>> lou: from hollywood, it's "jimmy kimmel live"! tonight -- cher, ebon moss-bachrach, and music from sheila e.

featuring gloria estefan. with cleto and the cletones! and now, jimmy kimmel! ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: thank you. thank you, everybody. thank you. all right, thank you. that's very kind. i'm jimmy, i'm the host of the show. thank you for watching, thank you for joining us here in -- everyone's hair looks all right. man, it's windy out. we have -- we have no power at my house. i might have to sleep over your place tonight, guillermo. >> guillermo: yeah, sure, yeah. >> jimmy: there are fires going on in the city. parts of down being evacuated. we had a lot of rain last year and that resulted in a lot of vegeta vegetation, which has now turned into kindling because it's dry, and then you add in high wind and you have perfect conditions for a wildfire. it's like god's the scout

master, everybody got your marshmall low an your stick? okay, good. i knew something was up this morning when i got this on the scene weather report from guillermo. >> guillermo: another year of the santana winds. too much. look, my chairs and the ground. it's very windy here. >> jimmy: wow, four years of meteorology school really paid off. >> guillermo: yeah! >> jimmy: really appreciate that. and our thoughts and prayers go to out to your patio furniture. the wind is especially scary here in l.a., because of all the botox, we're not used to seeing things move at all, so -- this morning, the national weather service put out this colorful warning. they grew a weird-looking sideways tooth over the affected areas, and said important, damaging winds also expected

outside magenta-outlined areas. so why draw on it? let's make it look look a geocities page from 1995. they're saying that winds in our area tonight could range anywhere from 80 miles an hour, all the way up to the next "twister" reboot, so, be ca careful. our local news teams are on the ground monitoring this situation. and i have to say, this is the reason why l.a., say what you like about l.a., it is the most fun place to live anywhere on earth. >> people take their keys with them as if they're in a parking lot this is not a parking lot. we need people to move their cars. if you leave your car, leave the key in there so a guy like me can move your car and get them, so the firetrucks can get up there. it's really, really important. >> thank you for talking to us. what's your name? >> my name is steve gutenberg. >> jimmy: come on, man! the police academy is real here!

we are plowing ahead tonight. wind be damned. cher is here with us tonight. the great and powerful cher. you probably know her has a book, an autobiography. cher has had such a fascinating life. she's had to split her memoir into multiple parts. like the "dune" movies. this is cher's first time on our show. between me and her, this could be donald trump's least favorite talk show ever tonight. you know, we still have almost, what, two weeks of joe biden, but trump is already reminding us of what a terrible mistake we made. he gave a double doozy of a press conference today from mar-a-lago. over 72 minutes. he covered all the big issues, including his plan to rebrand the ocean itself. >> we're going to be changing the name of the gulf of mexico to the gulf of america. [ laughter ] which has a beautiful ring. that covers a lot of territory. the gulf of america. what a beautiful name. >> jimmy: yes, yes, what a beautiful name, you spent two

seconds thinking of. he still has no health care plan. stayed up all night drinking diet cokes to come up with the gulf of america. and from now, on tortillas will be known as little round blankets. [ laughter ] this press conference showed that the real gulf of america is the one between those who think trump belongs in the white house, and those who think he belongs in a home, because he hasn't gotten away from any of is the old stuff, he played all the hits today. >> the windmills are driving the whales crazy. >> jimmy: he would know. he is stuck on these windmills, which aren't even windmills, they're turbines. and whales. he wants to kill the sharks and save the whales. most of all, he's still very upset about the water pressure at his house. >> they also want to go back and they have already started that, to, when you buy a faucet, no water comes out, because they want to preserve. even in areas they have so much water, they don't know what to

