chicago, one of carl's favorites, he has three great marinades for steak, chicken and fish. i'm one of those people i any they ever far enough in evaporates to make the marinade, but you can actually do a marinade and just let it sit for 15 minutes. >> 15 minutes to get a little extra flavor which really, really works. here with the flank steak, we like to heat the oil on this one. and then i want to you help me out. >> okay. and cajun is very easy. >> we have some rosemary, thyme and chillies. >> dump it into the oil? >> it's already hot. >> why do you heat the oil? >> then it activates the -- no, she put the roasted garlic in. it activates the herbs and kind of wakes them up. it's really nice. then we mix that around a little bit and then we would let this cool, okay, and when it's cool, then we would just take it, marinade the meat. i like to keep some separate and when we're serving just drizzle

a little bit over that. >> rosemary, jalapenos and thyme. >> a little bit of creole seasoning or cajun seasoning and we can finish with that. before i cook that -- >> the bam. >> exactly. originated the bam. >> whenever we do chicken thighs, some olive oil, lemon juice, kind of make the marinade. we have a bigger one with this, i like to marinade it and then i like to save some more and then after i grill it, dip it right back in there. throw some onions in there, also some oregano and parsley, salt and pepper. >> and how long do you let it then sit with the chicken thighs? >> can you let it sit too long? >> it starts cooking. i like anywhere from an hour to like half -- like six hours is perfect. >> and the garlic goes in there, too. >> can you do it without the garlic or is that a must have?

>> listen, i always say, your kitchen, your rules. >> hey, jimmy. >> the difference here is you have the lemon juice. >> and then we take a little bit over here. we would soak this. once we pull them right off the grill, dip them right back in the marinade again. >> the same with the fish? >> we do white wine and olive oil, basil, oregano and parsley. just kind of mix that up. >> a pinch. >> perfect. and put the herbs in there. >> did you it on tuna. we're out of time. jimmy, good to have you here. come on back. thanks so much. up next, actress marsha is stopping

good morning, everybody. time now is 9:56. checking in again with mike. golden gate bridge was socked in earlier. >> it still is. we all see slowdowns northbound. you can see the bottom of the deck across the side, of course crossing over the marin side, starting to move more slowly than ten minutes ago. south bay very smooblg compared to a half hour ago. slowing through mountain view, that's a typical spot, light through the south bay, bay bridge, the metering lights are still on but no major issue there. you saw that clown pointing out circus vargas. >> people want to put me in the circus and call me a clown because of this cool weather we're having. even san jose, still socked in with some of the low clouds, some of the foothills down

towards campbell and los gatos seeing the sun break through, but this is a sure sign of strong ocean air conditioning. mid 70s, san jose, some 80s today. but we're going to continue with these cool temperatures into the weekend, even some morning mist at time through the middle of the week. >> today is decision day in the landmark case re-igniting debate across the state and country, just after lunch, we expect a federal judge to issue his ruling on prop 8 the voter approved gay marriage ban. it stems from a lawsuit filed by two same-sex couples, they claim it's unconstitutional because it strips the rights of gay men and lesbi lesbians. equally is really at the heart of today's ruling. >> the history of our country has taught us that separate is never equal and the last word of the pledge of allegiance is all, there are no asterisks. >> now voters passed prop 8 by a narrow margin.

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birthdays around here. >> huge, huge, i can barely afford august, you know what i mean? today we're going to celebrate sunny's birthday. we're going to go back to the theater and watch "the bachelorette." it's been extended, and it's supposed to be hysterical. we'll let you know about that tomorrow. your birthday is coming up soon. >> and so is yours. >> i'm not having any more. >> there is something interesting going on in new york city. it's called entrepreneurialism. >> yes. >> now there is a guy who is top-secret. >> known only as ronnie. >> yes. he makes incredible -- >> that's the back of ronnie's head. >> he makes incredible grilled cheese sandwiches and sells them on the black market, kind of. >> i love them. >> he said it's kind of like a drug deal. peel text him and say, i need the gouda. he shows up on the corner and he hands them the sandwich. they hand him cash. it's $5 to $7. >> depending on the kind of

