this is something i never imagined would happen to me in my life. >> oh, i got it! it's a poodle. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: pamela anderson is here. we'll be right back. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ bundle. ♪ this is why we're perfect together. hang on.

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i'm hardwired to be the most loving and insane person. >> yeah. you have to be insane to be in love, so -- >> yeah, i know. you know what i say to all my girlfriends? my mom tells me to be fearless, to be in love, like what the [ bleep ] does that even mean? >> it means you've got to be brave to be in love. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: pamela and her producer son brandon. so you have all these vhs tapes in this -- like in this storage area. >> vhs tapes. >> jimmy: you hand them all to brandon. does he even have a vcr to watch any of this stuff? >> we had to get a special tv. with a little thing in it.

i kept it, because it's so cool. you put the tape in. it's the way my brain works. >> you like that old-fashioned stuff? >> yeah, and dvds too, we had to have a dvd thing. editors, everyone looking through it all, trying to find these little nuggets of good stuff, i guess. i still don't even really know what's in the doc. >> jimmy: yeah, well -- you watched it, though, right? >> yes, i did, but with dylan. i was really focused on dylan and brendan set up this whole screening for us. part of me was more concerned about him, how he was feeling. i mean, i saw it. >> jimmy: what about your parents who live with you? have they seen it yet? >> no. >> jimmy: they have not? >> no. >> jimmy: do you think they will see it? >> well, my mom's read the book. that was enough. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: that was -- yeah. >> you know, it's hard. it's hard. because i think that's what we do, human nature, to stuff these things in the past. try not to think about them again. and unfortunately, they said having a famous daughter is a real pain in the neck. >> jimmy: they said that? >> yeah, because then i wrote a book. >> jimmy: yeah, right, yeah. but there's also a pretty nice house there too. >> exactly. i mean, yeah.

there's good and bad. balance. >> jimmy: right yeah. no book, no house. >> exactly. [ laughter ] >> you're right, you're right. i always worry. >> jimmy: you have done so many things. and it's really interesting to go back. i feel like there were, like, big things you've done that weren't even in the documentary. you've done so many things over the years. just your origin story is just crazy, that you're at this canadian football league game and they spot you in the audience. and everybody's like, whoa! and then suddenly labatts, the beer company, says "put on one of our shirts." then you -- >> "playboy" called. >> jimmy: "playboy" phoned you in this tiny little place that you live. >> it was my first plane ride to get here. >> jimmy: that was crazy. they wouldn't let you in the country, either. >> no. >> jimmy: your passport -- you were honest, a big mistake. >> i showed them my "playboy" letterhead, "i'm going to be in playboy!" "oh, no, you're not." i was really proud of it. bad idea.

>> jimmy: you had to circle back and take a bus into seattle from vancouver, right? >> yep yeah. >> jimmy: on the bus they ask no questions. >> they don't ask any questions. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: it's pretty crazy. then you wind up doing all these things. on "home improvement," on "vip," "baywatch," of course. that stuff is fantastic to look back at that stuff, isn't it? [ cheers and applause ] >> yes, i love "baywatch." that was fun. and i was on your show. i think i've been on your show 14 times. >> jimmy: 14 times? >> someone told me that yesterday, i didn't believe them. i don't remember any of them. [ laughter ] i saw in the hallway. >> jimmy: wow, that surprises me. i would have guessed four or talked to. >> jimmy: they're probably right. i remember things about as well as you do. now what we're going to do is test your memory. >> oh, good, okay. >> jimmy: now we've taken some lines from some shows/movies,

and we went to the farmers' market where a lot of older people congregate. >> oh, boy. >> jimmy: and we asked -- >> okay. >> jimmy: -- to read these lines. your job is going to be to guess whether it's something you said or not. okay? >> okay. >> jimmy: and here we go, let's start with the first one. >> we're gonna stimulate your juices until you burst. >> jimmy: okay, now, did i say that, pamela anderson? >> it sounds like something i thought. i don't know if i said it. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: we're gonna stimulate your juices until you burst. >> i probably said that. >> jimmy: let's find out. >> we're going to stimulate your juices till your burst. >> i thought it sounded familiar. [ applause ] >> jimmy: all right, so you -- next up? >> hey, do girls still smoke in the bathroom? we used to smoke up a storm back then. >> jimmy: do girls still smoke in the bathroom? we used to smoke up a storm back then. >> no. >> jimmy: you do not think so? >> do girls still smoke up a bathroom?

>> girls still smoke in the bathroom? we used to smoke up a storm back then. >> jimmy: that was louie anderson who said that. you're doing very well so far. >> 2 for 2. i just did my documentary and my book, i do know a little bit about my life. [ laughter ] >> you wanna do it in the alley? >> jimmy: do you want to do it in the alley? >> do you want to do it in the alley? >> yeah, sure i did. maybe i did. maybe not. >> you want to do it in the alley? >> yeah. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: we got two more. >> die, grandma. die, die, die. >> no, i wouldn't say. >> die, grandma, die, die! >> die, die, die! >> jimmy: no that's not you. >> oh my gosh, i have such a good memory. i'm shocking myself. >> jimmy: you're for 4 for 4. >> what do i get, a balloon animal? >> yes. >> call me old-fashioned but if you're going to be in bed with two women, one of them better be me.

