♪ ♪ >> how many years have your daughter's been missing? >> when we met each other. >> believe it or not, two years. >> rob mcleod and barb are part of the club nobody wants to join. fathers of adult women who have gone missing. to speak of these two still grieving fathers joined forces to find their daughters. >> i was really losing hope she was going to show up on her own. >> that's when they told me that there where more than other people missing. >> describe jennifer marcon. 25 years old, a single mom. >> she was, she lived in denver. about 20 miles south of where

kaysi disappeared. >> he look them in the eye and said your daughter is dead and i know where she's buried. >> i had a chill run down my spine. >> did you really, really, really know how my daughter died? >> at this point, we knew we had a serial killer on her hands, but has he tried to kill before? >> i remember screaming stop the car, why aren't you stopping? grabbing me by my face and pushing me by my face. >> he went like this? >> i thought i was going to lose my brother. i've never been so scared in my life. ♪ ♪ >> this is the story of someone

who was so charismatic and yet so deviant that they were able to manipulate the system to conceal horrific crimes. and in the process, they inflicted excruciating pain on those who cared for and trusted. but more than anything, it was up a trail of those closest to this person. and the theft of what we all cherish most. the lives of those we love. i've had a 35 year career telling stories and every so often, there is one that haunts me. this is one of them. it's a story i first covered almost two decades ago and it begins as a heartbreaking tale of a missing teenager. >> good evening, and welcome to "20/20". >> back in 2008, i began looking into the story, that's when i first spoke to lori mcleod to come of the divorced mother of a beautiful girl, the light of her

life. >> she was happy all the time, smelled all the time. >> this was lori back then. this is her today. >> kaysi was beautiful and sweet. she was a peacekeeper, she didn't make waves. >> in 2003, lori mcleod was living with her daughter kaysi, who was 19. >> i just lived my life with my daughter and i worked a lot. very simple life, and i liked it that way. >> she was mid-30s at that point, divorced from her husband, rob. >> in spite of the divorce and the drama between her mom and i, kaysi was a very bubbly, happy-go-lucky kid. she really was a special kid. >> as kaysi grows into a teenager, laurie's got a little more free time and she enjoys doing a little gambling at a nearby casino.

boston five poker, that's our game. >> i was playing a card game. and he walked in. >> scott kimball met lori mcleod when they both went to a casino up in black hawk. scott was wheeling in his mother, barb, and a wheelchair. and they all sit at the same poker table. >> he's moving chairs for her so she could play cards, and i thought, well, what a nice guy. you know, he's taking care of his mother. and we just started chatting at the table. >> what did he tell you about himself in that first meeting? >> he said he worked for the fbi. scott was nice and he was pleasant and he laughed and he was funny. all of the things a woman looks for. >> and lori believed after many false starts that this could finally be the man of her dre dreams. >> scott kimball is 36-year-old and divorced. he's a burly, outdoorsy type of guy with a goatee and an

engaging smile. guys like him and women find him charming. in fact, long before lori, kimball was married to a woman named larissa. >> in 1993, scott married larissa and they settled in spokane, washington. >> for the first time in public, mr. and mrs. scott and larissa kimball. >> they had two boys together. >> i was three months pregnant when we got married. justin was born soon after. and then two and a half years later we had cody. i just thought that we would be the perfect family. >> kimball is often away from home working for long stretches, but he always takes time to be with his sons. justin and cody, and he makes them feel special. >> happy birthday to you.

happy birthday to you. >> justin, look up here. what do you think of that? >> pirate ship! >> we would go paint bawling, we would do go carts, we go out to eat almost like every single night. >> when i sat down with justin for this exclusive interview, he told me he would need to wear sunglasses to protect his eyes from our bright lights. it's because of a traumatic brain injury that he suffered as a child. but that's its own story which he will share later for the first time. >> my dad was very big on trying to spoil us and just see how happy he can make us by just buying us whatever he wanted. >> he was a great dad. he was everything in a dad that i wanted growing up. >> justin and cody were too small to see this come about them whole time the marriage itself was not strong. >> i found out that he was

dating and actually living with another woman. >> in 1996, larissa filed for divorce and four years later, she and their two boys moved to the colorado area. >> by 2002, scott kimball is also living and working in colorado. once again, near his boys, just in and cody. a year later, he moves in with lori macleod. >> scott kimball is living with lori mcleod at her house in lafayette. they are getting quite close during this period and larissa is living at the house as well with her mother. now this new man who's entered her mother's life. where they lived together was a rural area that was largely ran checks, mostly prairie land. >> scott had two boys of his own, just in and cody. and they come to visit. >> yes, i love his voice. >> and his boys loved her daughter?

>> oh, yeah, there were great with kaysi too. having two little brothers was fun for her. >> how did he act around casey was back >> he acted like the guy everybody would be looking for to be in their child's life. >> unfortunately, kaysi is struggling. her mom's divorce seems to be taking a heavy emotional toll. >> when she was in her later teens come amid teams, she was kind of getting rebellious. ran with the wrong crowd, doing the wrong things. >> kaysi had been into the drugs, ran away, but you seem to be coming back into and laurie hoped she would become. >> this video was shot at kaysi's high school graduation. it was a time full of hope and promise. >> i wi really do something with my life after this. it so i just really wanted to thank you for inviting me. >> she found a new boyfriend,

cb, they were both working at subway and she ncb were serious. they were even talking about marriage at the time. >> she was trying to get her life kind of back. >> labor day of 2003, what did you believe that kaysi was doing drugs? >> scott brought a vial of something with white substance in it, chunky white substance. >> crack cocaine or something like that? >> yes, and he said i think kaysi's in trouble again. and so when i approached her and asked her if she was doing drugs again, she swear she was not. i didn't believe her. >> so you told her you're going to take her to the police? >> yes, i did. >> so what happened? >> so i went and got my wallet, and scott came in the house and i said we are kaysi? and he said she's outside i said i'm very certain she will take off and sure enough she did.