cheese you use. but ronnie's afraid that the health department is going to bust you. what are you doing that the health department is going to get you? >> this is unlicensed food establishment. >> but otherwise, it's nice and clean, there's no -- >> absolutely. >> we know, we hope your voice is distorted. and we pray we don't show you on camera, because we don't want you to get arrested. but the way ronnie makes the grilled cheese, he doesn't make it the normal way. he does a regular grilled cheese and he does something in secret. he wraps it in foil and puts it in the oven on 500. >> so it gets crispy. that's your secret? >> yes, it is, $5 to $7. >> please don't show his face, you doan want ronnie going to prison. now back up like that, just keep going. good, good. >> wait a minute, come back for the money. wait, wait. okay. back up. >> is this like a crime? >> back away, we got to try

these. >> what kind of cheese did you use on these? >> one is american with bacon and the other is cheddar with jalapeno. >> i think i got the cheddar. >> i can't have the jalapenos. >> can you have jalapenos. >> i can have jalapenos. >> i'm not even supposed to have bread. >> are these jalapenos krasy-hot? >> meet yum hot. >> i haven't had bread since thanksgiving. >> oh, my gosh.dium hot. >> i haven't had bread since thanksgiving. >> oh, my gosh. >> we're breaking the law. >> that's so good. >> ron? delicious! >> so delicious, we wish the best of luck with your business. >> no, we don't, because we don't like people who are breaking the law. i really like ronnie. i want ronnie to do so well, he can open up an honest establishment. >> but what makes it fun is you get it secretly on the corner, that's what makes it exciting.

he -- >> it's probably an all-cash business. >> we wish you good luck, ronnie. >> we really do. don't turn around. >> and don't turn the lights on for him. >> he didn't give it to us, we paid him. >> all right. thanks, ronnie. this brings us to our next topic, which is very important. the obesity rate is up, big-time, thanks to ronnie. apparently they went through all the different states and figured out which states had the most obese people and which states had the least obese. most obese is mississippi. yeah. but this is interesting. because people actually called in, i mean they called people and asked them about their weight and height and stuff. so it's really based on how honest you were, too. >> would you be? >> no. i mean, who is? >> that's right. they say the healthiest places -- >> colorado, doesn't surprise me. >> and d.c. which did surprise me a little bit. let me think about all the parks

that are in d.c. >> and the bike paths and people are very active. or maybe they just lie more. >> what a surprise more, they lie more in washington, fancy that. >> you know -- i'm going to wipe my hands on the -- >> don't, don't! >> i am. i need something. what? >> we should tell what the man-kini is. >> that's fine. here's okay with the man-kini. these are supposed to be derriere-lifting undergarments. you're holding the one for men called a maniki. you put your cheeks in the back. i want jerry -- stop picking on jerry. would you slip this on, honey? >> leave jerry alone. >> don't give that one to jerry. >> he says, put the other one on. >> i like how you say to

jerry -- >> jerry said, you put the other one on. jerry is a kinky guy, we love him. >> you tell me if these tiny little spindly straps can hold up someone's backside. >> yours, not mine. >> anyway, they're supposed to lift. >> and they're $29.95 at maniki fashions.com. thank you, sweetheart. you know who else has a big business going on. i think hers is legal and hopefully she's going to declare her taxes, madonna and her daughter, lourdes. >> a new line of clothing inspired by her daughter, she's 13. all kind of cool fashions. >> we have molly hamillstein. and logan. hi, kids. >> you guys are modeling them for us. >> you guys like madonna? >> yes. >> what's your favorite madonna

song? >> "material girl" of course. >> do you really like her music? >> uh-huh. >> and what do you guys think of lourdes, her daughter? >> a good fashionista. >> what year were you girls born? how old are you guys, ten? >> we were born in 1989. >> '89, really? >> 1990. >> confessions on the dance floor, one of her new cds, it's really good. >> these are clothes that are a throw-back to madonna, only available at macy's, thank you, ladies, you look really cute. >> you know -- >> that was kind of a cool story. >> you know how i don't love technology. >> but in this case, you wish you would have. this woman in atlanta was in her apartment and somebody broke in and started robbing her, okay? they tied her wrist together to the top of the bedboard and started stealing stuff, hit her

