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to the protest outside in the high stakes meeting between president joe biden and china's president xi jinping, on the sidelines of the summit. thanks so much for being here for getting answers on a wednesday. i'm julian glover. let's get right to the news of the day. of course, it's all about that big meeting between joe biden and president xi. just wrapping up after about four hours of discussion. but both heads of state arrived at about 11 a.m. at the philadelphia estate in woodside. it was a cordial reception between the two world leaders, despite not speaking since last year and during the first moment shared with the media, it was obvious the relationship between the countries is somewhat tense. here's what each had to say through translators. we have to ensure that competition does not veer into conflict and we also have to manage it. >> response ably. the competition. that's what the united states wants and what we intend to do. >> china-us relationship has never been smooth sailing over the past 50 years or more, and it always faces problems of one kind or another. and yet it has kept moving forward amid twists

and turns for two large countries like china and the united states, turning their back on each other is not an option. >> president xi called china's relationship with the us the most important in the world, and said the world is big enough for both countries to coexist peacefully. well, president biden is expected to speak in just about an hour from now. but first let's go to abc7 news anchor kristen sze for more on the perception of this meeting, not just here but also in china. hi kristin. >> that's right. it's very interesting, julian, to compare the different perceptions right now because obviously oftentimes perception turns into reality. 8-80 so today we wanted to turn things around and also get the chinese side and perspective from journalists coming from china to cover what is happening here at the apec summit. so with us, we're very fortunate to have her here is liu xing. she is quite a famous journalist and show host, podcast host from china. and your show is.

or cgtn, cn that is the network and your show is called the point with liu xing. >> right. thank you very much. christine yes, it is a great pleasure to be on abc7 here in the bay area. my very first time here in western west coast tv. so i'm very excited and thank you for the opportunity. >> i feel a kinship to you already. you host a show. i host a show getting answers, and we just talk to people. we try to find out what people are thinking. and this being your first time here, i'll start with this. what is your impression of san francisco so far? >> i haven't had time to take it in because i've been so busy. a lot has happened, actually. we just drove from los angeles to san francisco yesterday at night and we plunged into to working and we arrived at the hotel late. so i will take some time off. but i have to say, we we're in an area where there were a lot of homeless people. so unfortunately, by now, i haven't

seen the full picture of san francisco, but i will do, i believe, san francisco is a nice place with, you know, areas of more homeless people. but, you know, also nicer areas. i'm sure you mentioned seeing some homeless. >> and that's been one of the struggles for the city. i'm very curious what the impression is in china in reports and in the media and what people think in terms of when they think of san francisco, when they think of california, what comes to mind? >> well, i want to bring you this picture. i prepared this picture because it's a very special one. and i don't think many people have seen that. >> oh, is that xi jinping in san francisco a long time ago as a young man? >> yeah. this was 38, 38 years ago when he first visited the united states. he was stopping over in san francisco on his way to ohio to meet farmers there. he was still a junior official in north in north china, in a small town. and you can see he was very young back then. and he

mentioned this visit to governor newsom when he was meeting when they were meeting in beijing during governor newsom's meeting . and he said this is his very first stopover in the united states was san francisco. so i thought that's a very personal touch. you know, when you go to a place, the first impression is always very, very important. and from that picture and the fact that he was recalling this visit, this visit 38 years later to the californian governor, i think that's a very important message to the american people and to the chinese people that personally, he has good will towards san francisco, towards america, towards the american people. that's that's why i think it is it is important that i bring this image and show it to the people of san francisco that the chinese president remember, was the city and has a good memory. >> see, everybody has a good memory at the golden gate bridge. that part is certainly true, too. you should you should. but i do want to ask you, does it feel like there is

a new feel, a new page, a new chapter? because as you know, i don't think it's a secret on both sides of the pacific, tensions have been ratcheting up over the last few years for a variety of reasons. a lot of it is geopolitical, but also the pandemic. and i wonder if you feel like the headlines coming out of china now sound a little different towards this apec summit. >> you mean the headlines about america? yes, absolutely. i think people the relationship and whether it's friend or foe. yeah, well, i think it is very obvious there has been a series of efforts by both sides to pave to lead to this point where the two presidents can meet after almost exactly one year when they met in bali, indonesia, asia, because in china, as president xi has said many times, that there is a thousand reason to build this relationship, to make this relationship work, and there is no reason for this relationship

