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captioning sponsored by cbs >> dickerson: today on "face the nation," the presidential debates are over and the sprint to the campaign finish line is on. with just 16 days until election day, hillary clinton looks to expand into red states in an effort to run up the score against donald trump and elect more democrats to congress. while donald trump continues to election will be stolen from them. >> the system is rigged. you know it. i know it. the politicians know it. >> dickerson: but it is? we'll see what the head of the republican party reince priebus thinks about that and get the views of some nevada voters. >> i don't think it's rigged. i think it can be improved on. >> you're going to say it's rigged? like as an american, that's offensive. >> dickerson: we'll have plenty of analysis and some surprising new battleground tracker results from texas and florida.
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take back the city of mosul from isis, our holly williams reports from the from the line. that's all ahead on "face the nation." good morning and welcome to "face the nation." i'm john dickerson. with just over two weeks to go until election day an early voting already happening in many states, hillary clinton leads in the polls, leaving some republicans to worry about a rout and possible finger-pointing is already under way inside the g.o.p. meanwhile, donald trump continues to say he'll only lose joining us now is the chairman of the republican party, reince priebus. welcome,?r mr. chairman. >> good morning, john. >> dickerson: is donald trump going to win? >> yeah, he is going to win, and he's going to win because i think people in this country have had enough and he's the change agent. when it comes down to risk in this country, hillary's been tested and she's failed. she's the risky candidate. you look at russia, the uranium deal giving them control 206% of the world's uranium. her pocketing hundreds of
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and the mess she left there. what i'm saying is she was tried and tested. she failed. she's too risky for this country. that's why she's going the lose. >> dickerson: 100% behind donald trump? >> he's the nominee of our party. of course we're behind donald trump. this is ridiculous, as if we wouldn't be behind the nominee of the party. of course we are. >> dickerson: do you think the election is in danger of being stolen? >> new york i don't, but what i think the media is missing here is that to ask a candid weeks before the election if they lose are they going to concede, asking for a concession speech, no one does that, and i think if it's a close election, look, if you lose by 200 votes in florida, are you going to concede on election night if you're at 260... >> dickerson: but that's not what he's saying. he's not saying if it's a squeaker. he's saying it's been stolen at this moment and the only way i'll lose is if it's stolen. that's really different. >> that's not quite what he's saying.
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all options and if there is grounds for a recount, i will exercise my options. he is not... he is not willing to not concede if he loses and there's no fraud. >> dickerson: but his mouth is in a different place than where you think his head is. he says if he loses pennsylvania, a state republicans haven't won since '88, he says it will only be because it was stolen for him. >> that's not where we're at. thing. losing by 100,000 is another thing. >> dickerson: it's not just the media. south carolina governor nikki haley said, "this election is not rigged and it's irresponsible to say it is. " is nikki haley right or is donald trump right? >> i think they're two people saying two different things. i think if you're donald trump an you see the barrage and the media implosion on every single thing this guy does, no matter what it is, he eats corn flakes
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another cable show on msnbc is talking about it 24 hours a day. if you look at hillary clinton, what she's got away with on this e-mail scandal, when you have general cartwright going to prison for doing one-tenth of her... >> dickerson: i understand that. >> but i'm trying to put you in the mind of a person running for president and sees this unbelievable world around him, and then you this hear about fraud at the ballot box, and you say, you know what, i'm going to reserve all options. >> dickerson: but reserving options is different than saying let's just say it. the problem is the difference between what you say and and what he says. >> but i know where he's at on this. >> dickerson: would you advise him as the public party chair is make this distinction clear because you're going to incite your followers to think this election is being stolen from them and that's dangerous. >> and he did do that. he did do that. >> dickerson: he's still talking about an election being stolen. >> dickerson: i don't mean his response to the debate.
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election is rigged, he said it last night. >> he's trying to also tell his folks to watch out for this fraud that might occur. but look, it's not... i'm telling you, we know that this is not millions of people, but what we're talking about are things like if you look at the milwaukee police report that came out about six years ago, the milwaukee police department put out a 70-page report on election fraud in milwaukee. this wasn't the republican party. i'm saying this is real. so let's no.. >> let's not go down this road where we're acting like it's a figment of people's imagination. >> dickerson: but the police report found fraud but not enough to steal to will efntle it wasn't even close. so that's... >> if you lose by 100 votes that might. >> dickerson: let's move on mr. chairman, because i want to ask you about last time you were here, you said republicans who didn't support donald trump, who wanted to run for president in the future, might face some punishment from the party. is that still the case?