with a gun and everything. the guy was about to take her computer and she said, you don't want to take that computer because there's a tracking device, and we'll find you. so he left the computer. there she was, tied up, scared, and trying to figure out how she could reach the computer with her feet. she was trying to type with her toes and that wasn't easy. so she took the power cable in between her toes and started typing to her boyfriend who she met online and he got the cops to come over and get her. and what do you think of that? >> that is such a modern story in so many ways it's disturbing. >> i know, right. >> the boyfriend she met online comes over? >> but it saved her. you should get more techie, in case something happens to you, you could use your toes to go online and get a date. one or the other. >> yes, hoda. anyway, what else do we have going on? >> we got sarah going on. >> we're asking people if they would wear their undergarments

to lift their derriere. elaine wrote, nothing wrong with a booty bra. a booty bra. and gretchen wrote, no, and deprive the world of my flat, saggy bum. and kathy wrote if there was an undergarment that would lift everything up, i would live in it. >> i don't know if that would work. >> we haven't tried it, so we don't know. >> i'm too busy wearing -- i got home so late last night. that i promised america that i would wear this thing a half an hour every week. i got right -- >> you wore it again? is there another picture? >> yeah, we have a picture. you stopped -- >> that's the old one. >> that's not the one i'm waiting for. >> that was the only picture. >> there was some fans you stopped on the plaza, there were two teachers from south carolina, dale and amy that you posed with. and nobody believes that it was actually you because they had been at the wax museum before. it was hanging up in the south carolina school now, you're in an elementary school.

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she's got an oscar and a tony under her belt, why not head to the beach? >> absolutely. that's just ha actress marcia gay hardin has done by starting in usa network's "royal pain" set on toney long island. >> dr. lawson is only one doctor. you can only help one person at a time. we're helping people now. is it better to help a few people now rather than help many in a couple of years when hampton's heritage opens the clinic? >> you mean if it opens the clinic. >> i read your proposal, you can use that money for anything you want. >> i want a community clinic. >> and marcia gay hardin gets what she wants. >> this is a hot ticket, this show, it really took off. >> it's fantastic. it's starting the second season, usa second season and we have so many viewers and i think you

have to hand it to mark freston, he's the mcgyver of doctors, he can do a tracheotomy with a wine corkscrew. he's a super nice guy and the show has such a great feel, great cast, great crew. >> how does your character play? >> is that correctsnarky. i get what i want and i want what i get. she's running the hampton's heritage hospital. she doesn't want to see the power go away to a clinic. so the fight is about her keeping control of the purse strings. >> and ha doesn't oscar-winning, tony-winning actress see in a project that's going to be on cable when she's probably being offered meaty, meaty movie roles, too. >> og, we're not doing it today. >> but surely you're in demand what was it about the story and the way it was written that appealed to you? >> many things. first of all, that it takes

place in new york as well. i'm a mom, i've got three kids, so it's nice to be abe to come home at the end of the day. i love that on cable you can play characters a little more complicated. in this case, she was snarky and not nice, i love that. and now they're going behind the scenes and making her a little bit different, a little bit homeyer. >> in the hamptons they're shooting it on site there. >> not in a bathing suit. maybe one of those bras. but you have to see yourself. you were fondling it for hours after you finished talking about it. >> a lot of sexual frustration going on there, your no idea. >> but anyhow -- >> we saw you in "god of carnage". >> would you ever consider going back to something -- >> we are going to do is it in california. knock wood, we're going to do it in california. >> the original cast. >> the original cast for two months in california.

