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this is nightline. >> tonight, explosive hearings o college murders. bryan
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kohberger, charged with the gruesome slaying of four friends and housemates. prosecutors saying it's tied to his dna. >> we're not just talking about his dna. happened to be found in a dresser drawer or something. it was found on a knife sheath where four people were killed by a knife. >> his lawyers arguing that linchpin evidence be barred. >> you're being led down this path to say there's a real investigation when there wasn't. >> and questioning the credibility of a surviving roommate. she described the killer who she saw as being a tall, white male with bushy eyebrows. that fits the description of bryan kohberger. could all of it be thrown out? plus, funnyman roy wood jr. >> roy, one more right here, please. >> the hilarious comic and daily show alum and sometime host on his new stand up special. >> we get mad if the phone rings. the phone that was invented for talking. you get mad. oh hell no. >> what he has to say about living in america in 2025.
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>> good evening. thank you for joining us tonight. more fireworks in court in the idaho college murders. lawyers for suspect brian kohberger are arguing he has dna, which prosecutors say was found in the bloody crime scene should not be allowed into evidence. what it could mean for his trial. here's abc's kayna whitworth. >> with what they're leaving out repeatedly is where this dna started. where did the chain start? well, it started at a quadruple homicide at a crime scene. >> two days of explosive hearings in the murder case of four idaho college students who prosecutors say were brutally stabbed to death by this man, brian kohberger. his attorneys trying to paint the murder investigation as flawed and shrouded in secrecy, all in an effort to get key evidence thrown out. >> you're being led down this path to say there's a real investigation when there wasn't a real investigation. you don't
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find probable cause on that. >> the now 30 year old is facing the death penalty charged with brutally murdering kaylee goncalves, madison mogen, xana kernodle and ethan chapin in an off campus home in november of 2022. it's a case that gripped the nation ever since. >> a major break in the murder of four idaho college students. the arrest of a 28 year old man in pennsylvania in connection with the brutal murders of four university of idaho students. >> prosecutors say surveillance footage, cell phone records and dna evidence link kohberger to the murders. the linchpin kohberger's dna. >> we're not just talking about his dna. happened to be found in, you know, a dresser drawer or something. it was found on a knife sheath where four people were killed by a knife. this is as crime scene as it gets. >> but kohberger's attorneys arguing to have that crucial dna evidence dismissed, claiming it was unlawfully obtained using public genealogy websites. >> if you can upload one of these profiles for $12 and find
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out all kinds of information, how is that not a fourth amendment issue that was done twice without a warrant? in this case. >> the fourth amendment protects against illegal search and seizure. and what the defense is arguing here is that law enforcement used inappropriate techniques that they use in gathering dna, and then using it in a genetic genealogy database to what they argue was against policies for that database. >> kohberger's attorneys, also arguing that authorities violated the law when they used a garbage collector to retrieve trash from the kohberger family's gated neighborhood in pennsylvania without a warrant. the fbi, using the garbage to make the dna match. >> i think it is different when you have the fbi telling the trash man what to do. >> oftentimes, a sample of dna that has been discarded is what the courts call an abandonment sample, that you don't have an expectation of privacy for a pizza crust you throw out, or a water bottle that you drink from
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and throw out. >> but prosecutors arguing all facets of this investigation, including the dna and the use of public genealogy databases, were done properly. >> the individuals who were utilizing these databases, and we're talking about millions of them, are willingly sharing their information with each other. the issue is that no one sharing this information with millions of other people could have a reasonable expectation of privacy. >> based on the judges responses to the defense's arguments, it's unlikely that this evidence does get suppressed, meaning not shown to the jury at trial. if it is suppressed, then prosecutors would have to lean on other forms of evidence. >> the defense also questioning the credibility of a surviving roommate. in an affidavit, the roommate recalled being in the home and frozen, seeing a man wearing black clothes and a mask walk past her. >> this is one of two roommates who survived, and this is the roommate who gave police a lot of information. she described the killer who she saw, the man
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who was in the house as being a tall, white male with bushy eyebrows. and that fits the description of brian kohberger. so the defense is now trying to pull apart her credibility. >> this witness has claimed that she's not sure what she heard or saw was real, or whether it's it was at a dream. there's further statements from that witness in that police interview that said that she had had too much to drink and couldn't remember. >> the surviving roommate gave statements to law enforcement that the defense is trying to argue was not necessarily accurate, that he may have been intoxicated or sleepy, or may have seen things that might not have fit exactly perfectly. for what law enforcement then articulated to the judge. >> after kohberger's arrest, officials in the region began to investigate any possible connection to past crimes like a home invasion in pullman, washington, ten miles from where the murders happened. a woman in this case says a masked assailant broke into her home