do. it's called rain. it comes down from heaven. and they want to do -- no water comes out of the shower. it goes drip, drip, drip. >> jimmy: what a drip [ bleep ]. i mean really. [ applause ] in fairness, it wasn't all petty personal grievances. it was mostly that, but the donny-lama did manage to exit the spotlight today on this uplifting note. >> and i'll just say it again, if this deal's not done with the people representing our nation, by the time i get to office, all hell is going to break out. thank you very much. >> jimmy: and off to the golf course he goes. that's right. for whatever reason, trump loves to terrorize our allies. putin? good guy. canada? he's like darth vader. come to the dark side or else! trump today suggested he'll consider using economic force to get canada to become part of the united states. and if that doesn't get him the

nobel prize, i don't know what will. he's also suggesting that we might buy, or just claim, greenland. which seemed like a joke the first time he floated this idea, but this time, he isn't just talking about it, he sent his son there to inspect the merchandise. >> guys, we're here in greenland. the founder, 1721. and that yellow house with the red top, that was his original spot, that's where he moved. this is where it all started out here, just incredible scenery. super cool stuff. >> jimmy: yeah. and that is a bro who knows cool, i'll tell you that. who even thinks of buying greenland? who has thoughts like this? maybe he wants to buy greenland so he can put don jr. in charge and leave him there forever. you know what language they speak? they speak greenlandic.

70% of the population speaks greenlandic. that's what they should call don jr., the greenlandic. [ laughter ] and then -- [ applause ] and then, the -- we have don's brother eric's wife, lara, who over the holiday took her name out of the running for the i have vacant senate seat in florida, and is back to focusing on her true passion, which is ruining tom petty songs. ♪ hey baby ♪ ♪ there ain't no easy way out ♪ ♪ hey yeah ♪ stand my ground ♪ ♪ and i won't back down ♪ >> jimmy: oh, man, she whipped that crowd. what is the opposite of a frenzy? maybe elon can buy her a new throat or something. please. back down already. that was from the mar-a-lago new year's eve, but this is the real party over the break. the newly pardoned hunter biden made a friend at the white house

gathering of digital creators. none other than they have my vote. meanwhile, the bromance between trump and elon musk is precase you. maggie haberman says trump has been complaining about how much musk has been hanging around his house. see, he really is like a son to him. elon musk has been renting a private cottage at mar-a-lago, which is about 300 feet from trump's living quarters. elon's bedroom is closer to donald's than donald's is to melania. they are saying trump hasn't had something glued this closely to his ass since the last time he sat on a box of mcnuggets. imagine being a member at trump's gilded cheesecake factory golf course/wife graveyard and you come down hung over after a night of listening to lara trump screeching

karaoke, you're at the omelet station, trying to get a spoonful from the sweaty pan of hot dog water and the world's richest edm dork corners you to talk about "star trek." because he lives there now. that's $83,000 a month well spent, isn't it? they say elon walks in and just joins any meeting, whether he's invited -- he's trump's kramer, bursting through the door. but -- somehow, all the other billionaire tech boys are jealous, including the ceo mark zuckerberg. he's been kissing trump's ass like it's the blarney stone. zuckerberg showed up to debase himself shortly after the election and, today, released a suspiciously trump-friendly announcement. >> i want to talk about something important today. >> jimmy: what, that you're dressed like a molly dealer from

chechnya? go on. >> first, we're going to get rid of fact-checkers, replacing them with community notes. >> jimmy: oh, good, facebook is going to be similar to x. no fact-checkers. this is like del taco announcing they're done with health inspexs. >> we're going to get rid of restrictions on topics like immigration and gender that are just out of touch with mainstream discourse. >> jimmy: what did trump do to this woman? what has happened? imagine -- imagine being one of the wealthiest people in the world and making the decision to announce the end of truth as we know it, while dressed as macklemore in 2008. >> finally, we're going to work with president trump to push back on governments around the world that are going after american companies and pushing to sensor more. >> jimmy: we call it the old suck and zuck. that is -- that's embarrassing. i'm trying to decide which part is worse.

mark zuckerberg just flushing whatever dignity he had down trump's golden toilet or the fact that he's transitioning into one of the golden girls. this is a fun little dilemma for trump nuts. as of january 1st, last week, pornhub is no longer available in florida. the state passed a law requiring users to verify that they're over 18 before they can logon, s so, pornhub blocked all access to their site in the state of florida. they don't like the government monitoring what their users are watching. isn't it weird that they're banning online porn in the state that most likes like a penis of all the states? it's like if italy banned shopping online for shoes. >> anyone who may have tried to access pornhub or redtube is getting messages like this, informing them that they're barred from the pornography site. the familiar pornhub tune silenced in florida today. >> yeah, i know what that is.