not to work because we are the two largest economies. and how many jobs for both sides is that this can create? why don't we you know, well, you mentioned the reasons why it should work, which biden iterated today. >> right. saying we can compete, but we don't have to be enemies. and president xi said, you know, the world is big enough for the two of us, but in terms of there being reasons to for it to not work, those exist as well, right . and, you know, taiwan is just one of them. but there are other issues as well. so my question to you is how are i guess, is it the feeling that there are places where we can work together and we will and other things we just let them be or do those things still seem insurmountable? well, and get in the way of any potential cooperation on economics or sustainability or environmental issues? >> yeah, well, it's just like two people dealing with each other. if we try to get along and if we believe that our relationship is very important, not just for the two of us, but

for people around us, what do we do? are we going to keep, you know, getting tangled, getting wrapped up by the issues that we can't change for the moment? different values probably different systems, different personalities. but if there are things we can work on, why don't we work on that? but i think the problem, the difference that i saw from this morning's meeting between the opening remarks between the two presidents is very important. and i want to repeat that because the exact wording makes a lot of difference. and i wrote it down. president biden said we have to ensure that competition does not veer into conflict and we also have to manage the competition responsibly. but president xi said, i am still of the view that major country competition is not the prevailing trend of current times and cannot not solve the problems facing china and the united states or the world at large. so it's not about how we solve the differences, whether we solve the differences, but we find a way to understand the nature of

our relationship is it a is it one that's defined by competition or is it one defined by by cooperation? we can work together, i mean, or both. >> i want to ask you, though, because our viewers are very interested in in in terms of, you know, media coverage. you see here, there are a lot of supporters and protesters. they get to be on the streets. they get to speak their minds in terms of coverage in china when people think is there actual government control, can you report on what you want? can you say what you want on your program? what do you tell people ? >> i tell people what i see and i say what i believe in. that's how i do my job. and you don't worry about censorship? well i say things that i believe in. so and i and i've been working in the chinese tv for 25 years, and i've seen the country transform from from a poor and backward place to where it is now, where the united states is feeling threatened. and what do i have to worry about? i mean, china must have done something right, including the media, the news.

and i think that's the question people should ask. how come a country that america sees is not free, is controlled, is authoritarian? how come it's doing something right? it lifted 800 million people. that's more than twice the population of the united states out of poverty. absolute poverty, i should say. how did china manage that? i mean, let's not be bogged down by the questions that we can't answer, but look into the solutions, how we find to address our problems and learn from each other. maybe >> i think that has been addressed in multiple forums and that's the solution folks are seeking. thank you for sharing your thoughts with us. liu xing, very interesting. thank you. i and please go visit the golden gate bridge. >> i will after this. thank you so much for giving me that platform. >> i really absolutely all right. >> by the way, i will use this this clip on my show as well. >> all right. there you go. getting answers in china as well. julian, how do you like that? >> we're taking the show on the road. christine i like it a lot and especially enjoyed that

young image of president xi there that was presented to you. very interesting to see. however. >> shall we talk some more? >> yeah. sorry, julian. there's some sort of pr announcement, so i can't really hear you, but i'm going to send it back to you. >> okay? thank you so much, christine. coming up here on getting answers, of course, the main topic today at the apec summit is innovation. ahead, we'll hear from one business leader who attended today's ceo summit

to governor gavin newsom is here for that. and this morning, he took a tour of a flying taxi that's being developed right

here in the bay area by a company called wisk. abc7 news anchor kristen sze talked to the ceo of this innovation forum of transport nation. >> i'm here at moscone west where the ceo summit kicked off this morning. this is where the thought leaders, entrepreneurs, ceos and world leaders and stakeholders come together to talk about the opportunity and challenges in shaping our futures, both economic and environmental futures. but you know what? it's not all talk. there are also a lot of innovative demonstrations in terms of the technology that's available today. and one hot company that's making waves is wisk aero, based in mountain view. it makes electric self-flying taxis, and they're betting on air taxis really being part of our transportation network of the future. >> so we build autonomous electric aircraft and the whole goal is to bring safe, clean and quiet aviation close to where people live, such as in the bay area. exactly so we're based in mountain view. we fly in hollister, and we've actually flown recently in the los angeles area. and the goal ultimately is to save people