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holding a knife. >> oh my god. >> body camera footage obtained by abc news shows police responding. >> i heard my door open and i looked over and someone was wearing a ski mask and had a knife, and so i, like, kicked the out of their stomach and screamed super loud and they, like, flew back into my closet and then ran out my door and up the stairs. >> and according to the police report, the woman describing him as five 3 to 5 five kohberger is six feet tall. after his arrest, kohberger became a person of interest for a time in that case, but police say he's no longer a person of interest and the case remains unsolved. >> the defense wants to raise that issue in an attempt to point the finger at an alternative suspect that if there are similar crimes in the area or suspects out there other than brian kohberger committing similar crimes, and that the jury should contemplate that in believing that brian kohberger is not guilty of these charges. >> kaylee goncalves parents have been at nearly every one of
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brian kohberger's hearings, but they weren't allowed into the courtroom for this one. they had to watch from a court livestream. >> they want to be there for kaylee. they are fighting on her behalf. they believe that brian kohberger is guilty. they want him to get the death penalty, and they want all of this to be opened up. they want the world to see what's going on, so it cannot be appealed. at some point. they don't want evidence tossed out. >> they sat down with me last year talking about how their daughter was found. it's my understanding kaylee was kind of sitting up. >> yes. >> and had fought. >> yeah. and the way that that room is put together, if you come through that door, you can't get out of that room. >> you know, the headboard was up against the wall. the sideboard kaylee was on was up against the wall. and if you can imagine kaylee in an upright sort of position up in the corner, slumped. i mean, she was trapped. >> kaylee was one of the four tight knit college friends killed in that off campus home
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on king road in moscow, idaho. it all began the night of november 12th, 2022. kaylee and maddie, newly 21, and lifelong best friends, went to a popular campus bar around 10 p.m. this video appears to be the last time they were seen alive before turning in for the night. authorities say their roommate zana and her boyfriend ethan, both 20, were at a fraternity party earlier that same night, arriving home around 1:45 a.m. there's three stories to the house. kaylee and maddie were together in maddie's room on the third floor. kaylee's dog, murphy, was alone in kaylee's bedroom just down the hall. ethan was staying over that night in zana's room, which was on the second floor. one of the other roommates in the house, also on the second floor, and one in a bedroom on the first floor. >> everything was so normal in that home on king road, nobody could have imagined it was about
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to become a house of horror. >> police responding to a 911 call just before noon, hours after law enforcement say the murders happened. >> when the lead sergeant goes into the house, he later told people how the high smell of blood rose up in his nostrils and it took him back. >> this is a brutal crime scene. these victims were not shot, were stabbed to death. >> what was baffling to police, they say, is that it didn't appear that there was any forced entry. it doesn't appear that any of the victims had been sexually assaulted. >> weeks later, kohberger was arrested at his parents home in pennsylvania. >> last night. >> detectives arrested 28 year old brian christopher kohberger. >> kohberger had been working on his phd in criminology at washington state university, just ten miles across state lines from the university of
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idaho, where kaylee, maddie, zanna and ethan were just starting their futures, documenting their friendship on social media. >> and i wake up at night, i see your name on my phone. it's in the moments when i that i'm better alone. >> kaylee is like the definition of sunshine. >> to know kaylee was to love kaylee. >> kaylee and maddie had been best friends since sixth grade. >> they did absolutely everything together. first dates, first boyfriends, graduated high school. they had their first heartbreaks together. kaylee was 12, 13 years old. they're blasting taylor swift in the basement, you know, comforting each other. >> if i had 1 or 2 words to describe maddie may, it would be just an angel. she just made me proud. >> zana was in the same sorority as maddie. she was dating ethan, a freshman and also a triplet. >> my first impression of ethan was, he's just this huge dude
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that you wouldn't really approach. but as soon as you really got to know him, you realized that he's like one big teddy bear. >> as the victim's family and friends wait for the judge to rule on this week's hearings, kohberger's jury trial is slated to begin in august. >> it's going to be tough on the family members. it always is in any murder case, but this one is unique that you've got the world's attention. but for these families, they say they just want justice. >> our thanks to kenna. when we come back one on one with the hilarious roy wood jr, his new stand up special. looking at the stand up special. looking at the way we relate inate to severe crohn's symptoms kept me out of the picture. with skyrizi, feel symptom relief at 4 weeks. many people were in remission at 12 weeks, at 1 year, and even at 3 years. don't use if allergic. serious allergic reactions, increased infections, or lower ability to fight them may occur. before treatment, get checked for infections and tb. tell your doctor about any flu-like symptoms or vaccines.
