some jurors more control over their next trip. but first, some san francisco police are misreporting data meant to stop e

races of the individuals wrong. and many of those people belonged to one particular racial group. so we don't know exactly what that racial group was. but the bottom line is what these investigators found was that this officer, he was getting the races wrong when he was actually logging it into this state database, used to track racial demographics. and in some of those cases, he was getting it wrong there when he was actually getting it right in his incident report. so that raises a lot of questions for them. >> i see like there's this instant report, the police report, if you will, and then there's the reporting to the state part. so they didn't match up, is that what you're saying? that's right. >> yeah. the state basically requires san francisco police officers and every other officer to actually to enter into a state database what they perceive a person's race to be when they pull them over, when they stop them on the street. this isn't just drivers. it's,

you know, pedestrians and bicyclists, things like that. tell us about that. >> right. the law that requires officers when they make a traffic stop, the information that they need to put down about the person they stopped, what i believe there's something like 16 questions. >> officers have to answer when they stop somebody. the law is basically meant to quantify for the first time the races of people who who are being stopped by police. so there's all sorts of questions that officers have to answer. they could do this immediately. me, they could do this at the end of their shifts. they basically have to report who these folks were, that they stopped and they have to choose. there's actually seven races that they could choose from. and the state tells all that, apply all the races that might have based on their perceptions, not the actual race of a person. in fact, i believe officers aren't even allowed to ask a person what their actual race is. >> i see. i think you're talking about ab 953. right. passed in

2018 for the purpose of cracking down on police profiling. obviously very important. but if they're asking officers to just kind of make an educate guess, doesn't that leave a lot of mistake room or wiggle room? because it's really hard, especially in a multi racial area like san francisco bay area, to tell sometimes what race someone is, right? >> yeah, that's a great point. i think the law is probably imperfect. i think the idea behind getting officers to report their perceived race, the perceived race of the people, they stop is to get into an officer's head to the greatest extent possible because the idea behind the law is really to you know, curb bias. right so if you're trying to address bias, you want to get inside the head of the officers to know what they were thinking when they decide to stop this person. for instance. and the problem that's happening in san francisco or may be happening in san francisco is you have this one

officer who's accused of mis conduct for getting the wrong races, right. so we did our own analysis this, and we wanted to see how widespread this problem may be. and what we found is there's three officers in particular who are repeatedly logging multiple races. so they're not just saying this person i see on the street might be black and white. they're actually logging, they're checking the box for five different races over and over and over again in a large proportion of the stops they're doing. and the effect of that is basically to obscure the races of the individuals that they're stopping. right? i don't know why they're doing it, but that is the effect of the practice. the other thing that we found is there's one officer in particular, a sergeant who is actually has stopped a thousand people plus in the time period we looked at and i believe it was something like all but five of the individuals, he stopped, he said, were nonwhite. right. and so that's yeah. >> when you look at the

demographic data of this area, it does warrant a second look. so watchdog groups are concerned , of course. what is it that they fear is happening and what do they think may be happening? >> you know, there's a lot of theories for why this can be happening. it's a little bit hard to explain. you know, i i've heard that you know, maybe officers want to, you know, hide a pattern that they're of traffic stops that they're conducting that may be racially motivated. i mean, that's the most, you know, the most critical view of the situation. another possibility is maybe officers just don't want to take the time to fill out the paperwork that they need to fill out. so we don't really know exactly what's happening now, but certainly the police commission wants answers. some members of the police commission, at least at the department of police accountability, which first uncovered this issue through their investigation in and there's talk now of potentially auditing stop data by the police

department. >> so it sounds like there will be follow up and action. but you mentioned the issue of time and how long it takes to submit these police reports. so yesterday here on getting answers, we had san francisco supervisor rafael mendelman on. he you know, we were talking about the number of traffic citations really dropping by 97% in san francisco over eight years. last year, i think they averaged ten stops a day in the city this large and that being a possible cause of flagrant disregard for traffic laws. let's listen to what he said. >> the changes around burden for each officer who does a traffic stop so that whereas ten years ago a traffic stop might have been a 3 to 5 minute exercise with all the paperwork that may be involved at this point, it may be a 20 to 30 minute exercise. >> look, i know that is outside of the scope of this particular store of yours. right. so i'm not going to ask you unless you happen to know how it could be

