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>> jimmy: that's a great-looking dress. >> thank you. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: is that a vintage dress? oroe yourself? >> i did >> jimmy: how far in advance do you ve shows, yeah, i do. i just love working with creati >> jimmy: yeah. what a great thing to be able to go, i want to do this, then there are people who help you make that happen. most people don't get s, like y

do it by yourself. yeah, we -- like, we come up with the dumbest ideas. [ laught i presume you maybe saw it in the dressing room. and i know that your fiance is a minnesotan just like tim walz. >> yeah, he's here now with me, but yes. >> jimmy: is he minnesota nice in that way that we know people om like, all about his life. we were going to visit his dad..

[ laughter ] >> jimmy: he showed you all the places that he hung out at? >> yeah. >> jimmy: were you bored when he >>un.hat? f he took me to a house party. >> jimmy: he did? >> yeah, yeah. and it was just like -- it was really cool. it was funny. i wasn't drinking that night, and everybody else was. like getting to hear all of his, li, nd then we'll tell you this one."o rm up to the idea that lady gaga just walked into the house party? because, you know, they >> it was just so nice. we were talking about real-life stuff. just hanging out on the porch.:.

yeah, sounds like it was fun. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: where did ppo you're so creative. you're so particular. it will be like -- i would become paralyzed if i had to figure o a way so my birthday passed, and i was i thought he was going to propad he didn't do it on your birthday. sometimes guys will do that as an excuse to only gen yotrip to. i would do anything for love. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ]e you dr h, ular, like patagonia uf y

yeah. otherwise you'd still be up there. [ laughter ] >> that's right. not good. we -- we climbed up to the top and we were just like walking back >> jimmy: asked you -- that is minnesota, yeah. >> he wanted to know i [ laughter ] and i was like, "yes!" >> jimmy: he went up to the top, and then he didn't do it at the top? >> no.

>> he had the ring in his backpack, so it was so super cute.didn't. >> jimmy: he didn't? >> you know what, i'm like -- i'm a modern lady, i like what he did. >> jimmy: okay, all right. interesting. wow, very unorthodox. >> yeah. >> jimmy: i guess you have to do something unorthodox like that. i would have done it at the top. [ laughter ]mynow will you have big italian wedding? you won't be in minnesota for the wedding, will you? that pizza must have been tewas a really good pizza. it was like gourmepiings at you? >> i don't know.my: you could d

those things. you could have your real wedding at the courthouse with, you know, noodles or whatever. [ laughter ] and then gs heard it. >> jimmy: onlyro willary my so there's going to be a lot of new edition. there's going to be -- >> that's excellent. >> jimmy: e' >> i'm ready. >> jimmy: gn [ cheering and applause ]

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phoenix and lady gaga in "folie a deux." i have to be honest with you. i love superhero movies. i don't love musicals. i went to this mov i think it really worked. yosical. it's kind of unhinged and chaotic.dn't know it was going to be like -- ♪ batman's coming ♪ like that kind of thing. wldn't though. >> jimmy: does batman know you're in this? because he's going to be upset. >> well, i'll deal with him. [ laughter ]

>> jimmy: you -- a lotth which songs. because there's a little something in every song that relates to the joker, wiet up i the song. >> you know, it's a different version.lae ] this is not the soundtrack for the movie. this is inspired by the movie yeah, you know, so it's not the soundtrack. it's a concept record. anit the world. and i was just -- i was just so inspired by this whole process.

movie, but really bend genre and make it hard to define, like my character.n e super exciting, complex, and can't be pinned down. so that's what "harlequin" is. [ cheers and applause ] you're singing. are you singing differently than you sing? normally? is that because the character wouldn't be singing asl >> jimmy: i see, okay. >> my character is definitely was, what was natural and raw to her. that, like, she's got, like, an inner storm like a bomb's going to go off in her any moment. >> jimmy: maybe literally, yeah, yeah. in the movie i sing in the

lots of different ways, though. there's moments of fantasyhem t imagine that he bagged a babe. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: did he you know, i always was trying to encourage him. raw and spontaneous as possible. i did the same for hom arthur. >> jimmy: was he intimidated, singing th y i mean, why wouldn't he be? you know he's a different type of person?myyeah.

