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>> jimmy: thanks to earvin "magic" johnson, josé andrés and jordan davis. apologies to matt damon. we did run out of time for him. "nightline" is next. thanks for watching. good night! [ cheering and applause ] this is "nightline." >> tonight, the netanyahu exclusive. >> we're fighting an enemy that is particularly brutal. >> dave muir one-on-one with
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israel's prime minister. his first network interview since the start of the war. pressed on the climbing death toll, whether israel knows the whereabouts of the hostages. and the biden administration's call for humanitarian pause. >> if hamas agrees to release the hostages, will there be a pause? >> and a hard question about the future. >> who should govern gaza when this is over? plus, elijah mcclain, the third officer tried for the 2019 death in colorado of the unarmed black man. a verdict regioned by the jury. and mariah carey. the star says her own tough childhood makes her determined to bring christmas cheer to her audience. ♪ baby all i want for christmas is you ♪ >> all she wants, an upcoming holiday tour. >> here is me trying to reach out to you, giving you the meriest of christmases. >> and what she's got in store for fans. >> there is new music on the horizon. so it's exciting.
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operations in gaza city, calleding the photoing in, quote, close quarters urban warfare. the hamas-run health ministry in gaza saying as many as 10,000 civilians have been killed since the war began exactly one month ago. abc's david muir spoke with netanyahu earlier today, and the prime minister's first one-on-one interview since the war broke out. >> mr. prime minister, thank you for joining us here. i know you spoke with president biden just a short time ago. president biden has repeatedly said that israel has every right to defend itself, has an obligation to defend its people. we also know what the administration is now saying, calling for a humanitarian pause to help get aid into gaza and to help minimize the deaths of palestinian civilians. will there be a pause? >> first of all, let me say that i deeply appreciate, as do the entire people of israel president biden's and the american government and the american people's support for israel with great moral clarity. i think there is -- the question
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of a ceasefire, the president himself has said that a ceasefire would be a surrender to hamas. it would be a victory for hamas, and you would no more have it than you would have a ceasefire after the al qaeda bombings of the world trade center. >> i know the biden administration has also said now is not the time for a ceasefire. what they're proposing is a humanitarian pause. there will be no pause? >> well, there will be no ceasefire, general ceasefire in gaza without the release of our hostages. as far as tactical little pauses, an hour here, an hour there, we've had them before. i suppose we'll check the circumstances in order to enable goods, humanitarian goods to come in or our hostages, individual hostages to leave. but i don't think there is going to be a general ceasefire. it's not that i don't think. i think it will hamper the war effort. it will hamper our effort to get our hostages out. because the only thing that works on these criminals in hamas is the military pressure that we're exerting.
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>> if hamas agrees to release the hostages, then there would be a pause? >> well, there would be a ceasefire for that purpose. and we're waiting for that to happen. it hasn't happened so far. >> do you know where the hostages are? do you know where the americans are? >> we have some intelligence. i'm not sure it's wise to share it here with hamas. >> i know you said you're doing everything to minimize civilian casualties. obviously, the world saw the horror in israel, the 1400 brutally killed in that terror attack. we were on the ground for several days, as you know. but the world has now also seen the toll in gaza. the health ministry run by hamas now says 10,000 palestinian civilians have been killed, 4,000 of them children. i'm not asking about hamas here. i'm asking about the 10,000 civilians killed. are you concerned about the number of civilians that we've seen lost caught in the middle of this conflict? >> i think every civilian loss is a tragedy. every civilian life lost is a
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tragedy. we're fighting an enemy that is particularly brutal. they're using their civilians as human shields. and while we're asking the palestinian civilian population to leave the war zone, they're preventing them at gunpoint. they're using them as human shields. >> i know you have told palestinian civilians to move to the south. we know that there have been strikes in the south as well. we should just point that out. when you talk about the tactics used by hamas, the world is aware of those tactics. are you taking that into account? because when you start to see numbers that are difficult to wrap your head around, 10,000 palestinian civilians, is there a more targeted approach in going after hamas being explored here to try to minimize the number of palestinian civilians who are not hamas, who are not militants, who have lost their lives here? >> the answer is yes. first of all, i wouldn't take those numbers at face value. we have to check them, and there
