captioning made possible by johnson & johnson, where quality products for the american family have been a tradition for generations >> pauley: good morning. i'm jane pauley. this is "sunday morning." cuban dictator fidel castro died friday night as the age of 90. but the task of assessing his legacy has barely begun. we'll be taking stock throughout the morning beginning with a look back at castro the man from martha teichner in our "sunday

he loved nothing better than to poke us in the eye. thanks to him, for more than half a century, cuba, a tiny island, has been the tail wagging the dog where u.s. politics and policy are concerned. ahead the death of fidel castro, the provocateur is gone but for the united remains. >> pauley: back is business as usual, show business, a lady who rocks. lady gaga by name. will be talking to lee cowan. >> she's reinvented herself so many times. ? hold them like they do it in

you're more lady now than gaga. does that make sense? >> sewed. what about tomorrow? >> her latest in carnation. ahead on "sunday morning." >> pauley: a one man fringe movement has been making his mark. so much so that it's caught the eye of faith saily. ben venom makes understated and ocean 'going art quilt i'd be lying. do you picture your quilts like wrapped around something? >> yeah, if hell were to freeze over then maybe they would need a quilt i could provide that. >> quilt, is that rock later on "sunday morning."

questions and answers for casey of a fleck, the tracy smith does the honors. >> you can't talk about the oscars this year without mentioning casey of a fleck. but he doesn't want to hear it. >> making too big a feel is a mistake. >> do you let yourself hear the oscar buzz that's going on now? >> no, i don't. i never listen to it. >> of a fleck. >> pauley: from seth doane we have a postcard from tokyo from the train station to be precise. a glimpse of secret life of american muslims. say our goodbye to florence henderson. first, the headlines for this sunday morning the 27th of november, 2016. cuba is mourning its

castro. flags are flying at half mast as the nation marks nine days of official mourning. we have two reports beginning with havana. >> the usually vibrant neighborhoods of cuba's capital are i would net morning. we brief along the city's historic waterfront last night. while it's usually bustling the crowds were small sore a saturday night. there has been confirmation, fidel castro's remains were set to have been cremated according to his wis wishes. at the university students held a remembrance for their leader. it was quite a different scene in little ha anna where people celebrated the ruthless dictator.

first opportunity to publicly pay their respects starting tomorrow with the largest gathering expect on tuesday as the revolution scare the scene of some of his most fiery and most important speeches. his remains will be held down a route retracing in reverse the victory march he took with the revolutionary army in 1959. his funeral will be held next sunday insanity the cradle of his revolution. in havana. >> in mob doning recommend rating a dick for who has been called a hero and skies nor. his mixed legacy is condemned or celebrated. in russia president vladimir putin a symbol of air, close

his people have lost a close comrade. and in mexico, he promoted respect and dialogue. and his unwaivering support of the knicks' anti-apartheid movement. in madrid, some saw political asylum had a more sobering. >> a reference to his firing squad fa targeted descenters. and more measured, he represented his hope. and pope francis who met with him kept his condolences, sold his brother and raul he was grieving. >> in a statement president obama did not praise castro but

declared now is the time to extend a hand of friendship to the cuban people. but president elect donald trump denounced castro as, quote, a brutal dictator. hillary clinton team hill take part in the vote recount. green party candidate jill stein requested and wisconsin 'election port approved it. early holiday shopping figures, like this one. adobe which tracks online retail transactions reports that people spent a record $5.27 billion online on thanksgiving day and friday. that is more than 17% jump over 2015. from hollywood, news of the passing of ron glass, the character actor perhaps best known for detective ron harris in the long running tv series

reported cause, respiratory failure. now the weather much of the west will be wet. a big storm will blanket the cascades and rockies and snow while soaking the plains with rain. dry across the east. in the week ahead it's going to be tough to escape scattered showers but california southern compost is looking good. >> ahead, fidel castro, a look

>> pauley: fidel castro, dead at the age of 90. we imagine that many of those who have opposed the cuban dictator all their lives barely allow themselves to believe the news is true. after all, he's been a dominating figure on the world can remember. our cover story is reported by martha teichner. >> on cuba's southern coast. the year of jungle fighters the rebels of -- >> at first he charmed us. it's hard to believe now, more

fact. >> fidel castro here our former technician, students, towns people and simple -- >> up in the hills with his rebels, fidel castro looked and sounded like a freedom fighter. a romantic hero, not the bogeyman he became to so many. >> but there was no battle. on new year's day, 1959, cuban dictator, general fulgencio batista, the bloated, corrupt embodiment of cuba's problems fled the country.