time, but to do it with something, to do it with an aircraft that's really safe and clean. >> how is it powered? how does it work, if you will? and then to how does that help our goals for sustainability and carbon emissions bring that down to zero. it's powered with battery electric powertrain, so it has the same kind of battery cells that are in your laptop or in your cell phone. >> we just have many thousands of them that we put together in a very safe way. so this aircraft is able to fly and it has zero emissions. and that's great. obviously for the climate, but it's also great for air quality in cities. we don't pollute in cities. and so we're able to move people around close to where they live without polluting. >> so do you envision a fleet of these here in the bay area? you don't envision individuals owning it the way they plug in their evs, right? >> yeah, that's correct. these won't be individually owned. we will ultimately operate a transport service and our vision is to actually have what we call vertiports or places where you can go to get on an airplane on one of these airplanes around the bay area and around major cities, around the world. so we

have designed the system so that it's only passengers is on board. there's four passengers on board. we also have variants where we can carry passengers and cargo or cargo only, but ultimately there is no controls on board. they're supervised off board by a human. >> could an individual, a normal person, afford a ride in one of these, you think? >> yes. so the goal is actually to get the cost of service down to what is typical in a rideshare environment. >> so this is so jetsons like, when do you envision it becoming reality? >> we're going to roll out the service this decade. so before 2030, we're flying our test airplanes right now and we're in the middle of an faa certification program. >> you'll invite me for a test drive. >> i would love to have you in a test flight. you and i will go together and i will prove to you by sitting at it that it's that it's safe and enjoyable to fly in. all right. >> sounds great. thanks so much. >> all right. thanks for being here. >> many presidents will speak here at the ceo summit, including president biden, tomorrow. but today the headliners are governor gavin newsom and dr. condoleezza rice, of course, also ceo. such as the

ceos of uber, pfizer and visa, all focusing on growth with sustainability in mind. this is kristen sze at moscone west. a lot more to come from here. i'll have more on your apec coverage here on abc7. >> all right, folks, you heard it here first. kristen sze wants to be one of the first in one of those new flying taxis. should be interesting to see that technology come to life. well, as san francisco takes the world stage during the apec summit, protesters are taking the opportunity to get their messages out to an international audience. ahead here on getting answers, a live report on the protest and one rally expected tonight at an event hosted by presiden

it down. protesters lined the streets near moscone center, blocking the fifth street entrance to the convention center. we want to give you a live look now at the exploratorium, where we expect demonstrators to gather tonight.

there it is. you can see the exploratorium has been transformed quite a bit for the eight packed events that will be happening there. the one this evening will be hosted by president joe biden. he'll be hosting that for heads of state and ceos. and we're hearing this is $1 million affair. people are protesting a variety of issues, though. economic inequality, global warming and the gaza-israel war. abc7 news reporter suzanne phan joining us live from outside of the exploratorium. suzanne, we know you've been talking to those protesters for the last couple of days now. what messages do they want? heard what have you seen out there? >> oh, gillian, there are so many messages that these protest writers are hoping to get out there. they know that san francisco is in the spotlight, the global spotlight because of apec, and that thousands of delegates are here. we've got leaders here from 21 member economies. and for that, they feel like they have the best platform. so a lot of these demonstrators are telling me things you have already

mentioned. they want a cease fire in gaza. and of course, they also want president xi jinping of china to hear their demands that human rights are the most important thing before economy. me before trade. now, today we went to a number of different places. we know that most of the protests have been around moscone center. and that's, of course, because we're apec has held its ground zero for apec, where all the dignitaries are, where all the foreign press is. but we also saw a lot of protests in the surrounding areas. we went to the chinese consulate first and that's where we saw more than 300 demonstrators, protesters, many of them were from tibet. some of them were from hong kong. some were from, some are uighurs, and some are chinese dissidents. now they all say they're not happy. they're not welcoming president xi jinping. they want human rights reforms. they want that issue to be addressed. now, we moved a short distance away to an area on nob

hill, and we saw more demonstrators and these were demonstrators with the falun gong movement. and they also were upset with president xi, and they did their protests or demonstration, i should say, silently. and then we moved on. and we're here now at the ferry building. and i can tell you that a demonstration is coming later on tonight. in a short while, they, of course, again, are upset and they want their message to be heard in this case. the message, again, is cease fire in gaza. that's the latest live here tonight. i'm suzanne von live in san francisco. back to you. okay >> thank you so much for that, suzanne. of course, we'll hear much more from her coming up on later editions of abc7 news. so the big question is, will these protests have an impact on the outcome of these high stakes talks that are happening between ceos and of course, heads of state. joining us live now to discuss is nancy park, cal state east bay history professor and dr. park, we appreciate your time. thanks for joining us. thanks for having me. i know you've lived on mainland china and have an expertise in chinese history. can you first discuss the importance of today's talks