>> in the late summer of 2003, kaysi disappears. if lori mcleod is understandably upset b by the spirit >> she was nowhere to be found at that point. >> after a few days, you get a call from kaysi, writes? what did she say? >> she said, i am sorry and i love you. i told her eye loved her, and that was the last thing we said to each other. >> you ever thought about joining the fbi? >> i'm so glad we are in the same class. ♪ it's the most wonderful time of the year ♪ it's spring!

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>> one of the first indications kaysi went missing, is lori give us a very panicked phone call on that kaysi had run away. >> no kaysi insistently drugs her mom's boyfriend scott kimball, finds don't belong to her, but her mom lori isn't buying it. so kaysi takes off to avoid the police and she meets up with her boyfriend cb. >> i was more angry at her then concerned. you know, i was praying for her to get her act together and to come home, but in the back of my mind i was a little bit more unhappy with her. >> kimball is able to locate kaysi and her boyfriend, cb, offering them a temporary haven to cool off. >> so, scott finds kaysi, find cb, and puts them up in a motel six. >> and her boyfriend lived there

for suffered eggs, unbeknownst to lori. >> tells them, stay away from lori, because she's mad and she'll turn you into the cops. >> on august boyfriend give her an engagement necklace and she was headed to work. >> cb comes, kisses kaysi goodbye, and cb puts their engagement necklace, the one that he bought her come around her neck, says i love you. >> scott shows up at the motel 6 and offers to take kaysi to her job at the subway sandwich shop. she gets in the car and off they go to her shift at subway. >> so subway calls a couple hours later, both lori and cb, because kaysi didn't show up for work. they call each other, confused because they have two different

stories. cb says, scott took her to work. lori says, no, scott's out hunting. >> lorries of course a bit confused because kimball had told her he was going to go elk hunting for a few days and wouldn't have been around. >> when scott returns from his hunting trip, he is confronted by cb, casey's boyfriend who insists that he saw kaysi get into a truck with scott at the motel 6, and he says, where is she? >> scott had picked kaysi up and cb had seen it. cb confronted him about where kaysi was. scott denied picking kaysi up and said he didn't know what cb was talking about. >> when i confronted scott about picking her up to take her to work, he said, cb's lying. >> did he appear supportive

while kaysi was missing? >> absolutely. it lets go looking for her. it lets drive around. with my connections, we'll find her. scott went with me to the police. so when i am describing my missing daughter, he's giving information that she had been on drugs before and that she had left before. the police said, we are looking for her because she's 19 and she's allowed to be missing. >> and remember, since kimball is working with the fbi, lori is convinced he's the only one who can help. >> scott and i had planned to go to las vegas before kaysi went missing. i wanted to cancel. and he said, she's an adult, she will come home when she's ready. ♪ ♪ when we get there, it was just as heavy push, you need me, let's get married. you know, i can help you. nobody else is going to help you. at the police made that very

clear that they won't help you find her. basically, he was eight. he was my only hope of getting her back. >> lori was dazed and distraught at her daughter's disappearance, and in addition, scott said that he was an fbi agent and nobody would know better how to find kaysi then him. >> it was a drive-through wedding chapel where i think you can get french fries with your marriage certificate. ♪ ♪ >> for the honeymoon, scott takes lori up to the mountains. and it's in the walden area and says, you just need to relax for a day. >> we went camping for our honeymoon. colorado mountains are beautiful and just some peaceful surroundings. and he took off on his four wheeler to go scouting for a hunting spot.

♪ ♪ >> days later, it appears that rob and lori mcleod's prayers have finally been answered. >> when i came home, her necklace was hanging on her bedroom door. and that, to everyone, was a sign that she had been there. her necklace was a gift from cb, her boyfriend. i was very happy that she was coming by, even if i wasn't there, that just knowing that she was okay. >> and scott points to that and says, they are, now that is proof that she still around. and she's leaving you clues. >> it's a glimmer of hope, but months pass with no other signs from kaysi. at what the holidays fast approaching, lori and rob slip back into despair. >> christmases where the mile marker i guess, because christmas eve especially at our house, ended up being a big deal. i remember the first christmas,

she's only missing a few months, and wondering if she's just going to show up. >> the 2003 holidays come and go and still, no kaysi. lori and rob are left with only empty chairs at their table and a bunch of presents that were never opened. >> the second christmas, was hoping she'd show up and really, really concerned that she hadn't. >> is a constant worry, is she hungry? does she have a coat? >> and then the third christmas, some things out. she should've shown up by now. i remember going to bed and like 10 minutes later, it's like midnight and the doorbell rings, and i just knew. and i just knew. ♪ ♪

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>> gary thatcher as a young detective with the lafayette police department. mostly he's dealing with white-collar crimes in this town where there's not a lot of cri crime. >> lafayette is just 30 minutes from denver, but it feels like a world away from the big city. >> this whole thing started with a call from a local bank about check forgery? >> in 2006, heritage bank reported that there was a check fraud and one of their customers had over $50,000 funneled out of his checking accounts. >> thatcher digs deeper into the apparent check fraud case, and it's clear someone is forging the bank customers checks. >> detective thatcher pulled surveillance video from the bank to see who might have been cashing those forged checks. sure enough, cameras capture a stocky, caucasian male with a goatee on numerous occasions cashing those fraudulent checks.