>> i recognize it, but i couldn't tell you the name of it. >> she doesn't know. i know what it is. >> i feel like i do. >> turns out she doesn't. >> jimmy: but he does. that might be the most openly horny reporter i've ever seen. now, the reason men in florida aren't marching in the streets right now to protest is, it's very easy to get around this restriction. all you need is a vpn. if you use a vpn, you can trick the site into thinking you're in another state. so, the law doesn't really do anything to protect anyone. obviously, kids shouldn't be looking at adult videos. especially in florida, kids sh riding a jet ski with a machete, kid things. but there's still plenty of sexually-charged nonsense happening in the sunshine state. and tonight, we shine a light on that again with our first edition for this new year of "this week in florida." ♪ >> 22-year-old sophia ross, a hooters waitress, didn't seem to recall driving her car when the

officer asked ross to participate in a sobriety test. the interaction goes from strange -- >> okay, do you want to try this first exercise for me? >> i will do anything for you, daddy. >> to inappropriate. >> we're going to make out here. >> okay. we're going to make out here. >> no, we are not. >> can't keep my hands off him. >> everything -- >> don't be such a nerd, bro. >> body cam. and that body cam is public record. >> i am a nerd, show it to the body cam. i am a nerd. >> anything we do is -- >> i am a nerd, bro. [ applause ] >> jimmy: and that's how i met your mother, kids. we've got a great show for you tonight. ebon moss-bachrach is here. we've got music from sheila e. with gloria estefan. and we'll be right back with the one and only cher. so stick around. [ cheers and applause ] ♪

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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: hi there, welcome back. tonight, he is an emmy-winning actor you know from "the bear." cousin richie himself, ebon moss-bachrach is with us. [ applause ] and then, later on, her grammy-nominated album is called "bailar." here with her friend gloria estefan, the queen of percussion, sheila e. tomorrow night, we have a big show tomorrow. cynthia erivo and brian jordan alvarez, with music from victoria canal. so, join us for that. our first guest is an oscar, emmy, and grammy winner, a kennedy center honoree, and recent inductee to the rock & roll hall of fame. she also holds the number one spot on "the new york times" bestseller list with the first half of her life story, "cher:

the memoir part one." please say hello to cher. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ [ cheers and applause ] [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: it really is you. thank you for coming. >> thank you. >> jimmy: it's great to have you here. very exciting. >> thank you. i loved the opening. >> jimmy: oh, thank you, i appreciate that. >> can you say anything, do you have a time delay? >> jimmy: no, yeah, no, well, we're on tape, but man, nobody really cuts anything out. >> you have balls, dude. >> jimmy: oh, thanks. [ cheers and applause ] i take that as a great compliment from you. >> a great compliment. >> jimmy: you are not a dude and you do not have balls, but you do have balls in the spiritual sense. >> yes, i do. [ cheers and applause ]

>> jimmy: and -- and there's a lot of that in here. i did want to ask about just, like, because i'm interested in your life, i really am. and maybe it's annoying to you, when people are interested in your life, because you're a person like any other person, but like, over the holidays, what are you doing? do you cook? i know you do cook. >> right. >> jimmy: do you cook -- >> no, no, i had a bunch of people, 25 people, six i didn't know. and [ laughter ] -- and we just decorated the house, we had kids that -- that are really cute and i have a little friend, close friend slash who is my boyfriend's son who is really, really cute. and we do the same stuff. >> jimmy: who were the six people you didn't know? >> i don't know. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: i'm going to try to sneak in there next year. >> no, it's like -- i have a friend, they have no place to go, i have a sister, that kind of thing. >> jimmy: that's very nice. i heard you make a pasta sauce,