>> jeff daniels, james gandolfini and hope -- >> for some reason, your cast just rang a bell i think with sh. >> i think there's something about seeing james gandolfini beaten up on a couch by me. >> it's just brilliant. >> and i was reading something about, you and your daughter, a project you guys have going with the eyes, right? >> you can you believe it's back-to-school time? august is back-to-school time. it sort of hits me with a bit of a shock. one of the things i've done for back to school is i've teamed up with bausch & lomb, as back to school campaign. we're encouraging parents to take their kids to the doctor to make sure they have proper eye care. one things that is not widely known is kids who wear glasses at school, they won't wear them, their performance goes down in academics and threat iciathleti

proper eye care. and there's the seeing eye-to-icon test. this is one thing that we try to work on all the time. seeing eye to eye, parents can write a story of their own, they can win $5,000 for a scholarship. and go to the american music awards. >> how do you, how do you do that? where do you go, is there a website? >> it's facebook.com/softlens. >> my daughter is starting on those next week. >> disposables? >> mother's best friend. you don't have to worry about the cleaning, it's fantastic. >> marcia, and you can see her all the time. "royal pain" is tomorrow night and every thursday night at 10:00 p.m., 00nt ceraln o9:00 c. the grown-up's guide to birth control right after this. hey guys, i got some more savings for ya,

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he you think of birth control education, the first thing that probably comes to mind is not middle age. >> but it's women over 40 who have a higher proportion of unintended pregnancies than women in their 30s. so we thought it was time to bring up the grown-up's guide do birth control. married or single. >> all in this month's "ladies home journal." where julie bain is the creative director. >> so whether you're 15 or 50, the best form of birth control is always the condom, is that right? >> well, you need to combine it. but i think especially for women our age, if you're like if

you're divorced and you're dating again? you've got to refamiliarize yourself with the condom. it's your best friend. it's the only form of birth control that protects against stds. >> so even post-menopausal women who know that they're not going to get pregnant need to use them because you're still going to get -- is that the highest number of women actually getting stds these days, in record numbers? >> it's very high numbers. i mean hpv virus is very high. and there -- yes. >> herpes, absolutely. >> when you've been married for sometime and you don't want to get pregnant, some women are on the pill. i mean are there any other forms of protection you need to take? when you look at the numbers, i'm sorry, but if half the people are cheating in this country, it's scary out there. >> and i think women need to be aware of the fact that as they get older, they need to realize that they can get pregnant. in their 40s, they think i'm done having a family, can't get

pregnant. that's not true. you have to take a woman's personal considerations into play when you're thinking about birth control. that will help them dictate which choice they want to make. >> we have a variety of choices. >> what should we talk about first? >> well i want to mention that the pill, talking about the peri menopause, birth control pills can help you through the transition, there are benefits, it can help with hot flashes and help with dryness and things like that. so i know a lot of women who have, who have used the pill to kind of get through penri menopause. >> they ask you immediately when you're on the pill and tell you immediately to get off the pill if you're diagnosed with breast cancer. >> it's very important for a woman to say to her doctor, whether or not she has a personal history of breast cancer. she may opt to do something that's nonhormonal. so it's there's contraindications, a pill can be great for women in their 40s.

>> what about the iud? >> everyone said forget that, never use that again. >> that surprised me. i learned that in many other countries, it's the most popular form of birth control. it hasn't really caught on in this country because there was some bad pr. it's quite effective, it lasts for a long time. the copper one has no hormones. >> there are two on the market. one does contain hormones which is good for five years and the other which can be kept for ten years. they're great, but in the right patient. i am somewhat guarded about recommending it for my younger patients. in the back of my mind, is the concern, will there be potentially infertility down the road, but for a woman who is done with child-bearing and doesn't have issues with irregularity, bad cramping, the iud is great. >> what about the sponge? >> the sponge is back. remember the "sponge-worthy" episode of "seinfeld"? >> absolutely. >> if you're dating and not having sex regularly.

can you go to the drug store, it's disposable, can you leave it in for 30 hours. it's pretty easy. if you use it correctly, it has a pretty good effectiveness. >> it does not protect against stds, and i think that's real important. i think dating needs to be defined, dating in a monogamous relationship. >> get over your squeamishness, buy them, put them in their bedside stand. >> people are much more accepting of using condoms now. >> what about the ring? >> this is a great product and people are becoming more familiar with it the nuvo ring is a hormonal form of birth control. much like the patch or birth control pills and it's great for people who are not terribly compliant and have a tough time remembering to take the pill. this skinny little ring is inserted -- >> we're, we're about to go, we're about to go to commercial without anything, so thank you, ladies. >> this is fascinating. >> thank you. we'll be back after this.