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watched newscast. >> welcome back. roy wood jr has lived some life from living in his car to playing the white house correspondents dinner. he sat down with nightline co-anchor juju chang and offered up a preview of his new comedy special, take a look. >> the only time you see an employee at the grocery store is when you do self-checkout wrong. that's the only time you see an employee. you done done it wrong, and then one of them overlords magically appear. you know, every self-checkout got an overlord that's watching everybody. you didn't scan your wrong. didn't that loud machine snitch on you to the whole store? >> that was a hilarious clip. >> from actor and. >> comedian roy wood jr. >> who's here? hello. >> how have you been? >> i'm well, welcome to nightline. >> thank you. >> your comedy. >> special is hilarious. >> i laughed out loud and amidst other things, but i just want to talk a little bit about you. first. you've been referred to as comedy's best journalist, which makes me a little jealous. you're known for your time on
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the daily show. i was there at the white house correspondents dinner. >> when you. >> were joking around. >> meanwhile, in america, we have an 80 year old man begging us for four more years of work. begging. >> what's it like to know at a time like this, when your humor is both biting but sweet? how do you know when your political humor goes too far? >> i don't think that political humor can go too far. i just think that we live in an era where there are more people who have the freedom to express their displeasure with a particular joke or angle on it. but, you know, when we talk about this idea that the theory that comedians are getting canceled, they're not they're selling thousands of tickets wherever they go. there's just people more vocal. i think at the end of the day, for me, i have more fun exploring issues than people. >> and yet your themes, too, are also in this special about connectedness and loneliness. you know, president trump was inaugurated this week. there feels like a can't we all just
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get along kind of vibe going. >> i believe the answer to that question is no. so far so. >> but as a political satirist, how do you play in that sandbox? >> i don't think that anything changes under trump. with comedy, the first thing we have to figure out is whether or not the way that we've approached political satire in the last decade, if there's still going to be an efficacy in that approach, if it's about connecting and educating other people, and if you call one side stupid, well, how are you going to get the knowledge to them now? because clearly, yelling and berating them for the last two terms, for the last two presidents, excuse me, that hasn't gotten the job done of using humor as a connected device. if anything, humor has been used as a way to put up fences. >> and you want to explore connectedness. let's look at another clip from the stand up and we'll talk about it. you just filmed it recently in dc. >> yeah, we ain't been right since covid, man. we don't talk, we don't interact. we don't chit chat no more. we don't. we don't even like talking on the phone. we get mad if the phone rings. the phone that was invented for
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talking. you get mad. oh hell no. you got to text me first. don't just be calling me. >> how dare you call me on my phone? >> yeah, we get upset. >> yeah, but, you know, it's fascinating that loneliness as a theme is not something we usually laugh out loud about. >> lonely flowers is the first special i've done where i really don't get into politics. my previous three, i took my shots at any and everything that was, you know, racism. protest kaepernick taking a knee. but this special is more about who are we as a society as a result of the things that have happened in the last ten years. and we are lonely and it does not matter who you are or who you voted for, we're all in some little weird space where social media has put us in a bubble. it's a mission to leave your house, to go and be social, so you have to actively make choices that are different. >> you talk about being intentional about happiness. i love that phrase. >> yeah, because you got to choose it. like you can wake up every day and decide, i'm not saying every day is glass half full or whatever, but every now and then choose to be connected with somebody. i don't care what
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it is. go to the book club, go play the fantasy football, go to the go to the buffalo wing spot and talk to a stranger. talk to the person in the middle seat. just start simple. talk to the person on the elevator. >> my kids always tell me to stop talking to people on the elevator, but i do. >> you get on the elevator now. people turn their back and face the corner like the blair witch project, and they're like, look, man, it's okay. it's just three floors. >> tell me comedy is so hot right now. your specials. have, you know, been chart toppers, and yet you're not an overnight success. you've been doing this since college. sleeping on bus station benches. >> sleeping cars, everything. >> what do you think is the key to longevity in comedy? >> i think the key to longevity in comedy is having a voracious appetite for rejection. and i mean, it's seriously, this is a job where no is the prevalent word in the entertainment industry, and you have to be able to persevere that you know, everyone that i know who is no longer doing this job, it was
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either drugs, depression, or they lack the perseverance. it wasn't because they didn't have the talent. the talent comes through repetition. you just have to have the strength to endure the storm. >> it's incredible. there's so many life lessons in your special. thank you so much for joining us. i appreciate it. and of course, you can stream lonely flowers and you should right now on hulu. >> our thanks to juju when we come back. >> a brand. >> new dancer. >> dance off money. you want. you want me to. >> do private dancer made tina turner a worldwide solo sensation, but there was a song that didn't make the album that didn't make the album unheard for more than 40 years. kinda sluggish today. things aren't really movin'. you could use some metamucil. metamucil's psyllium fiber helps keep your digestive system moving. so you can feel lighter and more energetic. metamucil keeps you movin'. and try the 2 week challenge at metamucil.com can your pad flex with you without shifting? always flexfoam can.
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