well, you wrote it in the book, that you make a pasta sauce that's very popular with your friends. what kind of sauce is it? >> it's red. and it's sonny's mother's recipe. >> jimmy: oh. >> except there's no recipe. there's just handed down. >> jimmy: i see. >> like, i throw, you know, olive oil and garlic and onions and i'm on my way. >> jimmy: did you ever make it with sonny's mother? >> no. >> jimmy: because it would never be good enough for sonny's mother. >> i would never make it. son made it great, and so, he handed it down to me. >> jimmy: i see. and have you taught it to others? >> no. >> jimmy: you have not, okay. so. >> it ends with me. >> jimmy: that's right. >> i'm taking it to my grave. which could be any moment. well, no, when you're old, you know. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: your book's been number one on "the new york times" best sellers list for six weeks in a row. that's a lot of weeks. >> i know. >> jimmy: does that surprise you? >> oh, god, yes. >> jimmy: it does.

>> yeah. >> jimmy: i think about sometimes when i think about, maybe i should write a book, that i'll have no stories left to tell people at dinner? >> i have a volume two. >> jimmy: you got a volume two. and that's coming out in november, right? >> yeah. i just couldn't -- it's like, i didn't want to squish it together, because then you'd be carrying it around like this and not be able to read it, and i wanted to have time -- i wanted to write the first one to see how it was and did i do a good job, and will people be interested? and then -- and then i have a whole other life when i started to do movies. >> jimmy: uh-huh. >> so, i went up from sonny and me and television, well, i went up from my great-grandparents. >> jimmy: will this book be -- two volumes, three volumes? like, and when will it go up to, like, will this interview be part of the next book? [ laughter ] will it go all the way right up, or is it done? [ applause ] >> no. i think it's done. >> jimmy: it's done, okay. you wrote about losing your

virginity to a guy in taluca lake. >> i did? >> jimmy: yeah. which is right -- not far from here. >> no. >> jimmy: do you think we could find the spot, like, if you -- do you think you would no? >> no, i wouldn't. i don't remember the guy. >> jimmy: you don't remember the guy? he hasn't reached out to you? >> no. >> jimmy: well, you know he was telling everybody that, right? >> except, you know, i have people that i've mentioned in there, and i'm wondering, you know, what do they think. like, one guy in particular, who was very instrumental, he was -- he was very instrumental in helping me to leave sonny. and so -- and that was -- he, like, i wonder, i mentioned his whole name, so, i wonder, how does he feel about it? but he must feel good, because he was a really good person. >> jimmy: he did not reach out to you afterwards to say thank you for the kind words? >> no. >> jimmy: do you know where he

is? >> i think he's in texas. >> jimmy: what's his name? >> i'm not telling you. >> jimmy: it's in the book. >> well, open the [ bleep ] book. >> jimmy: guillermo, will you go through this real quick and find out the guy's name? maybe we can get him on the phone. that would be great. >> no. >> jimmy: okay, all right. yeah, the story's about sonny, i mean, looked like you guys were, like, having a lot of fun in the '70s on tv and what not, maybe you weren't having a lot of fun. maybe things weren't as good as we thought they were. >> no. i have to tell you something. doing the show kept us together, because on the show, we had so much fun. we were equal, you know? that was -- i mean, i loved -- i loved it. we loved it. we worked so well together. we had so much fun. and -- and it -- it really -- it kept us closer longer than i really wanted. >> jimmy: you guys were business partners, and, of course, like you guys did things like -- this is pretty great. this is from 1967.