>> detective thatcher saw numerous checks made out to other rocky mountain all natural are rocky mount and cattle company. he did some investigation and found out the owner of rocky mount natural beef with scott kimball. >> scott kimball, the same man appearing on that bank surveillance video. >> we found out that he lives on the outskirts of lafayette. lori said that scott had taken off and that she didn't know where he was at. >> at this point, detective thatcher doesn't know what or who he's dealing with. and he wonders if maybe lori is covering for her husband? so thatcher invites her into answer a few questions. >> where you want me? >> you can sit wherever, it doesn't matter to me. >> we are were trying to decide whether or not lori was in on this, whether she wa was a suspt or what was her role in this beer >> any suspicions thatcher has about lori's involvement

disappears when lori it drops a bombshell that alters the course of the investigation. >> as she continues talking, she starts to tell me that scott kimball is an employee of the fbi. and so of course, i'm like, what you mean an employee of the fbi? why would an employee of the fbi be stealing, you know, $50,000 plus dollars in money from somebody? >> i knew there were pieces of scott's life that just didn't make sense. >> lori also mentions her daughter, kaysi. >> she believes that scott is going to use his connections with the fbi to help find her daughter, kaysi, who had gone missing in 2003. ♪ ♪ >> i have a suspect who is committing check fraud, finding out that he's potentially an employee of the fbi, and then now she also has a daughter that's missing. >> cb swears that scott's the one that picked her up from the hotel to take her to work and she hasn't been seen since. and to be perfectly honest, at

first, i thought scott knew where she was and that sort of why i kind of wanted him in my life. >> it was a lot to take in, especially when you're sitting down and you're expecting to just be talking about a check fraud bureau >> you must be wondering, is he an fbi agent or a con? >> it did not make sense he would be an fbi agent, but when lori was telling me was conflicting with that, given that you had a laptop with an fbi seal, he had a badge, he had a gun. >> where i'm right and now, it's just kind of gathering information from everybody trying to get a grasp on what's going on. >> he's not violent. >> he doesn't seem like he's the type of person to hurt anybody, but i think you might run. >> thatcher was expecting answers, but he was left with more questions. chief among them, is scott kimball actually an agent for the fbi or is he as funny as the checks he was cashing? >> detective thatcher wants to check the information of course,

and he calls the fbi. he eventually gets hold of special agent carle >> he quickly informs me that scott is actually an informant for them, a cooperating witness. >> thatcher is surprised to learn it's true. it kimball is working for the fbi as a paid to come a confidential informant. >> detective thatcher told me he was working on a white-collar case involving kimball. he asked me when i knew about kaysi's disappearance. thatcher says carl, are you aware that in fact kimball was the last person to see kaysi mcleod alive? >> i did not know that. i told him that. >> but it triggered another thought in his had to say that well, in fact, scott kimball was the last to see another woman who also disappeared into thousand three. >> so basically at that time, we

discussed, well, that's two women now that kimball was last seen alive. >> it's adjusted that scott was responsible for their disappearance, but we didn't know if they were alive or dead. ♪ ♪ receive a free bracelet valued up to $225 when you shop pandora

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she had a five year old named austin. >> to support herself and her son, she had begun dancing at an exotic bar name shotgun willies. she was a knock out, she was a type of other women that other strippers and be because all the men were all over if you're >> i didn't really like the fact that she was working there, but it was easier to make money there to try and provide a better life for her son. she took me to a coffee shop this one day. where they served sandwiches and java coffees and things. she was trying to open a place like that someday. >> before she disappears, jennifer is dating an man named steve ennis. >> steve ennis was a good-looking guy, a gym rat, the type of guy an attractive young woman like jennifer marcum could fall for it. >> this was the guy that she really loves. that she really cared about him.

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♪ ♪ >> at a motel outside of denver, jennifer marcum's mother, mary, is considering meeting with a mysterious fbi informant hoping to get more information about her missing daughter. but when he shows up, mary hesitates and calls her ex-husband bob. >> bob told her, "if you let that guy in your room, he will kill you." >> he bangs and yells saying, "i know you're in there." she still does not answer. they call security, and he ends up peeling out around the parking lot and leaving the hotel.

>> days later, bob's ex-wife mary calls the informant who and this time, she records the conversation. >> joe? >> yeah, this is joe. >> yeah, its mary. >> hey, mary, what's up? >> did you really, really, really know how my daughter died? >> you had your chance. >> i couldn't make you perform those things on me. the only thing that means a damn thing to me is my daughter. >> some things that i think are important are classified, and i will be in huge trouble if i tell you. i have to show you. i will see you later. bye-bye. >> joe? joe? >> it seems as if any leads about jennifer's whereabouts have dried up. but when bob met the informant in that park he had covertly taken a picture of his license plate. >> it belonged to scott kimball. >> i called up carl schlaff the

fbi agent, and i told him, "this guy killed my daughter." >> he felt campbell was more involved and i supported him on that. if she is a victim of the homicide, we have to find the body. >> by 2003, i put all the feelers i could on jennifer's disappearance. we interviewed countless people. we kind of had a good feeling that she was dead, but we didn't have anything to corroborate it. >> for investigators in colorado, what started out as a small check fraud case has exploded into something clearly larger. little do they know, they are just getting started. >> i first heard the name scott kimball in 2004. it was around this terrible accident where this young boy, justin, had been severely hurt. >> we've always called it an accident, but is not an accid