streamlined, the collection of the data. but i am wondering if you've encountered people who said maybe we do need that racial data. right. we do need to monitor whether there is racial profiling, but maybe there's some alternative ways to do it that are maybe more reliable or time efficient. >> yeah, i mean, i think the bottom line is that state law is state law. and until state law changes, officers are going to need to be required to enter this data in some way. i mean, my understanding is the police department has recently changed the system that they use to track racial demographic data, stop data. i don't know that that cuts down on the time it takes for officers to actually enter this data. i do think it only takes about five minutes to do this per stop. if i'm not mistaken. and there are many reasons just to address what you brought up, which is the decline in traffic enforcement. i think there are many reasons for that. and the main one that i've seen, chief scott reference is the pandemic and the fact that, you know, in 2020, a lot of drivers were not on the street and that's really when we started

seeing this big decline in in tickets getting issued by sfpd. >> right, right. what are the potential consequences, if any officer were found to have intent falsified that kind of data? yeah well, if it's intentional, the police department says that an officer could face serious consequence, including termination in, i believe, a police spokesperson also mentioned decertification, which is a new process set up across the state. >> so there are very serious consequences for officers who are doing this intentionally that said, we don't know the officers that we've identified, whether it was intentional. we're just saying we found these trends and some folks tell us that those are red flag. >> right. all right. that certainly is fascinating data that you took a close look at. and i understand you said that the police commission, police, they will be taking a closer look at all this. so thank you so much. keep us posted, michael. >> all right. thank you. >> you can check out michael's

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to improve safety for female and non-binary drivers and passengers. it's called women plus connect. joining us live now to talk about how it works,

rideshare driver, podcaster and senior contributor to the rideshare guy website, sergio ovidian. sergio thanks for joining us. thank you, kristin. >> much appreciate it. >> all right. since you're a first time guest, i just want to viewers to know a little about you. your bio is as interesting as they come. tell us about yourself, your background, so, yeah, i was on wall street for 20 years. >> then i joined the rideshare guy about five years ago as a contributor. i love writing, so what better way to write and tell drivers how to be more efficient, right? that's what we're all about on the rideshare guy. then about a year ago, i started doing a live streaming podcast on our youtube channel called show me the money club, and if i may plug this one occasion, we're going to personally i'm going to interview the ceo of lyft, david risher, live on our channel on the 26th of september. >> okay. well, let's see if we got something that you can present to him. but from picking stocks to giving rides, that is

certainly fascinating. so i want to ask you about women plus connect. how does the new feature work? >> the new feature works uh. first of all, i think it's long overdue. okay? and i think it's a wonderful, wonderful idea. the way it's going to work is as a passenger, when you are onboarded to the platform, you have chosen an identity for yourself or a gender. obviously and that's going to be your gender. and then the same thing is done with the drivers. although the drivers upload and many more documents such as driver's licenses. so what happens is that now you will be able to request that if you're a female passenger or a female driver. now there are some logistical issues with this on the platform 50% of all passengers are female. unfortunate only about 23% of all drivers are female. and i think this is going to be a wonderful idea. if there was enough density as far as female drivers are concerned. so what

needs to happen now is that this news has to get out. and i think because of this, more female drivers will be joining the lyft platform are. >> so this in itself could get more female drivers to sign up and thereby kind of solve that supply and demand. question a little bit interesting look, but what is the basic problem? it's trying to solve? is there a large percentage or what is the percentage of rides that result in either an assault or harassment? i assume this is what it's trying to prevent. yeah very important question. >> very good question. so lyft does put out their safety reports every two years. a lot of the problems occur. obviously we at bar hours right? so certainly there are some bad actors who were able to squeeze themselves onto the platform as drivers. and what happens is that although they do go through a background check, you know, crime is crime and people do stupid things. so for me, the most important aspect of this

