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anklin who wrote, hinian said to be cen buh and xes.s.turnout, withttas, that be true, but not so much with death. in america,athe e b of ultimately accountntg for who is dead or alive belongs to the social security administration, which compilil something cald the death master file. the are about 86 m mlionames on this national list of the deceased. iteadly seses business becauswhen you're de thehe leeanst bahe i.r.medirew enforcement anthe like scratch you ouofxistence. but t found out that ththdeath master file isftet fatatly flawededed as we first repoed last march, a lot ofeople w o pass onn don't get on theist, wch cos taxperbillions of dollars in fraraulent payments to people standi in for the departed. and then, there are ehose who

ararvery surised to hear that they'rde. homany of yohaveee dearededd he federgornment? all of you. yore lookiki pretty well to me this would be a seance, except ese are living, breathing americans thate conjnjed up from around thehcotry, all declared dead d the social security administratn. don pilger passed away when he tried to report death of his wife. this is a formrmrom the social security administration. the idea was you were going to ca this mber and essentially report that yo wife d ed. >on pilger: exaca. and hat dion foowin. eighghati weo acacss my bank account a itt .. ty ptpting,g nvid pin."so iento the banand gigi the the pblem i w hang. e ped d n%nbeo e mputer and shehgy hashe saysr.ilger, i

not yoururife." pelley:y:rista pace's l wat ort at an rly age. >ria pa: was ll itohekto open upn cocot,t,nd sam thing. n'lp you.""w w w 'rcomip sed. u ed to go tsocial curyty offic" anani did. bubujust rdomly, years later, itould come up. i'd want to get a car or something. "oh, no. i'i'dead?" . >>elley: betty denault was summonon to her social security office where the computer read lili an epitaph. >> betty denault: ana she pointed on the scrcen up in the d i , "what do. ananshehua, e d" ananansa, l,l, did@d co up " and she said, "all it takes is somebody to int on the andit just makes a a

>> pelley: most people never fifi out h h it happens, b when the federal compmter says u' dead, y might as ll be ththterrible news relayed byy the gornmene t banks anan ererit agencieie judy rivers told us she had $80,000 in her aount but when she tried to use a bank cardt ore, they assumed shdentity f. u uletes yrbabaccs. yoco't adicard how d u li udvewell, foa timeliin m mca and i i uldn't u an apartment. i had my debit cards, which were, of course, no good. i used one wititut knong the consequences, and was actually taken to jail and questioned because th thoug i was an identitytyhief. >> pelley: you endedp arrested? ling yourbecause ofllf this iv for sixonths.>> pelefy: y y had been

>> rivers: cyber ghost. pelley: cyber ghost. >> pilker: cybyb gst. >> pelley: judy riversrsow haun aorrowed camper inn abama, a a while her finances were ruined, sheoundhathe governmentakakak tididprofit selling the death mamaer file to credit agencies. , word oflher death was nearly immortal in dozedatabases, and it came again and again. shprotested toret t cy called chexsystems for w wt seseede an eteity. >>iver fally, em redee e told mto send minformation n and they would consider it, after i had sent it to them over 20 times. >>elely: they would coider whher you were still ave. >>ivers: correct >> pelley: we e oked in the alabama vil records offi for rivers' death ce, t it's t there. no one seems to know how she got in the federal death master file. god may judge the quick and the dead, but it's the statethat

eyas asoci cu, ththisof roomoeor ere recordur g d notes om doctohospital fun homer r mili, d ev stste e s itown rules. perhapspbecacae the dead don't te, many of the states donon spend much keeping tabs on ttm. this is the statof alabama vitarecords vault.t. it is a place so secure that you ne a key and a fingerpnt to get inside. but on in here, the technolo becomes pretty 19th centnt ththe are death certificateses frfr2, e e ar monpapar recoin here. now, the state of alabama is movingoward an electroc system, and it's about0% of the way there. t there's sosoittle fuing apouou the country for that kind of transition that there are about a dozen states in americic that do not have a statewide