one of five children. his family was prosperous and owned a sugar plantation in eastern cuba. educated by the jesuits he became a lawyer. the poverty castro saw around him, the inequality turned him into a revolutionary. >> fidel castro at the age of 32 you now have great deal of power and responsibility. >> a month after taking power interviewed on mr. row castro said exactly what americans want to hear. >> are you concerned about the communist influence in cuba? >> i am not worried because really there is not a threat. >> it's still not clear whether he changed or whether he lied. but when castro began executing

appropriating u.s. property in cuba, it didn't matter. the u.s. response, sanctions. the economic embargo that exists to this day. since the early 1960s, more than a million cubans have left. most landed in miami with nothing but their lives. and the fierce determination to bring fidel castro down one way or another. cuban exiles backed by the cia tried to slip into the bay of pigs and liberate the island. the invasion was a disastrous and embarrassing failure. with a jubilant castro playing david to the u.s. goliath, a role he fine tuned for the rest of his life, with help from the soviet union.

the following year in 1962, u.s. spy planes spotted the russians installing nuclear missiles in cuba. >> russian manned ballistic missiles. >> our cold war. udly cuba seemed railroad is, very important. >> i have directed the armed forces to prepare for the eventuality. >> castro did not blink. appealed to him to play this role. but he would missiles that could threaten the great imperial that he could do this. >> jay taylor represented u.s. interests in cuba in the 1980s. >> the world teetered on the edge. of a america war. we're talking about the world, millions. >> shall be the polyof this nation in regard to any nuclear

by the oaf yet union. requiring a full response. >> for a couple of terrifying weeks, president i don't know f. kennedy and soviet leader nikita played chicken until kru,hcner backed down and the missiles were removed. but that wasn't the end of soviet revolvement in cuba. the russians pumped something like $5 billion a year into the cuban economy. propping it up while the united states kept tightening the screws, toughening the sanction, that one day casio would fall. with the ica repeatedly tried to kill him. but till he hung on, jailing dissidents, neutralizing

speaking for hours on end before vast crowds bussed in to hear him. which brings us to 1980. the mariel boat lift that year was a huge repudiation of castro's claim that cubans were happy and content. told they were free to go, 125,000 did, risking their lives, piling on to small boats and makeshift rafts for mile crossing to florida. >> it did hurt his image but in the end, the fact that the united states then had to stop this flow having said we would not turn our backs on them. suddenly we did, we said, turn them back and top the boats. that castro then, i think felt that he had emerged from from that. >> especially when it became clear that 10-15 thousand of the

criminals, turned loose from prisons and asylums. if life in cuba was bad then, it got worse when the oaf yet union collapsed in 1991. suddenly all that oaf yet money was gone. along with the oil cuba received in exchange for sugar. cubans were literally starving. anti-castro interests in the united states thought the end was in sight. crafty survivor, did something startling to prop up the cuban economy. he legalized the u.s. dollar. which meant that if your relatives in miami sent you money, you could afford to eat. today, those payments bring in $3 billion a year. castro also invited foreign investment, suddenly cuba looked

you name the country, canada, france, spain, mexico, the netherlands, israel. everybody but the united states was there building massive resort hotels and condos for the two million tourists who now visit cuba every year. in 1998 when fidel castro welcomed pope john paul ii and let the pictures do thelk the world saw cuba surviving in spite of the u.s. trade embargo. it was political theater on a grand scale. the kind castro loved. remember the custody showdown over elian gonza?lez, the small boy rescued at sea after his mother drowned trying to escape. castro won, the boy was returned to his father in cuba. he milked it in every way to

miami look bad and the cuban community in miami frankly felt right into the trap. >> is a sociology professor at florida international university. >> the revolution was simply claiming a son for his father. >> the revolution does have its supporters who give castro credit for raising the litera and for providing free health care to all. cuba turns out highly skilled doctors, respected throughout latin america. in february 2008, after a long illness, fidel castro officially transferred cuba's presidency to his younger brewer, raul. >> today the united states of america is changing its relationship with the people of