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are quite a few -- several thousand palestinian combatants there, that is hamas terrorists that are incorporated in those numbers. it's a very tough enemy, but we can't let them have immunity. if we let them have immunity, david, then barbarians win. >> you have refused any temporary pause that doesn't include the return of hostages. you mentioned that right here with me again today. i'm curious what you would say to the families of hostages who believe that this mounting civilian death toll in gaza, now at 10,000 is putting their own loved ones, these hostages at greater risk. >> well, we're taking that into consideration, believe me. no one wants to get our hostages back more than us. i think that it's important to understand that there is no way to defeat terrorists embedded in a civilian population without going in as targeted a way as you can against the terrorists. but there will be, unfortunately, these civilian casualties. we'll do again and again, i'll
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say it, we'll do everything in our power to reduce that. >> you spoke with president biden just before you came on the air to talk with me. does he agree with you on this, no pause unless hostages? or is this a disagreement with president biden? >> we agree on many things. i've known president biden, i've known joe biden for 40 years. he is a great, great supporter of israel, and he is a great friend. it's trying times for both of us and for the people of israel, and our friends. we understand that. but we have to stand together. and i think we stand together. >> but there is daylight here on this notion of a humanitarian pause. you don't agree with the biden administration on that? >> we agree that we have to provide humanitarian assistance. we're doing it and coordinating it with our american friends and with president biden. we'll do whatever we can. we don't want to give hamas the opportunity to endanger our soldiers. we saw that until we started the ground action, there was no pressure on them to release hostages. what we see is the minute we started the ground action, there is pressure. >> i know israel prides itself
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on its intelligence capabilities. we now know the hamas attack had been planned for months. we saw the training videos. of course, we saw the thousands of hamas terrorists swarming into israel. how did your government miss this? >> it's a very good question, because the first task of government is to protect the people. and clearly, we didn't live up to that. we had a big, big setback. >> as prime minister, do you personally bear any responsibility here? >> i've said that there are going to be very tough questions that are going to be asked, and i'm going to be among the first to answer them. we're not going to evade it. the responsibility of a government is to protect the people. and clearly that responsibility wasn't met. >> but owe know what i'm asking here, because so many israeli officials including the defense minister, the military, the intelligence chief, the military chief of staff, they've all taken some responsibility for israel being caught off guard. they didn't say we have to wait for an investigation here. do you believe that you should take any responsibility? >> of course. that's not a question. it's going to be resolved after
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the war. i think there will be time to allocate that. we're all sitting here. the responsibility of government, the responsibility of me as prime minister is protect the people of israel. we could not achieve, that leerily. we didn't achieve that but we have to decide exactly what we need to do differently next time. right now we have one thing to do, and that is to win the war. and i'm not dealing with my personal fate. i'm dealing with the fate of the country. >> president biden has said it would be a mistake for israel to occupy gaza. who should govern gaza when this is over? >> those who don't want to continue the way of hamas, and certainly not -- i think israel will for an indefinite period will have the overall security responsibility because we've seen what happens when we don't have it. when we don't have the security responsibility, what we have is the eruption of hamas terror on a scale that we couldn't imagine. do. >> you have a warning to iran,
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to hezbollah? >> i think they've understood that if they enter the war in a significant way, the response will be very, very powerful. and i hope they don't make that mistake. >> mr. prime minister, thank you for taking the time for us. i appreciate it. >> thank you, david. >> byron: our david muir. will continue to cover the developments in the israel-hamas war. late this afternoon the 2019 death of elijah mcclain officer nathan woodyard placing him in a chokehold. here is pierre th>>omas. reporter: tonight a colorado police officer has been acquitted in the killing of elijah mcclain, a young man whose death shocked the nation. >> we the jury find the defendant nathan woodyard nod guilty of manslaughter reckless and the lesser secluded offense of criminally negligent homicide. >> reporter: nathan woodyard would place mcclain in a neck
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hold which has since been banned. but his defense arguing mcclain was alive when he released him and it was a fatal dose of ketamine that contributed to mcclain's death. it comes weeks after another officer was acquitted in mcclain's death while yet another was convicted. it was august 2019 and mcclain, a massage therapist was walking home after buying iced tea from a convenience store. police confronting mcclain after receiving a report of a suspicious person wearing a ski mask. but what they didn't know according to elijah's family is that he wore a ski mask because he was anemic and often cold. police grabbed him within seven seconds. the officers applied a chokehold. >> give us some more units. we're fighting him. >> i'm dying. i have no -- i don't do that stuff. i don't even kill flies. >> reporter: clearly in pain, at one point he says the phrase now infamous, i can't breathe. >> paramedics later inject