accident. >> whatever you call it, and have been back when scott was living with lori mcleod. his two sons, cody and justin, are visiting for the weekend. justice delmont justin was just ten years old at the time. >> on or about july 1st of 2004, justin had been in the house with lori, scott, and his younger brother, cody. >> they were outside playing. his dad, scott, told them to dig some holes. to try to catch some of the field mice. >> this was about at 10:00 at night. so he takes them out onto the property, which is about 5 acres or so, and then he has a shovel. >> are dead has this idea to go outside and hang out and play, which i thought was kind of cool, but i always thought it was a little weird because it was pretty late. >> dark -- >> definitely dark. yeah, a lot later than any of us usually play outside. >> you were ten years old, right? >> yeah, there was this big steel gray that was usually just

laying down on the dirt, but was propped up against a truck which i thought was a little weird. >> the cattle great was 8-10 feet long and they are guessing wait around 300 pounds. >> he set cody inside and then he told me that he wanted me to dig a hole specifically in a spot like where he pointed on the ground. >> right under the great? >> yeah, he told me to take this hole and he said i need you to look at the horizon and don't break your stare. be a good soldier and do what i say. >> all of a sudden, justin says he's digging and then he sees a bright light. >> i saw a bunch of stars flashes in front of me, and then a big wam. then i heard it hitting me. and i remember running back out the door and i just see my dad carrying my brother. i just see blood coming from justin. and he's in a lot of pain, and i was very scared that i don't know what's wrong with him. >> cody came outside and i just had a huge head injury. i could barely keep conscious.

and all of us trying to tell cody was, it's a trick. >> scott grabs justin, throws him in the car, and starts heading to the nearest hospital. justin is in a state of shock. >> i was trying to tell him i can't breathe, i need to sit up and rolled on the widow so i rolled down the window all the way and as i'm trying to use the door to pull myself up, that's when i feel the door open. and i remember screaming, stop the car, why aren't you stopp stopping? >> how fast was he going? >> oh, at least 60 miles per hour. what i do remember him pushing me out was by my face, because i remember how big his hand was and how warm it felt on my cold face. >> he went like this and pushed you out? >> his whole hand covered my face, it pushed me out that way. i was holding on, one leg right here, one arm right here, and the other leg was right here. and i just remembered screaming, telling him to stop the car. and it just kept going.

i just sort of accepted the fact that i was going to die right then and there, and i let go. i just remember thinking, this guy is going to kill me. and it is obviously making it look like an accident. no one's going to know because i'm going to be done. >> however, according to a police report, campbell has a very different version of the events telling officers he was inside the house when justin was playing on the steel great. he told them, he looked out and saw the large metal grate had fallen on top of justin. and as for the car ride to the hospital. >> scott said, i was trained to pull you back i in the car. but it's in on way to do it by putting your hand on his face instead of grabbing a coat or something. there were no break marks at the scene, and then allegedly scott just threw justin back in through the window. >> the police report goes on to

say that at this time, we have no reason to believe there was any criminal activity involved. >> i got a call on my cell phone from the hospital. we have your son here, he's in the e.r. we need you to come to the hospital. >> it must've been traumatizing for you. >> yes. the surgeon came in, and he said, i just want to tell you right now, it doesn't look good. >> justin had been severely hurt him a substantial brain damage. >> it's been about 16 years emma but to this day, i still have a hard time talking about my brother and that night. i thought i was going to lose my brother. i've never been so scared in my life. >> he was in a coma for a month, a chemically induced coma, and the whole family was standing around. >> there was a police officer

there. justin regains consciousness. >> and the first thing that he says. his why did dad do this to me? >> why did dad do this to me? >> why did dad do this to me? >> the people gathered around justin in his bed were wondering how could a father possibly have any motive to kill his son? >> and his investigators searched for answers, their case is about to get a whole lot bigger and a whole lot more terrifying. >> he says merry christmas. dig here. and boy, did we all dig.

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after "silence of the lambs." >> you don't take a guy that lies on his life >> w a deal with the devil. ♪ ♪ >> much to everyone's surprise, justin recovers. he's in a coma for a month, but he comes out of it. >> when he woke up, what's the first thing you said? >> i remember saying, my dad did it. because i remember thinking my last thought before i lost consciousness was, no one's ever going to know that he tried to do this to me. >> went in the world would motivate a father to harm, maybe even kill his 10-year-old son?

>> scott stood to benefit $50,000 if justin died. >> it turns out there is a life insurance policy on his son justin. and just days before the accident, kimball changed the beneficiary, removing his ex-wife larissa and making himself the sole beneficiary. >> how did you feel about that? >> to be honest, i think i threw up. because then it all started making sense. this was no accident. we call it justin's very bad d day? day. the medical personnel at the time, said given the extensive amount of brain trauma justin had sustained, he could not actually still have independent memories of the accident that have happened. >> that statement by the neurosurgeon really hurt that part of the case. >> for justin, there was a long

convalescence ahead. and that's why kimball's relative, his uncle terry, shows up to help. >> scott's uncle terry lived in alabama. he immediately came out to colorado to be with his great-nephew and to help him through his recovery. >> uncle terry is recently divorced, and he's coming to town with his pickup, his camper, his two dogs, and a briefcase full of money from his divorce. >> uncle terry was a little creepy, he wandered around in his underwear in front of me and he's an odd bird. >> pretty soon, lori comes home from work one day to find scott in their backyard cleaning a couch. >> he said, uncle terry was embarrassed because one of his dogs vomited on the couch and he knew he had ruined it and he didn't want to face you. >> so she asks scott, where did

your uncle go? and scott says, oh, he won the lottery and went down to mexico with a stripper. you're probably not going to see him for a while. >> anyway, i'm like, well, for whatever reason, uncle terry is no longer here, so i'm okay with that. >> all these series of unfortunate events have detective gary thatcher and district attorney catharina booth thinking that scott kimball has been passing more than a few bogus checks. >> is it starting to dawn on you at this guy is a dangerous man? >> yeah, absolutely. so they filed charges that would stick and those where the check fraud forgery charges. >> scott didn't know i was in contact with the police at this point and he said no, they are trying to pin a crime on me that i didn't do. so i'm going to take off for a little while. >> we were able to determine that scott was in southern california.