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good morning, everybody. i want to check the morning commute. mike inouye has a look at the bay bridge. >> metering lights just turned off a short time ago, so that's a nice indicator for the volume of traffical the east bay. san mateo bridge also the moving smoothly. you can see the haze but you can also make out the peninsula

side, that's a great view and a nice easy flow off 88 to 101. sunol flows nicely as well. you can see the cloud cover is still there. you need the sunglasses because of the clouds, rob. >> in and out of the sun around sunol but all clouds around san francisco and oakland. off to the east and downtown, starting to see hazy sunshine. sun now in cupertino. look at the clouds on the coast. this is a focus over the next few days, with lots of low clouds in the morning, 70s to 80s inland today. oakland, with continued cool temperatures, even to kick off the weekend. time right now a 10:27. more news after the break.

giants are closing in on first place. in fact, they're now just one game back of the padres, san francisco taking on the rockies just after 12:00 today. they won their fourth game in a row last night playing in colorado against the rockies, buster posey got things going wayne rbi single in the first inning, which was a big inning for the giants. they scored runs in the first and they go on to win final score 10-0. torres, sanchez and burrell all hitting home rubs. now the a's hope to bounce back against the royals today, they'll get start the at 12:30 this afternoorchlt kurt suzuki knocking in the only two runs last night with a double here. the royals go on to win that

one, 3-2. dirty harry going to be back in san francisco toe sew to spechblgt clint eastwood's classic film will play this saturday at washington square park as part of the rolling road show. classics showing in places where they were either shot or set. for instance, rocky will be shown in front of philadelphia's museum of art. dirty harry is going to be shown at washington square. showtimes are slated for 8:00 saturday night. thanks fore joining us today, the "today" show continues coming up next. we're back on this wednesday with more of "today," and it's time to play "who knew." the topic today is famous topics. she's ready to hand out $100 to get the questions right, and to those who don't, they get kathie lee's cd. here with me is poe fesor 6

english and fordham university. >> this is a mother-daughter team from louisiana, texas. try to finish this often-repeated presidential quote "ask not what your country can do for you, but -- >> what you can do for your country. >> you're good. >> yes, indeed. terrific quote. >> that one is from john f. kennedy inaugural address in 1961. it's a funny thing about inaugural addresses. without a take-away line. they slide off into the ether very quickly, out of memory. but this was one of the all-time great take-away lines, right up there with franklin roosevelt's we have nothing to fear but fear itself. >> this lovely couple is from ohio, which famous athlete said the following inspirational quote -- it ain't over until it's over? >> i'll give it to the guy. >> yogi berra.

>> there you go. >> best, best quotes ever. yogi berra had the best quotes ever. >> he was the catcher for the new york yankees, during the 1940s and '50s. a great ball player. a free swinger. not only at plate, but also with the english language, we'll always remember him for that. even though he did say, more recently, he said, i didn't say most of what i said. >> i love it. back across to kathie. >> this lovely couple is celebrating their 25th wedding anniversary, they're from south carolina. the quote, it was the best of times, it was the worst of times. is the opening line for which charles dickens' novel? >> i'll let my husband answer. >> "a tale of two cities." >> he's so smart. >> yes, he is smart. we're batting 1,000. we're doing well. "a tale of two cities." that question is a little bit harder. because the line has become

disconnected from the novel. the 12 words are the first 12 of a sentence that runs 119 words and takes up the entire first paragraph of the "tale of two cities." dickens was paid by the word. >> can you imagine what an editor today would do with that it. >> maybe he might do something like what herman melville did in "moby dick" his first sentence is three words "call m me ishmael." >> time is money is a phrase often repeated. who said it first? >> i'm going to go with benjamin franklin. >> that means you got it right. >> geniuses! they're geniuses at the msnbc digital cafe. >> the benjamin franklin was an inventor as well as a quote meister. he's responsible for the bifocals i'll be wearing in a couple of years. he was a one-man quotation factory. he wrote them, printed them,