death records. how accurate is the death master file? >> patrick o'carroll: i guess, e best w w to say is as accurate as it can be. >> pelely: patatck oroll is ththsocialalecurityministtititi i genel. his office invs the h mastere useand used >> o'carroll: right now, t t deatmamaer file has in it about 86 million records in it, d it gets about two o llion records every year from the stat. and we're probably, asasith everytng els as strong as the weakest link, in termshat some states are reporting electronically, have very good data. d then with other es, it done on a mome hhazard level. so agaga, thgoing be 9somfallllg througthcrac er >>elleutut'car tol ththive le "falng through the acksist what eps up anight. the much more costly problem is in the mililons of america whw do die and are not recordedu your office fod th social

six and d half million pe overerhege of 111. do y rlly believe that there are six and a half million oplelever the age of 111 in this country?? >> o'carroll: no, and in fact, that's why we did the audit on itit what we were finding is that pele t tt re o or 1121yearsof a were enin bk counts, anit g@u suspspio. d`we f t6.5 ion was not recorded as being deceased in ssa's records. >elley: h many people are over the agegef f 1 in this country? >> o'cararll: i'm m inking ten. >>ely: most federal agencieses depend on the h master file, so i ia death isn't sted, federapayments jkeep coming. we wondered what that would add up to during the course of a year, bu turns out, no one t fededal government is keepipg an overall cou. the beste cod coce up with was a w ports from dividual agencies.

d stssisnc mor opver six yes.s. thth came to $1.1 billion. fice of f rsonnel magement p pd ad federal retirees a little over billlln. anin 2010 ale, t i.r. pa morthan $400 millioin refunds the dead.social secity doest know how nynyetemt and tytychks aasby t latis of dea like sand kbro. andrdrkimbroi'm a... a wife, a mother, a grandmother,r, ald now a felolo >> pelley: like a lot of people, s-e tookn her aging, ill mother, and a joint bank account th her. en her mothehediedthe disability befits keke coming. when nid she die? >> kimbro: she die.. 1984. >> pely: when shdied, did you report her death to social secucuty? >> kimim i did not.

>> kimbro: i tugerhaps it would have beetakecaref by e radire asomepot. pely: were you surised thatse benits coming to you? >> kimbro: no, not initially, beuse i had had a convnvsation wi my mom prior to her death that i would be enti to the benefits. i had just assumed d d went along with that, thinking g at i was entitltl. >> pelley: andhat did it come to? >> kimbro: or r r -year period, $160,000. >> pley: though she tookhe checks for thr decades, otherwise, sdra kimbro is s eaf ie shanr husband d d fullimjobshrhr riment, solid ddle class feand iaed t cren. but then came annexpectell from social securiri. the investigator from social security musve asksk where your mother s? >> kimo: o well, explained toim i iediately. i didn't try to say that she was alive. i said that she was ceased.

suspected as much because it i using a clevev new tl. o'carro: so, we go to dire and seeeef anybodod hasn been to medicfo thths. d ify ven't been, , enyou know, trtrto go ouou d ma p call totwm, e if there, you kn, ststl here.. also, we look at people that reach 100 years of age, d try totoeach out and see if they'r you know, doing g ll. >> pelley: sa a mbro's mother would have bebe 93 and hadn't used medicare in 30 years. kiro was chaed with eft, plededuilty, and is now looking at at least a year in prison.. she spoke with us, she said, to warn others. >> kimbrbr i've spent 66 years, no criminal hihiory.y. vet done nothing w, lilid a goodife,edid ythi i i ssetoto a lawawbiizenan ccbehihumaro and this is where i am. and obviously, "felo is t coatible wh thother thethings that said, , t t is my

>>elle inscteneral carrrrl sat cialecity isang out 15cocoons a a fre tal. but dd tou$55 ion f o'c'crollllwhat we' too o o ethe worout thth is, if you do tatat@and you' nosupp to do i i w going fifd you, wreoing to arrest you,rereoing to g m bk.k. elle or thlast decade, carrols s de 70 endatis s ocial security to reform t death master file. but he says there's little sense of urgencycycy isisart of the probl here@ that, in wasngton, $50 -illi or $ $0 million a year just isn't a veve big numumr?r? >arro: interti u brinthat bause i dealaligigbebe. about bon g gouevy y. , whenenou srt tina lo aterce o$2 bon,thatto, meto a gegel tataers ing be tremely large aants ney-- rely, percentage-wise, small compared to what's

