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>> did either of you have anything to do with the death of your daughter? >> one of the country's most infamous cold cases had jonbenet blessed my life for six years. why her father, john now says he believes it's possible. today to find his daughter's murderer. >> let's do a reverse family tree and see if he had a relative living in boulder and clear his family name. i won't get over the loss of my child, but it will affect my children and my grandchildren. >> after almost three decades, can authorities finally find jonbenet's killer? plus wicked. just in 90, finally >> gravity. >> the cultural event expected to blow box office records to oz. >> and i know it isn't fair. >> it's because i'm in this chair. >> what the cast says happened behind the scenes and one actress who made history. >> it means a lot for me, but especially for the community as
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a whole. >> how the stars honor wicked's rich broadway legacy. >> it was really important to all of us that we take care of these roles and take care of these characters and cup of joy. >> why customers at this bay state coffee shop are busting a move. >> you bust a move. i'm buying your coffee. your coffee. >> nightline will be r no matter what kind of teeth you gotta brush, oral-b electric cleans better with one simple touch. oral-b's dentist inspired round brush head hugs em, cleans em, and gets in between em, for 100% cleaner teeth. your perfect clean starts with oral-b. many remedies you take for chest congestion only mask the symptoms. you're gonna love this property. try this. mucinex 12 hour treats the mucus that causes chest congestion for all-day relief. ahhh! mucinex in, mucus out! treat the cause.
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>> good evening. thank you for joining us tonight. a father calling for renewed effort to find his daughter's murderer. the slaying of six year old jonbenet ramsey in her own home became one of the most notorious cold cases of her lifetime. john ramsey says he believes finding the killer is easier now than it's ever been. >> i had jonbenet blessed my life for six years and she really was a blessing. just an amazing little kid. >> it's been called one of the most famous cold cases of all time. 28 years ago, john and patsy ramsey woke up the day after christmas and realized their six year old daughter, jonbenet. a child beauty queen was missing. a threatening handwritten ransom note demanding $118,000. the exact amount of john's bonus was found on the stairs by the kitchen. >> i heard patsy scream and that
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was a horrible shock and we called the police immediately. what's going on there, ma'am? >> we have a kidnaping. all right. >> please explain to me what's going on. okay, sir, we have a there's a note left in our coffee. john. >> seven hours later, john ramsey found his daughter's lifeless body in a small room in the basement. japanese autopsy determined she had been sexually assaulted, strangled, and her skull was fractured. unknown dna was found under her fingernails and in her underwear. >> jonbenet ramsey, the little girl in colorado, was murdered. >> beauty queen jonbenet jonbenet murder has frightened residents of boulder for decades. >> the case transfixed the nation. john and patsy quickly became suspects, despite the lack of evidence linking them to the crime. >> there was no evidence of a break in. there was no jimmying on the front door. there were four people in that house and one died overnight. from the very beginning, they suspected
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the parents, the ramseys have always insisted they had nothing to do with their daughter's murder, eventually sitting down with barbara walters to try to set the record straight. >> mr. ramsey did you kill jonbenet? >> no, i did not. >> mrs. ramsey, did you kill your daughter? >> no, i did not kill my daughter. >> it would take 12 years for the boulder district attorney's office to completely clear the ramseys and their son, burke. all the while, jonbenet's killer has never been found. >> you still feel like it's a cloud over your family name. because there are still people in the country who still believe, absolutely, that your wife is responsible. >> no doubt. and we could have the killer confessed, arrested in prison, and there'd still be 5 to 10% of the population. yeah, it was the father or. yeah, it was the mother. >> now john ramsey is working with director joe berlinger. >> someone killed this six year old child when a new docu series streaming on netflix. >> cold case, who killed jonbenet ramsey? you have to go
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deeper. >> you have to sort the dna we have today. and make more sense of it. >> we think the crime can be solved. we want to pressure the boulder police to test dna. jonbenet's blood was mixed with a foreign dna. we need to separate out those two profiles, which can be done now. >> john ramsey is confident that advances in dna technology can find his daughter's killer. >> there's been a number of old, old cold cases solved using this genealogy research. let's do a reverse family tree and see if he had a relative living in boulder in 1996. that's what we're asking the police to do. >> the boulder police department told nightline in a statement. we are committed to following up on every lead, and we are continuing to work with dna experts and our law enforcement partners around the country until this tragic case is solved, this investigation will always be a priority for the boulder police department. the
