"politics now" with steve sebelius and patrick walker. >> steve: thanks for joining us for this special postdebate edition of steve sebelius. >> patrick: i'm patrick walker. alan stock. annette magnus and fernando romero. s that field narrowed down to six candidates, that began by commenting on a developing topic.

died at the age of 79 today but justice can not wait for the senate to get their act together. they've on obstructionists for a very long time now and he needs to. nominate somebody to hear these cases about to come up in the next six months. >> will be whether or not he will be able to get 60 votes. yes, he can nominate anyone he chooses to nominate. but the fat is will look at this with a very curious eye. we know that the democrats

they changed the way that we nominate appellate judges down to a simple majority. 50 plus 1 and that is something that now is going to come back i think and bite the democrats because they're not going to roll over with 60 votes. >> let me ask this. almost immediately after the death of justice scalia. this president should wait and sight unseen. we're not sure who he's going to nominate. he could nominate a liberal judge who will run into trouble in the senate but shouldn't we wait to find out before we declare this president should not do it. >> he can go ahead and do it, i agree. i would wait because he's not going to get anything through probably a liberal judge. >> are you not prejudgeing what's going on? >> i look at this guy not only the last centimetre years in office.

the light he came from. bill, the guy is a far left-wing social exist will appoint somebody that's a far left winger. he's not going to be conservative. >> you're assuming that you can say he's likely he will do that. >> the two people he appointed registryiously voted left wing on every issue. left wing on every issue. what makes him think he's going to change many. >> they have voted and taken sides, that are very pro the public. they are not as left wing as perhaps you may want to make them no the two judges? >> yes. >> every single one of their votes was all left wing. give me one vote. >> i don't think they're being pro. >> that was even middle or conservative. >> i don't think they're being pro human beings and being pro family and pro wanting to make sure that justice is served for people and they're not you know ruling against people just because they have some

i don't think that is necessarily them being this left wing extremist. the other thing is what i thought miss mcconnell did was callus. as soon as they found out scalia had passed away. he put out a statement, we're not going to pass anybody through. i think why not wait a day and let the family mourn. let us process what just happened and i thought it was the wrong time to do it i. >> there was plenty of arguments of some of these other issues. what's next on the rundown here. >> perhaps it's the deja vu all over again. trump continues his attack on jeb bush on how to that i deal with sois and overall policy in the middle east. >> jeb is so wrong. obviously the war in iraq is a big fat mistake george bush made a mistake. but that one was a beauty.

building a reality tv show, my brother was building a security apparatus to keep us safe. >> two themes really steve coming out of this part of the debate. in one talking about iraq and number two, how does jeb come off looking in this back and forth that is continuing now after nine debates. >> absolutely. the trump -- no, i'm going to let you answer that. what do you think? in first of all who is right on that. i was surprised to see donald trump say, gob lied about iraq and should have been impeached. that shocked me. did it shock any of you? >> it didn't shock me coming from him. >> oh, the guy. >> we notice anybody who takes any opposing side of what he wants, gets attacked. and this was like watching some kids in a playground. arguing about you know was a slam dunk or what?

know there's a person vying for the presidency of this country who has an approach that any time that you oppose him, oppose his views, that he attacks you. >> these guys don't like each other obviously, right? there is legitimate bad blood there no i'm going to agree with fernando. every time tuvrp is attacked he goes after that person with venom. he said something bush said something back. trump started to interrupt bush and it was bush who said, grown-ups teach to calm down while other people are quiet. >> that was cruz. >> adults learn not to interrupt. >> he went after everybody just about on the stage tonight. and the thing that we've all agreed to that is amazing about donald trump more than anything at all is this guy has more teflon than anyone i've seen. i knew bill clinton had testify ron. he could say anything and

