this time it was a spirited debate as president obama and mitt romney both traded accusations in an aggressive change of policy positions. good evening everybody. i'm frank somerville. >> the president showed up this time. both candidates came out swinging tonight in round two of the presidential debates. we have team conch.

coverage. >> reporter: president obama was looking to bounce back mitt romney. despite a town hall format with questions coming from undecided voters in the audience, candidates also challenged each other. the gloves came off. >> hold on a second. >> mr. president, i'm still speaking. >> reporter: the showdown might have been over the president's handling of the attack in libya that killed ambassador chris stevens. >> it took the president 14 days. >> get the transcript. >> he did in fact, sir. let me call it. >> can you say it a little louder? >> reporter: the finger pointing continued over the economy. >> governor romney doesn't have a five point plan. he has a one-point plan. that is to make sure folks at the top play by a different set of rules. >> i look at what's happened in the last four years and say this has been a disappointment. we can do better than this.

we don't have to settle for how many months, 43 months with unemployment over 8%. >> reporter: both traded barbs. >> i want to get america's economy going again. 54% of america's workers work in businesses that are taxed as individuals. >> reporter: we -- >> we haven't heard from the governor any specifics -- >> reporter: the president was often ready with a counter punch. >> i'll crack down on china. >> you're the last person who's going to get tough on china. >> reporter: both seemed to do enough for many of their supporters to claim victory. >> thank you. from eric we turn to jana

katsuyama. >> reporter: this was not a partisan watch party. st. mary's college is a private catholic institution. we did find a wide range of reactions to tonight's debate. for many students at st. mary's college this is their first presidential election. they did watch the debate intently. >> i just think it's so funny that they bigger so much. you'd think a presidential debate would be a little more formal. >> reporter: mitt romney supporters say he made strong points on the economy. >> look, you haven't done anything. jobs are getting worse. >> reporter: obama supporters say they felt the president was more aggressive. >> i feel like obama stands for women and students. that's important to me. >> i think he stood up for himself a lot more this debate. he didn't let romney take the upper hand. >> reporter: we found some undecided voters who say the

debate did sway them slightly. >> i feel like romney had a stronger point. >> after tonight i felt obama had a slight edge in the debate. i felt he gave better points. especially at the end. >> i'm a registered republican but leaning more towards obama. >> reporter: many felt the town hall format was interesting. >> i think the format was a little awkward at first. over the course of the debate they got a little more comfortable. >> you got to see them interact. you don't goat see that often in a debate. this was an opportunity for them to engage one on one. >> reporter: tonight students were handing out these forms. voter turnout being a big factor come november. >> ktvu.com we've posted.

>> one poll is in. cnn poll gives president obama the edge, 46% to mitt romney at 39%. the 7 point difference is within the poll's margin of error. in the first debate 67% said romney won. they will face off one more time for their third and final presidential debate. it is set for next monday. it'll be held in florida. the moderator is bob sheafer. coming up tonight at 10:45, one woman says she has the solution to california's education funding problem. how she is taking on the governor and why some say her way would do more harm than good. >> oracles towering that is expected to defend the america's cup is in pieces tonight and being towed back to

port after it capsized in the churning waters of san francisco bay this afternoon. healther holmes has been tracking the effort to retrieve the boat. she's live at pier 80. you spoke to the skipper who was on board when that capsized. >> some very scary moments for the skipper and his crew. his team today did something he never thought it would do, capsize a massive ac 72. this is a devastating blow. he's still predicting an america's cup victory. rattled but not defeated, oracle team usa skipper talked about the spectacular flip the cat ma ran took in san francisco bay this afternoon. >> we nose dived and capsized the boat. we done the exact same turn

previously. >> reporter: the support boat attempted to retrieve the vessel. >> there was a very big tide today. quickly took us out under the bridge and offshore. >> reporter: the disabled vessel is finally being towed to pier 80. the platform appears to be in good shape, but the wing is destroyed. a devastating blow, but not the end. >> this will be a big test for this team. but i've seen this team in similar situation in the past campaign before we won the america's cup. and a strong team will bounce back from that. this won't stop us winning. >> reporter: this was just the eighth time that the team had taken the boat out since august. i'm told it will be several more hours before the boat

arrives back here and the team can start assessing the damage. >> in 15 minutes the charred wreckage of a plane found on the san mateo county coastline. the investigation into what happened to that ill fated flight. >> investigators confirm a motorcyclist who disappeared was the victim of a homicide. he was found in the santa cruz mountains. an autopsy confirmed he was killed. garcia was last seen leaving a party in san jose on his harley davidson on september 18th. the motorcycle is still missing. we're learning more about the recent death of amasser. 25-year-old heather carroll died of blunt force trauma and strangulation. her body was found saturday.