new program is going to be at those hours, bar hours. so figure you're a female. you just had a couple of drinks, you enjoyed yourself, you go out, you're ordering a trip, right? and what better way to give you more comfort, more safety as far as ordering yourself a trip with a female driver? i think i think more more than the issue, the safety issue. right which is a major concern. it's a comfort issue. i mean, if i was female, i would definitely would want to get picked up. and after a few drinks by a female driver. >> oh, yeah. i mean, no doubt this is like, you said, long overdue. but i think uber says it has something like that. right. and i don't know if i'm just not able to find it, but i was looking on uber and lyft today to figure out how i can input my gender and ask for something like that in the future. but i don't see it on either. >> not yet. this is only in only in five cities. it's a test

pilot program, but i have spoken to lyft. we had this news a few days ago while we were under embargo. obviously but we ran it on our channel, on our live stream yesterday. once the news was released by lyft. it's a it's a test program in five cities at the moment. and but hoping to go nationwide. and as i said, you know, the problem is going to be in the math. if 50% of the passengers on the lyft platform platforms are female, right. and only 23% of the drivers are female and i'm assuming that number is a lot lower, obviously, for certain reasons at bar hours, how are they going to figure this all out? >> so i don't know. this gets us into any additional problems, but i know i myself would pay a premium to have a female driver or certainly for my college age daughter, right. to pay a premium. so that in itself may entice more women to get into the profession. if they're compensated fairly. which gets me to our next question, sergio, because i know you're familiar

not just with this, but other issues for drivers is how is it these days in terms of the pay and the transparency for drivers? well as far as transparency, about a year ago, both uber and lyft introduced something called upfront fares for drivers. >> for years, for many years, about 4 or 5 years now, the passengers had upfront fares, meaning you know exactly what you're going to pay for the trip before you even get in the car. now that was introduced for the drivers, the one problem as far as transparency is concerned, the drivers never knew all the way till last year where they were going for they accepted the offer. now we do so. and now we also know how much the fare is going to be, how much we're going to get paid. so as far as transparency and what we're going to get paid upfront fares was great. unfortunately, in this day and age of algorithms and there there is some algorithmic wage discrimination is going on. obviously we've done our tests and we were published in the la times a few

times about this, you know, upfront fares is a black box algorithm. honestly we really don't know as drivers what we should get paid the same trip in one minute could pay us $10 and the exact same trip a minute later could be $15, because what they did over in lyft is that they took away the rate card, meaning what we were getting paid by time and distance. so once there is no more rate card, it's a black box algorithm that decides on calculating 70 different things. literally in a millisecond. you know, the transparency part is great as far as knowing where the passenger is going before we accept the offer. however the pay has not been so much. so actually, this is one of the points i'm going to discuss with david risher when he comes on on our show. >> okay. you know what, sergio? that was fascinating. i'm sorry. we're out of time because i wanted to ask you what you think about waymo and cruise as well. but it sounds like we just have to bring you back another day. >> please do. yeah. i have a lot of thoughts about those. >> i'm sure you do. all right.

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and there are often better deals than during the summer. if you're thinking of a trip, there are some new attractions and offers and changes you need to know about. joining us live now to share with them, with us is bay area raised disney blogger founder of mickey visit.com gavin doyle hey gavin kristin it's great to be back with you. i know there's a lot to talk about. right. i guess we should start with the new stuff, halloween and dia de los muertos . >> definitely. so we have halloween in full swing. dia de los muertos. they have a great coco themed festival. so halloween and there's a special firework decorations throughout