pelley: as for the ling who've been declared dead, social securury told us "7e work very h hd to cororct errors when we learn of them." the agancy said that its error rate is only one third of 1%. t that still adds upo about 9,000 americans killed o by the government each . r them, c be ng r rdd to rurrectn. it toody rerfi y dada sheheries fewedaranmegg se. you carry a letttt around wiwi yoyo.. >> rivers: all the time. >> pelley: ...everywhere you go. what does it say? >> rivers: it's s the sociall seserity office, and i have it updated once a month and it sayayth..whi i , what my socialalecurity number is, that i have been mistakenly declared as deceasedn@thth past, and athat not ect,nd a a w w

le and youthatatupdad every h?>> eonth. >>lehy? ivs: :sehen you get to aut three months, people look at the date and say, "well, this is old. yoyoknow, youocoululve dieie since then." >> pelley: after wfirst broadcast this story, senators ron johnson and tom carper introduced a bill to ensure that improper payments the dead stop, and the living stay off the death master file. the bill passed the committee and is waiting to move to theh senaloor.

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that can make itearly impossib to recognize or idtify faces.ififou'vver d d fblesoue e anare your dtor sn ther it's bn n toost ofofhe dicarluntintly.. hearing abobt can feel litttt le teri thetwtwightone. but for ople who a fac ind,tions re cob hodenef th. 's 31 year he a cocoegdegreehah`d grgrt jo, and sms pfectly rmalal st't ask ho identi anfaces. we're e into p up e fit on ...even ry famous onon. >> jacob hodod: nodea. pstah we showed jacob fes witht haa pure tesof ognition >>odesno. pe.

thaterson.n. >> stahl: he's seejimmy rterer plenty of f mes. and knows s chael jojoan, o. hodes: oh, lo. >> shl: he j jt can't recognize their faces. odes: n w, that's st impossible. >> sta: can you describe my face? you're staring right at it. >> hodes: highheekbones, light eyey. >> shl: clearly, jac cou see my face, but hsaysysf we happened trun into each other in a feways,e woulnowwmem otr won sht blon haiq. >> bduchne: theytsomedy, ey have time with tm, thehave a ne relationship. then, a ek latat, thth wk past the stahl: bradaduchaine is a& prpressor dartmouth college who s bebe studying face bpindness for r arly 15 yeyr he ss the rdest thing g understand is how pele can see miar fac cognit soe ted detratn to ve me a littlete-- f fes ed upside d/wn.>> sre s famo yore gngngo beememo

>> shl: okok. duchae: youno can you... >> stahl: boy, that is hard. >> duchaine: ...can identify any of tse peopl >ta: i was cocotely at loss. you ththk i'd all of the peoplele& >> duchaine:e sese t all a lo >> stahl: i dot t ow any of thesespeople. i really don't. ducine: you want to see them uprht?? >>tahlre. wasstonishi wi just that c, they became recognizable peoplele before m meyes. ( lauger ) i owohavolta. i kn mley.aners deelhin, jenner a a aon, ndndbuk. bubuthonat reallt wathe young woman onheheower ght-- aughter. i didn't know my own daughter? duchaine: yeah. >> s: i di't know wn daughterer >> there shes. >> wow so is this... am i getting a feeling for whateoplwith face blindndss h he? >>haine:s y ..en you look at that, there's clearly... thers a a here. >> shl: : , yeah. >>uchae: thearts. there are eyes e's uth. but you justan't p i i

that's stunning. i i@elerriblfor now. d dha yea itffic : d rgelunknowowow opnosionlyot its nin the 10s, when aoupl ldie came backm dwa wh henjuries d ul't reczeife or res. and it tk r 50 years to dvethatple coulbefa blind jacob hodos,s,nd jo livingston,a rereteher; b b dubrsk aarartsdesi; and menovo a or. if i wewe your patieie, wewe. you'spent a lo time with me discussing a problem. i come bk ththnene time. dr. meg novotny: oh, no, nono no. yowalk out to the window at the front and stt checeing out, and i walk out of the room and i don'know who you are. >> stahl: come on. she relies on tient charts, she ld us. t there aren anynyf those in ben'n'office, where lunch in the cafeteria can be tricky.