2014 to restoration of diplomatic relations with the united states. it was raul who welcomed president obama to cuba in march of this year. less than a month late every, a frail, faded fidel castro, appeared at a communist party congress. soon i will be 90 years old, he said. in what seemed like a farewell address. stating, everyone's turn comes, but the ideas of cuban communists will remain. he turned 90 on august 13, the day of his last public appearance. but even in death, he remains a bogeyman to some. >> astro will always be remembered as the cuban, latin american revolutionary who stood

won in terms of his health brought him down, not anything that the united states ever did. >> the man the united states tried so hard to topple tormented 11 american presid presidents. and died on his own terms. >> pauley: ahead. the cold facts. when heartburn hits, fight back fast with tums smoothies. it starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue. and neutralizes stomach acid at the source. ? tum -tum -tum -tum ?

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>> pauley: and now a page from our sundae morning am ma knack, november 2, 1701. 315 years ago today. the birthday of the swedish scientist, anders celsius. celsius is best known for the temperature scale that bears his name. unlike his predecessor, daniel gabriel fahrenheit, whose sc had water freezing at 32 degrees and boiling at 212, anders celsius separated boiling and freezing by exactly 100 degrees. however, for some reason he marked the degrees on his original thermometer upside down with zero as the boiling point and 100 as the freezing point. go figure. the celsius scale was soon flipped right side up with zero

boiling. and generations of american school kids have been figuring out how to convert fahrenheit and celsius and vice versa ever since. today the united states stands alone among the major industrial nations in still using fahrenheit. and based on the apparent degree of resistance across the land to a switch to celsius, it seems unlikely we'll be warming to the idea any time soon. ahead, quilts of heavy metal. >> there's a right way and wrong way to do it.

>> pauley: how will history judge fidel castro. is there good to weigh against the bad. according to the cia's latest fact book cuba's infant mortality rate is 4.5 per 1,000 births. that is lower than the 5.8 reported here in the united states. average life expectant he see is 78.7.

people. more than double the numbers per thousand in our country. weighed against these pluses are the negatives of decades of political oppression. though there's no hard number, political executions by firing squad totaled just over 3100 according to the nonprofit think thank cuba archive. human rights watch reports 6200 arbitrary detentions during the there's that nod of cuban ref few tease to the u.s. to consider. more than 1.1 million cuban immigrants now live in the united states. that's roughly one-tenth of

jane this is not your grandmother's quilt. a music loving artists works on the fringe of the quilting

point. >> i liken it to shooting machine guns when it's at full throttle. >> sit down with ben venom in his studio in san francisco's haight ashbury. >> a right way and wrong way and way that i decided to do it. my way. >> and it doesn't take long realize he isn't quite like other quilters. >> i'll listen to music or watch movies, but ultimately the noise of the machine drowns a the lo out because my head is right in it. pretty much my world is right around here. >> his world is filled with arresting images like these. his quilts sell for thousands of dollars. have been exhibited around the world and have names like aces

>> refers to a motorhead song. ? then i have these all-seeing eyes kind of the third eye keeping watch. then the drops of blood. >> a quilt? >> yes. >> what's a quilt. i bleed. it hurts. your blood is in a quilt or two? >> on one of them, one or two of them yan that's my signature there. >> ben venom's other signature? using everything from donated women's jeans and leather jackets to old rock t-shirts in his quilts. >> this is iron maiden. and this is toxic holocaust. ? here i have bandannas, goat skin. >> can i touch it? >> yeah.

bleached denim right here. t-shirts. waterproof camouflage. >> where did the as it washed jeans come from? >> some are donated. some i'll buy big piece of denim i'll do it myself. i live in haight ashbury with the year of tie-dye but it's the years of the '80s acid watch. >> the self caught artist grew up heavy metal. his life was changed forever when he went to see exhibition of quilts. >> i saw the cheese bang quilt show in 2006 here in san francisco. i was blown away by their work. these quilts women have made. they usary cycled fabrics. >> that show in tired him to take a pair of scissors into his closet to make his f sirs and

quilt. >> that quilt has a t-shirt on it that is band testament. i wore the testament t shirt for probably close to 15 years. i wore it so much it was so threadbare you could see through it. at that point i was like, not too metal to wear out in public now. i cut it up put into it that first quilt that i made in 2008 called "listen to heavy metal while you sleep"? >> are there mistakes? >> i'm not going to point them sometimes i don't know how to -- how this should be folded i just do it, make my own way. but the fact that it's hand made allows for mistakes to come through. >> we don't make mistakes we have happy accidents. >> a happy accident. >> a metaphor for life. >> i grew up watching bob ross on tv, the big afro, the dark studio that he had.

