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♪ this is "nightline." >> byron: tonight -- >> we're going to see beyonce! >> byron: overseas discount. fans crazy in love to see beyonce. heading to europe. >> as soon as she says who,
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what, where, when, how the tickets are going on sale, i'm definitely going to see her abroad. >> byron: paying less for the entire trip than what a ticket could cost back home. >> you pretty much went to saw beyonce, had a whole trip for about a grand? >> yeah, exactly. >> byron: some concertgoers get creative. how you can cash in and catch your favorite superstar on an international stage. the secrets of jackie o. jacqueline kennedy onassis and the intrigue all these years later. >> there was nobody like jackie and nobody understood better her place in the world than jackie. >> byron: the new book with new revelations. >> the secret life was the life that only very few people understood and knew of. >> byron: from the trauma of that fateful day. >> jackie did not want to take the outfit off. it was because that's what she had left of jack. >> byron: to a simmering rivalry involving jfk.
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this year's two biggest headliners. scoring a ticket to see one of these superstars will cost you so much so that some music lovers are packing their bags for europe and paying less for the entire overseas trip than they would for a trip to their hometown stadium. here's "nightline's" ashan singh. >> we're going to see beyonce! >> reporter: die-hard fans packing up -- >> here are my clothes. >> reporter: hopping on transatlantic flights -- >> going to see beyonce in europe. >> reporter: hitting historic sites. >> we're at the eiffel tower. >> reporter: seeing the biggest concerts in europe. >> yeah, beyonce is about to come out. >> beyonce! beyonce! >> reporter: it's the hottest travel hack this summer. for all those crazy in love with beyonce -- ♪ >> reporter: barcelona, england,
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stockholm. not usually the typical concert stops for americans. >> as soon as she says who, what, where, when, how the tickets are going on sale, i'm definitely going to see her abroad. >> reporter: for mercedes, traveling over 5,000 miles to stockholm to see queen bey was worth every minute of the trip. >> witnessing her talent, she basically was like, oh, you want visuals? the way she served the people. it was something for everyone. it was -- the outfits were amazing. the hair was hairing, the body was bodying. she gave. she gave everything. >> reporter: it wasn't as long a trip for raymart who left his kansas city home for a concert in hamburg, germany. >> it was just a real experience. t minus 10 minutes to beyonce. >> she's still absolutely killing it. she was having so much fun.
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and the crowd was totally with her. >> reporter: the big payoff for these long journeys? tickets can be a lot cheaper than they are stateside. earlier this year, ticketmaster's website showed a single seat for beyonce's august 9th concert in charlotte, north carolina, going for $822. while a similar seat to her stockholm show on may 10th, just $225. less than one-third the cost. travel concert creator mercedes says the cost of her flight, hotel, concert tickets, and all the extras in sweden was less than the price of a single concert ticket in her hometown of dallas. what does that total come out be? >> under $700. >> reporter: not just for the ticket but how many days in stok stockholm? >> four. >> and 40 hours in paris for under $700? that's unbelievable. >> yeah. >> reporter: to understand why some concert lovers are choosing
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to hop across the pond, there's the painful memory of last year's spectacle when legions of devoted swifties couldn't buy tickets for taylor's "heiress" tour. >> the line has stopped moving. >> i waited in line six hours. >> reporter: ticketmaster's site crumbling under overwhelming demand. seat prices skyrocketing. sometimes into tens of thousands of dollars. >> taylor swift fans were outraged, and taylor swift fans, like taylor herself, are very adept at social media. and the outrage spread. >> reporter: ticketmaster explained the problem in part saying, the biggest venues and artists turn tos because we have the leading ticketing technology in the world. that doesn't mean it's perfect, and clearly for taylor swift, the "heiress" tour on sale, it wasn't. but we're always working to improve the ticket-buying experience. last week, a repeat performance of sorts. >> when tickets went on sale in
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france for taylor's "heiress" tour next summer, the site crashed. we've gone here before. it happened again. >> reporter: ticketmaster france pointed to issues with a third party and resumed sales this week. >> i really, really wanted to see beyonce. it was my first time. >> reporter: superfan and marketing coordinator raymart says last year's ticketing fiasco spurred him to look abroad. >> it was pretty easy. i had to set up a ticketmaster account for germany, then just toggled the language settings to english, and then i was able to get tickets. >> reporter: raymart and his partner planned a vacation around beyonce's concert in hamburg. how much did it all cost? >> tickets were about each. the hotels were pretty affordable. we were there three nights.