and he had teflon but nothing paramedic compared to what donald trump has. >> what do you think? >> i i can't believe i actually agreed with donald trump on something. i agree we never should have been in iraq, and i agree that you know there was no weapons of mass destruction there and i agree gob should have been impeached for all that. i fwrooe with donald trump which is surprising for me. however the exchange between him and jeb or cruz and rub row i think is incredibly juvenile and i feel like they're just dumbing down politics. they're dumbing down our democracy and i don't think it's healthy for the republican aert. i think that kind of debate and that level of debate is just uncalled for. >> but you know two things, one, we're not going to get to this by debateing about weapons of mass destruction again. but saddam hussein wanted us to believe that they were

wanted iran to believe it. that were win of biggest

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>> welcome back, immigration has been front and centre today. john kasich came out as the more mod are the of the group. did anyone make any ground today? >> let's start there. of all the plans john kasich, very moderate but george -- i'm sorry, jeb bush also had a fairly moderate plan. so who came out on top? er if than do? >> i thought rubio came out on top but kasich is all supportive and governor of ohio, he is daning the right way. he's proven he wants to do it and best of all, he's proven that it can be done. obviously trump and ted cruz are very negative in their aspect and they're not being sensitized by anybody.

at all to the issue of just throwing out 12 million people from this country without taking regard anything else. contributions, et cetera that the immigrants have given to this country. >> just a quick follow-up before we get to another panelist, you mentioned rubio you thought he did the best. seems to me when he talks about his plan, that he is sim pa netic to the people who are already here and finding a solution to the deal with them. that it doesn't involve deportations. but he tiptoes around it. >> i think he tiptoes because of the abuse the if you will that came from his own republican cohorts. if you stop and think this his contribution to the gang of eight were very valued and good, and he contributed to what's accepted in the past because it did pass. someone said that the bill did not pass. it did pass, unfortunately it only passed. >> but that was his contribution.

>> rubio said clearly that we should not be rewarding people who break the law. he said that very, very clearly tonight. and we all heard him say that. and we should not be rewarding people. are we going to take 11.5 million people and send them out? the chance are probably not. eisenhower had a plan and got rid of hundreds of thousands as a matter of fact millions of illegals back in the early 50s. and worked back then and should we be deporting people who are criminals? yes. should we up the borders? yes. i think rubio came across well, problem with trump not cruz, he says things in a way to attract headlines to make people feel like you know, they've got to react to him. so. >> all right, we've got more coming up. let's find out from papa trick. what's next for us some. >> next we'll talk about the

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> >> announcer: you're watching "politics now." >> most of the candidates laid out their tax plan tonight. >> i'm going to have a tax plan that is pro family because the family is the most important institution in society. >> rubio hit on the family angle and there were differences including ted cruz pitching what is close to a flat tax, so the question on this part, who comes out on top and is it donald trump? >> it's a good question. and let's start with you. of all the tax plans, ted cruz, that's 15% kind of surprised me . but what do you think? whose tax plan has the most chance of appealing to the broad middle? >> that's a great question, steve. and i wish i knew the answer to that. when i was listening to these folks tonight, they were all over the place frankly on this particular

and specifically i felt like cruz, he wants to just get rid of all the taxes. let's just get rid of all the taxes. but there's never an answer. how are we going to pay for real things then? how are we going to to have a great society? how are we going to have great citiess if we just do away with all the taxs? i mean that sounds like utopia but it's just not going to work. so i want to see real specifics because they will ask them these questions about taxes is say the typical republican talking point and then they stop talking. and the moderator tried to get more out of them and he was pushing them and it wasn't coming out. so i want more. >> alan seals to have found his tax plan. >> well you know, i said the great society. that's what linden johnson started. that's when we went to hell in a handbasket. that's when we started to say to people, if there's no man in a house we will pay you more for each child you have as long as the man stays out of the house. i'm not so sure about all

government doing it for us. flat tax, yes, getting rid of waste and all the other problems, absolutely right. i also was a little bit amazed that trump was talking about how he was going to you know fix the economy and bring businesses back. but when he was asked specifically about how he was going to pay for the stuff he never quite had the answer. but again, he's got teflon. so he comes off looking good. >> he never answers any question properly. and with any deep support. but i kind of appreciated what rubio was saying that it's got to be friendly to the family. and of course if the family has money in their pocket, they're going to spend. and spending obviously the economy is going to grow. and it's unfortunate where we have these debates where they're giving with one minute to answer a question. >> i agree. >> but i would lii to know, go deeper into that.

