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♪ there's no mountain you can't move or you can't climb ♪ ♪ there's no mountain you can't move or you can't climb ♪ this is "nightline." >> juju: tonight, kevin mccarthy out. congressional history moud on the haas floor today. >> at the end of the day, if i have to lose my job over it, so be it. >> juju: how it happened, who's in charge, what comes next? coming due. student loan borrowers back on the hook for more than $1.7
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trillion in loans. more than 28 million americans resuming payments. many describing their debt as crushing. >> that's a really big chunk, you know, of our spending every month that would go towards t that. >> juju: americans having to make tough choices. >> as far as any line items, there's not really anything that we can cut. >> juju: some wondering, was the debt worth it? >> it's the thing i am probably the most ashamed of this my life. silver and single. >> nobody that is fun like we have fun. >> juju: the golden bachelor and his suitors breaking stereotypes. >> the difference between 30s and 70s might be the difference between lust and love. >> juju: what dating advice the bachelor says he didn't listen to. >> "don't kiss anybody on the first night" which i failed at. >> oh-oh, spoiler alert. >> yeah. >> juju: the lure of love at a later age. >> wow. >> "nightline" will be right back. aah, it's a good day to cough. oh, no!
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here's abc's congressional correspond at rachel scott. >> reporter: there's hardly been a day like this on capitol hill. we started the day with kevin mccarthy as speaker of the house. then he became the first speaker to be voted out of the job. then suddenly kevin mccarthy announced late today that he will not be running for speaker again. all of this after a handful of republicans rebelled against him, voting to kick him out of the job because he reached across the aisle and worked with democrats to fund the government. as for what comes next? it is anyone's guess. we are in uncharted territory. here what is we know. republican congressman patrick mchenry will serve as temporary speaker of the house until a new one is selected. it's unclear how long that will take. the house has canceled votes for the rest of the week. juju? >> juju: rachel, thanks. now the financial crisis for millions of americans now faced with resuming student loan payments following a covid-era hiatus. tomorrow, president biden is scheduled to speak about the administration's continuing efforts to cancel certain
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student debts, as well as additional support for borrowers. here's abc's elizabeth shellzy join is us here at "nightline" for the first time. >> reporter: at 4:00 p.m. every day, sarah wood welcomes home her husband, ross, and their 8-year-old twin daughters. >> apples and peanut butter, cheese and crackers. >> reporter: ross teaches at the girls' school in denver. that was once sarah's career. >> i come out of grad school at the age of 27. an educator, ready to take on the world of special education. >> reporter: sarah's dream was to teach children with autism. so she decided to take out a $118,000 student loan to get her master's in education from columbia university. >> i applied to a handful of education schools, and i got into the best. and there was pride in that, right? >> reporter: she started teaching in denver. >> these are great memories. i remember all of these kids so well. >> reporter: when their twins were born, the weight of the
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loans became crushing. >> between the loans, the amount of that, and the two of us being paid on a teacher's salary, that wasn't going to work. >> reporter: sarah quit teaching for a job in consulting so she could afford the $440 payments on her loans every month. >> the interest is 7.65%. >> pretty high. >> reporter: at a nearly 8% interest rate, her $118,000 balance ballooned to $180,000. >> it was obviously not the smartest decision, right? like, i could have made another decision. it's terrible. it's a huge number that we have to deal with. we have to think of and we have to budget for that every day. we have to budget for the future consequences of this loan every single day. this thing that i am probably the most ashamed of this my life. >> reporter: sarah is one of 28 million borrowers once again on the hook for paying off their loans, ending a pause that began
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in 2020 when the pandemic hit. >> to help our students and their families, i've waived interest on all student loans held by federal government agencies, and and that will be until further notice. >> reporter: in an unprecedented effort to give borrowers financial relief, the trump administration paused payments on federal student loans and froze interest rates at 0%. for sarah, it was a rare opportunity to save for her daughters' college education. >> my husband and i sat down, and with us both on a payment pause, it's like, let's put whatever we can towards our daughters' 529s. having been through this situation, we want to so strongly avoid it for them. we were able to save more towards their college education. >> reporter: the pause endured over three years, through eight extensions. finally ending october 1st. are there areas in your budget that will change now that you
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will be making those payments again toward your loans? >> yes. certainly. it's just a tightening of the belt across all areas. you need to live in a house. you need to pay groceries. you need to eat. then from there on, you kind of have to figure out where to skimp and save. >> for most student loan borrowers, it means hard choices. >> reporter: economist mark zandi says restarting payments will create headwinds for the american economy. >> it was very hopeful in the time. obviously, we've got to move on now. and that is not comfortable. that's painful. that's the process we're engaged in at the current time. >> reporter: he says the average payment of $200 to $300 a month will force borrowers to tighten budgets stretched by rising interest rates and inflation. >> consider the higher inflation the past couple of years. the typical american household is now spending $750 more a month to buy the same goods and services they were, just because of the higher inflation. >> when you add an average student loan payment of between $200 and $300 to that, that adds