>> happy little tree. >> that's my upbringing. >> some kind of whimsy. do you put humor? >> absolutely. >> totally understand the level of absurd de. it is absurd that i do these quilts that this strong aggressive imagery but it's the end result is like functional piece of fabric, right? it is a little absurd. >> when talk, it sounds like this. ? this band, hazzard's cure, donated shirts for him to quilt with, so he in turn invited them to his art talk. and sewed patches on the jackets of fans while the band played. >> ? this is how we do -- i'd say my art is a

what i call the fringes of society. that refers to like, motorcycle club punk rock, occult, paying on aim. i take those put them together. much like the large hadron collider in bern. we shoot opposites together they hit, new energy is released like a chain reaction happens. i want to live right there, right in that razor's edge. that fine lineer is released. >> pauley: still to come. >> you were working in 8th grade? >> i've been home by 10:00 or -- >> pauley: ben's brother. casey of a fleck. >> here we go. >> later, lady gaga on life, fame and music.

>> pauley: casey of a fleck has made a name for himself in

one of this year's candidates for hollywood's highest honer. this morning, he's sitting down with tracy smith for some questions and answers. >> that boat's too small for this ship. >> for casey of a fleck, 2016 has been quite a pride. he started the year helping to save a sinking ship in "the finest hours." >> every fella here wants to live, only way that happens if >> his latest film is the one keeping oscar dreams afloat. in "manchester by the sea" of a fleck is a tragic lone or. >> his character is tormented by

won't spoil for you here. off screen with a null beard for upcoming role, he's a bit less somber. >> this was originally matt day mob's role? >> he would not say it was his role. >> they are long time friends. and he, yes, casey is ben's younger brother. but at 41, he's not exactly standing in anyone's shadow. >> goat down. >> he was honest cop in "a den of corruption" in this year's crime thriller. >> you got a problem with me? put it on the table. don't pull me aside. >> he's been in all three "oceans 11". >> are you serious?

window. >> he held his own with morgan freeman in "gone, baby, gone" as private investor in real life hometown boston. >> how much of who you are is boston would you say? >> a lot of who i am. this is -- this feels like my home still. i come back as much as possible. >> his parents divorced when he was in grade school the affleck boys would often come home to in >> bend and i took care of ourselves. >> latchkey kids? >> yeah. >> did you guys get into trouble? >> yeah, probably. i'm not talking about it. >> fair enough. he will say that baseball was his life. as a little leaguer, and as a kid, selling hot dogs outside boston's famed fenway park. >> you were working in 8th grade you said? >> it was young. i don't know why my mother let me do that.

i'd get home my 10:00 or 11:00 went to bed. >> working man in 8th grade. another childhood memory. spending time with his father at his job, a celebrated local joint called the cantab lounge. >> your dad bartended. >> it did. >> that was my favorite bar in college. >> are you kidding me? >> i'm not kidding. >> are you kidding? >> i did. >> you're in the wrong career. >> i'm not. >> when he would go to work we were very young have to go sit one of the tables just like endlessly drink ginger ales he was working which was fun. >> he started acting full time out of high school. in 1995 landed his first movie role as troublesome teen in "to

>> did you say something? >> joaquin phoenix was another actor became my best friend. we lived together for awhile. >> also married to joaquin's his ser, summer, they recently split after ten years and two kids. despite his early you can says, affleck decided to go back to school enrolled full time at but after couple of years, hollywood lured him back. >> i'm sitting in a rocking chair chatting with jessie james. >> got his first real taste in 200 opposite brad pitt in the assassination of jessie james. >> do i have to say that movie, you have to say the whole thing. >> i know. pain in the ass why so few