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mcclain with that powerful drug. he was declared brain dead days later and died in the hospital. >> our thanks to pierre. officer randy rotema was convict and will be sentenced on january 5th. two paramedics are set to face trial later this month. when we come back, ending on the upbeat. mariah carey hoping to bring joy to the world on our holiday tour. to severe plaque psoriasis. now i feel free to bare my skin, thanks to skyrizi. ♪(uplifting music)♪ ♪nothing is everything♪ i'm celebrating my clearer skin... my way. with skyrizi, 3 out of 4 people achieved 90% clearer skin at 4 months. in another study, most people had 90% clearer skin, even at 5 years. and skyrizi is just 4 doses a year, after 2 starter doses. serious allergic reactions and an increased risk of infections
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christmas is you. it's hard to think of mariah carey and not think of christmas music. she tells my "nightline" co-anchor juju chang that's just how she likes it. >> it's time! >> juju: is it ever too early to play christmas music? >> well, that's the whole thing where it's time came from. because everybody would be playing christmas music. and not yet. >> juju: you're like the arbiter of christmas. >> i know. it seems that way. ♪ >> juju: she may be the arbiter of christmas, but s is so queen of the charts. the five-time grammy award winner has the most number one singles by a solo artist ever, with timeless hits like "fantasy" ♪ "we belong together" "emotions" showcasing her famous five octave range. ♪ ♪ there is just one thing i
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need ♪ >> juju: but it's "all i want for christmas is you clothes cementing the fop diva's reign over the season. released nearly 30 years ago, it's currently number one on billboard's greatest of all time holiday songs, and has earned her an estimated $72 million. i also read that you wrote that song or copwrote that song in a meat of 15 minutes. >> essentially. >> it was pretty fast. ♪ i don't care about the presents underneath the christmas tree ♪ >> i was working by myself. i was ♪ writing. and then on this little casio keyboard, and writing down words and thinking about what do i think of at christmas? what do i love? what do i want? what do i dream of? and that's what started it. ♪ all i want for christmas is you ♪ . >> juju: it's timeless. >> that was my goal. to do something timeless, it didn't feel like the 90s which is when i wrote it. >> juju: why do you think this
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has such an enduring appeal? >> i think it's because i truly love the holidays. it's not fake. ♪ is you ♪ >> juju: there is no faking mariah carey's love for christmas, including her personal holiday traditions with her now 12-year-old twins roc and roe. >> we go out on a open two-horse sleigh. >> juju: you do that for real? >> do that for real. >> juju: also for real, the songstress is now launching a 14 city christmas season tour called "merry christmas one and all". >> it's amazing. so many different races, ages, types of people. and they were just there to have a great time. >> juju: her peaceful nature born perhaps of a harrowing childhood. she detailed the painful moments in their 2020 memoir, "the meaning of mariah carey." you wrote very poignantly that your childhood was messy, far
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from perfect, and in many ways what you want to give to your kids and your fans is this perfect magical christmas. >> that's true. i know nothing is perfect, but just to give from your soul and give to someone elsewhere we're all just coming together and enjoying being together. >> juju: in her memoir, the singer describing those early years which she says were full of neglect and abuse, writing "something in me was arrested by all that trauma." how would you describe the triumphant over adversity story that is mariah carey? >> i think really i did my best to get much of the story out there and really deep dive into who i am as a person and why certain things are the way they are with me. that was my main thing, was to really sort of emancipate my inner child. >> juju: her music now celebrating that inner child.
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her own children taking part in all the magic. and i love how your twins come out on tour with you. >> yeah. >> juju: last year you sang a duet. >> with my daughter. ♪ ♪ and this for heaven to live with you there ♪ >> juju: does your daughter have the whistle octave? >> i think she kind of has it. she just had to play with it. >> juju: how did you discover it? >> well, it was a thing i would be waking up for school and be really tired so i would be hoarse. and no, i don't want toe get up, i don't want to get up. >> juju: do you think either of them will follow your footsteps? >> i don't know. i hope so in some ways. i don't want to say they're my friends. uh ugh, my mom is corny. >> juju: but you have to be the cool mom. >> no, i'm not a regular mom. i'm the cool mom. >> juju: while she is definitely a cool mom ringing in the holidays on her nationwide tour,
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>> byron: and finally tonight, a big moment in new york city this evening at the stand-up for heroes benefit. ♪ friday night guys fresh out of work ♪ >> byron: bruce springsteen took the stage in a surprise performance after recently taking time off due to health issues. the boss in fine form, sharing the stage with john mellencamp and then solo, standing up for the bob woodruff foundation. ♪ just dancing in the dark ♪

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