investigators say he told them they had had an argument and that carroll died last wednesday. that was the day she disappeared. >> apple is inviting the press to the south bay next tuesday as it plans to unveil its next new product. this time the event isn't happening in san francisco. it's being held at the california theater in san jose. the words on the invite read, we've got a little more to show you. analysts say the word little is a big hint here. wall street analysts say apple is poised to unveil an ipad mini. online retailer amazon.com says it is hiring 50,000 seasonal employees this year. the addedworkers will help process online orders at the company's 40 fulfillment.

>> registered nurses are going public with their concerns about staffing levels. the nurses say hospital staffing is at a minimum standard and that is putting patients at risk. they want more nurses in all hospital departments. a vice president told us the hospital meets all state requirements for staffing and it does add nurses when necessary. >> in berkeley opponents of a ballot measure that would restrict when people can sit on the sidewalk carried giant puppets to the meeting. it represented leaders who spoke up for the poor and downtrodden. measure s on next month's ballot would prohibit people from sitting or lying on the sidewalks from 7 in the morning until 10:00 at night. opponents say this would

criminalize the homeless. supporters say it's needed. too many people are loitering near businesses, harassing customers and making it difficult for them to do business. >> a red flag warning for parts of the bay area. areas affected and how long it will last. >> the 49ers stadium isn't completed yet, but the nfl could throwing its biggest party here. the announcement today that could lead to

for the first time since 1985 the super bowl could be coming to the bay area. it would be played in the 49ers new stadium that's currently under construction. matt is here to tell us who we're competing against and the special contingency if the bay area loses. >> reporter: you can see the progress. 70% of the 14,000 steel beams are already up. it better look good. the nfl is considering it for a historic super bowl. 49er fans were waiting for the players, hoping for is a signature. news from the nfl could bring a bigger surprise. miami and san francisco will be competing for the right to host

super bowl 50 in 2016. the losing bid will compete against houston for the right to host in 2017. >> i would buy tickets. i would be there at that time. >> reporter: the game would be played here in santa clara. a super bowl big committee would decide where the parties, practices and other things would be held. >> the super bowl will be an enormous celebration of a half century of america's unofficial holiday. >> reporter: the nfl says former host cities reported a 300 to $600 million boost to the local economy. >> money, money, money. >> reporter: the 49er fans got their autograph and a punter is getting a kick out of a possible super bowl here. >> it'd be nice to be the one playing in it too. that'd be really cool. >> reporter: 49 earns chief

executive office said nothing brings a region together like a super bowl. now we have to wait to get -- for the owners who are expected to pick the host of super bowl 50 and 51 in may. >> coming up tonight at 10:30, a grand sendoff for the san francisco giants as they take their quest for a pennant on the road. the question of whether injured marco scutaro will play tomorrow. >> police have arrested a seventh suspect in connection with the city's thirteenth homicide of the year. angel lamas was involved in a fight in april that killed 14- year-old alberto reyes. six other suspects have been arrested. investigators say the homicide may have been gang related. billy brooks jr. has been identified as the man found shot to death and wrapped in a

blanket in oakland last week. his body was found in the backseat of a car on richie street. so far police say no arrests have been made and they don't have a motive. a $10,000 reward is being offered leading to the arrest of the killer. >> an emotional rally on the steps of an oakland courthouse today. the mother of a teenager who was shot and killed by a police officer said she will not rest until there is a full investigation. calling the district attorney's investigation into the shooting both shoty and unprofessional. it falls on her now to speak for her dead son. >> why did you shoot him? you should be held accountable. this will not go on in our community. >> the district attorney says it is not going to press charges against officer miguel monto who shot and killed