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docu series reexamines the early days of the investigation. >> is it fair to question the boulder police department's experience, ability to investigate a homicide at this point? >> i don't think so. just because you have one homicide in a year, i think is actually a sign of remarkable strength in a community. >> that lack of experience procedurally created a lot of problems in the crime scene. >> i remember covering this story as a younger journalist. there was no more important story in the country than the disappearance and the death of your daughter. with all that attention, all that scrutiny, why hasn't this crime been solved? >> one simple reason the police have refused help that wasd have helped. they had no experience and they didn't have a homicide department. >> you have a small town police force that gets a crime that they're not used to. this was the first murder in boulder that year, and it was december 26th. so they don't have a lot of
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murders, particularly where a little girl is tortured to death. >> from the beginning, there were questions about how the police handled the investigation. >> there was a group of police investigators that had gathered at the boulder police department that morning when the word came in that jonbenet's body had been found, a person inside that meeting told me that one investigator hissed in kind of an undertone and a whisper to another one. i knew it, they killed their daughter so early on they locked into this crazy idea that the parents were responsible. >> they get tunnel vision, so they're not looking to investigate all possibilities. >> like a similar case where a young girl around jonbenet's age was assaulted in her home sometime in the late hours, mom hears a noise going on and she grabbed, i believe, pepper spray and went down the hall and there was in fact an intruder in her daughter's bedroom preparing to
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molest her. >> that person has never been identified. it subsequently came to light that that girl had attended the same dance studio as jonbenet. connected? >> i don't know, it's just absolutely insane to think that the parents were involved as opposed to a who enjoys this kind of thing. >> also under scrutiny, the crime scene itself, and in a crime scene particularly one is contaminated. >> is this it's problematic. >> people were streaming through that house. they were in the kitchen. they were in the living room. there were some friends of patsy's that were helping her wipe up the kitchen. there could have been fingerprints there. >> you had friends that were indexing the sink and washing dishes. >> people were making toast in the kitchen and
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a crime scene. but but we were so focused on getting jonbenet back. that was the task. >> what we have learned is that everyone should have been sequestered into an area so that people weren't roaming around the house. >> as the weeks passed, with no arrests in the case, a media frenzy began to build, fueled by nonstop images of jonbenet competing in beauty pageants and the tabloids. all the while, police continue to focus on the ramseys. >> it's not just that they had the wrong idea. they had a strategy of feeding false or partially false stories to the press because they wanted to smoke these guys out. they used the press to tarnish their reputation. >> after their names were cleared, a number of suspects surfaced, including one man, john mark karr, who confessed to the killing in 2006. >> i love to die accidentally, his dna did not come back as a
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match, so he was never charged. >> the case remains open. >> do you think you know who the killer is? >> you know. no, i don't, and this is a very dark, evil person. i don't know anybody like that. >> until the day we die, we'll be looking for the person that murdered our daughter, patsy ramsey died from ovarian cancer in 2006. >> but despite the loss of his wife and jonbenet, john remains steadfast. >> do you ever think about hurting yourself after she died? well, yeah. >> the pain was so great that death would have been a blessin. my minister said, okay, here's what you do. you get up in the morning, you deal with it. when you can't deal with it anymore, you go back to bed and that works. >> now he's remarried, takes comfort in his remaining
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children and grandchildren. >> i don't see sitting across from me a man who's been broken by this awful thing that happened in your life. why? >> well, you know, we were broken for a while. and really, what got us up off the floor was the realization we have three other children that need us now to be strong parents more than ever. i won't get over the loss of my child, but i'm moving ahead. >> when we come back, we switch gears a week in. many have been waiting for the joyous, magical world of wicked breaking down world of wicked breaking down barriers all the way to oz. ...with my psoriatic arthritis symptoms. but just ok isn't ok. and i was done settling. if you still have symptoms after trying a tnf blocker like humira or enbrel, rinvoq works differently. rinvoq is a once-daily pill
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>> welcome back! wicked is one of the most anticipated movies of the year. inspiring friend dates, moviegoer costumes, and many sing alongs. abc's rhiannon ally sat down with two cast members who are feeling all that joy. >> actor ethan slater and actress marissa bode. we are so excited to have you both on nightline. it's your first time here. yeah, thanks for having us. it's so great to have you both. and you know, this movie i feel like people have been talking about wicked for a decade now. just you and dividing gravity. ethan, how does it feel to finally be in this moment? >> it's a dream that i didn't quite realize i was having, but it's a dream come true. i saw wicked when i was in sixth grade. it was one of the first