a ton of themed food. and then dia de los muertos, there's a whole coco themed celebration that just has continued to grow with a new show. same thing, themed food, just a great addition. and of course, the characters all throughout the parks in their halloween costumes like you see right here. >> i know i love that feeling that you get it. also new and especially exciting to bay area folks. i think the new san francisco themed land in california adventure. it's based on the movie big hero six. tell us about it. what's it called? i can never say it right. it's a combination of san francisco and tokyo, i think. right >> well, especially when you say san francisco all day. so san fransokyo, it's a combination of san francisco and tokyo. it's from the big hero six movie. it's san fransokyo and it's a new kind of renovated area that has new food, dining and an opportunity to meet baymax and hiro, who you see on screen there. so already has been a ton of fun and really popular with families. >> cool. is there a new food as part of that? yes a ton of new

food. >> it's asian fusion food there and it's built upon the it was the old pacific wharf area. and so the food has just been kind of elevate and a new culinary lens brought to that whole area. >> okay. well great. i mean, because food is always my favorite thing wherever i go, including to the theme parks. there's also new restaurant worth mentioning, i think as an alternative to those of you who are always trying to score blue bayou reservations like me, because you just love being in that area. you love that new orleans bayou flavor. so there's something based on tiana, right? >> yes. so next year we're getting a brand new attraction. tiana's bayou adventure, which is replaced splash mountain. in advance of that, we have tiana's palace, which is a great new quick service restaurant that has really fantastic food, new beignets, great food, inspired by new orleans. they actually are flying the bread in and rice in from new orleans inspired by that and has just been getting rave reviews already all around . so a great new addition to new orleans square. >> gavin, you had me at beignets in terms of attractions, is there still no fantasmic there?

>> still the fantasmic is going to come back in spring of 2024, in the meantime, though, there's some new nighttime entertainment that's going to be inspired by jazz, new orleans and princess and the frog that is bringing a whole new projection and nighttime display to the rivers of america starting soon. >> ooh. okay. now time is of the essence because i think we only have two more weeks to take advantage of a california resident special, right? >> that's right. so starting ending on september 28th is this california resident deal, which which is a three day package deal, really great discount option. so if you can get to disneyland before then, great opportunity to take advantage. and again, you can find the lowest prices on that. as always . on disneyland tickets for mickey visit .com/ tickets that'll give you even lower prices on that discount than what you would get from disney itself. >> okay. wait, how how much is the savings again? >> it's quite dramatic. so as low as i actually don't have the number in front of me, but i believe it's 90 something

dollars per day around that range, much lower than what would typically be a three day pass ticket. >> okay. so when does halloween, which i love, but when does it give way to christmas decor and celebrations at disneyland? >> yes. so halloween, say, is my second favorite time of year. my favorite time of year is christmas at disneyland, the holidays at disneyland resort, where festival holidays, christmas, the entire thing. it all starts up on november 10th and on november 10th it runs through january seventh. it's a ton of celebration. you know, the haunted mansion holiday continues. it's a small world, has a special holiday offering new celebration, one of fireworks. there's the festival of holidays over disney, california adventure, which brings a whole new range of other entertainment and just a broad celebration that hits every corner of the disneyland resort. >> okay, so how do you get in on that while still avoiding the heaviest crowds? >> definitely. so for both halloween and christmas, there's a similar tip which is going earlier in those seasons, the

better. so for halloween, if you can get there before mid-october, you're going to be way better off because in october there are way more crowds that come in. there's been a new fall holiday break that's become more and more common across schools in california and neighboring states that come in. so mid-october gets crowded and you can go before then. you're way better off. same thing with december and christmas. if you can go before those final two weeks of the year. typically you're better off when you're when kids are still in school. i would also say avoiding thanksgiving and there is the right thing to do to avoid those biggest crowds. >> all right, gavin, great information. i know you had some hotel tips for us, but i'm going to have to send folks to mickey, visit .com to get that because we are out of time. thanks so much. >> great to be with you, kristin. >> all right. by the way, abc7 is owned by disney, our parent company. and a reminder, you can get our live newscast, breaking news, weather and more with our abc7 bay area streaming tv app. it's available on apple tv, google tv fire tv and roku

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