blueford. the da said he acted reasonably believing his life was in danger. blueford's family says he would never point a gun at an officer and claims that allen was racially profiled. >> mourners gathered for a heart felt memorial service this afternoon in honor of u.s. ambassador who was killed in a terrorist attack in libya. chris stevens was hailed as a hero, a brother, and a man who died trying to make the world a better place. >> reporter: under the dome of san francisco city hall they came from near and far to pay tribute to a california man who built bridges between the united states and the world. >> chris, thank you. >> reporter: john christopher stevens the first u.s. ambassador killed in the line of duty in 33 years. just 52, stevens died in what's

now called a terrorist act in libya on september 11th. libya's ambassador apologized for not protecting one of america's best. >> we lost a friend. we lost a supporter and a hero. >> reporter: retired diplomat tom pickerring mentored stevens. >> they still make them like they used to. >> reporter: pickerring now heads the investigation into the killing of stevens and three other americans. stevens parents told me today's gathering was a celebration of how their son lived. not how he died. >> it's not important who your mother is only and not just important who your father is. it's very important who your big brother is. we had the very best. >> reporter: those who knew and loved him best described a little boy who loved life and rarely stopped smiling. >> so my big brother, my best friend, i'll see you next time. >> reporter: so ended this

celebration of the life of a great american who died trying to make the world a better place. >> this afternoon's memorial was the product of weeks of planning by san francisco officials and stevens family. >> we looked at the grace cathedral. this is a seat of government and he did serve our government. >> the mayor's office tells us the event was paid for by stevens family and private donations with city workers donating their services. we have posted more of today's service at ktvu.com. >> the san francisco spca is offering a $500 reward for the recovery of a stolen puppy. staff members say this 10 week old terrier mix was stolen from the spca's adoption center this afternoon. officials say she hasn't received all of her vaccines

and could be at risk. she needs to be monitored in case complications arise from her surgery. >> it warmed up today. these were the observed highs from the national weather service. 90-degrees in santa rosa. 80 in redwood city. downtown san francisco, 71 degrees. warmer today. warmer tomorrow. fire weather warning, red flag warning for parts of northern california. that lasts all day tomorrow. look how close to us that is. that's a big deal. we're right on the edge of a red flag warning. concerns tomorrow. then again on thursday for fire danger. increased fire danger. i'll be back here in a little bit. we'll have all the details. >> hurricane paul came ashore on mexico's southern baja

peninsula. the storm packed 70-mile an hour winds and brought 3 to 5 inches of rain. many streets in one town were flooded. the government opened dozens of shelters for people to wait out the storm. >> major changes in store for a congested san francisco to row fair. also another closure if a bay area bridge this weekend. >>

a search crew has located burned wreckage of a missing plane. the coroner is trying to identify the remains after pilot. the crash site is only about a mile from the half-moon bay airport. ktvu's john sasaki tells us investigators have a good idea

who was in that plane. >> reporter: on a windy bluff search crews discovered a crash site in morning one day a a plane disappeared. sheriffs officials escorted our camera near the wreckage. >> if it's burned, mangled wreckage is what it is. >> reporter: yesterday morning a plane took off from the airport heading for arizona. it never reached its refueling destination and the wife of 75- year-old andrew hayden of florida called in a missing person's report. the search quickly began. >> we do have a sheriffs office supervisor that has been in contact with the family as well as this afternoon and with discovery of the wreckage. >> reporter: any markings or numbers were destroyed. human remains were also badly burned. this has yet to be officially confirmed. >> i think a reasonable person

would assume this is the plane. but, again, without any characteristics, definitively, i can't say that. >> reporter: it's now up to the coroner to confirm the pilot's identity. investigators from the national transportation safety board will be here at the airport and at the crash site tomorrow morning to try to determine what caused this crash. in half-moon bay. >> police in san francisco are looking for five men. police say at least seven men were fighting around 2:00 this morning in the mission district. five people ran. officials say a 44-year-old man was taken to the hospital with life threatening injuries. another man was also taken to the hospital, but is expected to survive. >> san francisco's metropolitan transportation agency unanimously approved major changes for bike riders on two heavily traveled streets. this is what the bike lanes

would now look like. there would be a separated lane for bicyclists next to it a buffer lane then lanes of traffic and just one lane for parking. the changes will be between scott and bakers streets. it would also mean the loss of about 55 parking spaces. cal trans is shutting down the san mateo bridge in both directions this weekend and next. they'll put in place a permanent fixture for a cracked beam and allow them to do some seismic work. it's scheduled to be closed friday the 19th at 10:00 p.m. and will remain closed until october 22nd at 5:00 a.m. >> all that and money for schools goes directly to schools. >> more money for schools. at 10:45 we break down two competing pitches to voters. >> marco scutaro is recovering

from a hard hit last night. will there be payback in st. louis? we'll have a report.