this is "16" magazine. we dug this up. and you and sonny would give advice to, i guess kids? >> teenagers, yes. >> jimmy: who -- here's one. i want to see if you give the same advice that you gave back then. >> oh, god. what are you? [ laughter ] >> jimmy: many have asked -- >> i thought i would come on and have fun, light chatter. >> jimmy: dear cher. i'm 13 years old, i like a boy who is in my class and he seems to like me, but sometimes he teases me. he hits me gently on the face and calls me names. just to be fresh. i'm also four inches taller than he is and please tell me how i can get him to be my steady. unhappy in ridgefield, new jersey. how would you respond to unhappy now? >> kick him to the curb. [ applause ] >> jimmy: dear unhappy. >> oh, god. >> jimmy: as i've said here many times before, if a boy teases

you, it's a sure sign that he digs you. just be good natured about it and give him a nice friendly smile now and again. sooner or later, he'll come around. as for being four inches taller, well -- >> nah. >> jimmy: most girls are taller than boys nowa days, i'm than sonny. hang in there, keep trying, and you won't be unhappy for long. [ applause ] >> come on, girls. we know that's not true! [ applause ] >> jimmy: cher is with us. this is her book. we'll be right back with cher after this. portions of "jimmy kimmel live" are brought to you by at&t. connecting changes everything. it was easy once i found the parts. [wires sparking] guess i just donated my car to science. [robotic sound]

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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: we are back, cher is with us. we found out the guy's name, it's bill. >> yeah, i know. >> jimmy: yeah. [ laughter ] but we'd have to narrow it down. we'd need his last name. you willing to share? >> no. >> jimmy: you are not? >> because of him, not because of me. >> jimmy: okay, all right. well, bill, if you're watching, maybe you'll reach out. that would be nice, yes? no. [ laughter ] so, this second part of your book, have you finished that yet, is it done? no.

[ laughter ] >> no, i haven't even started it. >> jimmy: is that true? you haven't even started it, it's coming out in november. >> i know, but i finished this book five -- i mean -- i was late. i was at the end of everything, and i finished it when they had to publish it. >> jimmy: it's not coming out in november. >> yes, it is. >> jimmy: we'll see. november of what year? [ laughter ] >> it may -- my book came out by the date that they wanted it out. but it just -- i'm a little tardy. but i think i'll be better this time. >> jimmy: i feel like i can help you. >> no. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: i really can. here's how i feel like i can help you. i've come up with a series of random thoughts, and i think -- >> are they there? >> jimmy: they're here, i'm going to read them. i'm going to ask you certain questions that are random and it will give you ideas of things to put in the next book. when's the last time you drove a car? >> i haven't driven in a little

while. >> jimmy: how long? >> i just bought one. >> jimmy: you did? why? >> because i'm going to drive. >> jimmy: you are? >> yeah. i am. >> jimmy: do you have a driver's license, and if so, is your last name on it? >> i don't have a last nape. >> jimmy: so, just says cher? >> yes, i had to go to court. they give you a special dispensation or whatever they call it, and -- you have to prove that someone could know you, like, the populous could know you by that name. >> jimmy: i would think they just walk in, they go, okay, everybody knows you. [ laughter ] >> no, that's not true. >> jimmy: that's really great. wow. guillermo, you should do that, by the way. >> guillermo: yes, i want to, yeah. hopefully soon. >> jimmy: have you ever been to costco? >> i think once. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: you'd know if you had. >> no. i think once. >> jimmy: may i please take you to costco sometime? i would love to walk you around costco. >> okay. >> jimmy: all right. [ laughter ] have you ever been on jury duty? >> i tried, but they don't --

won't take me. >> jimmy: why? too famous? >> you know, they thought i would be distracting. actually, i played a role where i played a lawyer, and -- >> jimmy: that doesn't count. >> listen, no, but listen, so i wanted to go into the court and see what, you know, i would do, and i wanted to see a real, you know, trial, and the judge kicked me out about after 15 minutes. >> jimmy: too many people were looking at you? >> no, because he was afraid i would disrupt the trial. >> jimmy: oh, wow. was this judge ito? [ laughter ] if you could turn back time -- >> what? [ laughter ] this is so dumb. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: that's -- that, by the way, is going to be the title of my autobiography. >> okay. >> jimmy: what year would you turn it back to? >> oh.