we got together with the u.s. marshals and they were able to identify his truck and that's when the chase ensued. >> he leads police on a three hour car chase. they put down spikes, he goes off roads. >> 39-year-old scott kimball captured yesterday after a four hour police chase. >> part of this dramatic chaise even makes the news that night. finally, his truck begins to run out of gas. he puts up his hands and he gets facedown on the ground. >> we know he safely in custody. what was most important is we needed to keep him in custody. >> they are suspicious that scott is involved in much more than just financial fraud, and in fact, in the disappearance of several people. but they don't have any bodies. so prosecutors from boulder county decide to devise a strategy. >> and scott had enough prior

felony convictions that he qualified for what we call the big -- , means habitual criminal. >> crimes including forgery, theft, and fraud. >> if someone has a rap sheet that's worth bragging about, you can eventually charge them as a habitual criminal. it can put them behind bars for decades beyond any single cha charge. >> kimball is behind bars, but the search continues for those two missing women. >> 25-year-old jennifer marcum disappeared in local february of 2003. her parents help to erect a billboard into thousand six near the strip club where she worked as a dancer. >> after we put up the billboard, we got a call from the reporter and he was doing an article he said on missing girls of these clubs. we told him that we needed him to put in there that the last

person that jennifer saw was scott kimball. >> and i came across an article about a family whose daughter was missing. i thought, okay, this sounds like what i'm experiencing. and it mentions, just out of the blue, but the last person she had been seen with his scott kimball. and then i just thought, oh, crap. >> ron mcleod and bob marcum are part of a club that nobody wants to join. they are fathers of adult women who have gone missing. and both were last seen with a guy named scott kimball. >> rob reaches out to bob and soon they meet. bound by the tragedy they share. >> how many years had your daughters been missing when you met each other? >> believe about two years. >> i felt like i was living in a

nightmare. or a kind of haze. and when i met bob, he was like -- like the pit bull, really focused. i asked him if he could call lori, his ex-wife, and see if i could talk to her. i asked her, you know, do you know of anybody else that is missing? and she said, yeah, now that you said that, uncle terry. >> he says, we are going to the fbi tomorrow. i said, we are? >> he drag you. >> do you just go there? >> he said that he basically dragged you to the fbi office? >> you have yeah. >> ron mcleod and bob marcum come into the fbi office in november 2006. both rob and bob tell my boss that our informant, scott kimball, took their daughters. >> the fbi have an informant linked to two missing women. they realize that they are in really hot water here. >> we were trying to keep the fbi from not only having egg on its face, but right the wrongs

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november 2006. both tell my boss that our informant, scott kimball, took their daughters. >> after hearing from these two fathers, the fbi assigned special agent jonny grusing to look into scott kimball. >> we didn't know how bad the mess was going to be when i was brought in. >> he looks into kimball's history as a career criminal. theft, bank fraud, bad checks, and while there was no history of violent crimes, he did serve some time in prison. >> while he was in prison back in 2002, kimball cellmate is a guy named steve and is. >> now if that name sounds familiar, it's because that was jennifer marcum's boyfriend around the time she disappeared. he tells kimball that jennifer is a stripper that she desperately wants and way out and kimball he seems only too

willing to lend a helping hand. steve and this is facing drug charges, and there are key witnesses who will testify him in his case. >and opportunistic kimball then sets a plan in motion to con ennis. speak up because he soon to be released from prison, kimball tells ennis he will take care of the witnesses and not only that, he will help set up his girlfriend jennifer marcum and a legitimate business just as she always wanted. >> scott says, hey, listen to my when i get out, i can set up jennifer in this legit business. it's a coffee shop. >> but it's only set up, kimball goes around and goes to the fbi and throws ennis under the bus. >> kimball now tells the authorities that his cellmate steve and this has put out a hit on the outside and that he can help stop the murder plot. >> not only does scott kimball claim that steve ennis wants to

kill witnesses, kimball says ennis is going to use his girlfriend, jennifer marcum, to get the job done. this information once up with fbi special agent carle schlaff who had reason to believe that it was true. >> kimball had information on prisoners or inmates were plotting to kill witnesses, federal witnesses. >> karl believed scott was going to save lives and he needed to be an informant when he was released. he'd been an informant before for the fbi in alaska prior to even coming here to denver appeared >> so his previous work had panned out? >> at that time, yes. >> there was reason to believe he was pretty good or his information was good? >> yes. >> the fbi has a long history of using informants. but who better to catch a crook than a crook? >> as a boss once told me, there is no swans in the sewer appeared >>

