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today we have a look back at allie romance, but it's nothing salacious. the san francisco standard shares with us a unique spot to take a date where you can both discover a hidden gem of san francisco. also a california nonprofit ha not focused on providing supplies but mental health help for the youngest victims whose lives have been forever changed by the disaster in maui. we will talk with the director of project camp. first criminal case number four, a new indictment today out of georgia accuses donald and 18 allies of trying to overturn his 2020 election loss in that state. political analyst jackie speier joins us to discuss the possible applications. thanks for joining us today. >> good to be with you. kristen: give us the nuts and bolts of the latest charges against trump. 's fourth indictment. >> -- his fourth indictment.

>> fourth indictment, now 91 counts. because we believe in the rule of law, he is presumed innocent until proven guilty. but what has happened in georgia is that the da has been very bold in her approach. she has not just indicted him, she has indicted another 18 co-conspirators, and i would suggest that that has something to do with her interest and wanting some of them to turn evidence. they came up with four pillars. the first one was partially government officials. pressuring the secretary of state. that really telltale tape-recorded telephone conversation we are then president trump said to the secretary of state, just find me 11,000 780 votes the actual creation of these fake electors

and creating the forms they would fill out to the than the actual taking of computer software from a small county in georgia and taking that particular documentation, which is theft, of voting machines, and then force is the obstruction of justice, the line that continued to go on. so very widespread -- 19 persons being charged. and i think that we are going to find that this particular case, because it will be televised, is different from the other cases. it's very different from jack smith's case where he focused only on then president trump and was very specific about the electors and his interest in wanting to defraud the government.

this one is much more widespread. kristen: who are a few of those 18 other co-conspirators, defendants here? some of them are very well known themselves. >> they are. some of them have disbarred in states. or are being considered to be disbarred. and some people we have never heard from about before. but the pressure that was imposed on these two poll workers, a mother and a daughter, where they actually sent out people to try and persuade them to commit to saying that they had stuffed ballots. that was pretty remarkable. but this conspiracy where -- the rico statute is about going after criminal gangs. and this is a criminal conspiracy and a gang leader is

being promoted as being donald trump. when you read through the actual indictment, i mean, bringing to various -- the various representatives to convince them to call for special sessions, all of the allegations about fraud that took place, the 60 cases that were filed in in federal court, not one of them survived, because they had no evidence. so, what is so jarring about this is that, yes, it's unprecedented, but this is an an individual who was flagrantly abusing the law. he was not willing to stand by his oath of office. what has always been the peaceful transfer of power in this country. it's never happened before where we had a losing presidential

candidate go to the extreme measures that donald trump has gone through. anyone who wants to take the time to read the indictment will find that it is truly a criminal conspiracy. all the parties that were engaged in trying to overturn the election. larry: let's be clear, racketeering is a statute normally associated with monsters, to have it in the context of a former president is certainly unprecedented and stunning. of course former president trump already lashing out and he says he's going to hold a news conference with irrefutable reports, evidence. what could that be? what is he thinking? >> they will try and have the case transferred to a federal jurisdiction. he will probably be unsuccessful in doing that because so much of the crimes occurred in georgia. but he will probably argue he's not going to get a fair trial.

but let's remember, we have a person now who has been indicted for times on four different sets of circumstances. at some point, we have got to sit back and think, wait a minute, this is someone who does not comply with the law, who does not support the constitution and is willing to do anything to remain in power. kristen: the attempt if you were to try to move it into a federal jurisdiction, is that possibly because if he should win and become president again, could he pardon himself if it was federal as supposed estate? >> that is one of the benefits, you might argue. he can pardon himself and others of you were to become president of all of the other cases that have been filed. relative to the documents and the smith case about his efforts to overturn the election. the state case is not eligible

for pardoning. in georgia, you could not be pardoned until five years after you have started serving her sentence -- your sentence. it would be the governor or the state legislature that would be brought in to take care of that pardoning. kristen: let's talk about how this criminal case comes as trump leads the field of republicans seeking their party's presidential nomination. do you see this having any impact on the -- on his popularity with voters? the first three perhaps made him more popular. >> he has benefited ironically with each indictment. he's used it as a fund-raising tool. most of his fundraising has come from very small donors. the money has been spent mostly on his legal defense. i think that we are beginning to see a fatigue set in among republican voters that on the