the san francisco giants team plane got a special wet sendoff at sfo as their charter jet left for st. louis. our camera was the only one there. the giants scheduled to play games three, four and five at busch stadium in st. louis. games six and seven would be played at at&t park if necessary. one huge question is will secondman marco scutaro be back

in the lineup. kevin wayne is live in san francisco now. >> reporter: so far so good. looks like there is a good chance that marco scutaro will be in the lineup for tomorrow in st. louis. that is good news for giants fans, especially after last night's ugly collision at 2nd base. >> going to be tough to turn two. >> reporter: the boos that ranged down echoed today. >> he did something that was reckless, it should have been runner's interference. should have been a double play granted. the only guy who made a mistake was the umpire. >> reporter: scutaro would be seen pointing to his left hip. >> we'll keep our fingers crossed. >> it was hard to see him come out of the game. then we're all worried about him. hopefully that little bit of extra rest will pay off where he can be in tomorrow.

>> reporter: matt holliday said he wished he started his slide earlier. >> i hope he's okay. i know him. he's a good guy. i wasn't obviously trying to do anything more than keep us out of a double play. >> broken ball rolled toward shortshop. the shuffle and clark taking the runner out. >> reporter: there's been bad blood between the clubs before. will clark's side led to this bench clearing brawl. today giant's manager was asked if the giants will seek retaliation. >> that's over. you have to move on and you hate to see what happened happen, but what's important is we keep our focus and go out there and trying to win a ball game. >> reporter: some insiders say his answer is terrifically correct. that doesn't mean there won't be retaliation. if there is, it could happen as soon as tomorrow. >> let's talk more about that

game. thunderstorms in the st. louis area could impact tomorrow's game. >> bill is tracking that possibility. >> here's st. louis. let's move through time watch these storms start to move in. tomorrow morning, here we are about game time surrounded by some thunderstorms. rain as well. as we get into about the sixth, seventh inning starts to clear out. that's a strong line of thunder showers. st. louis game three is going to be warm. mid to upper 60s. real good chance for rain. they'll see some kind of rain on that field. how much they're going to get, will it rain the game out, that's tough to say. right now there are showers in the forecast. they're staying there. winds will be light. we'll see you back here with your forecast and that red flag warning showing up in parts of the bay area. >> you with watch that game

here on ktvu. first pitch scheduled for 1:07. >> a foul mouthed man is known as evil elmo. this is him in new york city. he was thrown out of central park after yelling obscenities. now parents in san francisco tell us they think he's turned up in the richmond district. they took a picture of this man. we later found elmo in fisherman's wharf but he denied being evil elmo. >> i think people are harassing him because they don't like the federal rulings on trademarks. >> parents tell us they're concerned because elmo is an icon for children. san francisco's ban on the yellow pages is in jeopardy because of a federal appeals court ruling in seattle. currently san francisco law prohibits the distribution of phone books who anyone who does

not opt in. the city's yellow pages restrictions violate the first amendment. the case could set a precedent. now you can get ktvu news to go. download the ktvu app. you can watch all of our newscast live. >> stock markets had their biggest gains in a month today. the dow rose 127 points. low inflation and a sign that the construction industry is making a comeback. the chief executive of cit ibank resigned effective immediately today. it reported strong than expected earnings. there are reports he had battled with the banks board recently over strategy. the european union privacy regulators put google on notice

today. regulators want to know what investigation google collects about users and how long it keeps it. they want an opt out for users. google collects data for advertising purposes. >> after being locked out for two and a half years, employees return to work today, not before holding an informational picket. after a judge ruled the lockout was illegal the two sides still can't agree on a contract or back wage agreement. >> yosemite national park employees are helping the state health department study the potentially deadly hantavirus. health officials hope to use information to figure out how many park worker may have been unknowingly infected. they also want to learn about