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up? >> they're now shelling out $1,000 more plus each month to kind of do what they had been doing. >> these numbers are pretty significant. >> reporter: having to resume payments will force bor error eslike first-generation college graduate michael lopez in anaheim, california, to make compromises. >> that's a really big chunk of our spending every month that would go towards that. >> reporter: the 33-year-old's goal of becoming a social worker led him to pursue a master's degree after a degree in sociology at a state school. he now owes $240,000 in student debt. >> astronomical number. the only time i've seen a bigger number when is we bought our house. >> reporter: his monthly bill, nearly $800. >> we all deserve an opportunity for education. however i had to make that happen is going to make it happen. >> did you ever consider a career where you could make more money, easily pay off those debts? >> actually, no. this is too meaningful to me. i feel like it was what i was
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designed to do, to help people. and so, yeah, i'm proud of it. it's exactly where i want to be. >> even if you have $200,000 plus in debt hanging over your head? >> yeah. >> reporter: michael says the payment pause opened up the opportunity for another major first in his family. >> i asked myself a lot of times, you know, whether or not it's a dream. >> reporter: being able to take advantage of record-low mortgage rates in 2020 and buy a home. >> it was like, i don't know if we'll ever own a home. and the fact that we were able to do that because of the pause was just like -- i mean, mind-blowing. >> reporter: now he and his wife have their first baby on the way. but fulfilling that american dream came at a cost. some might say, well, now you've taken on even more debt and you still have to pay your student loans back. was that really a smart financial decision? >> i think so. we're quickly building a lot of equity in the home. and that's a long-term investment for us as well. and for our kids.
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>> reporter: michael followed every twist and turn of the payment pause, hoping it would spur broader student debt reform in washington. >> i've become more plugged in to politics than i ever have in my life. >> millions of americans in this country feel disappointed and discouraged or even a little bit angry. >> reporter: when president biden in 2022 proposed debt cancelation of up to $20,000 for millions of americans, michael was elated. only to see that plan struck down by the supreme court. >> critics of loan forgiveness, especially with student debt, say so many americans had to pay their own debt, why should this generation be any different? >> yes, there are folks who have worked for it and were able to pay, mind you, some of those folks paid a lot less than what we're paying these days. but, you know, that's a privilege to be able to do that, right? >> i sympathize with those who did pay off their loans and feel that we should have to do the same, but my argument against that would be, we want to be a culture of progress.
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i wouldn't say to a young woman who's going to have children, "oh, well, you shouldn't get 24 weeks of paid maternity leave because i didn't get that." we notice areas where we could improve. as a culture, we aim to make progress. >> reporter: sarah says one step toward progress would be permanently lowering interest rates on student loa do you regret getting that master's? >> i do, unfortunately. that internally makes me very sad. because it's something to be proud of. but i regret it. it's not just -- it's anxiety, it's taking away from what i can do for my children in the future, it's what we can do month to month. on it's a constant battle. >> juju: our thanks to elizabeth. coming up, the golden bachelor looking for love later in life. when moderate to severe ulcerative colitis takes you off course. put it in check with rinvoq, a once-daily pill.
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♪ >> juju: does looking for love look different at 72? you bet it does. meet abc's golden bachelor, who's attracting quite a viewing audience. he's got the moves. >> nobody has fun like we have fun. >> juju: he's got the roses. he's got social security. i just notice that you're wearing hearing aids. i love that you're normalizing that. >> it's not something that i'm self-conscious about. i just got sick and tired of missing half of the conversation. >> juju: he's the 72-year-old golden bachelor, geary turner. what kind of advice did your
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daughters and granddaughters give you? >> "don't kiss anybody on the first night." which i failed at. >> juju: oh-oh, spoiler alert. >> yeah. >> the man of the hour has arrived! >> juju: making "bachelor" franchise history as the first leading man over 40. another twist on the season, the contestants moving into the bachelor mansion aren't the 20 and 30-somethings viewers are used to. >> i guess i get the bunk bed! >> surprise! >> when you're older, the difference between 30s and 70s might be the difference between lust and love. >> i want women to see that there's so much life left to live. >> there is. >> cheers to another good decade of really good love. >> juju: describe the butterflies in your stomach as the limo doors opened. >> wow. how are you this evening? >> oh, geez. i'm not even sure i could find the words. there was excitement. there was apprehension. and you would see a leg step out
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of the limo, you'd hold your breath a little bit. oh, gosh, it was so exciting. >> juju: so whose big idea was it for you to be the golden bachelor? >> huh. >> juju: who pushed you into it? >> my daughters pushed a little bit. >> way to go, dad! >> so kind, he has so much to give. he deserves to find that in somebody else. >> juju: how did they pep talk you? >> it was mutually agreed that i had nothing going on dating. >> juju: you had no game? >> no game, right. no game. i had nothing. i was, you know -- i was feeling a little down on myself. not in a good place. and they pushed it. >> juju: a midwestern native with a story that might resonate with many romantics out there. >> i married my high school sweetheart, toni, in 1972. we had 43 wonderful years together. toni retired the end of may in 2017. we bought that dream house. closed on it june 6th.