however what he did say was very interesting. >> i have a problem with marco rub yi's plan, actually. i have a problem with the way he started this whole thing. this pro family tax plan. what about people who don't have children. what about people who can't have children. what can does the family mean to him. it may seem. >> he never defined family. >> on twitter he can defined it all night long. >> that's the one thing that he retweeted. >> can't talk over each other. we're not a republican debate crowd. >> we is still like each other. >> let's find out what we have coming up, patrick? >> patrick: we've been holding this part out but we've had a lot of analysis. we'll talk about who won the

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> >> announcer: you're watching "politics now." >> patrick: welcome back, the big question of the night so far, steve, did rubio have a comeback

>> steve: that is a great question who won? start with fernando. >> i think rubio won and he can did come back from that slap in the face he got last week. i think there's some insecurity on immigration, on above at thety, on taxes, we're all right on. and i feel if we did have more time with him he can go more in depth and give a good feeling but what i heard from him i liked him and i liked him on all those issues. >> the format was kind of constraining. who won this one some. >> if there's going to be an honest headline will be rubio redeemed. he came across looking very good. i think the bush didn't look too bad tonight and i think can kasich is taking the kristi votes and owning them, and i think he's going to begin to grow more. he has in the numbers anyway. he's second in the south carolina right now. so, trump somehow is going

but the others are starting you see movement coming on. >> what do you think? >> kasich was the least offenceive, i think. i think marco rubio while he was in his robot self tonight, he proved that he was incredibly insensitive on immigration as a latino. and ted cruz the same thing. ted cruz and marco rubio as latinos don't have more compassion for the people dealing with the immigration system in this country. >> no one mentioned dr. carson. if he doesn't do well in south carolina and maybe here in nevada, he's going to have to drop out, right some. >> he said i'm not a politician. i never aspired to be one and he's right. and he's a nice guy and maybe one of these guys will be elected god willing this coming november, maybe he will become the next surgeon of the united states. he probably would be a great one.

i've talked to him, but he's not a presidential candidate. i'm sorry, that's how it is. >> steve: so we have the republican caucus coming up on the 23rd. democrats real quickly who is going to win the democratic caucus. who is going to win the republican caucus? fernando no don't be surprised if bernie sanders wins the democrat. >> i love it. >> he's a good man. i think rubio will jump. >> last poll i saw today is that hillary and bernie are tied. it was 45-45. so, i'm agreeing. i think bernie may end up taking it. which will be embarrassing for hillary. on the republican side i think it's going to be somewhere it's going to be between rubio kasich and trump. i know i'm hedging it. >> definitely. >> that's what i see. one of those three because

but rubio is rising and kasich has his own constituency. >> i think it's going to be hillary in nevada. i think she's had a very strong can campaign. i think bernie is rising and it will be a close one again. and i think donald trump is going to win. >> wow. trumpmentum. >> even though it seemslike jeb bush. governor bush i'm going to say. seems like he landed a blow on trump and trump with just went in to orbit. >> here's the thing with jeb and we talked about this on an earlier show, and i talked about o'malley getting out of the race. i talked about other people getting out of the race. i think jeb is on the can cusp and i think he's about to leave the race. if he doesn't do well. >> if he does get out i think his votes go to kasich. >> and if he keeps defending

he's definitely going to be out. >> steve: i want to thank you guys for lening your perspectives. definitely. back over to our master of ceremonies patrick walker. >> patrick: all right, steve and again also i want to thank the panel and thank you for watching "politics now." we will be whereining up our political coverage all week long. live next week on a special saturday night edition of "politics now." find out the complete schedule. we have a lot going on can and watch a separate weekend. we are your local election head wars quarters. thanks for choosing us.

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