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shows that i ever saw on broadway. this is the year it opened. i got to see the original cast. wicked has been a huge part of my life. it's been a big part of like my theatrical journey and how i ended up being an actor. it's a full circle moment for you. it really is. >> marissa, this is your first major film role. what does this moment feel like for you? >> it feels incredible for this to be my first really big project professionally. anyways, it feels great to be a part of something so big and just so loved by so many people. >> and ethan, you play bach, a munchkin in the world of oz and marissa, you play nessarose elphaba is, of course, beloved little sister. you guys actually share a very special bond in this film. so let's take a look. >> listen, nessa. >> yes, nessa. >> i've got something to confes. a reason why. well, why? i asked you here tonight, and i know it isn't fair. >> i know why you do. it's because i'm in this chair and
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you felt sorry for me. well, isn't that right? no, no, no, no, i don't feel sorry for you. >> you're great. >> marissa, you are the first ever wheelchair mobile actress who was cast in this role. what does that mean for you? >> it it means a lot for me, but especially for the community. as a whole, to be a part of a major film like that. even more so, i think it's important to also focus on the accessibility. people should take note of how you can make your spaces more accessible and more inclusive, and how important visibility really is. >> and i read that the director not only made the entire set behind the scenes accessible for you, but also he really wanted to show that on the screen as well. how important was that for you as well? >> it's great because i think a lot of the time, and i've experienced just living in a disabled body long enough to know that people do assume and
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they don't always ask questions. and john always made a point to ask questions and make sure that i was comfortable and make sure that i was accommodated when i in any way that i needed. >> he agreed. i am something is not the same. >> something just takes over me. and when it does, bad things happen. >> this is such a star studded cast. everyone is so excited to see ariana grande as glinda and cynthia erivo as elphaba. what was it like working alongside these two? >> everyone in this cast is incredible, and the two of them in particular, their chemistry is it's undeniable and it's just like really beautiful to behold. so to be able to be there on set and watch it unfold in real time and see the connection that they were really building in real time, it felt like a privilege, and i think i actually learned a lot from both of them. >> they're definitely perfectly cast. they really are. those
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roles. they're just so authentic as they are as those characters. i was amazed every time i was on set with them, for sure. >> i thought it was really cool that the original wicked performers, you know, idina menzel and kristin chenoweth were at the premiere of this with you guys, and you mentioned you. this was one of your first plays you ever saw. did you channel any of that energy from the broadway play into your roles? >> it was really important to all of us that we like, take care of these roles and take care of these characters. we honored their performances and honored the characters that they created. >> it was, as he said, important to honor the characters, while at the same time knowing that we're not 100% replicating it. we're taking our own selves and also putting that in at the same time. and so it was it was nice to find a balance between the two for sure. that perfectly adorable munchkin boy just asked me out. he said he was too shy to ask me at first, but then glinda emboldened him. >> wait, glinda, don't.
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>> don't you dare say another word against her. >> marissa, what was that moment like for you when you found out you got this role? >> definitely shock for sure. utter shock coming from, like, a really small community and having this be something i've. i've dreamed of doing. and for it to actually actually happen is just out of this world. >> this is a two part film you've already shot the second part, can you give us anything of what we can expect from part two? >> there is more magic to continue. that's for sure. people definitely grow or not grow or just grow in different ways. people definitely change. and i'll just have you'll just have to wait to see if it is or isn't for the better. >> oh, i like i snuck that in. >> you did that? yeah, that was great. >> ethan slater and marissa bodie, thank you so much for joining nightline. >> our thanks to rhiannon when
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>> and finally, tonight, it's a whole lot of dancing at this massachusetts coffee shop. at the coffee milano cafe. the coffee is free if you've got the beat. the middleboro coffee shop, offering free coffee in return for your best dance moves. customers, young and old busting a move for a cup of joe and going viral with the shop's tiktok notching more than 7.6 million views in less than five days. >> me, that's impressive. >> that's nightline for this evening. catch your full episodes on hulu. we'll see you right back here on monday. thanks for the company, america. have a good and safe weekend. nightline
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