i don't know the year, but i was 60. >> jimmy: when you were 16? >> no, 60. >> jimmy: that was your best year? >> no, it wasn't my best year. 40 was probably my best year, because i changed my life, i got -- i started to work in film and i got some respect and -- and different things. >> jimmy: you seem to prefer 40 to 60, i've heard no reason why 60 would be the pick. >> i don't know, it just seemed like a good number. [ laughter ] when you're 78, 60 sounds great. [ applause ] >> jimmy: this is -- one more thing, because we lost president carter, and i happened across this great photograph. >> right. >> jimmy: this is an intimate conversation you guys seem to be having. did you know him well? >> yes. >> jimmy: how did you get to know him? >> because gregory and the almond brothers raised the first money that he started his campaign with. >> jimmy: he loved rock 'n' roll, jimmy carter.

>> yeah. >> jimmy: and you spent personal time with him? >> i ate dinner with him the first night he was in the white house. >> jimmy: the first night? >> yeah. and then he called me one time, he wanted me to do him a favor, and so, the -- operator was -- her voice was shaking, really bad, she was like, i have the president on the phone. and i went, oh, good! [ laughter ] and he asked me to do something on the johnny carson show, and johnny carson did not like me, had me thrown out of a party. and -- yeah, it was a bitch. and -- [ laughter ] but i didn't like him, either, so, i didn't make any difference. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: at least you agreed on that. well, it's a real delight to have you here. i hope, i very much hope you'll come back in november, if, indeed, you get the book finished. >> okay. you are not -- you are a lot nicer and funnier than i thought you would be. >> jimmy: oh.

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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: hi there, welcome back. music from sheila e. is on the way. our next guest is a two-time emmy winner and a future fantastic one-fourth. you can see his show "the bear" on hulu now. please welcome ebon moss-bachrach. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: very good to see you. did you meet cher? >> i didn't -- i didn't get a chance to meet her. maybe later. >> jimmy: you're a musician, right? you played the guitar on "girls." >> i learned to play guitar for a play i did a long time ago, and i played on "girls," i played piano as a kid. >> jimmy: you were forced to take lessons or you wanted to? >> i was forced to. i think that's usually how it goes. but then pretty quickly, i got

into it and i liked it. practicing is a bit of a struggle, but it was part of, i don't know, how i thought of myself, you know, it became a part of me. >> jimmy: you were in the band as a kid? >> ah -- [ laughter ] yeah, i guess, like not -- i was in a jazz band. i wasn't in, like -- >> jimmy: in the school band? >> no, i -- am i picking up some kind of, like, aggression? >> jimmy: no. actually, you're picking up -- now i'm insulted, because i was in the school band. [ laughter ] >> i was in, okay, so -- >> jimmy: yeah, there i am. that's me. >> oh, yeah, with the -- >> jimmy: clarinet. now you feel bad, right? [ laughter ] i mean, just for me generally. >> yeah, exactly. i will tell you what my parents made me, they made me play flute in seventh and eighth grade, which is the clarinet's

clarinet. >> jimmy: yeah, somebody we can finally bully. >> exactly. >> jimmy: they made you play the flute, huh? why? did they love the flute? >> i don't know. they maybe wanted to create, you know, create some kind of testimony, probably why i'm an actor. >> jimmy: you think that was a creative decision or they just had a flute laying around the house? sba because sometimes my parents would want me to play whatever was cheapest. >> yeah, i think it was a combination of a flute lying around and just it didn't take up too much space. >> jimmy: did you transfer that to saxophone? because the fingerings are the same. >> no, i just stopped playing. >> jimmy: you could have been like lizzo if you kept that up. >> yeah. >> jimmy: i do think of you as, like, a lizzo type. so, when you guys -- >> i get that a lot. >> jimmy: did you play gigs and stuff? >> yeah, we had a jazz band. we would play some gigs, i think our first gig was, like, a like, a 5k --

