>> building a better bay area, moving forward, finding solutions, this is abc 7 news. >> hello there -- kristen your watching getting answers on abc seven. we get answers in real-time, today everyone is using the ai chart but c -- chat bot chat gpt. is it sexist? we talked to the founder of textio after she put chat gpt to the test. >> california is one of the 10 states in the country that does not require schools to screen children for being dyslexic.

we talk about a new push for earlier screenings. first the race is on to replace senator dianne feinstein who announced yesterday at age 89 that she will not seek reelection next year. her long tenure as california's senior senator is coming to an end. joining us like to share her thoughts is former colleague and still friends with similar -- senator feinstein, barbara boxer. nice to see you. >> nice to see you as well. kristen: have you talked to her yesterday, today or recently about this decision? >> i just sent her an email about it. i have talked to her in the past about the fact that there is a wonderful life awaiting her after the senate. people want to hear from her. what it was like to be a trouble is. -- trail blazer. when i wanted to leave iran in

20 -- i ran in 20 out the term until 2017 and i'm still doing my stuff. kristen: that is great, you certainly broke a lot of ground and glass ceilings together, didn't you? can you talk about how you came to office shortly after her? at that time how unheard-of and improbable it was for two women to represent a big state like california? >> we got elected to the united states senate on the very same day in 1992 . we got elected together. it was one of those unusual situations where two seats were up at the same time. i cannot tell you the prejudiced that we faced. it was crazy. people would tell me i can vote for diane, but i cannot vote for two women. i cannot vote for two jewish women. i cannot vote for two jewish women from the bay area. we kinda kept our poise about

it, we had jokes we made. i would say, were you worried when two protestant men got elected? with that worried you? >> there were only two's women in the senate when we got there. she would say, 2% might be good for the fat content of milk but is not enough for the usa. i would say no is the time for chicken soup. we would try to not get angry about it, i do want to say this. she was by far the more popular candidate. people her from her time as mayor. they knew her because she had run for governor. she did not make it but she rented great campaign. when she ran for the senate she was way ahead. i was really in a tough race. she took my hand and essentially held it through the entire race. we campaigned together. i will never forget that kindness.

others might say, i do not want to be with a loser, she did not look at me that way. we both won and became the first two women ever elected to the united states senate from one state. after that happened several others followed suit. now we have 25% of the people in the senate are women. from 2% and restarted -- from when we started. kristen: i like the milk that way when it is 25% fat. maybe that is heavy whipping cream. that was the year of the women at that time. you came in, i want to ask you, he did not seek reelection in 2016. you retired. your senate career was with senator feinstein as a senior senator, can you help us understand that for people who may not truly know? >> of course, as i said we got

elected the same day. she got sworn in a couple months for me. because it was a special auction. -- election. she had the seniority forever. th senior senat ahough we got electethalthough we did not agrn certain things, we came with different styles, different backgrounds, different views on certain issues. when it came to california we were joined at the hip. we worked really well together. we knew we had to. there were reporters who were waiting for us to have arguments. seriously. they would say, women connected along. kristen: a cat fight or something like that, right? >> exactly, there was one reporter in the southern california news giver that did a calm and had a profile -- newspaper, the did a calm that it profile of us. how on occasion we voted differently. tried to stir it up.

i went to the newspaper and said, would you do that to two men, had you ever done that? they admitted that they did not and they cut it out. what i can say about her is her tenacity. she wraps a hold of an issue she believes in -- grabs a hold of an issue she believes in and she will keep on keeping on until she gets it. it is a lesson to all of us. sometimes we give up too easily. when you have an issue, there will always be half the people that love it and have probably do not -- half probably do not. they try to shut you down. she did not let that happen. a lot of us learn from her tenacity. also, bouncing back from tragedy after tragedy. having seen a friend and emir assassinated --a mayor assassinated. picking up the pieces there, and her husband, and then pick bloom -- dick blum.

stuff that broker helped -- broke her heart. that is what she is about. kristen: you talked about the tragedy that launched her career, got her into the mayor's office with milk and miss connie, the -- bus goni, the assassinations. we had the one in california, the mass shooting that propelled her to the biggest legacy in the assault weapons van past -- ban passed in 1994. she is trying to get it done again after 20 years it expired. can she get it done again and the politics of today? >> first, let me say it was devastating, one of my son's best friends was killed and that murder. we were just devastated. joe biden was the head of the judiciary committee and he said