you do. you were fantastic. >> yeah. >> no, it's not, that's its own standalone. there is a lot of smiling and a lot of death. >> yeah. cheers and applause ]te. it's on "harlequin." it it was inspired by my character, lee. and just als this, like, reflection on my life as a performer. anndeel like happiness is kind of an accident when it happens. >> jimmy: you had a secret show last night. you did -- it was secret, i didn't know about it and i went home after the movie.

maybe i wasn't invited to it, now that i'm realizing. [ laughter ] you did the whole album there? >> i did the w a actually, michael and i, we conceived of this whole concept together, this record. >> jimmy: you did, you let him conceive of this? a secret anymore. >> jimmy: well, yeah, it's over. >> keep your eyes peeled for s thte"harlequin." it is out now. lady gaga, everyone.

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>> jimmy: hi, there, welcome back. music from lady gaga is on the our next guest is the very

popular gorn of this bestseller, "true gretch." ♪ >> jimmy: i have to be honest with you, you walked out, i ] >> bring it in.s understandable. >> jimmy: how are you? thank you for coming. lady gaga's on there.ere. you've seen this playlist, i assume?

>> i have. >> jimmy: you didn't have an assistant draw this up for you? >> no, those are some of my favorites. >> jimmy: you have michiganites. eminem.gmac cash who perform on our show once. he performed a song about you. i don't see bob seager. there's no trouble with him, is there? >> i love bob seger. i saw him at a detroit lions game. >> jimmy: did you talk to him? >> he's still awesome. he's the best. >> jimmy: what are you doing in california? >> i came out to see you. >> jimmy: just to see me. there's noth >> jimmy: you watched the debate, i assume? >> i did. >> jimmy: tim walz is a friend of yours? >> i love tim walz. >> jimmy: how do the governors even know each other? >> tim and i are like tony

ebers from wisconsin and j. pritzker of illinois, we all came in together in 2018.we best to serve your constituents ohio and from indiana. we were all grappling, trying to build a plane while we're flying it. the guy in the white house was readg >> yeah. >> jimmy: you're out like knocking on doors, right? >> i was knocking on doors. it was a warm -- it was, you know, august, early august, late july, really hot.

knocking doors. a little sweaty. campaign managers notoriously have beater cars i jump in the car. "the debate is not tomorrow, it's right now!" laught sweaty, you know, wearing -- not wearing a suit, when is what i . pretty relaxed to not know what day the debate was. >> he was a young man and young men -- >> jimmy: do you think tim thk . everyone is.

some lessons from him. i think walz brought it home. i think he delivered the [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: yeah, he was saying -- he supposedly ld >> you know, i think tim is a humble guy. he's from minnesota. >> jimmy: uh-huh? >> you know, ma debate between two midwesterners. i mean, it was very, you know - audience, i think it was good for america and bad for me. [ laughter ] you have a very positive attitude. is that something you came up with or someone else did? >> someone else did. i was getting ready for my first debate as governor. emily's list sent me a debate coach. you remember to be

happy. most women who are told to smile, you know, it elicits the opposite.yeah. >> so i'm not going to do that, but i went to a kevin hart show in detroit. one of the guys who opened for him, na'im lynn, told the story about how women are empowered. it was a hilarious "shark week" story.ll to action. it's about, women today are so much more empowered. used to be back in the day when a woman was having their period, >> now when a woman's having her period, you're more empowered. shark week, mother --" [ laughter ] [ applause ] >> jimmy: okay. now it makes sense. and she taught you a lesson

that -- i don't really really think my grandmother taught me or think something nice about somebody. is that possible witndme feed i. he doesn't use tt is something that is -- could be a positive trait used for good. >> jimmy: yeah, okay. that was almost a positive thing. [ laughter ] marriage politically. >> yes. >> jimmy: would they argue?ou to try to bring both parties together?

>> you know, my dad worked for george romney. mitt romney's dad was the my dad worked for him. he was a republican. my mom worked an kelly, democrat attorney general. and you know, they would have debates, but it al and so it was a lot easier, i think, to have robust debates on facts. not based on everyone's individual preferences that are fed through social media. it was a different time. i think it's important. >> jimmy: do you think we can er there has to be. [ cheers and applause ] there has to be, yeah. >> well. i mean, we need to get you some therapy.

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