day is a culturally diverse city, but not exactly known for its appreciation of egyptian culture. so why is there an egyptian museum? we'll take you there on a tour. but first, a major roadblock for driverless vehicles with california's dmv suspending cruises, permits to operate robo taxis and even conduct tests after multiple incidents. you are watching, getting answers. thanks for joining us. i'm kristen sze. the stunning cruise news comes after a slew of safety concerns and incidents since the gm owned av maker got approval in august to operate driverless taxis in san francisco. the city is the first in the us to allow robots taxis at all hours of the day. waymo, owned by alphabet, is still able to operate. joining us live now to talk about this development is pete bigelow automotive technology reporter for automotive news. pete, thanks for joining us.

>> you're very welcome. thanks for having me. >> how big of a blow is this for cruise? >> well, this is a big blow. they have substantial ambitions of scaling, not just nationally, but globally, as they've outlined in recent weeks. and to have this happen, you know, right in their hometown and their primary market right now is a substantial setback. and that might be an understatement. yeah i think you're right. >> i mean, this day started badly and then it went to worse for cruise. it started with labor leaders protesting in front of cruise headquarters, ahead of a massive expansion into the new cities you were talking about. and then came that dmv announcement. it said cruise misrepresented information related to the safety of its avs. do you know what they mean by that? the misrepresent nation? >> yes. and their suspension order. they went into some key details that there was the big accident earlier this month on october 2nd when a cruise vehicle hit a pedestrian in san francisco and the next day cruise in the dmv. officials met

to discuss and review video footage of the incident. and cruise only played a portion of the of that particular video. it did not play the pertinent portions that came after the initial strike. and that's what the officials learned about only later from from a different regulatory agency. oh >> oh, interesting. i think a lot of people didn't know about that part. i do want to point to what cruise said about that particular incident. you were referring to. their statement says, as ultimately we develop and deploy autonomous vehicles in an effort to save lives in the incident being reviewed by the dmv, a human hit and run driver. tragically struck and propelled the pedestrian into the path of the av. is that part true that had it not been for the human driver, for that, this wouldn't have happened? and i guess is it fair to expect an autonomous vehicle or any vehicle even operated by human to be able to program and anticipate 100% of situations that might be thrown its way? yes

>> so this is a complicated crash in a way that happened. and it is indeed true that a human driven vehicle struck the pedestrian first. and you know, very sadly, she she rode the hood of the human driven vehicle for a few seconds before falling off the hood into the path of the cruise vehicle. so that part is accurate as to what happened. but what happened next was cruise had shown a video that the cruise robotaxi had come to a stop atop the pedestrian zone. and that's where a lot of people thought that the you know, that ended. but what the dmv has revealed today is after the cruise vehicle stopped it, then later started moving again for another 20ft with the pedestrian trapped underneath and getting dragged along the way and potentially sustaining further injuries. and cruise had not disclosed that. and that is what concerns the dmv, both in terms of cruise omitting that and the vehicle performance itself, that

it didn't stop after it had struck her for good. wow >> that is a big deal. so it didn't just end with it stopping on top of the pedestrian. it actually went for another 20ft and possibly we don't know for sure, causing further injury and tragic results. but i do want to point out cruise today says it will comply. right. and pause its operations. so does that mean no more taxis or is it okay if a human is still sitting in the car? no. >> so that's an ongoing question . the suspension of their permits today relates to driverless operations. cruise could still test for the human driver behind the wheel and it's unclear if cruise will continue commercial operations with a human behind the wheel again today so that that's a question that remains ongoing at this time. >> do you know what happens to its expansion plans? i know tokyo big hoopla. right. and i know there are other i mean, that's a densely populated city. is that going to come to an end or pause cruise has not said that. >> it's pausing any of its other

plans or operations that are ongoing across the country. austin, texas is another big location where they're they're currently operating. and, you know, they're big plans to try and scale globally by 2025. so uh- that i don't see them stopping right now. right now, the dmv only has regulatory authority in california and nothing has happened at any of the other places where cruise is operating or plans to operate. >> sometimes these things have a ripple effect, though, so we'll see how come alphabet's waymo is still able to operate and seems to be able to avoid the headlines. any sign that their technology is simply better or are they just luckier? >> well, that's a good question. we don't have public performance benchmarks or metrics to help us really measure which company may be succeeding and which may not be from a technology perspective. it's kind of a it's hard to tell from the outside. but but certainly, i think if you look at the incidents and look at the concerns that have