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you're going to look at after the election, but we expect to win. i think unifying the party is something that's always the job of a chairman of party and all the people involved in our party. that's what we expect to do. so we'll leave that for another time. >> christa: but they're not under... they shouldn't worry? >> the point is i think given the choice between someone who has been tried and tested and fail and someone that can't be trusted like hillary clinton and someone that wants to change up the system, i think all republicans should support the nominee of our party. >> dickerson: what if they don't? somebody like paul ryan, is paul ryan a good republican? >> of course. he's a great republican. he's one of the brightest stars in our party. he's a great friend, smart, one of the most pure-hearted people i've ever known in politics. so, yes, he's a great republican. i think all... when you have two parties, this isn't italy. we don't have 12 different parties where everyone can fit neatly into a box. so we have to understand that. our job is to bring as many
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and make the case. that's what we're doing every day. >> dickerson: i want the ask you about bringing people into the room. that's the point of the autopsy you had written after the 2012 election, it said, looj at the 2012 race. the republican party needs to stop talking to itself. we have become experts in how to provide ideological and reinforcement to like-minded people. a lot of people would say that describes exactly the kind of race donald trump is running, totally opposite of what was should do in that autopsy. what do you say to that? >> i say you're not giving him any credit for going into cleveland and detroit countless time, talking about school choice, meeting with black and hispanic pastors, talking about the fact that the democrats take advantage of these communities every four years, tell them what they want to hear, don't follow up with loans for small business owners who has been to be black or hispanic. they don't follow up on education reform. there's no follow-up on any of these promises. so if you look at what the
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well, we've put our money where our mouth is. we've put money in black and hispanic and asian engagement like no party in modern history has ever done. but let me tell you something about the report, it isn't just a diagnosis of the republican national committee. the report is a message to the entire party as a whole and i stand behind it 100%. >> dickerson: even though donald trump's numbers with african american, latinos and women are so bad? >> it's not effort that not been put in. i mean, first of all, i contend he's going to do better in black communities than we have done four and eight years ago, but what this prescription is is a prescription for the long term, not the short term, and being active 24/7 in black and hispanic communities, talking about the issues that matter in those communities is what our parties are all about. we are the party of equality,
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>> dickerson: chairman, reince priebus, thanks. >> you bet. >> dickerson: the morning after the last presidential debate we sat down with some voters in the battleground state of nevada in a las vegas restaurant to get the views of some of the people who will actually shape this election. donald trump was asked in the debate if he would abide by the outcome of the election, was anybody struck by his reaction and what he said? >> not as much as they made a big deal. not as much as they made a big deal out of it. if i was in his position and there was any, about the validity of the votes, i believe the voting system is corrupt. i believe politicians are corrupt. i believe the congress is corrupt. >> dickerson: quickly, you said that you expected trump to say that? >> i thought he'd be not evasive, but being cute on it a little bit, he will accept it, mr. trump is a very successful businessman. >> dickerson: how do you know that he'll accept it? >> just by the way he handles things. he wanted to leave it open. he wanted to create a little discussion on it. >> i don't think he's interested
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>> dickerson: what's he interested in? >> he's going to start a media empire after this with all the people he's met and surrounded himself with. >> dickerson: you believe that too? >> yes. >> dickerson: who here thinks donald trump is not on the level, that he's in it for some other thing, not actually win the presidency in. >> i don't agree. >> i think he's in to win. >> he's not going to quit. i think he'll fight to win, but he's already planning next phase, trump tv at some point. >> dickerson: how many of you here feel like the election system is rigged? >> i don't think it's rigged. >> as far as donald trump saying that it's rigged, how are you running for a country but don't have faith in it? you know, how are you going to call the system rigged, the system that you're running for, that you want to be in command of, and you're going to say it's rigged, like as an american, that's offensive. >> dickerson: let me ask you, you're undecided. when do you think you'll make up your mind? what's your process going to be? >> what i'm going to have to
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be the steward of the millennials. i'll hopefully being living here in america for another 50, 60 years. i want a president that's going to put my generation at the forefront and maximize our success here in this country. and so i think ultimately we're looking at these two candidates and their integrity. >> dickerson: john, what do you think about that question of integrity? >> they both have pretty serious issues, and so at some point you have to say, you have to understand, donald trump has a does hillary clinton. for t next question i ask as an economist, who is going to be best for the economy. assuming that they've both got their challenges, who is going to screw up the economy less or not do anything to harm the recovery? i think what's happened, john, and you see this in las vegas, we're one of the poster children of the great recession. >> absolutely. >> we have come to believe we're immune to the laws of economics and gravity and we acted that way for many, many years.