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i guess in total we probably spent like $1,000. >> you pretty much went to europe, saw beyonce, and had a whole trip for about a grand? >> yeah, exactly. >> reporter: mercedes jumped at the chance to see her in stockholm. >> i did a little bit of planning. i had seen her in paris. i went to barcelona. london is always expensive. the pound is stronger than the dollar. when i saw the ticket price to stockholm was under 15,000 miles each way, i bought my ticket before i bought my concert ticket. >> reporter: the eu and different individual european countries have different laws. >> they cap the amount that any reseller can make reselling a ticket, and that keeps the ticket market normal. can you sell that ticket for more? yes. can you sell it for 5,000% higher than the face value? absolutely not. >> reporter: so what drives up u.s. concert ticket prices?
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>> the real problem's not ticketmaster, the real problem are scalpers and bots and these evil things that are, in fact, evil. >> reporter: another factor, u.s. ticket prices can fluctuate based on demand. >> the idea behind dynamic pricing is to match the real market value of the tickets. so if a particular artist is exceptionally popular, the tickets are priced a little bit higher right away. because there's an algorithm that recognizes that tickets that might otherwise cost, say, $100 could theoretically be sold on the secondary market for $1,000 or maybe two or three times that. >> reporter: but swift's team told abc news last year that, quote, taylor chose not to use and will not use dynamic or platinum pricing on taylor swift "the heiress" tour. according to yale's school of management, ticketmaster currently controls over 70% of the market for ticketing and live events. >> you have the world's largest
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concert promoter that owns the world's largest ticketing company and the same company owns and operates venues. to a lot of people, this looks very much like a vertical monopoly. >> reporter: transparency in pricing is also on the president's radar. the white house blaming the rise in ticket costs partly on junk fees. >> the solution is what is called all-in pricing. starting in september, live nation will automatically list all prices up front. >> reporter: as for the leading ladies themselves, both beyonce and taylor swift are making history. "forbes" estimates bay's "renaissance" tour could earn her over $2 billion. taylor's fans? still feeling that lavender haze. ♪ >> reporter: with the "heiress" tour boosting sales, she now has more number one albums than any woman in history.
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mercedes says even though she and other fans travel to see these iconic artists, everybody should take the risk even if they have limited means. >> i would say consider what you're wanting to get out of your experience. make a short list of places you think you can get that. be realistic with yourself about your budget and what your bottom line is in terms of out the door. and don't be afraid to go somewhere that you never considered. >> how many people came up to you and said, we were able to come to this show because of your guidance? >> pretty much every black person that i saw that was american was like, "hey, girl, what's up? you made me want to do something i never would have considered." the coolest part, so many girls didn't even have passports and ended up taking their first international flight, getting their first passport, because of me and bay. like, what? >> byron: our thanks to ashan. new revelations about jackie o. deborah roberts has a closer
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nobody talked like jackie. nobody looked like jackie. nobody acted like jackie. and nobody understood better her place in the world than jackie. >> reporter: she's an american icon, a portrait of grace and glamor. >> i just think that everything in the white house should be the best. >> reporter: a socialite whose classic style defined an era. >> people seem so interested in whatever the first family likes. >> reporter: after marrying into a famous family, becoming a beloved first lady to president john f. kennedy -- >> thank you all for having been so kind to us while we're here. >> reporter: and later a steadfast mother to caroline and john f. kennedy jr. >> there have been any number of books written about jackie kennedy. what more is there to say? >> that was my biggest concern when i wrote this book, what more is there to say? then i realized that the kennedys loomed so large in jackie's story, and every book that's been published has been
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unexplored, her relationships with her own family. >> reporter: behind jacqueline kennedy onassis' sunglasses was a woman who harbored deep secrets, many of which are revealed in the new biography "jackie: public, private, secret." the title is pretty striking. what do you imply? >> in 1989, she had a conversation with john who designed kennedy's gravesite. she said, "i have three lives, public, private, and secret." the secret life was the life that only very few people understood and knew of. >> reporter: i met randy at new york's grand central station's iconic oyster bar. >> the only press conference jackie ever gave in the 1970s was right here in the oyster bar. it was about the preservation of grand central station. >> i think if we don't care
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about our past, we can't have very much help for our future. >> few people have studied jackie kennedy as much as you have. >> when i met jackie onassis, what really struck me about her was how accessible she was. and how easy she was to talk to. she had such faith that you were not going to betray her by returning her to any dark moment in her life. >> something has happened in the motorcade group, there's numerous people running up the hill -- >> it appears as though something has happened in the motorcade group -- >> reporter: her darkest moment, november 22nd, 1963. a traumatized first lady cradling her stricken husband. >> president kennedy has been assassinated. >> many of us remember that famous image of her with the pillbox hat and the blood-covered outfit after her husband was assess nated right next to her. >> jackie did not want to take the outfit off.