been expressed by officials from , say, sfmta, a lot of it has to do with cruise vehicles. now, today's action kind of underscores that. and it's an interesting question because a lot of times i think robotaxis get lumped together as one thing. but but maybe it's time to decouple that idea and start viewing them on a company by company performance basis. i mean, that's how we look at, you know, other cars, right? >> we don't say all carmakers are bad or, you know, have problems or issues to fix. but i want to ask you, what does it take? do you think, for avs in general to be able to operate safely in an urban environment in which you do constantly have unpredictable factors? >> you do, but that's operating in an environment that's dense. you know, there's no way to get around that really is, you know, we don't expect them to be perfect, but, but, but having some clear standards would probably go a long way. and right now that both federally and at state levels, that that's kind of hard to come by is

exactly what we're willing to accept as pedestrians or consumers or or as a society might be in terms of the performance level that we're expecting from robots axes. >> look, is this only cruise cruise as a company only is pain or is this a broader pain, you know, broader impact really on on i don't know, the environment, the whole industry. >> yeah. you know, when there's a plane crash, i think it's bad for the whole industry. so in some sense this is bad for the entire robotaxi industry. as we mentioned before, there's a lot of consumers who probably lump them together as one thing uh- practically speaking, you know, waymo is still operating in san francisco, though, so this may give them a leg up. we don't know how long. cruise will be suspended. this this practically probably gives waymo a leg up in san francisco, but i think that's probably viewing the battle of not the not the bigger, you know, war for consumers, so to speak. all right. >> so, pete, what does it take for cruise to get back on track? right. what does it take for them to end the suspension here?

>> the dmv has says they've provided crews with these steps to get their license reinstated. did, but we don't know yet exactly. again, like what is the performance metric that must be met. we know that they need to be operating safely. we know that because of both the california dmv today and a broader federal investigation that the national highway traffic safety administration started last week looking at cruise and its actions around pedestrians. you know, i think this is obviously going to have a lot to do with how cruise vehicles behave around pedestrians, not just when they avoiding them, but how they actually behave when something might be considered a near miss. so i think that's probably the low hanging fruit. and then the other, you know, aspect of this that the dmv will probably address in those steps to get reinstated is, boy, you omitted key information here. you you misrepresented what went down in this particular incident. uh, there's got to be some some

regaining of trust on the regulatory side. and i don't know how that happens. that's probably a lot harder in some way than just fixing the software right. >> and who knows? i mean, cruise could be facing serious lawsuits or liability in other ways in this case. so we'll see how that goes. p bigelow with automotive news. thank you so much for all that information. appreciate it. thanks for having me. >> have a great day. >> we'll be right back with the lawsuit that meta is now facing, fueling the argument that social media may be addictive to children. so what can you do about it? that's

its platforms to hook them and lower their self-esteem. joining us live now to talk about tools that parents have to protect their kids who use social media, titania tanya jordan, chief parent officer of bark, an app that allows for parental controls. tanya, thanks for your time. thank you so much for having me. the lawsuit claims that meta has been employing harmful and psychological manipulative platforms while misleading the public and the safety of those features. i won't ask you to comment on the merits of the lawsuit, but being in the business of parental control tools, what is your understanding of the degree that children can be psychologically manipulated on social media platforms such as meta's, instagram? >> so it's no secret that every parent is feeling this in some way that children even are being harmed by being on digital devices and social media and whether it's bullying,

predation, eating disorder, related content, suicidal ideation, an exposure to extreme violence, sexual graphic content . it's really not a matter of if, but when. so i'd like to zoom out from meta and all of its properties to really just every platform, every screen that a child is in front of what are they consuming and how is it affecting them? >> do you have any metrics or any data that points to the harm that has come from children using social media? >> i fortunately or unfortunately how you want to look at it. i do. over the course of 2022, we analyzed over 4.5 billion data points across children's text, social media and email, and the rate at which children as young as six, seven and eight years old encountered problems, content and problematic people is off the charts. 35% of tweens and 64% of teens were involved in a self-harm or suicidal situation on and that's just for the