to senator feinstein. diane, nothing will get the 60 votes. as soon as you get it we will bring it to the floor and included in the crime bill. we will make it law. she never gave up. we worked it. i remember, i am only about five feet. she is many inches taller. i would say to her, i will take the short senators you take the tall senators, let's go. we did everything we could. she. was a leader on that. she was exceptional. unfortunately it could only last ofpr -- for 10 anyone that respects diane or cares for her, a lot of folks in the senate, both sides of the aisle should step up and support the assault weapon's ban and make it her lasting -- >> we will see if that gets done. i have some breaking news to tell you about. since we came on the air, it was just made official,

congresswoman barbara lee is also getting into this race. i did not know if you knew that before the rest of us. what do you think about it? we have her, adam schiff, katie porter. >> it is a good flores. it is beautiful -- it is a beautiful race. it is beautiful. people have someone they can reach out to, feel comfortable with. i daresay we may have more in the race. i am not surprised about this. i knew about this. i knew about adam. these are exceptional people. each one will bring amazing experience and leadership to the race. i am so happy because, the senate is such a privilege to serve their. -- there. you need good people to serve. you need people to do something, not be something. do not run there to be a

senator, do it -- we have so many issues. we need the best and the brightest. we have them running. it is exciting. kristen: i am told and might your we are out of time. i have to ask you this in case senator feinstein is watching. are you loving retirement? what do you spend your time enjoy? >> i am not retired as the most important thing. i give speeches on the women's right to choose. helping in the health care space. i taught a class at usc and i am an advisor there. it goes on. i do a little tv thing twice a month here in southern california. when i was eight or is, it is what i would say to her is that it is life, it is good, i am in charge of my life now.

kristen: thank you so much for stopping by. senator boxer, appreciated. good to see it. speaking of the race, congressman adam schiff stop by abc7news today to talk about his candidacy. we will have that story on abc7news at 5:00 and 6:00. you probably tried chat gpt. like people, the chat but can -- bot can be sexist. i'm jonathan lawson here to tell you about life insurance through the colonial penn program. if you're age 50 to 85, and looking to buy life insurance on a fixed budget, remember the three ps. the three what? the three ps? what are the three ps? the three ps of life insurance on a fixed budget are price, price, and price. a price you can afford, a price that can't increase,

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-- concerns about biases are there. does it discriminate against women? does the text is spits out reflect stereotypes that can cause harm? joining us now is the ceo and cofounder of a seattle-based ai powered augmented writing platform. thank you so much for joining us karen. >> glad to be here. >> what is your software aimed at? >> businesses use it to write inclusively to advance eei efforts for workplace communication -- dei efforts for workplace munication. >> you put the popular to the gender bias test. how did you set up? >> people right with gender bias

all the time, that is why they look to software to help solve these problems. i dove into take a look at some of the things our partners right. things like feedback at work or job posts to see if some of the same biases people have in the right shows up. sure enough it did not disappoint. kristen: let's look at some examples that you provided to us. here is one where you enter a simple prompt, right be back for an unusually strong construction worker, what did you get? >> it was the assumption that any unusually strong construction worker was a man. depending on the job type you ask for feedback for, chat gpt makes assumptions about gender. for construction workers 100% of the props came back as male. kristen: not the case with a bully deception nests. -- bubbly receptionist.

you visited -- you can see the chat bot came back with she. i want to get to this next graphic that is interesting. chat gpt seems to link certain jobs women and other with -- others with men, explained this. >> the bias it writes is effective of the training data underneath the chat bot experience. we see walls like kindergarten teacher or mechanic where the underlying training data is making assumptions about gender, what do you get when you ask chat gpt to write is of same assumptions push forward. kristen: really the problem is the material it is trained on. given that you cannot go out there and change everything that is out there on the internet, what you do? >> we know what open ai is trying to do with chat gpt as

cases are pointed out to them, like the famous case over the last couple of weeks where the chat bot is writing differently about donald trump or joe biden. they will add a rule to detect issues with the props. unfortunately that does not change the underlying training data. you cannot add a rule of every possible circumstance of bias. if you ask chat gpt to write a job posts to help you hire a black engineer it will do so. if you ask for a job post for a white engineer it will push back on the prompt. it is added a will the case of the white engineer but not in the black engineer. kristen: you found that when you are more specific in your prompt, let's say you put man or woman in your prompt, you found that chat gpt still had biases at work in the form of how many words they return. what is this year?