>>scott kimball gets out of federal prison in late december of 2002. >> once he got out he was under carl's supervision. >> so that leaves you to watch over scott kimball? >> as much as you can, i mean it's not like we love the person. when you say watch over, it's not only the case were working on. how about that? >> and it's not long before he is making with jennifer marcum. >> so then you sanction a meeting between kimball and jennifer marcum. >> yes. what was the plan? >> the plan was to try to corroborate his information. people said that people in the drug conspiracy wanted to kill witnesses. he offered as an informant to wear a wire. >> kimball wears a wire to the meetings, but despite his promises to the fbi, jennifer never says anything about wanting to kill witnesses and there is nothing charge ennis

with. >> and then february 17th, her phone goes dead. and that is the last anyone ever hears from jennifer marcum. >> in the weeks after jennifer's disappearance, carle schlaff is beginning to wonder what exactly happened to her. >> did scott kimball say what happened to her? to jennifer? >> he first told us that jennifer was dead. >> dead? >> yes. >> do you press him for details? >> oh, yes. >> kimball tells schlaff he knows who'd killed jennifer come up and he doesn't give an exact location of where her body may be. >> she was last seen alive in colorado springs. her car was found abandoned at denver international airport. that's another jurisdiction. kimball had said her body was dumped in rifle, colorado. so we didn't really have agency that was going to take the lead on the case because it wasn't

enough for them to investigate, based upon the circumstances. >> schlaff said the fbi kept working on it, but without a body, the jennifer marcum case stalls. >> when scott was let out of prison, he basically had one year to prove his worth as an fbi informant. he was basically running free for a year. but after a year since nothing was provided. carl basically was moved away from the case, and a different case agent came and the jennifer thing was starting to basically die on the vine. >> nobody saw a big picture of who scott kimball was. it wasn't until we start to really looking at his criminal history and piecing things together that we could see that each individual agency had no idea what they were really dealing with. >> but in 2007, gary thatcher, jonny grusing, and katarina booth are starting to connect the dots. >> we've got two women who've never been seen again, who were

both last known to be with scott kimball. that is not a coincidence. >> it doesn't just end with jennifer marcum, it doesn't end with kaysi. we'd find out from lori that scott kimball's uncle terry was also missing. >> i was able to get a search warrant for scott's laptop. >> and what they find there is a photograph of a young woman. >> there were two pictures of a girl. once she had dark hair, and when she had blonde hair. >> they are considering giving kimball's history, she might have met the same fate as kaysi mcleod and jennifer marcum. >> and at long last, kimball will be questioned about those missing women face-to-face. >> so you're asking me if i know where jennifer or kaysi is, the where jennifer or kaysi is, the answer is no.

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that's -- relied all of his life were told a lot of lives all his life, and give him to rev us the truth and one day or a few hours. it just doesn't happen. >> talking with god, it just wears you out. i mean, he'll talk you for hours and hours and hours. if you let him go, he'll talk for ten hours. >> it we can get to the bottom of what happened to jennifer and kaysi, we're pretty convinced i get something to do with their disappearances. you're the last one known to be with both come up with both of them. >> we've interviewed -- >> i disagree. >> that's pretty much the case. and i know you can disagree -- >> you can put it however you want to appear >> it was clear he was denying everything and he wasn't giving us anything. >> we don't know the truth, that's what you've got going for you. if you have that knowledge. we don't have it. >> gary thatcher and jonny grusing are getting nowhere with kimball. despite being behind bars, he's not giving an inch. but they catch a break when they start showing around the

photographs of the young woman from kimball's computer. another former cellmate of kimball's from way back in 2002, stephen holly, knows exactly who she is. and he sees this photograph and he says oh, yeah, that's my ex-girlfriend. that's a young woman named leanne emery. >> leanne emery as a young woman who's like jennifer marcum and kaysi mcleod is a woman who's fallen on hard times. >> she ends up in the relationship with stephen holly. holly is in federal prison and ends up being roommates with scott kimball. >> stephen holly told kimball that he was looking for a way to escape prison and he had a plan in mind that would involve his girlfriend on the outside, leann emry to help him execute it >> again, it's just's classic can't manipulate whoever see with where he's at.

he tells stephen holly i will help you break out. >> kimball offered to take care of his girlfriend when he got out. another girl friend of his cellmate. >> he steve holly did break him out of prison and reunite him with leann emry in mexico. >> she needs to connect with his soon to be released fellow inmate. he tells her his name is hannibal and that she just needs to trust hannibal. >> kimball's nickname in prison is rather ominous, they call him hannibal after hannibal lector in "the "silence of the lambs"." >> may be a little bit of insight into his psyche about who he was as a person. >> seven days after kimball's

released from prison, he made his first contact with leanne emery. >> once kimball gets released, he double crosses steven holley. >> steven holley's trying to escape. he gives details of the escape plan but he takes himself out of it. >> instead of helping him get out of prison, he squeals on him to the authorities and gets steven holley thrown into solitary confinement so that stephen cannot communicate at all. >> but leann emry still believes hannibal is there to help. now leann emry is completely isolated even from her boyfriend in prison. that's when scott closes the circle around her and takes her on a trip. >> so scott tells leann we've got to do that check frauds and thefts to get money for the big escape plot where they're going to break out steven holley and go to mexico. >> while leann's on this journey

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♪ ♪ >> i remember sleepless nights that went on for months. and i remember grusing telling us don't live in the place of thinking this is going to be a happy ending, it probably isn't. okay, what do i pray for now? i don't care if it was a fingernail, that's what i kept praying for, i just wanted her home. >> we are trying to figure out, how do we get something on scott where we can convince him to cooperate with us? we had no leverage with scott. you can spend eight hours talking to scott kimball, and you might come up with five seconds worth of really good information. >> and sure enough, during one

of these two nations interrogations, kimball blurts out something which intentionally or not, gives investigators the first glimmer of hope they've been waiting f for. >> scott tells us what if one of these girls could be found on national forest land? >> kimball seems to be asking if a missing girl's body is found on febrile property, would that mean he could serve out his time in a federal prison? >> scott was trying to get time in federal prison because it's easier life for him then in state prison. when scott said national forest land, we already knew he had went hunting on th the day kaysi disappeared. >> jonny grusing remembers that when he first conducted a search of scott kimball's belongings, he recovered a receipt from a grocery store in walden, colorado. walden is surrounded by national forest land. >> i figured she hadn't been recovered up there, but i went