self-harm and suicide category. we alert for so many categories of problematic content for parents and again, we're talking about children. >> i was going to say, you know something we are all exposed to even you and i. but does it do something extra harmful to the teen or younger, less developed brain? >> well, i'm noct. i can speak to this as a parent and also as a consumer. and we know that humans are not meant to be sedentary for long periods of time and we're not meant to be constantly stimulated by a screen all the time. we've got to get out and move our bodies, engage all of our five senses, read actual books, engage with real humans in real life. there's so much more to life than what's behind a screen. and we do know that these screens, these platforms, these algorithms stimulate the pleasure center of your brain and too much of a good thing is not a good thing. >> that's the addictive part, right, that the lawsuit refers to. i'm going to get to what

bach does. but real quickly, i just want to show our viewers what meta's response was to today's lawsuit. they said in part, we're disappointed that instead of working productively with companies across the industry to create clear age appropriate standards for the many apps teens use. the attorneys general have chosen this path. obviously, meta not pleased. but let me ask you, what can parents do short of taking away the apps and devices , which if you're a parent, i'm a parent, i know that's not exactly realistic. you can't just take it away. >> it's not realistic. but also don't hesitate to delay. you don't have to give your child the, you know, smartphone with all the bells and whistles. you don't have to give them access to social media, certainly not before the age of 13. it's okay to wait. but when you do give access, please don't do so in an ignorant manner. i'm not trying to put anybody down, but you don't send your kid to the mall unsupervised or to an international airport without walking along beside them. don't let them access roblox or snapchat or tiktok or anything

else unless you have navigated it first. we cannot hand these powerful tools and communicate platforms to our children without having some sort of understanding of them and then sitting alongside them and guiding them. >> right. that's a good point. okay. so i know there are different parental tools or controls out there. i used circle at one point. that's one of them. but let's talk about bark, your company. what does it enable parents to prevent track or take action on? >> sure. you know what sets bark apart from other options out there is our advanced content monitoring. so while you have tons of options at your disposal, free and paid for screen time and filtering and that sort of thing, and we offer that to you, what no other company is doing right now is digging deep into the context and content and then sending you parent caregiver an alert when there's a problem. it's so hard to try to find what's happening with your kids when they're buried in front of a screen. and i helps to do that heavy lifting

for you, huh? >> so does that utilize ai to do so? does it analyze what could be problematic or sign that this kid is really in trouble? yes >> yes. yeah. you know, every single day at bark, we are sending between 85 and 100 severe self-harm or suicide ideation alerts about kids. we've escalated over 1200 predators to law enforcement. we are surfacing real dangers that people need to take action on. >> so let's say you put this on. does your kid know? is there a sign that, hey, my parents are using bark and should they know, should there be a trust factor where you're honest to your kid about it? >> we absolutely advocate for open, honest communication with your child, just like you don't hide a seatbelt or a fire alarm or sunscreen. let them know that you are entrusting responsible usage of this tool in their care. but as their parent, you're responsible for any bad actions or bad actors. so you're going to install this thing called bark. it's going to alert you as the parent to problems

and then you guys can talk about it and face them together. i don't recommend spying on your child or keeping it from them. that's not conducive to a healthy relationship. >> right? right. i hear you. i did talk to the kids. you know, when we set a time limit per day and, you know, they may not like it, but they accept it. and, you know, you just got to be honest. okay. real quickly, before i let you go, i wonder if you i know you check out all the different platforms. is there one that isn't potentially dangerous or toxic? i read an article today about how more teens are now navigating linkedin or they're going over there because it's a place where i don't know, there's less toxicity and they celebrate people's achievements. what do you think? >> you know what? i endorse linkedin. linkedin is great. i spend a lot of time there. haven't seen too many teens there, but if they want to come and build up their future careers in connection, go for it. >> all right. well, really appreciate your insights on navigating social media these days. it certainly isn't easy. to tanya with bach, thank you so much. >> thank you.