between presidents biden and xi? i think they're hugely important because as your story said, this is the first time in over a year that the two presidents have met and that's a step in the right direction. >> if for those people who want to see a warmer relationships between the two countries, we know so much of what's happening here is kind of rebuilding on ground that was lost after the former house speaker nancy pelosi visited taiwan. >> can you explain for our audience why america's treatment of taiwan carries so much diplomatic weight in the us china relationship? well taiwan is a really complex issue. >> it the origins start back at the chinese civil war, which the communist won. there are two governments. one is the government on mainland on mainland china, the beijing government, and that's the government that the united states has diplomatic relations with taiwan is right now independently ruled, but is not

an independent country. and from the chinese perspective, chinese mainland perspective, it's one country and china is a rogue province. so when the united states or when nancy pelosi went to visit, it's it sends a message to the chinese public on mainland china that the united states is supporting what they consider to be a rogue government. right. >> and, of course, that caused the kind of frosty relationship to develop between biden and xi. the two haven't spoken, certainly not face to face in over a year. so that's why these talks happening at veolia state, which we are hearing just wrapped up moments ago, is so important here. we've heard from president biden earlier this week saying that he wants to just normalize direct communications between america and china. of course, there's so much conflict happening in the world globally right now. of course, israel and hamas and also russia and ukraine. so it's

really important that these two world superpowers are on the same page. do you think that the two will be successful, full in hammering out those differences to at least have those diplomatic and military ties be reopened? >> well, the two countries are not on the same page about a lot of different things. they're not on the same page completely about taiwan. they're not on the same page about human rights. they have different attitudes towards trade relations. but i think that there are some issues that can be solved, like climate change is maybe not solved, but can be improved with cooperation on. there are other issues like military to military communication, which just speaking for myself, i would like there to be communicate actions before as opposed to no communication between the two sides. so even though all the problems can't be solved, i think some of them can be the situation can be improved with cooperation and want to talk about the large scale protests that have been staged from the peninsula to the moscone center and beyond. >> some of those demonstrations have been organized by the no to

aipac coalition. when do you think these groups working in tandem will have an impact on the outcome of this week? >> that's an interesting question. i i'm wondering how much the chinese people are going to see of those protests, because because some of the protesters well, in addition to protesters, there are supporters of china that have been lining the routes also. and if the chinese news media, i think it's quite likely, will be showing those and not the other protests. so to that extent, it depends on how much xi jinping wants to have this good relationship. and if he wants to have positive of a positive impression about what he's achieved, the chinese people might not even see these protests. >> such a great point. and of course, perception is often reality. but if you don't see what's happening, then of course your perception is shaped and boxed in in different ways very quickly before we have to let you go here, dr. park, as we sift through the just all of the

headlines that we'll see in the coming hours, learning more about exactly what was discussed between biden and xi, what's the one thing that you'll be looking for? >> i think what i'm looking for is what they say about about whether they feel like it was a productive meeting, because this is clearly be it's going to be the first of many meetings. and so if they come out and they both are speaking positive about the about the meeting that they had, then i think this is a sign of more collaborations, more efforts at mutual efforts to improve the relationship to come . >> okay. dr. nancy park, cal state, east bay history professor, we really appreciate your time. thanks for joining us . thank you. now we want to get to some breaking news right here. we have learned that the high stakes talks between president joe biden and chinese president xi jinping have ended. here is video of the two walking out of filoli estate just moments ago. we know that they

were speaking for about four hours. we brought you the breaking news of both parties arriving during midday live in the 11:00 hour. and here we have that video of them strolling the historic estates right there. we also know that president joe biden will be addressing the nation, coming up at 415. we'll br rsv can be a dangerous virus [sneeze] for those 60 and older. it's not just a cold. and if you're 60 or older... you may be at increased risk of hospitalization from this highly contagious virus. not all dangers come with warning labels. talk to your pharmacist or doctor about getting vaccinated against rsv today. rsv vaccines, including pfizer's, are now available.

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