>> what happened there? >> just takes a minute for a movie to catch on it wasn't easy sell. maybe people heard that brad pitt died half way through and this other guy carried it. i'm not sure exactly. >> still it got him noticed. best performance by an actor in supporting role, the nominees are -- casey affleck, in "the assassination of jessie james by the coward" he seemed to be on role until this. he directed 2010? "i'm still here" a spoof documentary, pursued career at rap artist, meant as gag but almost no one laughed. >> people didn't get the joke. >> they didn't. what's more i think it annoyed

were trying to sort of pull the wool over their eyes. >> not only did the film flop. but affleck was named in two civil sexual harassment suits by women who worked on the film. he vehemently denied the charges and both sights were settled out of court. >> where are you going 1234. >> after nearly 20 2/3rds years, affleck says he still wonders about his place in the business and college degree he never finished. >> so i called up columbia university i said, i was sort of hoping that i would -- i would say i spent two years maybe you can give me the degree. this tells you a lot about my -- and i thought this they would like, sure, horseman rear degree. great work you've been doing out there. i finally got a dean on the phone and i explained my situation. he said like, listen, you've been gone over five years. you have to reapply, by the way

i thought, no, dock -- no honorary degree then? i told you -- >> not that it matters to someone who soon may have another date at the oscars. >> what do you think you're going to do? >> it seems casey affleck's time has come again. i came across a "new york times" headline from a few years ago that said casey affleck should be more famous. >> a curse. >> should you be? >> no. i don't think so. i'm pretty happy with how things are right now. i feel like i get to do movies i like to do every now and again. make a living. i don't get bothered on the street. like working, just trying to find a balance, whoever wrote that headline and that article, gimme their name after this i'll reach out to them and explain

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natural pet food. >> pauley: it happened this past week. the loss of america's most beloved blended family mom. actors florence henderson died thursday night of heart failure in los angeles. born the tenth of ten children in small down indiana, henderson studied drama in new york. where she landed the lead role in the touring company of "oklahoma."

>> other roles and stint on the "today" show with dave garroway followed in due course. >> here's the story of a lovely lady ? >> her debut on "the bread bunch." in 1969 that made her a huge star. >> it's like your father and i always say find out what you do best then do your best with it. >> for five seasons henderson played carol brady. >> alice the washington machine -- >> dispensing common sense wisdom, humor and lover to her combined brood of six children. >> elbow toward left field and your right elbow in. >> hi, honey. >> popular throw carol brady wasser image of perfection did raise the hackles of some women as henderson recalled in an interview. >> lot of women say to me, i really hated you.

their mother. and i said, but you like me now, don't you? yeah. >> florence henderson was 82. >> pauley: coming up,

>> pauley: alth t years of a, the station master at the main strain station already seems to be running his own kind of marathon. every day. seth doane has sent us a postcard from japan. >> it's home to japan's super sleek shinkansen. or but let train it's a stop for nearly two million passengers riding 3700 trains every weekday.

the center of the universe, clad in white, is the station master. like his trains, takashi etoh, keeps a tight schedule. we raced around trying to keep up with him. it's vital to check on things with my own eyes, he said. let's make it nice and tidy he instructed this cleaner. he told another worker, don't catch cold. you seem to love your job. i do, he adding after my wife but i've been with trains longer. does your wife ever get jealous? no, he said, we have a saying in japan, it's good to have a husband whose healthy and absent. this station really is his second family. his employees call him oyakata, jap fees for parent. at the start of his day, we found etoh doing calligraphy painting the character "en"

his favorite word. from cradle to grave we encounter millions of people, he said, the few we share our workplace with are precious. and, get this, he bows whenever he enters or exits the station. it mentally prepares you for customers, etoh told us, shows them appreciation. we watched as he saluted trains. stopped for a quick picture, and monitored the cleaners who turn minutes flat, no, this video is not sped up. he has almost 500 employees, he says he considers them his kids and one of the most important parts of his day is about to happen. yes. >> happy berth day to you ? >> he serenades each and every employee on their birthday.

said, everyone's birthday is that person's most special day. it is station itself, built in 1914, recently celebrated its 100th birthday. its luck tee to be standing. >> in the 1980s, it came within a hair's breath of being demolished. >> azby brown an architecture and new orleans native lived pinocchio -- tokyo for 30 one side of the station is modern. the other is more traditional. and faces japan's imperial palace. >> it was really a symbol of the japanese empire. it has this grandiose, classical kind of dignified appearance. the other side was really like the back side of the city. it was always a little dustier and just more business like. >> you have the super modern on one side meeting the almost old fashioned on the other.

built, this was the peak of modernism. >> today it boasts a labyrinth of shops, its own hotel and bar, even a signature tokyo station cocktail. it's remarkably clean. to save for some wrappers etoh snapped up. and a little dust he noticed mind a computer. we watched you go around and pick up the trash at one point you went down, you pucked up a piece of trash you showed it to pe trying so set an example he told us, tokyo is the gateway to january japan for the olympics we'll have visitors from 200 countries. we can't speak the same language, but we can show a spanking clean station. >> all right. >> sipping one of those tokyo station cocktails we toasted to the whole idea of the this place. to connection.