exposure and prevention of the disease. the concern is about another potentially deadly disease. a chipmunk was found sick and diagnosed with the plague. warnings are posted. the plague can be transmitted to humans through bites from an infected flee or being exposed to an infected animal. >> elderly man missing for several days. also what might become of a former landmark in the south bay. >> back here, it's heating up around here. which cities will make

the vice mayor has stepped down from his post. joe madrono resigned just days after a jury ticket convicted him of embezzling almost $160,000 in his personal business. clayton's mayor says the resignation was the right thing for the city. >> he deal with this issue as a personal issue and get it out from being a city issue. >> he has maintained his innocence and has said he plans to appeal. he faces up to four years in prison. >> the sheriffs department is asking for help in finding a 77- year-old man. investigators say the family of john mcconeghy couldn't find him. he is 5'9" and weighs about 160 pounds. he has gray hair and blue eyes. he also reportedly suffers from dementia. the san francisco fire

department says last week's four-alarm fire caused an estimated $7 million in damage. three buildings were damaged in that fire. one of them housed the popular squat and gobble restaurant. authorities say it does not appear that it was suspicious. >> in news of the world tonight, thieves broke into a museum and stole seven works of art that could be worth hundreds of millions of dollars. they belonged to a private collection and were being shown publicly together for the first time. one expert said the thieves knew exactly what they were after. an accused computer hacker will not be extradited to the u.s. he's accused of carrying out one of the biggest computer break ins in 2001. he hacked into the pentagon and nasa commuters for about a year looking for evidence of ufo's

and found it. in cuba people will no longer need to wait in line for visas to lift the country. it can still prevent people from leaving for reasons of national security. likely meaning disdents would be restricted. >> conservation groups went to court today in oakland to try to stop california from allowing the practice of fracking. it's the practice of shooting water and chemicals into cracks beneath the earth's surface to force gas or oil to the surface. the suit claims california does not adequately monitor possible pollution. does a government agency is poised to vote on the future of the former air force radar tower. -- opened space district is expected to decide between two options tomorrow night. one is a raise $400,000 to

repair the first floor of the tower. the second would be to put a fence around it for $74,000. each option provides time for preservationists to raise money. it sits on the former air force base which is being convert intoed a regional park. >> billions more for public schools if california. up next, the two plans to raise taxes and why they're so different. >> 61 degrees outside our [ female announcer ] now get high speed internet at home on our newly expanded advanced digital network, a connection you can count on. introducing at&t u-verse high speed internet with more speed options, reliability and wi-fi hot spots than ever. go to our website below to get u-verse high speed internet for just 14.95 a month for 12 months with a one-year price guarantee. it's all the speed you need all at a great price. our newly expanded advanced digital network gives you more of what you enjoy online. and with at&t, our wireless gateway turns your home into a private wi-fi hot spot

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she has put tens of millions of dollars on the line. molly mungers prop 38 will give voters a chance to raise their own taxes and deliver billions of dollars to california

schools desperately in need of more money. prop 38 could be a measure that does more harm than good. >> reporter: more than 10,000 public schools in california. this no two ballot initiatives. governor brown's proposition 30 and proposition 38 funded almost entirely by one person. >> when i went to those schools they were funded fifth highest in the entire united states. >> reporter: a civil rights attorney has invested more than $30 million of her own money. why? she says to pay it forward. in doing so she is in direct competition with governor brown's proposition 30.

>> 38 does two things that are important. it raises eight times more money for schools than 30. all that money for schools goes directly to schools. >> reporter: the governor's prop 30 and prop 38 are competing measures. you will see they both fund education. but that the similarities mostly end there. proposition 30 raises the sales tax for four years and the income tax for seven years on those making more than $250,000. prop 38 raises the income tax on all but the poorest californians for about 12 years. 30 generates about $6 billion initially. 38 raises $10 billion a year for schools. >> that's enough to restore all the cuts and bring us back to a well rounded education. where kids have art and music and physical education. >> reporter: most of the money from proposition 38 would go to k through 12 and early