>> jimmy: a race? >> a fun run to raise money. my mom ran the big brother big sister program in the town i grew up in, so, it was maybe a fund-raiser for them. >> jimmy: so, you were there at the finish line playing? >> you know, i -- i thought it was at the finish line, but the name of our band, which we took from this run was the third mile jazz quintet and a 5k is, i think, 3.3 or 3.4, so, we weren't even at the finish line. we were just -- three quarters, like, you got this. [ laughter ] if you don't like what we're playing right now, keep going. >> jimmy: keep running. wow. i do want to ask you about something. and this is crazy to me, because i collect cookbooks, i have a lot of cookbooks. i have this cookbook. and this is something they brought up to me and i actually, like, it rung a bell for me. this recipe for old fashioned strawberry cake, there's a

photograph that goes along with it. >> i don't even know if you're allowed to show this picture on -- >> jimmy: that human torso belongs to you. [ laughter ] >> so, i was -- [ cheers and applause ] these are novelty swim trunks. >> jimmy: yes, they are. let's have a look at those novelty swim trunks. are those -- they seem like they're painted on your body, are they, like -- are they? >> no, they're very tight. you know, they're like a youth medium. [ laughter ] i think. >> jimmy: how did they get you to do this? >> okay, so, covid was a weird time. [ laughter ] so -- this was taken at the beach by a dear friend of mine, my friend jesse, who is a wonderful host and a great director, a big house in the north fork of long island.

he's very generous, bringing people in. jenny connor, who made "girls," i live to make jenny laugh, you know, and so i'm also known for, look, i like wearing speedos, i said, if i get this, i found some sort of -- i guess where i could purchase this thing. i got these to make jenny laugh. but there was also a photo shoot for this cookbook happening at the same time, the same day. so, i came out from swimming and the suit worked, it made jenny laugh, but these guys were into it, they said, can we take a picture of you with this strawberry cake? sure, yeah, i get it, it's hilarious. i had a good tan going. i was like, but please, you know, i don't want this to be associated with me, i don't want my face. ebon, no one will know. and here we are. >> jimmy: wow. did you at least get to eat the

cake? >> yeah. >> jimmy: you did eat the cake? >> yeah, yeah. i mean -- >> jimmy: now you're on a show about food. i mean, that's kind of great, right? i mean, it's interesting, the way -- maybe that was -- that's what really led you to "the bear." >> life is beguiling, yeah. >> jimmy: it really is. tell me about the fantastic four. tell me about something they told you not to tell me. >> it's not going to happen. i've been through rigorous media training. >> jimmy: i know, but so has tom holland and he always gives me something. how about what -- the thing, you're playing the thing, which is one of my favorite cartoon characters. >> mine, too. >> jimmy: do you know, have you seen, like, the full effect? >> i have seen a very crude rendering. because it takes awhile to build this stuff. they have so many animators working on this. i wear, like, these motion capture suit, two cameras, like, right here, they are capturing

absolutely everything, every nuance, expression, thought in my eye. and so, it takes awhile to build it. they're building it right now. >> jimmy: are you smoking a cigar? >> ah -- no. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: do you say the words "it's clobbering time" at any point? >> i -- i slipped it in there a couple times. we'll see -- we'll see -- we'll see what happens. i -- i don't have final cut on this one. so we'll see. >> jimmy: i'm going to just tell you, you gave me something, i appreciate it. you gave me something that you probably shouldn't have. >> yeah. and it's going to be a long ride home. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: it's great to see you. thank you for coming. "the bear," you can see all the episodes of hulu, and fantastic four is coming out at some point, we don't know when. but it's ebon moss-bachrach, everybody. we'll be right back with sheila e.

>> jimmy: thanks to cher and ebon moss-bachrach. apologies to matt damon. "nightline" is next. but first, her grammy-nominated album is called "bailar." the song is called "bemba colora." here with an assist from gloria estefan, sheila e.! ♪

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