diucsiononititonabtone prprecane guyy acro tab gupuprom anys, "god, th's really intesng. en you have ateeting, n you invitee? thanks. see you." is it? i dot knkn. >> stahl: who is it? >> dubrovsky: i haha nonidea. >> s qhl: is ia memory issue? >> hodes: not only. >> jo livingston: the memory is never created. >> stata: thface doesn't g put... >> livingston: it doesn't get filed. >> stahl: so they have to rely on oer strategto intifop--r,odsh y al theiroice, entyle of dress.s budjab to uspspat it n all fallpahememe chs theiir, likeke colleae named sylvia who h uldn't find one y until she started putting her hair into her usual ponyny. >> hodes: and she, like, pututt into the ponytatl, and once it was in place, that was sylvia. it clicked. then, she took her hair back out of that nytail. >> stata: right then a there? >> hodes: yep. she j st put it in and then took it out a... >> stahl: : she went from sylvia, not sylvia, sylvia, no sylvia? >> hodes: she disappeared. >> stahl: come on.

ouere d chd someone e e 'sore e >> h: nowm ntedwith this siation ..that got weird. caususi knew this persrs was sylvia, but it didn't feel liki lvia >> stahl: : ces mean so much to us-- identity, beauty, character, a place to hang all our memoriesesbout a person. faces have captivated artists rever, so it may surprise youu to learn that the man who patee ces,enowd portist ucososs so facelind, d d vely so. sasau weuto ha dinnererith sobody, d en you sahethe xt day >>huck clolowouldndn rerereer her. >> stataand t, he has spenen his career, even after a collapseal a aery left h most paralyzed, painng, wewe... faces. chuck close has face blindness and he pais@faces. >> close: the e ason ihink s driven to it was to... t t

matter to , and mmit them tome i` ` e way c, whh isslhe wleleprocess wn, brk it down tolots of lile mememekle pieces. >tahl: which is exactly how he crcates these works. he can't me see of a whole ce, so he works from a photographphith a grid on it, anantrtrslates what he sees, uare by square,@onto his canvas. well, guess wh we've done? >> close: i dot ow. >> stahl: we put together a a iz for you. we b bught some of our famous faces along to s shim. >> close: from the chin, i tnk 's'sum, leno. taanre`rprisisat hd d dxtyarn >> closell, from the lip i thin's tigoods.>> sta: yeah, ll, you're etty gd. but,course, not peect. >> close: i don't have a clu >> stahl: that's'som cruise. >> close: right now, my guts are tied in kns beuse thik very

me most nervous. "oh, now, i have to figure out o this person is." >>hl: : cahe i't cognizizg ese e e wa mouso. erface ia zzlehas toso>> close: what i'm thinking? you don'n'see too many p pplef wiwi just a mustache anymore, so that means it's probably somebody who's not alive. so, if it's an african american of f c ctain age with a mustache, it... it might be main luther king. >> stahl: you're amazing. you deduce, deducededu.. you're@eike sher holmeme re >> cse: ye, thth is how gegegeugh life. trick one, phof 's dauguger anydyw wh>> no way. >> s: ? wo on ititbeuse 's livingston: w wl, it may be, t nothing's coming. >>tahl: it's someone in your

but w l, she didn't get t . 's yououughter now, you it?isclear now? >> livingston: it is believable now. >> stahl: we were led that a condition extreme, it couldkee from recognizing eir n chihen, cocod have been almost completely u unown until very recently. we asked dr. oliver sack the famous chronicler r fascinating neurololical condition who passed away last summer.hehwroteboutace indnin hite bobk,e mind's eye." >> dr.`.liver sacks: it isisith our ces ate facecthe rl s: w ou expxpin at malalld d nidentihihioble>>ksit iuay a mpt of pepele do n#t ing itp. many people who are color blind do not know of it until they take an army medical. one sort of assumes thth other