one hand he may argue it is all an effort by this corrupt government/law enforcement to undo him. that it's a witchhunt. but at some point, i think that people just get tired of the drama. kristen: so, do you see any indication that republican leadership, whether it is the mccarthys, the mcconnells, the rivals like desantis, are they turning against him? whereas earlier on it seemed like they were remaining in lockstep? >> for the other -- for the most part, the other candidates have been reluctant to take on donald trump with the exception of chris christie, mike pence, and esther hutchinson -- asa hutchinson. that may change if they detect the republican base is

starting to tire. there is a lack of courage among these candidates. the fear is if they were to take on trump, they would lose any possible benefit if down the road donald trump is no longer a candidate. so they want to retain the maga base and also attempt to have other republicans as well. kristen: i want to end this on what the timeline looks like for the four separate indictments and potential trials. circled on the calendar there is november 2024, the presidential election. >> so that's a real good question. because all four of these cases cannot be heard in that one year period of time. it's just impossible. i think the most recent indictment in georgia is more complicated because there is 19 defendants. so you have 19 attorneys.

you can see how that easily turns into a circus. i still believe that the document case is the simplest, most clear one because he obstructed justice, stole documents, you can go back to clinton's national security advisor, who had taken documents, he served time. so there's plenty of examples of people who have been found guilty and if we are going to apply the law to everyone, that is probably the quickest and most effective case of the four. kristen: all right, jackie speier, thank you so much for your insight today. when most of us disaster relief, we think about blankets, water and food, but there is an unseen need as well. up next we will talk to a nonprofit from california that focuses on mental health and helping young disaster victims

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shop now only at sleep number. kristen: childcare is often overlooked in community disaster plans, but changing that is the mission of project camp, based in los angeles. they have a team in maui and they have set up free kids' camps for families displaced by last week's wildfires. joining us as the director of external to talk about how the organization is helping the youngest victims of the wildfire. thanks for joining us. tell us about project camp. it's a little different. it takes a unique approach to helping to bring emergencies -- helping during emergencies, what do you do? >> we are a disaster response

organization. we head out to disasters and we pop up free trauma informed kids' camps for families who have been in -- who have been impacted by climate related disasters. kristen: what do you mean by trauma informed environment? >> a lot. there's a traumatic experience and research shows if you can get them into normalcy, give them activities to help them process what they've been through, it can break up the formation of some sort of long-term impacts that can be very negative. your team that's already on my way. i understand there are several people and they have set up at least one camp. walk us through what they are doing. >> right now we are set up at the maui family ymca

we are running camp there right now with a small team that we brought out. we recruit local volunteers to help carry out the experience. we background check them, put them through some training. we are looking at potentially setting up another camp on the west side of the island. it is still kind of dicey getting over there right now. but we think there is some need on that side of the island as well. so we are looking at possibly setting up another camp over there maybe this week or early next week. kristen: is this partly in lieu of school as well? i understand a lot of the schools are shut down, rg -- right? >> the schools on the east side of the other nurse trying to open back up but the schools in lahaina, one school is completely destroyed and two other schools are going to be closed. we think for a bit of time,

while they are able to clear out debris and get access to them. there is definitely a need. the department of education is doing a phenomenal job trying to get back on their feet. we are here as a stopgap measure to help out until everybody can get back to where they are supposed to be. kristen: is it mostly about ensuring food, activities to occupy them, or is there also mental health support? >> most of it is just making sure there is a space for kids to be kids. they process these kind of things very differently. being around their peers, doing fun activities, arts and crafts, games helps them work through it. we do some sort of trauma informed programming which takes the form of things like gratitude circles. we try to reframe sort of

our experience and talk about things we are grateful for. me checks are mental and emotional checks. those are was for kids to check in with themselves and say, i'm feeling this way. it's a sort of judgment free zone. they talk about what they want to talk about. kristen: how does that help the parents, too, who also went through trauma? >> yeah. it's huge for the parents as well. they often haven't had a chance to process events themselves. they are looking out for their kids first and foremost. and have not had any to check in with themselves, see how they are doing. from a practical component, they had to deal with disaster services, insurance, fema, so this gives them the opportunity to kind of go through some of those things they have to do without having to bring their kids along with them or try to