[ laughter ] >> i've definitely thought that too, probably. i'll say yes, i said it, but i don't think so. i don't know. >> call me old-fashioned but if you're going to be in bed with two women, one of them better be me! [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: wow. perfect. the perfect score. that's never happened before. >> that's never happened before? >> jimmy: yeah, congratulations. >> i'm surprising people all time lately. [ laughter ] it's amazing. you know when you have nothing but surprise people constantly. >> jimmy: all that alone time in the island is suiting you well. >> is. thank you. >> jimmy: do you think you'll ever get married again? >> got, what a crazy question. i don't know. i hope so. >> jimmy: you hope so? you want to get married again? >> i mean, i hope so. i don't know. you don't -- i still have a lot of life let. >> jimmy: have you ever met mike lindell from mypillow? [ laughter ] >> i don't even know who that is. >> jimmy: well, you're going to find out next. >> oh no. >> jimmy: yeah, well, don't worry. you can leave. >> okay, great. [ laughter ] i miss you.

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♪ >> jimmy: music from fall out boy is on the way. of all the colorful, unhinged characters who have come to prominence in the political era of donald trump, our next guest is probably the most enthusiastic. to help him to overcome his debilitating fear of machines, we have installed him inside a claw machine for his interview tonight. joining us now from the corner of donkey kong and q-bert, the mypillow guy, mike lindell. hello, mike! >> timmy crumble, is that you? >> jimmy: it's me. >> hey, jimmy.

>> jimmy: well, mike, first question, why do you think people don't take you seriously? [ laughter ] >> well, you know, i want to tell you this, jimmy. remember we were kids and we questioned these kind of games, whether they were rigged or not? >> jimmy: yeah, right. >> but when we spoke up back then, we didn't get sued, did we? >> jimmy: no, that's right. hey, mike, get rid of that kid, will you give him a toy or something like that? >> here you go, we got a winner. it's a rigged game, a rigged game, rigged game. >> jimmy: i know you're distrustful of machines. now that you're inside one, do you feel differently? >> no, same thing. computers can be rigged out there in elections, absolutely. you know that. >> jimmy: did you ask donald trump whether you should do this or not? do you run this sort of thing by him? >> no, i didn't. i did this all on my own. i wanted to be on your show. you kept telling me to go on, the monologue, you said it's to put me in there because it's unvaccinated. you tricked me. you did it to be funny, huh?

>> jimmy: no, i didn't want you in there because you weren't vaccinated. to be honest, i don't know why i decided you should be in there. [ laughter ] >> you said it on your show. >> jimmy: it seemed like a good idea when it happened. i have to say, i very surprised when you said you would do it. you said yes, so you know, i'm honoring that commitment that i made on the air. [ laughter ] last week, mike, you actually -- during the weekend, you ran for chairman of the republican national committee. this is the committee that is kind of in charge of fund-raising, it decides where the money goes, it's a very powerful group. >> correct. >> jimmy: you seemed, by my count, very confident that you had a chance to win this thing. let's look at the tape. >> i'm running for chairman of the rnc. and i plan on winning. and you know what? i plan on winning. i want to win that rnc chair. ahead in every single poll out there. i'm 100% all in. when i go all in, i go all in to win. i just want to win, everybody.

not only am i going to win, it's going to change real fast. >> are you confident that you can win? >> yeah, absolutely. a lot of them are going, do you think you can win? do you think you can win? of course i'm going to win. >> mike, some of the polls show you winning this. >> oh, yeah, yeah, they all do. >> jimmy: now mike, the poll actually did show you as the favorite, right? the rasmussen poll. >> that's correct, yep. >> jimmy: then this happened. >> mike lindell received four votes. ha harmet dillon received 51 votes. ronna mcdaniel received 111 votes. >> jimmy: does this seem like an indication maybe your barometer when it comes to voting is off? [ laughter ] >> no, what it seems like is that the rnc, that their representatives didn't listen to the people of our country that wanted a change in the rnc leadership. [ laughter ] because i was the top of all the polls. i almost doubled both of them in the rasmussen report, which came out last thursday, the day before the vote. so, you know, i didn't realize

that they, you know -- that they would -- i could think that they would have went with what the people wanted. because they represent the people. >> jimmy: do you believe this was a rigged election too? >> no, absolutely not, jimmy. because there was no machines involved. it was paper ballots, hand counted. >> jimmy: right. okay. so -- you lost. you would have lost either way, i guess, is what you're saying? [ laughter ] >> well, i don't know. if i've had had machines, somebody could have fiddled with the numbers, right? >> jimmy: you distrust machines. does that extend to sewing machines? yeah tell me, like -- what about ice machines? are you okay with those? [ laughter ] >> jimmy, you know what, i'm -- you know, you can make fun of that, but we know the machines i'm talking about are voting machines. computers used in elections. because we want to have elections and not selections. >> jimmy: so not like the george foreman lean mean grilling machine would not be on the list of your things to melt down and make into prison bars? >> no, just the voting machines. we've got enough of them to meltdown into prison bars. >> jimmy: gloria estefan and the