sold them, made a lot of money, which led to another one of his quotations, there's nothing certain but death and taxes. >> back across to kathie. >> visiting from california, these lovely ladies, all right which alien creature said do or do not, there is no try. alf, e.t., yoda, or none of the above. >> c, yoda. >> golly day! >> yeah, baby. i got to say, len, this is pretty unprecedented. they're batting 1,000, all right. so yoda, that's a yoda quote. >> with yoda, you can, you can usually tell when it's yoda talking, because backwards run the sentences. but also on the extra-terrestrial quotation hit parade is "e.t. phone home" i'm not sure if mr. spock from "star trek" quotes, but his classic greeting, live long and prosper. and there's also the oldie but goodie from the "twilight zone"

to serve men. which turns out to be the title of a cookbook. >> what don't you know, len? you're very smart. >> back across to kathie. >> which comedian said 80% of success is just showing up? chevy chase, mel brooks, peter sellers or woody allen. >> i could be the only one to get this wrong. >> what do you think? >> i'm going to guess. b. >> yes! >> we just gave away $500 so far. woody allen. >> i take full responsibility for this success. woody allen has been making a movie a year for about 40 years now. so it's easy to forget how he got started. which was as a gag writer and a stand-up comedian. who had a very interesting favorite topic, death. as in the i'm not frightened of death, i just don't want to be

there when it happens. >> let's go back across to kathie. >> a family from massachusetts visiting. which children's author wrote the following line "a little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men"? >> we're going to guess. and we're going to go with -- >> b, dr. seuss. [ buzzer ] >> ooh! you know what? somebody has got to get the cd. >> it's a prize, anyway. >> roald dal is great fun. i loved "charlie and the chocolate factory," his writing comes from a very dark place. unlike dr. seuss, who is mostly sunshine and light. he had an unhappy childhood with cruel and absent adults. a lot of his books have children

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can be one of the most difficult and heart-wrenching experiences of your life. >> marcia sheryl is the author of "divorce victory.com." >> and "ladies health" magazine. >> you ended up homeless and broke and just down and out. >> i did. from opening a business with my ex-husband, i was in the handbag business and we owned it togetherth and from the pages of "vogue" and "elle" and "town and country," being homeless was a shocker to me. >> we lived together in a war zone for two years. "war of the roses," exactly. what victory over divorce, what i'm trying to show is you can be even happier. you can be double that kind of happiness. >> but it is kind of hard to prepare for something like this, michelle? >> it's scary. >> you never see it coming and even if you thought you did, you're thinking i'm doing allky to preserve the situation, to keep it from happening. so when it does happen, you

really have to take care of yourself. because you can easily fall apart. >> it's funny. sometimes it's not the big things that are so painful, it's the little tiny things. >> you mean like getting cleaned out of a certain bank account or something like that. >> when you're dividing things, sometimes people take things just to hurt you. >> because they know you love it. >> like an oil painting i had done of my daughter. >> the hardest part for most divorces is the threat that you're going to lose your chirmd. and you're not, but you think -- i take prozac, you sleep late. you're a workaholic, so am i. >> and you'll be made out to be like an unfit mother. or the alec baldwin case, the parental alienation case, which has been debunked. i was homeless and i'm back doing my own handbag line now. so you can overcome it. but when you're in it it is so terrifying and so scary. and so many women have thought

of suicide. and if they didn't have their children, i don't know if they'd have the will to go on. >> what's the way to get out of the weeds when you've just gone through a divorce and things aren't looking great for you? >> the first thing you should do is work on healing, a lot of people are wary of going to get counseling or therapy. but go see somebody. there's low-costs. and see someone. rely on a really good friend. not the one that's going to throw it in your face, but someone who has been supportive. and work on creating a new i'd city for yourself. you've been tied to someone else for so long, you don't have your goals or vision for your life. you need to recreate those things. there's nothing wrong with doing things on the outside. getting yourself a makeover, making over your space, creating all the things that you ever may have wanted to do, but didn't do. even with your own career. this can be an opportunity to try something you've always wanted to try, but you always felt your role was a different role as a wife. >> you shouldn't blame yourself. i think there's a lot of