ahead and call the national forest service and said i've got a receipt up in walden. do you have any missing people? so i was just following up on a lead that was probably a one out of a thousand. they finally put me through to someone who said yeah, they recovered a hiker right before winter in the middle of nowhere. it was a female, but they didn't think it was a homicide. speak of the center so often the distance something glinting in the sun. he didn't know what it was, he felt like he should at least go check it out. and when he did, he found a skull lying on the ground. >> based upon what scott had said, based upon the receipt, based upon the godforsaken place this hiker was recovered, i had a really good notion it was kaysi. gary and i drove up the next morning to meet with the sheriff. i went and recovered all of the skeletal remains, sent them to our lab, tested them against lori's dna, and it came back as kaysi. >> this is the turning point in

our entire investigation. i know we had the body and we had kaysi here, and we were able to get her back to her family. >> the fbi calls and says, hey, we need to have a meeting. there's been some newer developments. when i'd given up she'd been found. somebody had picked her up, taking care of her, and now she's come home. >> we took our whole evidence response team up to that hillside, and we walked up and down until we recovered every piece, every bone of kaysi that we could. and lori and rob went with us. >> but there's something else. lori had been here before. it's where scott had taken her on their honeymoon. and that was only weeks after he had left her body there. >> he killed your daughter at the place you went on your honeymoon? >> yes. yes. it was like a punch in the stomach. he wanted to check on the status of her remains, i'm sure.

i thought we were just camping, and that's in fact where kaysi was buried >> lori would eventually have her marriage to scott kimball on the old. >> it's tough to prove a homicide when you don't have a body and now we had the body and we had kaysi here. this was the moment in the case where johnny and i really, really knew that we had scott. >> we are getting that momentum. we might be able to file a homicide case. and i think scott knows those things are shifting. defense comes to us and says, should we talk about a deal? >> he knew the gig was up, he knew a homicide charge was coming. it was clear to him that he was not getting out of prison. >> we had kaysi, but we didn't have jennifer, leann, or terry. in the deal would be, are these families willing to give up prison time that scott might serve for him to tell us where the bodies are? but we had spoken with the

families, they wanted their girls home. >> we started negotiating terms of a deal with scott. and as a part of that, it would be to sit down with us and start figuring out how do we locate these other bodies? >> scott kimball's going to lead us to the bodies in exchange for some reduced charges from first-degree murder down to second-degree murder. >> and for that, he would get 48 years in prison. >> he definitely wants to take the deal, scott wanted to avoid any kind of a death penalty. >> we are finally going to sit down and scott's going to tell us where we going? where we going to be finding jennifer and terry and leann? what kinds of things are we going to need. >> scott started laying out, we needed to go to utah, and he was almost 80 or excited. he's like, you guys need helicopters, we need four wheelers. >> will just never remember scott just loving himself in that limelight. and then i remember looking at the jail deputies and i said, we just made a deal with the devil.

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>> prosecutors have just made a deal with the devil, and that devil agrees to lead investigators to the remains of leann, uncle terry, and jenni jennifer. >> our plan was to collect both

leann and jennifer in the first day. he said, this will be a piece of cake. >> i thought by the end of the day, we were going to have jennifer and leann. i'm just pumped with excitement. >> you've got nine big black suvs headed out to the mountains. >> we had a big convoy of multiple fbi vehicles. >> s.w.a.t. team, evidence response team, the local sheriffs, his defense attorneys, gary, katarina, and her crew. it so we had 40 people out there appeared >> people are stopping and pausing thinking like the presidents rolling through town. >> it was all about him, and you could tell that he really enjoyed that. >> they crossed from colorado into utah and enter a remote rugged area called if >> it's just this huge wall of it's a kind of a mountain, foothillish, and they go on forever appear >> you just get

the feeling like it's forsaken land. you don't see people. if you don't hear wildlife. it's dirt and dust and heat. >> they go through washers and gullies at kimball's direction to the burial site that kimball says he left his victims. >> he kept pointing to different creeks and he said it could be this one, it could be this one. in our team kept digging and finding nothing. >> we'd all meet every morning and scott would then start taking us out into the wilderness. >> in in that second or third trip, he walks over, and he taps his foot, and he says, merry christmas, dig here. and boy do we all dig. every single one of us, including me, we are all digging on this one spot. and we dug, and dug, and dug. no jennifer marcum. >> and this wild-goose chase plays out day after day, search

after futile search. >> we ran those book cliffs up and down and we did not find them. >> on day 7, kimball directs the team to a dry creek bed. >> and he says as were walking down here, he points to the right and says, there is a bone. and there was a bone. it didn't look human, but he said, okay, well i think we are in the wrong place. let's go tell mike turn around and go the other way. >> it was really odd behavior and so johnny decided he was going to stay back and kind of search that area a little bit more. >> so i started walking up here and eventually i found a hair clip. and it's got brown and blonde here in it. and so i said i'd found leann. and my voice was cracking a little bit. >> i remember going and picking

some flowers and bringing them back and just laying them in that spot for her. there was not a dry eye in the house. that day and the whole next day we recovered leann. it was a very painstakingly slow process. >> where her cranium should have been, there was a spent .40 caliber round which we traced back to scott's handgun. after we did not find jennifer, but we found leann, we said he's in violation of the plea agreement and we are going to trial. so scott said, i'll give you a map where terry was buried >> now, scott actually drew this mat. >> he did. he drew the precise exit. he provides a key down here. >> temple told them they would find a great tarp and a rope between some trees, and that's where he left terry's body. but this time, detectives search