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from june 6th on, it didn't go according to plan at all. she had a bacterial infection. i took my wife to the emergency room on july 11th. she passed away on july 15th. >> juju: i think grief is something that so many people can respond to. what do you say to folks who are either going through that grief or feeling timid, for whatever reason, about getting back in the game? >> i would say, don't rush the process. keep trying. and if it feels good, take the next step. if it doesn't quite feel right, take a step back, analyze where you're at in the process of grieving, and then pick it up again later. because i made that mistake several times. >> it's so inspiring to be around women that have been through life and want to experience more. >> this isn't a moment, this is a movement. >> juju: how does it feel to be
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the face of the movement? >> it's a movement those women have started. that their poise and elegance represents us so well. i'm just one guy. you can go out and find one guy anywhere. i'm an anomaly. but when you find 22 people that represent us that well, then it's a trend. >> juju: yet the fireworks still matter? >> oh, yeah. it does. yes, it does. the warm, soft feel you get when someone looks you in the eye? that's the first step. >> juju: what do you think the biggest misconception is about golden dating? >> um -- >> juju: dating in your older years? >> perhaps that we're boring and mundane. and we're not interested inneed adventure and risk. to me, the bigger the risk and excitement, the better the date. >> juju: this season perhaps a reset for the franchise after former fans and cast members expressed disappointment with the show's lack of diversity over the past 22 years. with the first black
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bachelorette, rachel lindsay, premiering in 2017. the first black bachelor, matt james, in just 2021. >> i just want what's best for you. and if that's not going to be me, i can't make you happy and be all those things for you, then -- that stinks. >> juju: longtime host chris harrison departing the show amid statements he made that seemed to defend the racially insensitive past behavior of a contestant. the franchise has gotten criticism for not being inclusive enough. do you feel like this is a step towards progress? >> i really think, yes, that is the case. you know, not every beautiful body out there is the only thing that we should be interested in. but rather, the beautiful souls and beautiful hearts. and that's where i -- again, i go back to thinking about those women as a group. how great they were. i think, yeah, we represent a generation that has something different to say to america than the 30-somethings.
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>> cat. cat. >> oh, i thought you said kylie. >> juju: over 27 seasons, the average bachelor has been about 31 years old. 25% of men and 39% of women 65 and older are single. >> just because you're old doesn't mean you don't have vigor and excitement in your life. and you should never stop trying. if you're looking for a partner in life, do not quit. >> looks like you are dressed for the wedding. >> juju: "the golden bachelor" live debut was watched by over 4 million viewers, a 25% increase from the previous season premiere featuring 27-year-old zach shellcross. we know what young love looks like. what does true love feel like at your age? >> it's that warm, fuzzy feeling, that regardless where you're at or what you're doing, you think about that person and
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wish you were with them at that very moment. you wish you knew what they were doing. don't look for the woman that you can live with, look for the woman you can't live without. but there was only one that was the right person for me. and i had to find her. >> reporter: as to whether geary wound up handing out a final rose? can you tell us? did you find true love? >> i could, but i won't. >> juju: coming up next, california has a new senator. she found it. the feeling of finding the psoriasis treatment she's been looking for. sotyktu is the first-of-its-kind, once-daily pill for moderate-to-severe plaque psoriasis... for the chance at clear or almost clear skin. it's like the feeling of finding that outfit psoriasis tried to hide from you. or finding your swimsuit is ready for primetime. dad! once-daily sotyktu is proven to get more people clearer skin than the leading pill. don't take if you're allergic to sotyktu; serious reactions can occur.
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more traditional type of event. laphonza butler today sworn in as california's newest senator by a former california senator. >> do you solemnly swear that you will support and defend the constitution of the united states -- >> juju: butler chosen by governor gavin newsom to replace the late senator dianne feinstein. she's been a lobbyist, and president of emily's list, female canned dates who support abortion rights. she's california's first lgbtq senator and first openly gay black senator. that's "nightline." watch full episodes on hulu. see you back here same time tomorrow. thanks for staying up with us. good night, america.
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