self-blame that goes on. you spend a lot of time analyzing what we've done wrong. >> we beat ourselves up so badly. >> we have the man who walks away with the 20-year-old secretary, what do you do? >> and you go to court and the judge says get a job and you haven't worked in 20 years. or get a job and you were a graphic designer 20 years before technology. and it's really about empowering yourself. it's about thinking -- what is the thing that i always wanted to do? you have, look at it as an opportunity. and the second life is the best life. >> oh, my god. >> i like her. >> thanks so much. up next, nigella's kitchen. i wish you had smell-a-vision. it's unbelievable. enjoy yoplait whips two delicious ways.

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we're getting salty with the british diva herself, nigella lawson. >> she's an author of many books, but "nigella fresh" is the latest collection of some of her most popular recipes and she has another one coming out later. >> very busy you are. >> i like being busy, because in a sense i'm being busy doing what i like, which is cooking, eating, writing. it's what i love. >> this is kathie lee's favorite recipes of all time. >> she's adding crab meat to it. i can't wait. >> tell us about it. >> it's a seafood pasta, which i think is so summery. but you know, when it's summer, you don't necessarily want to be spending a lot of time over a stove. so the great thing about this is you're not really cooking. you've got the pasta there. this, i use a pestle and mortar. but you can use a bowl and grater. this is garlic. put some chilies in.

>> give it a little spice. >> but stand well back. it makes a horrible noise, i apologize. it's like a persistent headache. >> get your frustrations out. it's a great thing to do, you know? >> therapy. >> certain people you may have been annoyed with at work. >> they shall remain nameless. >> then we've done that. >> we have. so now we can add the crab meat. >> what kind of crab meat do you like to use? >> in england we can get the brown meat as well. and it's more economical. but -- like maryland blue crab. the crab meat you get in the states is so wonderful. >> what's that you poured in there? >> lemon zest and juice. i think it has to be summery, summery. >> and virgin olive oil. >> you want to do that while you pour or you can do it all? >> no. >> you woman can do it all.

>> you look like you train properly. >> in the kitchen. >> a lot of heavy lifting i do. >> i'm going to require you to do some. because if i put this pasta here. i might ask you, are you strong enough to lift this. >> oh, come on now. >> that is very good. >> what kind of pasta do you use? >> i like linguini. >> some arugula, some watercress. >> i love the big bowl. >> this is fruiti de mari. >> you want to ut p your clams and things in it. >> the second thing -- >> mussels, very good. >> garlic and chili, i've thrown in the mussels and throw in the sherry. and two or three minutes and

they will be cooked. and the sherry or the liquor from the mussels crease the sauce for the pasta. >> this reminds me of my friends in italy. >> we have to try them and get involved here. >> little happy clams. >> i like the yellow of the mussels. >> you can use the mussels with tweezers to get the other mussels out. >> how did you know that? that works. >> it's going to be awesome. >> get involved. >> nigella you're working on another book that's coming out, right? >> i just put it to bed. >> so we'll be waiting for it in the fall? >> i'll be back here. >> she's never going to get out of there. >> everybody is going to be eating it and -- it's all plumped. it's clumped. thanks so much. >> we'll be back with more of "today" on nbc.

hoda and i are going crazy over this. the nigella lawson pasta crab mussel thing. >> it's awesome. >> what's up, sarah? >> we've got a lot of serious commentary today, maybe because of the topics we covered on birth control and divorce because it's a little heavier stuff. we still want the fans to send in their what? pictures to hoda and kathie lee, at klg & hoda.com. >> the typical ones, hoda looks great. >> those are typical? >> there was a prisoner. they get facebook time. >> there's a knew group of housewives, "the real housewives of washington, d.c." >> they're going do drop their dishtowels to visit with us.

>> that's what it says. >> what kids and parents need to know about college. everyone has a story, my friend flo lazy is going to sing "being strong." a mom is coming on with her little baby, who has a heart situation. but it's just shocks the mother, how strong she's become through the situation. we all need something like that in our have an ve an awesome wines-day, we'll see you tomorrow.