evermyoccu tme that pple wololo,aa ceand st ikehat.->> lgsto i bieth i s go wople. but i no idea a@ the reason. i ju thought i was stupid. >> stahl: jo only learnethe was such a thing as face blins whenhehetumbled across thihiarticle, and came to be tested in duchai l. a few hours ter her second virrindencncnc shshanchbi e tending e me e e uchae: i kepacing my facea popoti whe she uld see it. livto realid onofofhe group wastaringt me ia way th peodon'rm hainnd so finally, a t, s s "doou kw who am >> livinton: ah. >> duchaine: and she put it all tototherer >> stahl: duchaine had seen fafa blindns in action; jo had en the miss c c cctions of he life. >> livinton: if that had beeee anybody se, they would have beenresumably furiouou wou not ve spoken to me, and would haverobably never have spokeke to me agaiai i d ner ve kno ththererer >tahlah.

alizhomany times have i do this?">> stahlright. "how manfriends haveveou offended? ow many peoplen't talking to you and you don't kw >> livingston: and we'll never know. >> sacks: peopleo think u y nuing them o o or m mor iti. that's w wt's so itanto cogngne wh one hasand to. totoit i swhicis exahahas himsf s ju don wrteabt e t t t to is ce ele. >> sackshavead dficulty recognizing faces for as long as i i n remeer. my pblememxtends not only to my neareststnd dearest, bubualso to m melf. i've sometimes had the experience of apologizing to someone, and realizing it's a mirror. >> shl: no. >> sacks: i have, indeed. >> stahl: no. because you didn't'tnow it was you?u? sacks: i... i could see tha it wasge, umsy w a d.d. i'vw d y alinwis. i vene scial fea.

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>> stahlhlno one knows whatt causes lifelong g ce blindndss. itas d dcovered so recently,y, ietsrererebegien vel its secrs. and somef thclueare e mi pe whonceor face recogtion, t lost it after suffering damage to part of the brain. and in an interesting ist, ththe people are also ofofring inght into the way thet of us recogogze faces. imagine waki up after a trauma and not being able to recognize thsest t that's wt haenededo llee castdo. up until the fall 2009, did you ve a trouble recognizing faces at a a? >> colleen castaldo: no, not at ala. >> staliverybody else? asaso:e everyrod seye>> s shl: that ce ononnight wh c c cen had asee anwarushedo th hoitit hes fod aitur,

wa't rig.. casaso: t ns-i thght atas mting the each for the first tim d then, i wod, you know, sten tthem and think"i t knowowthey..they were acting like they knew me already."" >> sta: oh, disorienting. shfigured it was the medicationonuntil heclose friend dn came tsi wearg ite,nd cleen sumemeshehwas s othe mememel staff. casta looked her smedand i rnedk my sbanarte talk him, ae stooup and said,d,"doree" and`i loloed and thoht, "doreen"? and then, it hite. ipknknight then and there, this is the problem i had been having, at i... >> stahl: faces. >> castaldo: yeah, f. >> stahl: : w, even fafas she kn well bebere... >>ldo: no. >> stahl: okay, well, that's orge clooney. >> castaldo: oh, wow. no, wouldn't know w at. sta...are mteo her. >> cldo:o, ion't knonowho thats. whis ithe esiden

ta le in dine:e:has t.it'sn righteale. >> s: acre. >> duchaine: that's right. stahl: and the location of that hole whwhwhthe tumor beenas a alu- if r voving that area caused the loss offace recogth whalrofa it turns out tt neneoscitisthaveeetryiyi toigure out how it is that our brains recognize facac for decades. >> ncy kansher: face recognition a very difficult problem,ecause all faces are basically the same. >> sm.t.t.rotnakaher. kanwier: erar twhis hehe ere's s hihe. there'is thing the eya,l l e . d crinatg onfa om a athers a ryry y diicict thg,because 'sse stltl differences in t same basic structure that distingsh one ththg fr another. stahl: and it is exactly those subt diffefences face blind people like jo livingston ss. >> livivgsto i could describe anything that i can put into