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because we didn't have a diverse economy. now that the whole world i guess went through this global recession, we're recovering out of it, it's slow. >> dickerson: corey, let me ask you on this question of character and integrity, you're a supporter of hillary?i clinto, how do you think through some of the challenges and some of the views people have about hillary clinton and her lack of trustworthiness? >> how do you make sense of all that? >> if i were patient going into have life-changing surgery, do i want the doctor who is well seasoned and has done this surgery many, man or do i want to take my chance on the rookie who is just coming out of, you?? know, school and doesn't have the knowledge or the experience in doing something like that. and, you know, the whole e-mail thing, until she's proven guilty, she's innocent. that's what our country operates off of. >> dickerson: but what she hast( admitted is she did have her own private server. >> right. >> dickerson: for you is that something that, you know, she
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>> i think that she by not coming up front, it did put some uneasiness in individual, but i think there are far more greater things to worry about in the world than somebody's yahoo account. >> dickerson: let me ask you this question, barbara. corey made the case that if you're going to get surgery, good to have a doctor who knows the ins and outs of surgery, not somebody who is new to that's a way of looking at the presidency that makes it pretty good for hillary clinton. >> but you have new doctors in training, and... >> try something different and something groundbreaking and revolutionary. that happened to my husband. he had an ankle replacement. we saw nine doctors before we could find one, and many of them were experienced doctors, they flat out refused to do it. we found a doctor who tried something new and tried something different and my
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>> that's amazing. >> let me jump in. i think... if you don't mind, john. >> dickerson: sure. >> the problem with donald trump is the way he answers questions like this, it appears he graduated from the trump medical school, okay, because he's going to do the best surgery, it's going to be great, it's going to be the greatest surgery ever, but there's no details. it's always these bombastic statements of great and wonderful, we're going to win so much, we're going to get tired of winning and that's unbelievable, but that says nothing, that tells you nothing. >> dickerson: barbara, what about you? what's a big issue for you? >> morality and values. based on what the country was based on. i think that the laws that obama have passed, the way the countries that i call it downturning. some other people are proud of it and happy for it. i personally am against it.
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all this stuff, i am against. >> dickerson: when donald trump says make america great again, is that what you hear, that it's going to go back before the time you're now describing? >> that's part of it. >> dickerson: kimberly, the day after the election hillary clinton is president, what's your quick reaction? >> not surprised. i have hope. >> dickerson: caitlin? >> i pray that her policy translates to keep american values at the forefront. i do not respect her. >> oh, no. we need prayer. the country a >> i say bless her in all that she does. >> i think she'll be able to negotiate with the congress to get things done with ryan and o'connell. >> dickerson: it's the day after the election. donald trump has won. what's your reaction? >> i'll be pleased. wish him well. keep a cool hand and do your
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to surround himself with and keep himself in check and i have hope. >> dickerson: john? >> i'll pray that jon stewart comes back to comedy central and it will be great when he comes back. >> dickerson: corine? >> i'm moving off the grid. no. i'm open to change, and we'll see what happens. >> dickerson: and we'll be back with a minute from some surprising results from our cbs news battleground tracker, including whether florida g.o.p. voters who picked donald trump in the primary have any regrets.