>> pauley: next, to be a muslim in america.

>> pauley: more than three million muslims live in america. in recent days we've been hearing about disturbing rise in hate crimes against them. that's why a new documentary series "the secret life of muslims" caught our attention. the series can can seen online at vox and "usa today" network. we asked award winning filmmaker, an occasional contribute tore "sunday morning" to tell us more about it. >> when i was a skinny 11-year-old living in small town, kids through pennies at me because i was jewish. i'll never forget how that made me feel. it got me thinking about what it must be like to be muslim in america right now.

faith to tell me their stories. here's one of them. >> mark stroman was in a shooting rampage to kill as many muslims as possible. he killed a man from pakistan. he shot and killed a man from india. and on september 21st, 2001 he shot me in the face. as a child, my impression about usa was it's a great country, beautiful country. a remember watching western movies. the good, bad and the ugly. it was a dream that one day shy lift the wild, wild west see all those things. after graduating from military school in bangladesh, i went to dallas and loved it. we worked hard. like a month i was working in a gas station. give me an opportunity to learn

i moved to dallas in may 001. three months before the 9/11 terrorist attacks. ten days after 9/11 i was behind the counter. a customer walked in. he was holding a double-barreled shotgun pointing at my face. i said, here's all the money. please do not shoot me. he mumbled a question. where are you from? i was confused i said, excuse me? as soon as i said excuse me he pulled the trigger. bees stinging my face. and then i heard the explosion. frantically i placed both palms on my head. thinking i had to keep my brain from spilling out. i felt that my time was up. images of my mother, my father, my siblings and my fiance appeared one after another one. he was begging god, do not take me today.

on shooting spree. a white supremacist wanted revenge shot three clerks he thought were muslims. everybody was saying -- two of his victims died. stroman was convicted of murder ensensed to death. he went to haaj in nine with my mother. during pilgrimage she was rubbing on my face she was crying, i heard telling god that whatever my son wants to do with this life, help him. in my faith, islam, it says that saving a life is like saving the entire mankind. mark stroman committed a heinous crime there's no doubt. but all the good things i was taught inspired me, go do the right thing. >> mark stroman has been in prison for nearly ten years.

champion to fighting to save his life. >> bhuiyan will be partially blind for the rest of his life. he wasn't interested in eye for an eye. >> i went to the u.s. supreme court asking for clemency for mark stroman. went to the u.s. federal court, u.s. state court of texas. >> this man to forgive me which i've done unforgivable for him to come forward. >> he wrote a long he said that, my step father taught me some lessons that i should have never earn learned. i have unlearned some of them, still unlearning some of them. i don't know who your parents were. but it is on video just they are wonderful people to lead you to act this way. to forgive someone who is unforgivable. on the day he was executed, he put my name on the list of people that he would like to talk. as soon as he came on the phone

that i never hated you. i forgive you. and he said, rais, i love you, bro. the same person, ten years back his heart was filled with hate and ignorance. but when he came to know me, he saw me as a human being. he was able to tell me that he loved me and he called me brother. today, i am the founder and president of nonprofit called, world without hate. transformation of power of mercy and forgiveness. based on the hope that we can build a better world, a world without violence, a world without victims and world without hate. >> pauley: still to come, the

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is another. this morning she's talking to lee cowan for the record. >> i used to come here probably four times a week to john's memorial. >> four times a week? >> yeah, i was so inspired. >> on a warm fall day in new york's central park, lady gaga came to pay her respects to john lennon. >> ? strawberry fields forever night. >> enyou insuranced visit. yet it became an event. everything around lady gaga becomes an event. by gaga standards it was tame. >> ? love is all you need. >> seems like you're more lady now than gaga, if that makes sense? >> really? >> you know what i mean? >> today. what about tomorrow? >> there was a time when the one thing you could count on from the theatrical pop diva was