overala shape, whether y yr ears stick outu t t ose ingsould b bngt down perha frorothe population held to a few millio : she cosay ispupuasark eyes, , gh cheeeees, an oval cewhicic would allow jo t tdistinguish hehefrom this person. but this face and this face? impossible. >> livingston: i canay wt i can se but i i`nnot sayhe micro- meurements that e what tela rmal psosoats d not t mebodythme specifatio >> stahlhlbut hois it that the rere of us can perive these two people as distinin individuals, despite the similarities? an important clue comefrom what wetcan'distinguis- asaw eliceside dolikehe t t tucine owe, wchooked very milar. >> duchaine: may you don't even seefehat there's any difference. >> sta: i see sothing dierent in the lower lip. es are a ltle different.>> duchain tn, if i sh

onhe left there. looked perfectly normal. and then... >> stahlhloh. >p d dhain here'e one you w w the right, you saw upside-dowow >> stahl: oh, my goodnes tht eyes a m mth in thphoto onhe rig had beeeeturned upside-down. >>uchae: a nowthe ceoks re >>tahlwow. uchaut.. s: up-d-d-d-. >> dinpspsdo, itre hard d %s tt. >>ansher you look a ce upside-, y babaat@cogning i ifou loooo ad a objf or a sc y c c recognizizit fine upside-down. >> stahl: so wdid that tell you? >> kanwisher: it tellsou that thers soinvery speal about face recogniti. it works in a very d dferent way frfr recognition of everything else >> stahl:`and d at g g kanwisher wondering ififhere might be a part othe e ain n sponsible ju fororeeinfaces. she started putting people with normal face recognition into m.r.i. scanners and watchingwhat happe ieiaithey looat dfent i iges. this ys what s s seeinin>> kansherthth is what shs seng >> stas ng fes.>>wishshtl no s sg ct bebee we wt to know w t just what parts of the ain arar

what parts areore active when you see faces@th when n u see obobct >> stahl: kanwisher discovered that there was indeed a place e the ain nhat becomes v vy active ehen we look at faces. >> kanwisher: invery sub, om, , ere was thisice, big response tre.& was very citing. >>taanit wign e samerea erlleestur habebe it's called the fusiform face area. oout tgs missgeoplwiiffa bldneses le jahodes? kanwisr t him in t snnerer to finou wier: i reallyid n n expect to see a fusiform face ar. >> s shl: so you thought the be nothing there-- like as if instead of having a bullet go through it, he was just born without it>> kwier: at's'sightthig. >> stad?d? kshand lood at e ta and face ar wasbuaul. 'stboo >> stahl: she e ned jo, ben, and meg, as well, and theyad sisirm face areas, t. so what does that say to you? kshititells uth the obm is n n tth doesext.

e, ts the fu scnc it's fununo be told you'u' jus completely andotally wro, becausnow you have to go back and,d,ou kw, thi a tad e thg shd r seers s e thng out is a phenomenon as mystifying as face bndness its polar opposite, super- recognizers like jennifer jarett, who say th recognize alst e ery fe they have ever seen. waiters? >> j jnifer jaretts. >> stahl: salespeoe? >> jarett: y,syes. stahl: oh, likeof cou art: yesabtelyyes. i'lle indodohe strt andni'llllee s seone, an think, ", , , il."d i ireer, h ay, th person workat... as atever store, anat's where i... or ey used totoork k that sto ten mears ago." and then, i rember. >> s shl: ten years ago? >> jarett: yes, yes. >> stahl: so, they're... it doesn't matterow far back you saw these people?? >> j jett: yes, yes. >> stahl: so, as l lg as you look at a person and take noce, they're in there. >> jarart: i... i don'evevev

>> sta: only a handful off perecocoizererervr bn discoved so far, and d dhained his coloea had to me witwhe ney tes them. >>e:here areee with. >> s shl: i amamitit callethe "before they were famous test,","ecause recognize faces as they change through time. >uchaine:oes th help atat all? >> shl: you sure i know that peon? nuchaine: that's dick cheney. >> shl: my.thththchch? olmeopight waschard gere, d thbottom, nanay pepesi. ose opopave chan dramical. hter ) he egae hint witis one-- he n an tor. d i'm supppped to know thi actor? clearly, i am nosuper- regnizer. >> duchaine: that's george clooney. >>tahl: man.n. ananthese per-cogns just knhis? duchae: t sups ar re gd atatecogng t tse s. >> jett: george clooney.