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[burke] hot dog. seen it. covered it. we know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two. ? we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ? >> dickerson: and we're back with our battleground tracker poll. in florida the race is still very tight. hillary clinton is up three points over donald trump. that's 46% to 43%. in texas, those numbers are reversed. trump is up 46% and clinton is at 43%. cbs news election director anthony salvanto joins us now. anthony, we'll get to florida, but why were you in texas this
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republican states in the country, but it tells a broader story, and this is that donald trump is underperforming with a lot of key groups republicans usually this well with, white men, white college educated women. i would caution. i don't think that hillary clinton is in a position to outright win texas at this point, but it does tell that story of why things are generally closer overall. >> dickerson: and she's up with hispanics there, too, which helps. florida, now, what's the situation on the ground there? >> well, hillary clinton is up. she's up three. she's still low on a number of keye the economy, do you understand regular people, but she does have one thing donald trump does not, and that is near complete support from her own party. she's got 9 in 10 democrats. trump has 8 in 10 republicans. that's something that's plagued him all along through this campaign and it's just enough to cost him. >> dickerson: debates are about ginning up support in your own group, and hillary clinton seems to have done that coming out of her three debates. is there anything donald trump can do in the last 18 days in florida to help themself? >> well, voters say they think donald trump was talking about
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things they want to hear. and one of those things they say is change. change washington, shake up the political system. so that's one rhetorical place that he can go. >> dickerson: one other thing you did, anthony, in florida, is you went back to republican primary voters who picked trump big over marco rubio, the sitting senator in the state, is there any remorse among those voters in republicans in florida? >> not really. if they had a time machine and could go back to the republican primary in the spring, they would still vote for what i think that tells you is even though they say trump has some flaws as a candidate at this point, the republican base is still closer to and donald trumper is still closer to the republican base than anything their leadership has to offer. >> dickerson: that's why he's been trying to talk about derange the swamp in washington, but he's really been talking about fraud. what are republican voters in florida saying about fraud? >> well, republicans overwhelmingly think it exist, that it is widespread, but here's the kicker, john. they think donald trump would
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it not for fraud. and that's a broader loss of faith in institutions and some what exceptionally american institution that we see?h=5%9 out right now. >> dickerson: they think it's not just that fraud happens but the election will be stolen. you on election night look all over the whole country and you have for various cycles. what's your feeling about this idea of an election being?i stolen? >> well, think about how decentralized this whole election system is. what i see on election night is 3,000 counties, thousands of precincts. and they're all coming in from all across the country. they're counted locally. they're counted by your friends, by your neighbors, by your county officials. you can imagine something on that side and that scope, shenanigans here and there, well, anything is possible, but that is a big and uniquely american system. >> dickerson: you also in your polling went looking for trump voters who might not be in traditional polls for one reason or another. this is an argument the trump people have been making that
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being captured in these polls to show hillary clinton ahead. what did you find? >> a couple things. one, when you look at the early vote coming in already. there are already one million ballots coming in from florida, you see people voting have already voted before. that's evidence against the idea that there's new folks coming into the system. and also the trump voters in our poll say that the people around them also are talking about voting for donald trump. so there doesn't seem to be a lot of hesitancy to talk about the fact that you're for donald trump. >> dickerson: because the theory is that people don't want to tel voting for donald trump, but your argument is if they're telling their friends they're voting for trump, if they're proud in their communities, they won't be shy with the pollster? >> and we have the primaries for the most part where people said they would vote for him, and they did. there's been that consistentt( finding. >> dickerson: all right, anthony salvanto, thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you. >> dickerson: we'll be back in
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this morning. frank, i want to start on this question of voter fraud. donald trump has been talking about it. there was also video released this week from project veritas that showed a democratic strategist talking about busing people. is that why with?i that kind of video footage, is that why republicans come out in such big numbers thinking the election is going to be stolen? >> republicans have felt this ever since rudy giuli 1993. there's always been a concern that particularly in urban america people who shouldn't be voting are and that they're voting more than once. it's toxic. this feeling that the electoral system is rigged, the more that grow, the more impossible it will be after this election to govern. i got to tell you, i've been todaying this now for 25 years, and i've never seen a higher percentage of americans who are
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street. they have no faith in the media, no faith in the institutions that run us, and?( bring people together to work together in -- when all these connections have been frayed? >> dickerson: let me take the time line back a bit before we think about after the election. what about right now? when voters hear the election is going to be stolen and if donald trump lose, what's your sense talking to voters? wh reactions? >> i've been to 26 states now. i'll probably make it to 30 before the election is over, it means there is no coming together. i think it's going to be very challenging for the g.o.p. because you've got some trump voters who are unwilling to vote for a republican for senate or congress as a way to send a message to the establishment, and you have some independents who want to vote republican for the senate and the house but won't because they're too connected to donald trump. with only 17 days to go, i've
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interparty battles going on at a time when the republicans should be focused on the democrats and prosecuting the case against their leadership. >> dickerson: just 40 seconds before a break and we'll have you back, but do you think it's an attempt, a turnout mechanism to say the voting is rigged, it's being stolen from you as a way to bring unity and party that's having its own internal bickering. >> the way to bring unity?r is o talk about change in washington, is to talk about the economy that isn't delivering for hard-working taxpayers, to talk americans they aren't better off, that 53% of americans are living paycheck-to-paycheck, struggling to get by. that's more of a unifying message. >> christa: we'll get back and talk about that change message when we have you on the other side. so everybody stick with us and we'll be back with a moment. who lives here and flies to hong kong, to visit this company that makes smart phones, used by this vice president,
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