>> ? i want to hold 'em ? >> she put meat dress in the fashion dictionary. her six grammys are of prove of that just part of the package. >> here we go. >> but her latest solo album, her fifth called "joanne" is a toned down diva. ? >> i can't wait to smoke them all ? whole pack like marlboro ? >> people see me with less make up and what i was doing. >> you've evolved into something. >> it's less now. but i don't know, i don't know that you can put a label on growth, ya know? i'm just me. i'm just growing up. i'm 30. what i want to do now. >> she debuted the songs called

plenty of dance pop. the album is not as she puts it one big party. >> there's a lot of crying. lot of crying, lot of pain. a lot of learning about myself. ? take my hand ? stay joan joanne ? >> the title track "joanne" written with producer mark ronson is about her father's sister, joanne germanotta who died at lupus a gaga was born. her middle name is joanne, also the name of her parents italian restaurant on new york's upper west side where we met. >> playing the music for my father for the first time was very powerful. and my grandma, too. >> how did they react? >> it was interesting. my father was very, very emotional. my grandmother was, too, but she held my hand and she said, i hope, my dear, that you won't be

putting this music into the world. what i think she meant by madeline an old world she didn't want me to have an obsession with the death of my aunt. >> ? and if you say something that you might even mean night. >> she called "joanne" her most honest record yet. including a song called million reasons. about the heartache of relationships. >> i bow down to pray ? >> year. after five years together. >> i think women love very hard. we love men. we just love with everything we have. and 134 times, i don't know that that love is met with the type of dignity that we wish it would be met with. you know, we're not trying to make you less of a man. we just want to you love us as deeply and as wholesomely and as fully as we love you.

you're going ? >> it all makes for introspective sound. one some critics thought might turn her fans off. in said "joanne" has scored gaga her fourth number one album. >> i think it is hard for them at times to, you know, change from album to album because is i go through quite a transformation. that's how i am as an artist. you have to let go of the last era of music. >> when you were first flying dress. >> i have to laugh. >> this time it's dive bars how you're releasing it. >> ? i can't wait to get you shook up faster ] >> it's wonderful and humbling about being in dive bar where i started. being able to sing this music. up close and personal to the

it. it reminds me of that if this were all to go away tomorrow, all the big success, that i would still be very happy going from bar to bar, playing music for people. >> would you really? >> yes. the reason that i'm here at all is because of my relationship with my family and their encouragement of me to be a musician. and to work hard. so as long as i stay there in that space, i can do anything. that's mu truth. >> ? roh, roh ? >> staying in that space wasn't always easy. >> ? want your bad romance. i want your horror." >> gaga had trouble washing off the per nona she created even for her own parents. >> i used to come home and think my mom used to watch me have real hard time washing it off.

the make up on and kept the outfits on. it was always trying -- i never wanted to let my fans down. i wanted them to see me in my art form. ? baby, i was born this way ] >> only place lady gaga could be stephanie germanotta was behind the closed doors of her own only. >> i'm very acutely aware that once i cross that property line i'm not free any more. as soon as i go out into the world, i belong, in a way, to everyone else. it's legal to follow me. legal to stalk me at the beach. i can't call the police or ask them to leave. and i took a long hard look at that property line and i said, well, if i can't be free out there, i can be free in here. >> that's what this album is? getting to do whatever you want

>> and not what people are expecting or imposing on you to do? >> excuse me, i'm sorry. >> sit emotional because you feel just that weight on you all the time? the fame is just -- >> i miss -- i miss people. sorry. >> here ya go. >> i miss people. >> just having normal conversations with people? >> yeah, i miss people. i miss, you and meeting a random person and saying hi, having a conversation about life. i love people. >> the one barrier fame didn't put up, was between her and her family. especially her father, joe. >> making your dad happy is -- especially for italian catholic girl, i'll tell you, it feels

world, you can get into all the nightclubs, they will send you the nicest clothes. nothing better than walking into your dad's restaurant and seeing a smile on his face knowing that your mom and dad and your sister are real proud of you. and that you haven't lost touch with who you are. that for me is real success. >> february, she'll take all stages to the biggest stage of all. the super bowl half time show. where she says, it's all in play. >> yeah, i always say you got to play a dive bar like you play an arena and you play an arena like you play a dive bar. >> she knows how 20 play central park, too. >> is this -- oh! you need is love, right? >> thank you. >> that's all you need.

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