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she wore it for many, many, many hours after. and the stockings were covered with blood, there was blood on the pink dress and on the jacket. it was because that's what she had left of jack. i think that the trauma of ptsd colored everything in her life. she felt like the least she could do was mourn him forever. >> reporter: one of the book's most interesting revelations, that her future husband, aristotle onassis, showed up uninvited in washington, d.c. during the time of jfk's funeral. >> he came in town to pay his respects, and she said, well, look, that hotel you're staying at is awful, come to the white house. she stuck him in a sitting room. it was just a couch and a small black and white television. so here you had the richest man in the world, air stolt to the tell onassis, relegated to the servants' quarters. >> what are the odds she would wind up marrying this guy? >> believe it or not, she lived a great lifestyle, but she didn't have any money. jackie married onassis not
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because she was crazy in love, but because she needed a lifestyle that she had become accustomed to. she was living sort of a fraudulent life. she had it all, but it wasn't hers. >> reporter: jackie's younger sister, lee, grew up in her shadow. their mother, janet, a complicated figure in their lives. why was their relationship so fraught? >> she's quoted a lot from a bunch of interviews where she says, my daughter is angry at me a lot. she's quoted as saying, "i refuse to raise weak daughters." cut to the cuban missile crisis. the night jfk gave his address to the country and janet and jackie and lee were together at the white house. that night they wondered how they had ever gotten to this place in their lives? they were in the white house where jackie was the first lady. so as much as they had this contention between them and as much as it was difficult between them, there was also something
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really lovely about their relationship. you know, jackie once said that no one knows what goes on in a family but the people in it. and i think that's really true. >> reporter: her relationship with lee was fraught as well. you write about jackie and lee and these two sisters who were at odds a lot. and even were often intrigued by the same men. >> how can you even understand the bond of sisters? lee dated jfk first. and it was their mother's decision that he should be with jackie. because jackie was older, and janet decided jackie needed to get settled. >> the casket carrying jacqueline kennedy onassis leaves her apartment on fifth avenue to be taken to the church here in new york city. >> reporter: in 1994, at age 64, jackie kennedy onassis lost her battle with nonhodgkins lymphoma, family at her side in her fifth avenue manhattan
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apartment. you knew jackie. you'd written about her before. how do you think she would view this book? >> one of the things jackie once said to me was, "what good is a biography if it doesn't have any secrets?" how interesting coming from a woman who had more secrets than anybody. i think on some level she's looking down and she's like, all right. he did it, he did it exactly the way i would have wanted it done by somebody. >> byron: our thanks to deborah. up next, the soccer pitch and the fever pitch. what david beckham said about lionel messi's much-anticipated miami debut. (cat 1) friskies world! the purr-fect reminder that... life's more fun in the deep end. (cat 2) yeah! so never stop exploring... always keep it real... (cat 1) and do whatever floats your boat - just like we do. (vo) feed their fantasy. ♪friskies♪ my most important kitchen tool?
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♪ >> byron: finally tonight, balling like beckham. superstar lionel messi could make his u.s. debut as soon as friday night. another soccer legend may want to get the tissues ready. inter miami co-owner david beckham, who helped lure messi stateside. >> to bring a player like that to now play in mls, play for our team, it's bigger than just winning trophies. i might actually cry. i'll be emotional for sure. >> byron: we'll all be watching. that's "nightline" for this evening. catch our full episodes on hulu. we'll see you right back here, same time tomorrow. thanks for the company, america. good night.

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