find some other form of childcare. kristen: you operate a similar camp in california. following all wildfires -- our wildfires, the dixie fire certainly. tell us what you learned there. >> california is our spiritual home. we were at the dixie fire, the calder fire, a couple of fires last summer in northern california. we are very familiar with wildfires. we are very familiar with northern california. we've learned a lot working with families who have been through this before. we know sort of some of the things that they need. we know that this is a real pain point for a lot of families as they try to navigate the aftermath of a fire like this. so, yeah, it's an important thing for everybody. kristen: finally, you had mentioned possibly opening up a

second camp in maui. i'm wondering if you need more volunteers to go there. can people contact you? maybe they can't go, i will stick and help you guys -- how else they can help you guys? >> we try to source volunteers locally for a couple of different reasons. we are not asking for volunteers from the mainland right now. we have a pretty good group. we want to source locally, there is a cultural competency component, they know the community, they know the kids. we try to find people who are here and want to help out. there's an outpouring of support from the community in maui. is been unbelievable. so many people have come out offered to step up and help the kids. we are very much set on volunteers. but everybody out here is going to need a lot of help over the foreseeable future. there's a lot of great ways you can support maui. the biggest thing they need is financial donations.

is going to take a lot to get them back up on their feet -- it's going to take a lot to get them back up on their feet. kristen: thank you so much for sharing those resources and good luck with your work there. thank you so much. for folks who would like to with the wildfire relief efforts, you can also make a $10 donation to the red cross texting red cross to the number on your screen or call 1-800-red-cross. the american red cross northern california coastal region has deployed people to the fire zone. next, are you looking for romantic, expensive, off the beaten path -- an off the beaten path dates but?

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as a tourist destination, you may associate it with recent challenges, but do you ever think of it as a great spot for a date? our media partner, the san francisco standard, thinks so. their new article has the headline, "go on a cute littl date in acute little alleyway in san francisco's chinatown." joining us to share what makes this alley so unique and affordable is the san francisco standard's reporter, han lee. this is a fun one. before we reveal the perfect alley, what did you go out looking for, what makes a perfect place for a date? what does it have to have? >> ross alley has a really dark history actually. a century ago, it's a place full of prostitution and gambling. now it has transformed into a very touristy, popular place. kristen: it certainly is pretty. what's the vibe there? >> is very touristy.

you can find a very iconic old business. the golden gate cookie factory. you can see a big long line outside of the store. there's an art gallery, flowers. a lot of things to do there. kristen: i'm going to pull this up. you can walk us through this. tell us about this shop. what's your recommendation here? >> it's a very popular it has very classic chinese paintings and chinese asian art there. i always order the peach coconut milk with boba, it's about seven dollars. very affordable. kristen: making sure your dreams are compatible may be important to finding the right partner there. next up on the tour, your date tour, is this a fortu cookie factory? >> the fortune cookie factory is very popular.

youight not have head of the heard of this fortune cookve story -- it's one of the most popular tourist spots in san francisco's chinatown. it's not just a it's also aini museum. yocan see all the celebrities who have come to this place to make a fortune cookie. you can also visit them. if you are lucky, he will invite you to make a fortune cookie, too. kristen: the next stop on the tour here is an art gallery. tell us about this one. >> the art gallery is right across the street. it's a very small art gallery. it hosts some of the of residency. mostly asian-american. the exhibition is about the younger generation, how they think about chinatown. creating arts from the high

school year. and it is open every afternoon from tuesday to friday. it's more quiet and private -- it's a more quiet and private space. pictures, but there's also a great flower shop on ross alley. dim sum is nearby. by the way, this is a relatively cheap date. a cheap date means a good thing here. >> yes. it's very affordable. this whole date, you can take public transit. we have the chinatown station. parking is very limited and expensive in the downtown chinatown area. boba tea is dollars, the fortune cookies, less than $10, very affordable. kristen: and very instagramable. great picks.

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kristen: thank you so much for joining us today for "getting answers." we tonight, several breaking stories as we come on the air. former president trump now given ten days to surrender in georgia. also just in tonight, what north korea said moments ago about the u.s. soldier who crossed into north korea. in maui, what authorities have now revealedhi