childhood education with local schools or charters deciding how money is spent with public input. >> prop 38 sends billions straight to our local schools. >> reporter: tv ads claim politicians won't be able to touch 38's money. but no on 38 chair says there's a catch. >> my kindergartner is going to be in the second grade before she sees any of the benefits. >> reporter: kinney calls 3 a well intentioned but poorly worded proposition. >> the flaw is it creates a $6 billion budget hole which is going to be cut out in year one. >> reporter: that budget hole wasn't created by the plan. it's tied up in the recently passed state budget in which democratic lawmakers hope to fill that gap with the passage

of the governor's proposition. even if they get above 50% of the vote, only one can become law. >> somebody is telling you that if you don't help pass this thing you will be punish. money will be taken away from your kids and sent to other needs in the state. >> reporter: voters must decide if the governor's less expensive short term tax hike to soften school cuts is better than the long term tax increase aimed at restoring california schools or if the answer is no to taxes, none of the above. >> a ktvu.com. >> we're warming up around here. you'll notice it today and tomorrow and the next day. forecast the next couple days calls for warming.

that's why that red flag warning has gone into effect. up in the northeast part of the bay. all the way into the valuing from redding south to sacramento. forecast headlines, wednesday and thursday. that's the max is on thursday. higher fire danger obviously. the daytime highs are going to get into the 90s in the warmest spots. there's the extent of your red flag warning. strong winds in the valley. that illustrates that if their red flag warning just because we're not doesn't mean that fire danger isn't high. we'll have the same dry conditions. high pressure sets up here. funnel through the east bay hills. wind gusts could go 25, 30 miles an hour. in the valley it'll be blowing. inland temperatures will make it into the 90s. right now you can tell the

winds are working. look at santa rosa. that's a north wind. that air sinking. at this time of night it's 68 degrees. san jose, nearly 10 degrees cooler. you will see more sinking air tomorrow. tomorrow night at this time i'll show you the current numbers. tomorrow's forecast highs and the fog, not an issue. fog is cleared from the coast. that north wind has scoured it away. lots of 90s in inland spots. these are your forecast highs for cities around the bay area. it's going to be a very warm one tomorrow. i'd call it hot for this time of year. air quality is okay. not bad. until we get a big rain, our first big rain we're going to be worried. that's happening tomorrow. it's happening again as we head into thursday.

like this. forecast sh plenty of sunshine. really nice weather. outstanding weather. by the weekend it cools down. temperatures still remain above the average. it's going to be nice. >> thank you. after weeks of speculation it is official. change is coming to the x factor. [ music ] >> fox announced today that khloe kardashian and mario lopez will host the second season. you can watch it here on ktvu at 8:00 p.m. >> baseball playoffs. the new york yankees are in a slump and oc1

it was 25 years ago that baby jessica was rescued in texas. the rescue efforts took 58 hours. no one knew if she could survive the ordeal.

today jessica is 26 years old and married with two children. she says she has no memory of her time in the well, but she does have a scar where her head hit the well. >> let's talk major league baseball playoffs. if the giants make the world series it's looking like they're going to play the tigers. >> or another comeback that new york would have to make. the teammates are on the rope. new york looked surprised when they managed to hit the ball against justin verlander. three games to none. tigers backing up verlander like he needs any help. he gets it here. nice catch by the tiger catcher. one hand grab almost into the seats. verlander got offensive help from young. a rocket that lees the

premises. all those great hitters in the tigers history. all time post season home run leader with seven. 1-0 lead. miguel cabrera shot into the wide open spaces in right center. 2-0 lead. cabrera whacking the ball all over the park. 8 1/3 innings. 3 hits, 3 k's. gets his buddy phil coke to get the final out. 3-0 lead. verlander is 3-0 in post season with a 0.74 e.r.a. could be necessitated because of an injury for the giants. marco scutaro literally taken out by matt holliday last

night. an mri reveals no serious damage. the giants have to go with ryan theriot at 2nd base. he provides a nice two run cushion last night as you see scutaro get clobbered there by matt holliday. he was certainly late. here's theriot in the bottom of the eighth inning. it was the cardinals who ironically let theriot go this last winter. >> we put out a pretty good player that has experience. got a big hit for us. ryan theriot. what's kind of been forgotten because of how marco's done is what a great job theriot did for us before he assumed the every day 2nd base duties you're on timeout leo!

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