-- what is this year? >> if you use female name of the prompt, chat gpt rights more feedback. the additional words are critical in nature about 90% of the time. if you use a traditionally or conventionally mail name to get less feedback overall and a -- male name you get less feedback overall in the higher proportion is less positive in nature. kristen: in what ways could this harm real people? >> it is a great question. real people are already being harmed by bias in the workplace. managers try to give they can to unbiased feedback and real-time. we all carry biases that of the product of our own appearances. was software that carries as biases forward has the potential to do is magnify and multiply the problem beyond what one

individual in drew carey forward on their own. kristen: in terms of its inclusive language, want to show you an example we prompted it to rewrite with less bias. tells how this became more equitable and less bias in the rewrite? >> it did not. after looking at the first round of performance feedback in chat gpt we asked the bot to lies in his own writing. we want to see what happened -- bias in its own writing. it just uses more advanced vocabulary, making the writing more formal. unfortunately still biased. kristen: i kept reading it over and over, it made them seem more educated and mature, but i did not see a change in tone. thank you so much for joining

us, we appreciate the conversation. >> thank you so much>> . kristen: coming up next, california's governor may be dyslexic but our state does not require a screening of kids for the learning disability. you go by lots of titles veteran, son, dad. -it's time to get up. -no. hair stylist and cheerleader. so adding a “student” title might feel overwhelming. what if a school could be there for all of you?

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kristen: california is one of only 10 states that does not requires schools to screen students for dyslexia. experts say early detection is key. why have we not been doing it? joining us is a state senator who is dyslexic and has tried to offer legislation for universal screenings. we have the codirector of the uc fs dyslexic -- thank you for joining us. what is to succeed and how common is it? -- what is dyslexia and how common is it? >> and isolated difficult he

with the written aspects of language. reading and writing. it is of neurobiological origin. that happens in the context of adequate education opportunities and in the presence of typical intelligence skills. reading and writing are skills we need to teach to our students -- children. adequate teaching is fundamental to defining a child as having difficulties or having dyslexia. kristen: i am wondering if you have an idea of what age is ideal for screening. why do a screening? why not just let parents notice symptoms and seek out a doctor? >> yes, i mean, research has shown us we can identify children at risk. not diagnose them, but identify them at risk for dyslexia very early on.

reading and writing are based on our linguist skills. although we would not though we assessed a child for efficiency and reading it 4, 5, 6 we can -- distinction one sound from another. manipulating sounds and associating them with written letters. those pre-reading skills we can identify early. we can look at profiles of strengths and weaknesses. interventions have shown to be more effective early on. we want to do this early. we also want to prevent children from feeling inadequate or not intelligence -- intelligent and having social emotional consequences. kristen: i know you have personal experience. you have dyslexia. that has prompted you to write legislation to get the screenings through.

talk about your personal expense and white has not gone anywhere yet in terms of mandatory screenings? kristen: the question you asked before is the most important one. yes the screenings at -- make a difference. there is a huge social justice component. there are families so in tune with their kids that if they sneeze there in a doctor's office. there are hard-working families it is not -- that do not see their child struggling in school or have the wherewithal to get them to a pediatrician. in my case my mom was a single mom. i did not find out of was in the 8th grade that had a learning disability. summary people have said they are in high school before they were told why they were having a problem reading. the good doctor said if you know early can intervene with strategies. it is more effective, cheaper, better for the student to get a handle on this as early as

possible in their academic experience. it is mind-boggling that california does not screen and we are one of a handful of states that does not do it. kristen: we are one of a handful and what -- and that is with senator governor newsom in dyslexic. lawmakers have put some money into this. funding research, teacher training, hiring literacy coaches. where the main opposition arguments against this and how will you try to overcome that? >> there are three arguments being made. one, there is a search for the perfect tool. frankly that has gone on for five years. we know there are other states using adequate tools already. using existing models out there. in my opinion every first grade class would not start screen is a first grade class we have not intervened properly. you never get it back. we are waiting perfect to be the enemy of the good.

there are people i do not want to be trained to do this. that is also frustrating. we have, as you pointed out, money in the budget to do this. should mandate that happens. the third is the most important question or concern. around english learners. we want to make sure that whatever tool we use is linguistically sensitive. we built those protections into the bill and we know there are other border states with other pop that high populations of english learners able to do this efficiently. is the right question asked if we will be linguistically sensitive. unfortunately the opposition does not like our answer. yes we are and we will improve those kids. kristen:

kristen: thank you so much for joining us for getting answers today tonight, emotional outbursts in court. the gunman in the racist killing of ten black people at a grocery store in buffalo sentenced to life in prison. anger erupting as families confronted payton gendron, a man charging at him. officers rushing him out of the courtroom. family members sobbing as the judge read the names of each of his victims. sentencing him to life without parole for every hate-filled murder. the judge tilling him, quote, there can be no mercy for you. aaron ka ster ski in the courtroom. tonight, tracking a major winter storm. 25 states on alert for heavy snow and rain, wind, and possible tornadoes. severe storms from texas to alabama to ohio through tomorrow. rob marciano timing it all out. breaking news.

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