miami sound machine, they're cool, right? >> what's that? >> jimmy: i said, gloria estefan and the miami sound machine. [ laughter ] >> i can't hear you, i can't hear you. >> jimmy: sorry, turns out you're locked inside a claw machine. [ applause ] you know, one of the differences between you and the claw machine is claw machines let go. and you will not let go of this voting thing, will you? >> never. i want to save -- i want to help save our country. and i love our country. i love the people in our country. and we've got to get rid of the computers in our elections. >> jimmy: mike, i have to tell you -- and i mean this sincerely -- i believe that you believe this stuff. i believe that you are really convinced that -- i mean, the evidence that you've presented is nonsensical. but i do believe that you are convinced that there is some kind of a conspiracy or

malfunction or whatever the case may be. i don't believe that donald trump believes that. i think donald trump is lying when he says he thinks the election was rigged. i think giuliani is lying when he says it. i think kari lake is lying. i think for them, these are just excuses for losing an election. what do you say to that? >> well, i say, jimmy, no judge in the united states has looked at the evidence. they've all kicked the can on standing. no one has ever looked at the evidence based on merit -- >> jimmy: isn't that -- >> i keep sounding the alarm until somebody looks at it. we gave it to the facebook fact checker, alan duke. he looked at it, and now he just went away because he knows it was true -- >> jimmy: but the supreme court -- >> i'll give the evidence to you. we'll come back two months later. i'll pay for your cyber guy, if the show can't afford it. [ laughter ] we'll help him check it out. you're getting a big audience tonight, so you could afford it. >> mike -- mike, you see that little girl with the overalls on?

theruyuger [ applause ] >> looking good, looking good. >> jimmy: how much has this crusade cost you personally, mike? >> over $40 million. and that's counting building your great network you watch all the time, jimmy. >> jimmy: that's right. >> lindell tv, that's part of the cost. >> jimmy: i'm your number one fan, that's for sure. >> yes, you are. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: there's no question about that. you -- your mypillows used to be in costco, used to be in walmart, used to be in macy's, bed, bath & beyond -- >> where the heck are they? hello? hello? where the heck are we? hello? where the heck -- [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: oh my goodness, it's another mike lindell. >> no, jimmy, it's jimmy crumble, i can't handle it right now. i don't got time for you. i'm looking for the law offices of dave & buster's. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: mike, dave & busters isn't a law firm, it's like a chuck e. cheese for adults who enjoy wrestling. >> well i'm bein' sued for

$1.3 billion and i need some representation. so it's right here -- ah, ah! jigglin' jehoshaphat! how did i get in there? what kinda dark magic is at play? >> jimmy: mike, you agreed to be -- one of the mikes agreed to be interviewed in a claw machine. >> i knew it! it's the machines! the antifa chinese demo-crazies trapped me inside! don't worry, you sweet boy. i got a pillowcase full of quarters right here. here, try the machine, it's rigged, it's rigged! >> jimmy: you can't put -- they take credit cards, they don't take pillowcases, mike. >> self-defense! it's a self-defense technique. >> jimmy: okay, all right. >> i'm not going to use no card on these. it's a rigged machine. you're jamming up, the door's not going to work, i just need another bag of pillows. >> you're winning, you're winning, you're winning! >> jimmy: you have another pillowcase of quarters?

>> i eat my suppers outta vendin' machines. you know that as much as i do. shield your eyes! i'm coming for ya! i'm going to get you back in that ice hole real quick. i'm about to smash this crab grabber to smithereens! >> jimmy: all right. don't hurt mike. can security please get the other mike lindell out of this? [ laughter ] >> come on! [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: mike, one more thing. have you met this guy, george santos? >> no. >> jimmy: what do you think of him? >> is that the guy that was just here? [ laughter ] >> jimmy: no that's a different guy. all right, mike. well, thank you, mike. [ applause ] you know what? i have to say, one thing about you is you are definitely committed. you should probably be committed, to be honest with you. [ laughter ] mike lindell, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] the mypillow guy. we'll be right back with fall out boy.

>> thanks for having me on, jimmy. [ cheering and applause ] >> lou: the "jimmy kimmel live" concert series is presented by mercedes-benz. the all-electric mercedes-benz line-up is here.

>> lou: the "jimmy kimmel live" concert series is presented by mercedes-benz. the all-electric mercedes-benz line-up is here. >> jimmy: another dumb show.ntor i mike lindell, james adomian. apologies to matt damon. we did run out of time for him. "nightline" is next, but first, their album "so much for stardust" is out march 24th. here with the song "heartbreak feels so good," fall out boy! [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ ♪ no matter what they tell you the future's up for grabs no ♪ ♪ no matter what they sell you is there a word for "bad miracle" ♪ ♪ nobody said the road was endless nobody said the road was friendly ♪ ♪ but could we please pretend this won't end it was a ♪ ♪ uphill battle but they didn't

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