without scott kimball. >> we refers to take him when we went for uncle terry, given the manipulation and the nonsense that we went through out in the book cliffs. >> we followed this logging road, john, and we found the exact tree that he said uncle terry would be beside. >> we were able to find terry campbell wrapped up in a tarp. >> scott had tied him up in a rope and just flung him over like a piece of trash. when the anthropologist put him back together again, they found that he had been shot in the back of the head. >> the search continues for at least one victim, jennifer marcum. >> i hope and i pray all the time that god would tell me something so that i can find

her. evidence or something, whatever it takes. >> now since kimball didn't lead authorities to all four victims, his plea deal is renegotiated. two counts of second-degree murder, one of them for leann, kc, and jennifer, and the second count for uncle terry together carrying a 70 year prison sentence. >> the sentence he has is probably longer than his natural life will be. so sometimes good enough is as good as you can get. >> today, kimball took responsibility for the murders of oracle people. >> but even so, there were still some surprises. kimball entered the courtroom in a wheelchair. >> the court room in boulder was filled with relatives of the victims. >> i did go to the hearing and everybody told them how they felt about what he had done. >> i was present right there at

the very first moment she took her first breath. scott kimball was there to take her last. >> hearing from all the families that he heard, that was very ha. >> my daughter was a young woman with feelings and dreams, and to treat her like trash is despicable. >> kimball remains unmoved throughout all of it. >> he is a monster with no conscience and should be treated as such. >> this man should never be free again. >> you never had your day in court? >> no if you're >> can you forgive him? >> no. he's unforgivable, and he's exactly where he belongs. >> after scott kimball sentencing, he said sterling correctional facility, in sterling colorado. >> but you know what? that's not where scott's story ends. >> even behind bars, he still planting schemes. >> i was about to come in with a helicopter and get him.

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>> scott kimball scones don't stop even after he sentenced to seven decades in prison. eight years later, he's plotting an elaborate helicopter prison escape from the sterling correctional facility in colorado. >> i was stuck in a cell with him. and went from that to the great escape. >> so this guy is jimmy tanksley, he was the one who had been hired by scott to hijack the helicopter and fly it into the prison. >> i was supposed to come in with a helicopter and get him. >> but instead, jimmy tanksley begins working with the fbi and tells kimball they are escape plan is rock-solid. >> i said, it's a done deal. i'll be coming in hot. >> and the date of this great escape comes, scott comes out to the yard looking up, looking up,

just waiting for that helicopter to come. >> it never showed. >> and so now, the con man is the one who gets conned, at least this time. and he pleads guilty to the escape attempt. >> he's never going to stop scheming. >> scott will never stop. >> lessons learned the hard way for former special agent carle schlaff was one time confidential informant committed unspeakable crimes. >> was scott kimball such a good con man that he duped even the fbi? >> he duped me. >> the fbi has to make deals with criminals all the time, and all law enforcement does come at the catch other criminals fear to speak about their valuable. >> they are valuable. and sometimes they have evil intent, and we get conned. >> where you reprimanded by the fbi for your handling of scott kimball? >> yes, my files were gone through. and administratively, they found

some things were lacking. >> what did they say was lacking? >> it was more in regards to paperwork. it was never an admonishment that we shouldn't use him as an informant beer >> some of the families of the victims hold you responsible. should that responsibility fall on you? >> no, it falls on ■kimball. i certainly understand it, though. >> you do? >> they have lost loved ones, and we didn't have the evidence to arrest on those four persons until agent grusing and detective thatcher got involved and connected all the dots. >> we reached out to the fbi, who declined to comment on this case. but former special agent grusing tells us they've made adjustments as to how they deal with informants. >> the fbi's looked at it as best practices and lessons learned from handling informants. >> how many other victims do you think are out there that scott kimball killed? >> if i were to give you her

number today, i would say somewhere between 21 and upwards of 40 some. >> we may never really no. >> no. to speak of the search continues for at least one other victim. jennifer marcum. >> scott was talking to me, and he said, you'll never find your daughter, and so far, he's done what he said. i'm not letting this go. that is a fact. hopefully, i can find her. >> and then there scott kimball son, justin, who still suffers -- not just from his injuries, but also from knowing that he's the child of a serial killer. >> how do you come grips with that? >> it was definitely really hard at first just saying out loud, my dad is a convicted serial killer. >> justin, cody, and myself, we survived. we are the lucky ones. there are others out there that aren't. we are here. >> i'm really confident that i will be able to do something

with my life after this. >> kaysi did serve her purpose on this planet. her purpose was to catch him, and by finding her remains, it all came together. so it wasn't the destiny i had hoped for my daughter, but god has her and nobody can ever hurt her again. ♪ ♪ >> and we should point out tonight scott kimball is currently in a kentucky prison and not eligible for parole until the year 2054 until he's 87 years old. thank you for watching. from all of us here at "20/20" and "abc news," good night. ♪ ♪ building a better bay area

moving forward finding soluonth is abc 7 news. down and out in la the warriors playoff run comes to an end as lebron james leads the rival lakers to a blowout win to close out the series good evening. i'm on a date and i'm dan ashley. thanks for joining like spring in the bay area with this weather. >> yes. and it is going to really warm up over the weekend. sandy is here with the first look at the forecast, sandy. yeah dan and irma is going to feel like summer around here. as a matter of fact, this weekend we have heat coming. take a look at the graphics. high pressure building in to the pacific northwest and those temperatures are going to soar in our inland valleys. so let's look at the next 24 hours. first thing in the morning, there's going to be fog around, which we have right now, 50s and 60s at is away from the coastline popping you up into the 90s by three o'clock in the afternoon 60s coast side, and then the evening. it's going to be pretty mild

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