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japanese immigrants. but you may not think of it as a focal point for egyptian history. yet it is. our media partner, the san francisco standard, has a new article out asking why is there an ancient egyptian museum in san jose? joining us live now is christine campodonico. she is sf standards arts and culture reporter. christine, thanks for your time. >> thank you so much. >> fascinating article. this little known museum is quite the gem. tell us about it. >> yes. so the rose, the rosicrucian egyptian museum is located in san jose, california. it houses more than 4000 ancient

egyptian objects and it houses the largest collection of such objects in western north america. >> all right. well, how did such a museum end up in san jose? and who are the rosicrucians? >> yes. so the rosicrucians, the american order was founded by h. spencer lewis in new york in 1915. and he decided to move the headquarters out to san jose in 1927. the museum tells me that he was attracted to the free thinking ways of california, but also land was pretty cheap and affordable at that time. so there it was. it got located to just san jose. >> so what artifacts are at the museum? we are looking at some video that you supply to us. walk us through some of the items. >> oh, yes. so the museum houses a five mummies, a number of animal mummies as well, including cats, baby crocodiles, a number of different birds. there are even ancient egyptian

hair extensions. there's a 3500 year old senet game, which was a popular board game in ancient egyptian times and a life size statue of cleopatra. >> whoa. okay how did they get all that? >> yes. so h. spencer lewis and the rosicrucians acquired a number of artifacts from the ancient egyptian city of amarna and in the 1920s. and the conception for the museum began with one lioness goddess statue and sort of grew from there. the group conducted another journey through egypt in 1929, which led to the donation of a number of artifacts. and now they have 4000. you know, when i think of when i first heard the word rosicrucian and looked it up a little bit, it reminded me of like reading a dan brown novel. >> i wonder when you walk through the museum, you know, do some of those thoughts. come to mind? what does it feel like? >> yes. so it does carry a bit

of a aura of mystery and history as well. there are a number of ancient objects from sarcophagi to mummies to clay tablets from ancient mesopotamia to there's a replica of the rosetta stone as well. and it's a it's interesting, fascinate sting and a little quirky. >> yeah. no you know, anything that's kind of a secret society and thought of that way certainly is interesting and quirky. so what about the museum? how do folks visit it? you know, what is the fee and is it much like a regular museum? >> yes, it's very much like a regular museum. so the museum is open fridays, saturdays and sundays. admission is $10. and also on the museum grounds, there's a labyrinth, a research library, an outdoor peace garden, and even a planetarium. >> i heard that the grounds are also pretty amazing. >> yes, they are indeed. so definitely take some time to walk through the grounds and not

just the museum. if you decide to go, we'll try to do that. >> by the way, how did you end up writing this article? >> so actually, i had a friend who was visiting from out of town and we she was staying in san jose and i was looking up things to do and i found it that way, like fun things to do near me in san jose. >> i've tried that before. well, for dating christine campodonico s of standards arts and culture. reporter thank you so much for that. thank you for having me. a reminder you can get our live newscasts breaking news, weather and more with our abc7 bay area streaming tv app. it's available on apple tv, google tv, fire tv and roku. just search abc7 bay area and download it now. also you can always read the sf standard's fascinating articles at their website. that is sf standard.com. as you know there are media partner and we periodically every tuesday and thursday certainly and sometimes more feature there interesting fascinating original reporting so that's sf standard.com we'll

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a study published in the british medical journal has found that ultra processed foods may be as addictive as cigarets or heroin. according to the study, the combination of refined carbohydrates and fats has a super addictive effect on brain reward systems in total. researchers say 14% of adults and 12% of kids are addicted to ultra processed foods. alcatraz will mark its 50th anniversary as a national park later this week. so there's a special

celebration on today. alcatraz island opened as a military fort in 1850 before it transitioned to a military prison and ultimately a notorious maximum security federal penitentiary in 1934. it closed 29 years later. the national park service purchased alcatraz, along with fort mason, in 1972, and it opened as a national park, a year later, a place that i always love to visit. thank you so much for joining us for getting answers today. we'll be here every weekday at 3:00, answering questions with experts from around the bay area. world news tonight with david muir is next. and i'll see you back here at 4:00. bye bye tonight, breaking news involving the hostages. what sources are now telling abc news. also, the abc news exclusive tonight. the extraordinary turn by one of donald trump's closest advisers. mark meadows now breaking with the president. and the pilot who