thatas geoe clclne >> jarett: i4ijust looked like george clooney to . princeha., doa. mimil jo. oh, that's kato kaelin. >> stahl: the o.j. simpson trial.w, y y a but tho whad llll umped r th thion she said she only had a guess. >> jart: if i were to guess, i woulsay mike wallace. >> shl: that is mike w wlace. she recognized the late mike wallace as a s-year-old. i don't understand how you do that. i n't fathom i i jar apeople age, i thagg processomeho my ain,n,ust seems verysort of surficl. an you kno as .. one ge arcyo..yocastill coize th. 'stillhe sfao it's just the adult versioio >> stahl: so why is 60 years like a haircut to her, while@ face-blind people n't

a team of scientisls at harvarar s begun scscning the brains of susur-recognizers,s,oo, , see if they might yield any clues. thsciee ofacacac reregniois in its infancnedidiovercat t @ fa e eugugfor one la person we'dike you to meet-- 13ear- old tim mcugh h om boston, o is severely face blind. so, can you describe what it feels like wn someone comes up? u know you're pposed to o ow whwhthey are... >> tim mcdonough: i usuallz just sa you know, "hihinice to see yoy." >tahlhlso, you... you sometimes prend. >cdonough: yeah.. >>tahlhlu ke it. >>cnonou: fake it, yh. o,ouhink inoyoyom? monouou: ah.>>y, sthatctually urom. sha: tim m w wking with thparvamo see if ty n lp himimearn to reregnize his mother's vace.e. >> now, is this one your mom orr not? we could start at t e top. we cldldldeyebro, eyes nosesewe cou en use th cheeks there.

prprprm eeeefaliday bereatat. >> mcdon: is's a li b harr. >> s shl far, it's not. >> mcdcdough: i don'ow.justat nobodtrieto talk to me bauseif ty do, they... >> stata: they want to talk about something you'veone with them or sothing. >> mcdonough: yeah, and i don't know whohohey are. >> stahl: so it must be real ha to makerids. mouzhits,h. kes wle tke iend >> shl: it turns out making friends can be tcky at bh ends of the face recognition spectrum. super-recoizsrcan em lik stalkers. >>arett: i ild s som,yoknowekor ms lalar a par aeowowod say,"oh, d dknowacothe" anani'd say, "yes." and the e her r rson would say, "no." and i'd say, "no, don't yo remember the first week asse youerlktoenh s someonenene hshs and peop wou look me rely s sangely andort of

>> shl: jennifer says she's now learned to take cueu from others, ironicallylyjust as face ind d ople do. >> hodes: i'll play this eyentt ga wre i'l'lwa.i'm t g ealot u,ut iwawa to if@zou lolo.anen"oouk e. oh, lo. oh, hi."." >> sta, you' itg for a cuom esyeah so i'l back a litt bit, whici don't nt t. >> stahl: in any sial siatioio are you always a little anxious? sacks: i'm momo than a little anxious. d i... i iend toeep p mouth closed beforori mama some ful blunder. ofofourse, anothth tactitior stgys s ppmi at erybody. s shlthathat chkclosto uhe doe loyou have tbelll arming if youre gng to o sult them by not remembering them, you st h he to be extremelel charming s sthat people don't hold this stuff against you. >> stahl: do you feel now that you're missing out on soing? >> dubrovsky: oh, yeah.

>> dubrozs: definitely, inotiti a loss. i undersnd someone by an abstractio put th setetf information that, , me,e,eans "mhele" >hl: : t it's not a vpizatioof a fac >> dky: and thee questionon. the thing that i wonder next, you know, is how does it affect even things like love? >>tahl: how dododot? >> 4ubroroky: wheneople lk about ve they sasm "i carr the person with me. i carry their ime with me.e. i don't carry their imageg es that mean experiencit differently?y? ananhowlwould i ever know? i i n't know. odes: s a ngl stuff that h hpe tt yo ssing,onneionsnsoue no maki sta: : l? hodes: ohyeahyeahye >> novotny: at least n n we understata why. >> hodes: yeah, right. >> novotny: and it's therapeutic, but it doesn't fixi it. >>announcer: for a look at how "60 minutes" reports its s$ories, along with interviews th corons an

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